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2caafans
September 8th, 2013, 07:28 PM
How is this FBS thing feeling for ODU, Appalachian, UMass and (yes let's include JMU)?? All had embarrassing losses this past weekend.....to MD......Akron......UNC A & T and to Maine. A few more of these outcomes and some AD's and fans may come to their better senses about switching leagues. Not always greener on the other side of the fence after-all!!
Apphole
September 8th, 2013, 07:34 PM
Still feels great.
At least from an App State perspective, growing pains from a new HC, DC and defensive scheme coupled with the youngest team of all time does not a glimpse into the future make. We'll be fine and we will be a hell of a lot better off in every way than if we stayed in the SoCon.
ursus arctos horribilis
September 8th, 2013, 07:38 PM
How is this FBS thing feeling for ODU, Appalachian, UMass and (yes let's include JMU)?? All had embarrassing losses this past weekend.....to MD......Akron......UNC A & T and to Maine. A few more of these outcomes and some AD's and fans may come to their better senses about switching leagues. Not always greener on the other side of the fence after-all!!
What's done is done and none of these teams will be changing their minds so let's drop that line of thinking right now. 1/2 the teams lose every week and more than that do when playing up anyway from FCS. The only two bad losses were App and Umass. Being an FCS fan I don't even think either of those losses were too bad since both Maine and A&T look to be fairly good right now.
ursus arctos horribilis
September 8th, 2013, 07:39 PM
Still feels great.
At least from an App State perspective, growing pains from a new HC, DC and defensive scheme coupled with the youngest team of all time does not a glimpse into the future make. We'll be fine and we will be a hell of a lot better off in every way than if we stayed in the SoCon.
Sure ya will.
danefan
September 8th, 2013, 09:32 PM
Still feels great.
At least from an App State perspective, growing pains from a new HC, DC and defensive scheme coupled with the youngest team of all time does not a glimpse into the future make. We'll be fine and we will be a hell of a lot better off in every way than if we stayed in the SoCon.
How much better than moving to the CAA though?
FCSfan
September 8th, 2013, 09:59 PM
Still feels great.
At least from an App State perspective, growing pains from a new HC, DC and defensive scheme coupled with the youngest team of all time does not a glimpse into the future make. We'll be fine and we will be a hell of a lot better off in every way than if we stayed in the SoCon.
not sure you're qualified to give an entire app state perspective....been on the appfan.com lately??
Apphole
September 8th, 2013, 10:03 PM
been on the appfan.com lately??
No
skinny_uncle
September 8th, 2013, 10:29 PM
One has to wonder why App fans keep hanging around an FCS website. Move on.
ursus arctos horribilis
September 8th, 2013, 10:41 PM
They are playing in the SoCon/FCS this year. This is where those games are discussed. They are where those discussions will be had. In short, they are in the correct place for the subject matter.
Apphole
September 8th, 2013, 10:46 PM
One has to wonder why App fans keep hanging around an FCS website. Move on.
I'm here to support my NCCU Eagles.
cmaxwellgsu
September 9th, 2013, 01:32 AM
How is this FBS thing feeling for ODU, Appalachian, UMass and (yes let's include JMU)?? All had embarrassing losses this past weekend.....to MD......Akron......UNC A & T and to Maine. A few more of these outcomes and some AD's and fans may come to their better senses about switching leagues. Not always greener on the other side of the fence after-all!!
Has no bearing on those. Everyone you mentioned is recruiting at a higher level, but those kids are either redshirting or are very green. As for UMass, their stadium situation is brutal for keeping a fan base and recruiting. There lies the toughest situation you mentioned. App has the exact same problems we had in 2005, but they handled the new hire way better than we did. They stayed within their successful coaching tree whereas we decided to make a splash hire and scrap what worked for years. App is going to be fine in the long run. ODU and JMU have some major positives, so bumps in the road aren't going to be too big.
Squealofthepig
September 9th, 2013, 02:02 AM
They are playing in the SoCon/FCS this year. This is where those games are discussed. They are where those discussions will be had. In short, they are in the correct place for the subject matter.
Also, even with the move, there are a ton of ASU fans who are also big FCS fans. I imagine there's quite a few NDSU fans here who still follow DII a fair amount, too - even if you move out of the neighborhood, it's still fun to watch what all is going on.
pike51
September 9th, 2013, 07:42 AM
How is this FBS thing feeling for ODU, Appalachian, UMass and (yes let's include JMU)?? All had embarrassing losses this past weekend.....to MD......Akron......UNC A & T and to Maine. A few more of these outcomes and some AD's and fans may come to their better senses about switching leagues. Not always greener on the other side of the fence after-all!!
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Sly Fox
September 9th, 2013, 10:07 AM
Yeah, this doesn't change our minds about wanting to go up in the slightest.
Waco Kid
September 9th, 2013, 12:12 PM
How is this FBS thing feeling for ODU, Appalachian, UMass and (yes let's include JMU)?? All had embarrassing losses this past weekend.....to MD......Akron......UNC A & T and to Maine. A few more of these outcomes and some AD's and fans may come to their better senses about switching leagues. Not always greener on the other side of the fence after-all!!
Talk to us in about 3 years when we have finished the transition. Until then, you do you and let us do us.
IBleedYellow
September 9th, 2013, 12:20 PM
Also, even with the move, there are a ton of ASU fans who are also big FCS fans. I imagine there's quite a few NDSU fans here who still follow DII a fair amount, too - even if you move out of the neighborhood, it's still fun to watch what all is going on.
I don't know of any. I feel like collectively the only thing we remember about D2 days is UN_ and championships.
Moto X
2caafans
September 9th, 2013, 01:08 PM
Talk to us in about 3 years when we have finished the transition. Until then, you do you and let us do us.
Three more years of transition and losses and you may not have any fans in the stadium. Check the corollary of fan attendance to wins/losses at non-BCS schools!
marenlee
September 9th, 2013, 01:14 PM
I have nothing against the teams that moved up. I'm sad that they left such a great subdivision but also excited to see what GSU can stir up in the FBS ranks. I may have to attend some Eagle games now that I'm a few hours away.
Bisonator
September 9th, 2013, 01:17 PM
Talk to us in about 3 years when we have finished the transition. Until then, you do you and let us do us.
xlolx
ASUMountaineer
September 9th, 2013, 03:00 PM
How is this FBS thing feeling for ODU, Appalachian, UMass and (yes let's include JMU)?? All had embarrassing losses this past weekend.....to MD......Akron......UNC A & T and to Maine. A few more of these outcomes and some AD's and fans may come to their better senses about switching leagues. Not always greener on the other side of the fence after-all!!
xlolx
ASUMountaineer
September 9th, 2013, 03:01 PM
Three more years of transition and losses and you may not have any fans in the stadium. Check the corollary of fan attendance to wins/losses at non-BCS schools!
xlolx
dudeitsaid
September 9th, 2013, 11:32 PM
Three more years of transition and losses and you may not have any fans in the stadium. Check the corollary of fan attendance to wins/losses at non-BCS schools!
Could be...it depends on if the pull an Idaho...or a Boise State. Personally, I would far rather be relevant in the FCS than be a dismal embarrassment in the FBS. But just because we can see examples of what football fans would call failures doesn't mean that App or GSU will fall into those footsteps, even with their growing pains, whatever they may be. I, like others, hate to see them leave because they brought outstanding quality and heritage to the FCS. But it's too soon to say that their collective fan base should be regretting it.
GoAgs72
September 9th, 2013, 11:39 PM
Winston-Salem dropped from FCS where they were a doormat to D2 where they're in the playoffs every year. Smart decision. I'm sure the fans, alumni and students are not crying about it.
Nugget49er
September 9th, 2013, 11:52 PM
I'm here to support my NCCU Eagles.
You picked a bad week to decide you are an Eagle. xnodx
R.A.
September 10th, 2013, 12:11 AM
Winston-Salem dropped from FCS where they were a doormat to D2 where they're in the playoffs every year. Smart decision. I'm sure the fans, alumni and students are not crying about it.
WSSU went to the Division II Title game last season.
Apphole
September 10th, 2013, 12:13 AM
I've been an eagle for about 4 weeks now.
GSUsTALON
September 10th, 2013, 05:56 AM
One has to wonder why App fans keep hanging around an FCS website. Move on.
This is the best all inclusive FCS site on the web. GaSo has been in 1AA/FCS for thirty years, we were successful at this level and I will always have fond memories.
I plan on keeping up with FCS using this board even when GSU moves to FBS. Very interested in seeing if NDSU can make it a 3 peat this year.
dudeitsaid
September 11th, 2013, 12:01 AM
Since the flavor of this thread is concerning the success of FCS moving up to FBS, does anyone have a compilation of the success teams have made that transition have had? I've searched the internet to find even a list of the teams that have moved up, as most of us would recognize the names of teams of past FCS teams that have had success at the FBS level, like Boise and Nevada. Most of you guys on here are a heck of a lot more knowledgeable about overall FCS history than I am, and are aware of the resources. I don't want anyone to jump through any hoops, just wondering if someone knows where to look. Heck, I know the FCS vs FBS conversation has happened before, and maybe this questions been answered in the past. Anyone know?
Grizzlies82
September 11th, 2013, 12:33 AM
No idea where you'd find the stats. Yet off hand Boise State is the only former FCS to attain consistent success, and even they struggled initially.
Otherwise Nevada & Marshall seem to be the next best with some winning seasons. None of the other teams who moved up have had more than the rare winning season. I suspect Appalachian State & Georgia Southern will eventually make a mark in their new conference. However, for every Marshall/Nevada there are ten Idaho Vandals, and to date only one Boise.
Twentysix
September 11th, 2013, 12:42 AM
No idea where you'd find the stats. Yet off hand Boise State is the only former FCS to attain consistent success, and even they struggled initially.
Otherwise Nevada & Marshall seem to be the next best with some winning seasons. None of the other teams who moved up have had more than the rare winning season. I suspect Appalachian State & Georgia Southern will eventually make a mark in their new conference. However, for every Marshall/Nevada there are ten Idaho Vandals, and to date only one Boise.
Being geographically isolated from other FBS/BCS teams seems to help some. I have to secretly hope that Nebraska and Minnesota being 200+ miles away and being the closest FBS teams would help. We kind of have our own recruiting footprint if we ever go FBS.
dudeitsaid
September 11th, 2013, 12:57 AM
Being geographically isolated from other FBS/BCS teams seems to help some. I have to secretly hope that Nebraska and Minnesota being 200+ miles away and being the closest FBS teams would help. We kind of have our own recruiting footprint if we ever go FBS.
For similar reasons, I cold see both Montana schools doing OK FBS, as well as NDSU, but who knows. Several of the FCS teams that moved up had a good level of success while they were here, and have done very little in the FBS. If they are not SEC, and a few other universities from strong conferences, it seems more likely the teams will fall into FBS oblivion with the best highlights being some bowl nobody will watch or remember. Hopefully the fates of App and GSU will be much better than that. I wish them no ill will at all.
bkrownd
September 11th, 2013, 04:08 AM
No idea where you'd find the stats. Yet off hand Boise State is the only former FCS to attain consistent success, and even they struggled initially.
Otherwise Nevada & Marshall seem to be the next best with some winning seasons. None of the other teams who moved up have had more than the rare winning season. I suspect Appalachian State & Georgia Southern will eventually make a mark in their new conference. However, for every Marshall/Nevada there are ten Idaho Vandals, and to date only one Boise.
Mmmmm.... Troy (State) has done well. I seem to remember hearing something or another about Connecticut. Central Florida has had some good seasons.
...still trying to get to ten Idahos....
mvemjsunpx
September 11th, 2013, 06:34 AM
Mmmmm.... Troy (State) has done well. I seem to remember hearing something or another about Connecticut. Central Florida has had some good seasons.
...still trying to get to ten Idahos....
UCF used I-AA as a stepping stone. They were only in the division for 6 years, not to mention their school is friggin' huge (60,000+ students!).
Using 10 Idahoes was probably not the best comparison, but a school has to do a lot better than Idaho to really be successful in FBS.
kalm
September 11th, 2013, 07:27 AM
UCF used I-AA as a stepping stone. They were only in the division for 6 years, not to mention their school is friggin' huge (60,000+ students!).
Using 10 Idahoes was probably not the best comparison, but a school has to do a lot better than Idaho to really be successful in FBS.
This.
Turning to Troy as an example of move up success is kinda sad. 10 Idahoes might be hyperbole, but Troy, WKU, Marshall, Nevada, UCONN, Louisiana Tech, Louisiana Monroe...more recently Texas State and UMASS, and now GSU (2), ODU, and ASU. Feel free to fill in more.
Some have had tremendous success (Boise), and even Idaho started out with a few bowl appearances and had one not that long ago. But it's awfully tough to garner national attention like Boise, UCONN, and UCF have...or to sustain it.
Not hating, wish the move-ups all the best, understand putting the best foot forward, and will be rooting for them. I just like this subdivision and the playoffs a whole helluva lot better than mediocrity, crappy bowl games, and at best the occasional meteoric sniff at greatness.
andy7171
September 11th, 2013, 09:38 AM
How is ODU losing to UMD embarrassing? Maryland looks pretty good this year. And I hate the Twerps!
JMU2K_DukeDawg
September 11th, 2013, 10:52 AM
JMU was in position to win and just didn't get it done. Racking up almost 500 yards on a FBS team isn't an embarrassment even if it was Akron. The Zips still have more schollies and have a deeper roster than any FCS team. Sure I wanted us to win that game, but I have no doubt if and when (two questions with no clear answers) JMU transitions to FBS, that the team will be stronger and an a better position for recruits. FWIW, we beat the 3-point spread favoring Akron.
JMU has some work to do in the defensive secondary still, but the fact that we dominated the trenches even according to Akron fans, tells us that our team is where we want it to be/expected it to be. This team will improve throughout the season. A few less penalties/turnovers, and that one would have been an easy W for JMU.
Still, a loss to Akron is a loss to Akron no matter how it is sugarcoated.
URMite
September 11th, 2013, 11:26 AM
How is ODU losing to UMD embarrassing? Maryland looks pretty good this year. And I hate the Twerps!
As I asked on another thread, Out of curiosity, how improved is Maryland over the team from last year that beat 2-9 W&M 7-6?
bjtheflamesfan
September 11th, 2013, 12:51 PM
Well for starters they arent on their fifth QB like they were at one point last year
JMUNJ08
September 11th, 2013, 01:07 PM
Being geographically isolated from other FBS/BCS teams seems to help some. I have to secretly hope that Nebraska and Minnesota being 200+ miles away and being the closest FBS teams would help. We kind of have our own recruiting footprint if we ever go FBS.
Doesn't being isolated geographically also lead to reasonably less talent in the region? I would rather have 20 square miles in Florida than all of North Dakota... For FCS, you guys are a gold mine, but I doubt that translates to truly top talent that could compete long term with the FBS heavy weights...
Grizzlies82
September 11th, 2013, 01:09 PM
Mmmmm.... Troy (State) has done well. I seem to remember hearing something or another about Connecticut. Central Florida has had some good seasons.
...still trying to get to ten Idahos....
Yes even Idaho had a couple of successful seasons and a bowl appearance or two. Though keep in mind we're approaching twenty years in (since 1995). Troy State is another good example of the hazards. It was a perennial playoff team in FCS. Since jumping they've had what two or three bowl games and more losing seasons than winning ones. Connecticut might be added to the Marshall/Nevada mix. They've been perhaps 50/50 with success.
Moving up has it benefits. I'm sure W. KY was thrilled to beat Kentucky. Yet they are a former champion who has consistently languished since they jumped up. I don't think this win made them a contender again. When considering the move we all dream of enjoying Boise State's success. Yet the reality is very few teams even attain a winning record. I say jump if you're ready financially and have a good conference to land in. Though do it with your eyes open. The fact is most former FCS teams have barely gotten to the middle of the FBS pack. I'm not saying don't do it. I'm just pointing out the fallacy of "the grass is always greener" theory.
JMUNJ08
September 11th, 2013, 01:12 PM
JMU was in position to win and just didn't get it done. Racking up almost 500 yards on a FBS team isn't an embarrassment even if it was Akron. The Zips still have more schollies and have a deeper roster than any FCS team. Sure I wanted us to win that game, but I have no doubt if and when (two questions with no clear answers) JMU transitions to FBS, that the team will be stronger and an a better position for recruits. FWIW, we beat the 3-point spread favoring Akron.
JMU has some work to do in the defensive secondary still, but the fact that we dominated the trenches even according to Akron fans, tells us that our team is where we want it to be/expected it to be. This team will improve throughout the season. A few less penalties/turnovers, and that one would have been an easy W for JMU.
Still, a loss to Akron is a loss to Akron no matter how it is sugarcoated.
With gaining two additional yards for a first down on what turned out to be the final play, we would have been able to spike the ball and try for a 40+ yard field goal. While not a certainty, that was how close we were to winning that game.
Tough loss and one I felt we could win but their depth showed by having 2 QBs playing at a very similar level. Both seemed to have been through significant knee injuries and when one was finally sidelined, the other stepped in seamlessly. If Birdsong couldn't come back from his big hit? JMU really doesn't have a good alternative. With 20 extra schollies? I think thats different.
Twentysix
September 11th, 2013, 03:21 PM
Doesn't being isolated geographically also lead to reasonably less talent in the region? I would rather have 20 square miles in Florida than all of North Dakota... For FCS, you guys are a gold mine, but I doubt that translates to truly top talent that could compete long term with the FBS heavy weights...
The thing is we don't just have ND, we have ND/SD/Sask/Manitoba/Minnesota/Nebraska/Wisconsin. The bolded have like 3-4 other schools that recruit some of the hs players.
There are not many football teams around here and out of region teams don't recruit here. No one solely has 20 square miles in Florida, everyone everywhere recruits Florida, or just about anyway. Pick 20 square miles in flordia and you can probably come up with 40+ fbs schools that recruit the region.
I really wish we would start to tap Winnipeg.. They play hs football and its a city of 700,000 only 200 miles (which is close by great plains standards) from Fargo with no NCAA affiliation. Some of our other teams tap Canadian players, typically Manitobans.
dbackjon
September 11th, 2013, 03:32 PM
The thing is we don't just have ND, we have ND/SD/Sask/Manitoba/Minnesota/Nebraska/Wisconsin. The bolded have like 3-4 other schools that recruit some of the hs players.
There are not many football teams around here and out of region teams don't recruit here. No one solely has 20 square miles in Florida, everyone everywhere recruits Florida, or just about anyway. Pick 20 square miles in flordia and you can probably come up with 40+ fbs schools that recruit the region.
I really wish we would start to tap Winnipeg.. They play hs football and its a city of 700,000 only 200 miles from Fargo with no NCAA affiliation.
The isolation up north is one of your advantages. Take two kids with equal talent/football skills. One is the only DI prospect at Jamestown, ND HS. The other is one of 10 DI prospects at a High School in Miami. The Jamestown kid is not going to get many visits/offers - not worth it to recruit one kid in the middle of nowhere (relatively). But 60 different DI programs are going to visit the Miami HS
When I went to NAU in the 80's, we played a game against the Univ of Manitoba - first half American rules, second half Canadian rules
Twentysix
September 11th, 2013, 03:39 PM
The isolation up north is one of your advantages. Take two kids with equal talent/football skills. One is the only DI prospect at Jamestown, ND HS. The other is one of 10 DI prospects at a High School in Miami. The Jamestown kid is not going to get many visits/offers - not worth it to recruit one kid in the middle of nowhere (relatively). But 60 different DI programs are going to visit the Miami HS
When I went to NAU in the 80's, we played a game against the Univ of Manitoba - first half American rules, second half Canadian rules
I am not sure on time tables, but I believe NDSU has played the Winnipeg schools with similar rules. It was decades upon decades ago though.
Tribal
September 11th, 2013, 04:53 PM
Those teams were invited by and took the decision to join FBS conferences. I wish them luck (except GA State & ODU :) ). Us FCS'ers need to focus on our programs, conferences and the FCS in general.
bkrownd
September 11th, 2013, 05:10 PM
Turning to Troy as an example of move up success is kinda sad.
Troy (State) is a good program and are usually competetive on the field. That IS success, by any reasonable measure, so there's nothing "sad" about it.
bkrownd
September 11th, 2013, 05:17 PM
The fact is most former FCS teams have barely gotten to the middle of the FBS pack.
"Middle of the FBS pack" is exactly what they're aiming for.
dgtw
September 11th, 2013, 05:41 PM
When I went to NAU in the 80's, we played a game against the Univ of Manitoba - first half American rules, second half Canadian rules
Did they make the field bigger at halftime?
dbackjon
September 11th, 2013, 05:45 PM
Troy (State) is a good program and are usually competetive on the field. That IS success, by any reasonable measure, so there's nothing "sad" about it.
Competitive against who?
Since moving up in 2002, Troy is:
Against BCS conferences: 2-30 (wins in 2004 and 2007), with avg margin of defeat around 20.
Against other non-conference FBS: 10-11, with 4 wins over UAB
Against FCS 6-0
All other wins have been in conference, all which used to be FCS as well, except for UL-L
NDSU has more BCS-level wins in the past few years as an FCS team than Troy has in 12 years of being FBS. So really what is the point of moving up? The ability to get beat up MORE by BCS level teams? Ability to go to Mobile every few years for a bowl game?
If Troy is a good example of a competitive team, then your standards are really, really low.
dbackjon
September 11th, 2013, 05:46 PM
Did they make the field bigger at halftime?
No - that was only thing un-Canadian about the second half
Grizzlies82
September 11th, 2013, 06:00 PM
Competitive against who?
Since moving up in 2002, Troy is:
Against BCS conferences: 2-30 (wins in 2004 and 2007), with avg margin of defeat around 20.
Against other non-conference FBS: 10-11, with 4 wins over UAB
Against FCS 6-0
All other wins have been in conference, all which used to be FCS as well, except for UL-L
NDSU has more BCS-level wins in the past few years as an FCS team than Troy has in 12 years of being FBS. So really what is the point of moving up? The ability to get beat up MORE by BCS level teams? Ability to go to Mobile every few years for a bowl game?
If Troy is a good example of a competitive team, then your standards are really, really low.
I fully agree. Troy's had some success, but they were far more successful prior to their jump.
Also, I can't believe anyone's goal is to "be in the middle of the pack" regardless of the level they play at.
Cocky
September 11th, 2013, 08:26 PM
Troy is only successful in the perception battle. Troy's football team is not very good most years and will get worse. With South AL adding football, GaSo and GSU going FBS and JSU and AL State facility improvements, Troy is losing many recruiting battle. If anyone thinks GaSo is isolated they have never been to Troy.
bkrownd
September 11th, 2013, 08:29 PM
I fully agree. Troy's had some success, but they were far more successful prior to their jump.
Also, I can't believe anyone's goal is to "be in the middle of the pack" regardless of the level they play at.
Troy is in I-A (oh sorry, "FBS") playing competitive football with FBS teams weekly. They stepped up, and have been very respectable in doing so. The idea that they were "far more successful" in I-AA because they played a schedule padded with the likes of Small Fry College and Gumbo State A&M and went to a nearly invisible playoff is just silly. Apples and oranges. You guys crow about being able to beat an FBS also-ran once in a blue moon, and on the other hand dump on programs which do it regularly.
kalm
September 11th, 2013, 08:44 PM
Troy is in I-A (oh sorry, "FBS") playing competitive football with FBS teams weekly. They stepped up, and have been very respectable in doing so. The idea that they were "far more successful" in I-AA because they played a schedule padded with the likes of Small Fry College and Gumbo State A&M and went to a nearly invisible playoff is just silly. Apples and oranges. You guys crow about being able to beat an FBS also-ran once in a blue moon, and on the other hand dump on programs which do it regularly.
Please see Dbacks post regarding how I wouldn't trade Troy and EWU for the world!
bkrownd
September 11th, 2013, 08:50 PM
Please see Dbacks post regarding how I wouldn't trade Troy and EWU for the world!
Nobody asked you to.
kalm
September 11th, 2013, 10:16 PM
Nobody asked you to.
You did. You just haven't come to grips with that yet.
citdog
September 11th, 2013, 10:30 PM
Troy is in I-A (oh sorry, "FBS") playing competitive football with FBS teams weekly. They stepped up, and have been very respectable in doing so. The idea that they were "far more successful" in I-AA because they played a schedule padded with the likes of Small Fry College and Gumbo State A&M and went to a nearly invisible playoff is just silly. Apples and oranges. You guys crow about being able to beat an FBS also-ran once in a blue moon, and on the other hand dump on programs which do it regularly.
Umass, the flagship university for a State full of the VILEST yankee scum in the entire northeast, couldn't have won the PATRIOT LEAGUE since becoming fbs in name only.
dbackjon
September 11th, 2013, 11:05 PM
Troy is in I-A (oh sorry, "FBS") playing competitive football with FBS teams weekly. They stepped up, and have been very respectable in doing so. The idea that they were "far more successful" in I-AA because they played a schedule padded with the likes of Small Fry College and Gumbo State A&M and went to a nearly invisible playoff is just silly. Apples and oranges. You guys crow about being able to beat an FBS also-ran once in a blue moon, and on the other hand dump on programs which do it regularly.
And I PROVED that Troy is not playing competitive football with anyone OTHER than former FCS schools. They haven't stepped up and played with the big boys - they play them, but get slaughtered.
Face reality
Sader87
September 12th, 2013, 12:26 AM
Umass, the flagship university for a State full of the VILEST yankee scum in the entire northeast, couldn't have won the PATRIOT LEAGUE since becoming fbs in name only.
Ladies and gentlemen, please remain in your seats for your halftime entertainment as we give you the stylings of the Citadel's "Dueling Banjos":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yt9R0I3gSk
citdog
September 12th, 2013, 12:39 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, please remain in your seats as we give you the stylings of the Citadel's "Dueling Banjos":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yt9R0I3gSk
Following the RIVETING Banjo performance we will hear comic stylings of the NOT QUITE IVY LEAGUE PLAYERS.
Sader87
September 12th, 2013, 12:47 AM
Following the RIVETING Banjo performance we will hear comic stylings of the NOT QUITE IVY LEAGUE PLAYERS.
Following the comedic performance of the "Not Quite Ivy League Players" the "Not Quite West Point/Annapolis/Colorado Springs Service Academy" will reenact how the Confederate States of America surrended during the American Civil War.
citdog
September 12th, 2013, 01:01 AM
Following the comedic performance of the "Not Quite Ivy League Players" the "Not Quite West Point/Annapolis/Colorado Springs Service Academy" will reenact how the Confederate States of America surrended during the American Civil War.
The "Our Mission Is Completely Different Than Those Fine Schools" Mime Troupe will bring down the house in the Grand Finale and will reveal to ALL........ EXACTLY where Sader87's head spends the majority of its time.
Sader87
September 12th, 2013, 01:07 AM
Hey, we coulda/shoulda/woulda been in the Big East......I blame the Great Santini.
bkrownd
September 12th, 2013, 01:46 AM
And I PROVED that Troy is not playing competitive football with anyone OTHER than former FCS schools. They haven't stepped up and played with the big boys - they play them, but get slaughtered.
"Slaughtered"...you must be thinking about some of Northern Arizona's recent visits to Arizona and Arizona State...
ASUMountaineer
September 12th, 2013, 08:22 AM
Competitive against who?
Since moving up in 2002, Troy is:
Against BCS conferences: 2-30 (wins in 2004 and 2007), with avg margin of defeat around 20.
Against other non-conference FBS: 10-11, with 4 wins over UAB
Against FCS 6-0
All other wins have been in conference, all which used to be FCS as well, except for UL-L
NDSU has more BCS-level wins in the past few years as an FCS team than Troy has in 12 years of being FBS. So really what is the point of moving up? The ability to get beat up MORE by BCS level teams? Ability to go to Mobile every few years for a bowl game?
If Troy is a good example of a competitive team, then your standards are really, really low.
Because we want to. You worry about NAU, and we'll worry about App State. Deal?
ASUMountaineer
September 12th, 2013, 08:26 AM
The "Our Mission Is Completely Different Than Those Fine Schools" Mime Troupe will bring down the house in the Grand Finale and will reveal to ALL........ EXACTLY where Sader87's head spends the majority of its time.
What's that mission? To be faux soldiers?
http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2010/11/19/bush-and-mission-accomplished-0ee0197c9068642f65bd7fcbbc6c2b8fdf75e8ed-s6-c30.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NA9uQSQYiSQ/SSYvDpCYkTI/AAAAAAAABAM/EMU-LyMV3uk/s400/VMI+Cheerleader.JPG
dbackjon
September 12th, 2013, 11:13 AM
Because we want to. You worry about NAU, and we'll worry about App State. Deal?
I will - I wish App all the luck in the world. Just don't hold claim winning the SunBelt while losing all your other games is being competitive in FBS :)
citdog
September 12th, 2013, 11:13 AM
What's that mission? To be faux soldiers?
http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2010/11/19/bush-and-mission-accomplished-0ee0197c9068642f65bd7fcbbc6c2b8fdf75e8ed-s6-c30.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NA9uQSQYiSQ/SSYvDpCYkTI/AAAAAAAABAM/EMU-LyMV3uk/s400/VMI+Cheerleader.JPG
Mr. Bush went to yale.
That young lady, overcome by the sight of a REAL MAN, is attempting to rape him.
dbackjon
September 12th, 2013, 11:14 AM
"Slaughtered"...you must be thinking about some of Northern Arizona's recent visits to Arizona and Arizona State...
Or any of UMass' recent games. At least we aren't playing with the same amount of schollies like UMass is
ASUMountaineer
September 12th, 2013, 11:34 AM
I will - I wish App all the luck in the world. Just don't hold claim winning the SunBelt while losing all your other games is being competitive in FBS :)
There are several ways to define success, and it's in the eye of the fan. For the first decade of FBS, I'd be happy with an over-.500 record. I think that will be a success for the transition. After that, the level to reach to be "successful" will change.
ASUMountaineer
September 12th, 2013, 11:36 AM
Mr. Bush went to yale.
That young lady, overcome by the sight of a REAL MAN, is attempting to rape him.
Let me help you out here, boy. The Bush picture was simply used to represent that Citadel has accomplished its mission ("mission accomplished") of producing faux soldiers.
Clearly, that chick put that Citadel Nancy in a headlock because she viewed him as a delicate flower of a girl that needed to be roughed up a bit.
citdog
September 12th, 2013, 11:53 AM
Let me help you out here, boy. The Bush picture was simply used to represent that Citadel has accomplished its mission ("mission accomplished") of producing faux soldiers.
well mountie you asked for it.
Class
Rank
First
Last
Unit
Date
Battle
War
Reason
1846
Judah
Alexander
1847-06-19
Perote, Mexico
Mexican War
Battlefield Disease
1846
J. H.
Howell
Palmetto Regiment
1847-11-06
Puebla, Mexico
Mexican War
KIA
1846
McBelton
O'Nealle
1847-12
Churubrusco, Mexico
Mexican War
DOW
1846
Col.
Charles C.
Tew
2nd NC
1862-09-17
Sharpsburg
Civil War
KIA
1847
Lt. Col.
Augustus J.
Lythgoe
1st SC
1862-12-31
Stones River, TN
Civil War
KIA
1848
Pearcall
Graham
1847-11-22
Mexico City
Mexican War
KIA
1849
Lt. Col.
Franklin
Gaillard
2nd SC
1864-05-06
Wilderness, VA
Civil War
KIA
1849
Eugene
Wilder
1847-08-20
Churubusco, Mexico
Mexican War
KIA
1850
Cpt.
S. N.
Kennerly
1st SC
1864-08-21
Weldon RR, VA
Civil War
KIA
1851
Cpt.
Thomas B.
Colding
Ga. Volun.
1863-06-13
Winchester, VA
Civil War
KIA
1851
Lt. Col.
F. Gendron
Palmer
Holcombeā€™s Legion
1862-09-14
2nd Manassas, VA
Civil War
KIA
1851
Col.
Edward J.
Walker
3rd Ga.
1864-08-21
Atlanta
Civil War
KIA
1852
Cpt.
W. S.
Brewster
SCM 17th Reg
1862-12-11
Fredericksburg, VA
Civil War
KIA
1852
William
Davant
1855-10-01
Ft. Duncan, Tx.
Indian Wars
KIA
1852
Cpt.
T. W.
Fitzgerald
12th ALA
1864-03-06
Chancellorsville, VA
Civil War
KIA
1852
Capt.
George E.
Gamble
SCM 3rd Reg
1861-09-14
James Is., SC
Civil War
KIA
1852
Cpt.
H. B.
Housel
7th Fla.
1862
Undetermined
Civil War
Undetermined
1852
Allen H.
Little
Palmetto Regument
1854-08
Garita de Belen
Mexican War
WIA
1852
Col.
R. A.
Palmer
2nd Miss.
1861-07-21
1st Manassas, VA (1st graduate KIA)
Civil War
KIA
1852
Lt.
George
Seabrook
1st SC
1861-04-02
Morris Is., SC
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1852
Maj.
D. T.
Williams
2nd SC
1863-07-02
Gettysburg, PA
Civil War
KIA
1854
Col.
D. G.
Fleming
22nd SC
1864-07-30
The Crater, VA
Civil War
MIA
1854
Cpt.
C. T.
Haskell
1st SC
1863-07-10
Morris Is., SC
Civil War
KIA
1854
BG
Micah
Jenkins
Army of No. VA
1864-05-06
Wilderness, VA
Civil War
KIA
1854
Cpt.
J. S.
Palmer
10th SC
1864-07-22
Atlanta, GA
Civil War
KIA
1855
Cpt.
J. M.
Dean
7 ARK.
1862-04-07
Shiloh, TN
Civil War
KIA
1856
Cpt.
J. A.
Evans
1864-06-27
Kinnesaw Mt., TN
Civil War
KIA
1856
Maj.
J. A.
Finch
6th SC
1862-08-30
2nd Manassas, VA
Civil War
KIA
1856
Cpt.
J. H.
Hart
12th SC
1862-09-14
So. Mt., MD
Civil War
KIA
1856
Col.
J. D.
Nance
3rd SC
1864-05-06
Wilderness, VA
Civil War
KIA
1856
Cpt.
George A.
Ross
Ark. Vol.
1861
Undetermined
Civil War
KIA
1857
Col.
C. W.
McCreary
1st SC
1865-05-31
Gravely Run, SC
Civil War
KIA
1857
Col.
William D.
Rutherford
3rd SC
1864-10-13
Strasburg, VA
Civil War
KIA
1859
James E.
Delorme
Undetermined
Undetermined
Civil War
Undetermined
1859
Cpt.
James L.
Litchfield
7th SC
1862-09-13
2nd Manassas, VA
Civil War
KIA
1859
T. O.
McCaslan
1st SC
1862-08-30
2nd Manassas, VA
Civil War
KIA
1859
Lt.
G. M.
McDowell
2nd SC
1863-07-03
Gettysburg, PA
Civil War
KIA
1859
Col.
William H. J.
Mitchell
17th SC
1864-06-18
Petersburg, VA (1st MIA)
Civil War
MIA
1859
Maj.
W. P.
Shooter
1st SC
1864-05-12
Spotsylvania, PA
Civil War
KIA
1859
Col.
O. J.
Youmans
2nd SC
1864-05-06
Wilderness, VA
Civil War
KIA
1860
Lt
William
Alisson
__
1862-05-04
Unknown
Civil War
KIA
1860
Frank
DeCardeuc
1st SC
1863-11-03
Staunton, VA
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1860
Maj.
E. A.
Erwin
1st SC
1863-09-07
Morris Island, SC
Civil War
KIA
1860
Capt.
Francis H.
Harleston
1st SC
1863-11-24
Ft. Sumter, SC
Civil War
KIA
1860
2/Lt.
S. S.
Kirby
Palmetto Light Artillery
1865-02-02
Rivers Bridge, SC
Civil War
KIA
1860
2/Lt.
Joshua
Moses
3rd Palmetto
1865-04-09
Ft. Blakely, Al.
Civil War
KIA
1860
Cpt.
J.
Nettles
10th SC
1863-01-14
Undetermined
Civil War
Died while POW
1861
Lt
Robert S.
Bryce
1863-09-22
Chicamauga, GA
Civil War
KIA
1861
1/Lt.
James H.
Burns
6th NC
1863-07-02
Gettysburg, PA
Civil War
KIA
1861
D. P.
Campbell
11th SC
1862-10-22
Pocataglio, SC
Civil War
KIA
1861
Lt.
J. J.
Coward
5th SC
1862-06-01
Seven Pines, VA
Civil War
KIA
1861
Capt.
Randall
Croft
16th SC SOW CADET
1862-07-26
Aiken, SC
Civil War
Battlefield disease
1861
1/Lt
James
Horlbeck
3rd SC Arty SOW Cadet
died from wounds 13 Jan 1866
Avasboro, NC
Civil War
WIA
1861
1/Lt.
John Dosier
Lee
9th SCV
1862-06-30
Gaines Mill, VA
Civil War
KIA
1861
J. C.
Palmer
24th SC
1863-09-19
Chicamauga, GA
Civil War
KIA
1861
Maj.
John Marshall
Whilden
23rd SC SOW Cadet
1862-08-30
2nd Manassas, VA
Civil War
KIA
1861
Nicholas
Wilson
12th SC
1862-09-17
Sharpsburg, MD
Civil War
KIA
1861
T. H.
Wylie
6th SC
Died of wounds1865-11-17
Seven Pines, VA 1862-06-05
Civil War
WIA
1862
Lt
Thomas B.
Alisson
__
Died of wounds1866-10
In Virginia
Civil War
WIA 1865
1862
Cpt.
G. B.
Dyer
2nd SC
1864-06-01
Cold Harbor, VA
Civil War
KIA
1862
Capt.
G. M.
Lalane
25th SC
1863-07-30
James Island, SC
Civil War
KIA
1862
Cadet Ranger
G. A
McDowell
6th SC
1864-02-09
Johns Island, SC
Civil War
KIA
1862
William
McKewn
5th SC
1863-12-14
Fredericksburg, VA
Civil War
KIA
1862
Lt.
J. T.
Norris
19th SC
1863-01-10
Stones River, TN
Civil War
KIA
1863
2/Lt.
John A.
Craig
21st SC
1864-05-16
Drury's Bluff, VA
Civil War
KIA
1863
J. B.
Dotterer
24th SC
1864-05-24
New Hope Church, GA
Civil War
KIA
1863
Cadet Ranger
John S.
Dutart
6th SC Cavalry
1864-02-09
Johns Island, SC
Civil War
KIA
1863
William
Gregg
21st SC
1863-06-29
Gaines Mill, VA
Civil War
KIA
1863
P.
Hamilton
24th SC
1863-09-19
Chickamauga, GA
Civil War
KIA
1863
Col.
M. B.
Humphrey
6th SC "Cadet Ranger"
1865-04-30
Bentonville, NC
Civil War
KIA
1863
John C.
Neil
Palmetto Sharpshooters
1862-08-30
2nd Manassas, VA
Civil War
KIA
1863
"Cadet Ranger"
W. J.
Nettles
6th SC Cavalry
1864-10-27
Franklin, TN
Civil War
KIA
1863
Maj.
T.A.
Quattlebaum
7th SC SOW Cadet
1864-07-30
The Crater, VA
Civil War
MIA
1863
William Mason
Smith
27th SC
1864-06-01
Cold Harbor, VA
Civil War
KIA
1864
Cadet Ranger
A.W.
Dozier
6th SC
1869-06-02
POW Confinment
Civil War
Died from POW wounds
1864
Cpt.
A. F.
Miller
1st SC
1864-11-30
Petersburg, VA
Civil War
KIA
1864
"Cadet Ranger"
James O.
Sheppard
6th SC
1864-06-12
Trevilian Station, VA
Civil War
KIA
1864
Cadet Ranger
Joseph
Willingham
__
Jan 1865
Fayettville, NC
Civil War
KIA
1865
"Cadet Ranger"
Ross
Davis
6th SC
1864-06-12
Petersburg
Civil War
KIA
1865
George W.
McKenzie
2nd SC
1864-01-04
Mt. Jackson, VA
Civil War
KIA
1865
R. F.
Nichols
add 7th SC
1864-12-10
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1865
W. J. B.
Patterson
Battalion of State Cadets
1864-12-07
Tulifinny Creek, SC (first cadet KIA)
Civil War
KIA
1866
John
Culbreath
7th SC
1865-04-17
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1866
B. T.
Gibbs
16th SC
1864-03-12
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1866
H. S.
Morrison
1863-08-16
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1866
William
Ravenel
1863-08-23
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1867
Brooks
6th SC Cavalry
1864-06-12
Civil War
KIA
1867
Joseph P.
Huger
Manigaults Battalion
1864-04-13
Ft. Sumter, SC
Civil War
KIA
1867
Joseph E.
Sams
8th SC
1865-03-22
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
Albert O.
Brown
26th SC
1865-01-29
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
George O.
Buck
7th SC
1865-01-22
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
William
Goodwin
1873-05-04
Red River area
Indian Wars
KIA
1868
George
Grant
18th SC
1865-03-21
Bentonville, NC
Civil War
MIA
1868
Thomas Albert
Johnson
7th SC
1865-03-23
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
Osma
Knox
1864-11-28
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
Johnnie C.
Mangrum
26th SC
1866
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Wounds
1868
Robert E.
Muldrow
25th SC
1865-04-07
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
Russell
Noble
7th SC
1865-01-12
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
W. McKenzie
Parker
Battalion of State Cadets
1865-05-09
Williamston, SC (last confederate death)
Civil War
KIA
1908
CDRE
James Alexander
Logan
USN
1943-09-04
over Northern Ireland
World War II
KIA
1908
Maj.
Robert Henry
Willis, Jr.
Aircorps
1918-09-13
France
World War I
Friendly fire
1909
1/Lt.
W. A.
Mulloy
1918-12-24
France
World War I
Hostile fire
1912
Lt.
William Montague
Nicholls
British Artillery
1915-08-26
Loos, France
World War I
Hostile fire
1914
1/Lt.
John Hodges
David
18th Inf.
1918-04-01
Ansuuile, France
World War I
Hostile fire
1915
Cpt.
James Hill
Holmes
USA
1918-07-19
Soissons, France
World War I
Hostile fire
1916
2/Lt.
James Karl
Bolton
USMC
1917-01-10
San Pedro de Mancoris, Dominican Republic
U.S. Expeditionary Force/Central America, 1916-1933
KIA
1916
Maj.
William
Byrd
USMC
1928-03-09
Esteli, Nicaragua
U.S. Expeditionary Force/Central America, 1916-1933
KIA
1916
MAJ
Wade Rushton
Cothran, Jr.
USA
1945-01-22
Died on Jap POW ship
World War II
KIA/POW
1916
Cpt.
Julius Andrew
Mood, Jr.
USA
1918-07-21
Soissons, France.
World War I
Hostile fire
1916
1/Lt.
George Hampton
Yarborough, Jr.
USMC
1918-06-27
Belleau Wood, France
World War I
Hostile fire
1917
1/Lt_
Robert James
Cochran
8th Aero Sqdn.
1918-10-10
France
World War I
Shot down/Toul, Fr.
1917
Lt.
Arthur Thomas
Elmore
1918-07-13
Belleau Wood, France
World War I
Hostile fire
1917
1/Lt.
Richard G.
Howard
USMC
1919-08-14
Yuma, Dominican Republic
U.S. Expeditionary Force/Central America, 1916-1933
KIA
1926
CPT
Wilton Earl
Davis
USA
1944-12-25
DNB France
World War II
KIA
1927
CPT
Robert Clark
Hale
USA
1944-08-12
France
World War II
KIA
1928
CPT
Joseph Lynn
McCarthy
USA
1945-01-09
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1929
MAJ
Thomas Dry
Howie
USA
1944-07-17
St Lo, France, CO, 3rd Bn/116th Inf/29th Div
World War II
KIA
1929
LT
Perry Moses
Phelps
USN
1945-03-10
DNB accident, Oran, Algeria
World War II
KIA
1929
Maj
Lu
Shu-Chin
Chinese Army
1938
Kunming, China
World War II
died of injuries
1929
COL
George Roland
Weeks
USMC
1945-01-30
Died on prison ship enroute to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1930
1LT
Forrest Hugh
Coleman, Jr.
USA
1944-11-20
Ardennes, Belgium
World War II
KIA
1931
PVT
William Francis
Boyd
USMC
1945-02-27
Iwo Jima
World War II
KIA/MIA
1931
TSGT
George Bryan
French
USAAC
1943-04-23
over North Africa
World War II
KIA/MIA
1931
MAJ
Albert K.
Godwin
USA
1944-12-15
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1931
1LT
Albert Starke
Hagood
USA
1945-03-23
crossing Rhine River, Germany
World War II
KIA
1931
LDCR
Allard Barnwell
Heyward
USN
1944-06-06
D-Day, Normandy, France
World War II
KIA/MIA
1931
CPT
Joseph Barre
Traywick
USA
1944-11-08
Germany, D-Day veteran
World War II
KIA
1932
1LT
Alexander Beaty
Sherard
USA
1943-07-14
DOW South Pacific
World War II
KIA
1933
1LT
Pope Lott
Browne
USAAC
1944-10-24
Died on Arisan Maru enroute to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1933
1LT
Benjamin Henry
Ivey
USA
1945-01-09
France
World War II
KIA
1933
1LT
Allen Jones
Jervey, Jr.
USA
1942-06-17
DOW Pacific
World War II
KIA
1933
FLT LT
Charles Pritchard
Lesesne
RCAF
1945-03-31
over Luneburg. Germany
World War II
KIA
1933
1LT
Franklin Merle
Shaw
USA
1944-04-20
Nurmea, New Caldonia
World War II
KIA
1934
CPT
Arthur Calvin
Griffin, Jr.
USA
1944-08-07
France
World War II
KIA
1934
PVT
Beverly W.
Mitchell
USA
1942-11-21
DNB SW Pacific
World War II
KIA
1935
2LT
Harry Grimshaw
Bowers
USA
1943-12-21
Italy
World War II
KIA
1935
CPT
George Brown
Gregory, Jr.
USA
1945-05-06
Okinawa
World War II
KIA
1936
1LT
Wade Hampton
Britt, Jr.
USMC
1943-04-13
South Pacific
World War II
KIA
1936
2LT
James Tredway
Dixon
USA
1944-07-27
St Lo, France
World War II
KIA
1936
SGT
Furman Henry
Finklea
USA
1944-08-30
Normandy, France
World War II
KIA
1936
1LT
Ralph Palmer
Ford, Jr.
USA
1944-12-15
Died on Enowra Maru enroute to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1936
ENS
Claude Jackson
Gasque, Jr.
USNR
1943-08-10
Lost aboard USS Quincy (CA-39) at Guadalcanal
World War II
KIA/MIA
1937
2LT
Grady Cannon
Corley
USA
1944-06-05
Myitkyiana, Burma
World War II
KIA
1937
MAJ
James Lee
Land
USA
1943-10-04
Italy
World War II
KIA
1937
Cpt
Maxwell Farmer
Parrott
USA
1944-12-04
Unknown location
World War II
KIA
1937
LTC
Tom Mulloy
Trotti
USMC
1945-02-22
Iwo Jima
World War II
KIA
1938
CPT
Stephen Munger
Byars, Jr.
USA
1944-12-15
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1938
COX
Eugene Rice
Cowan
USN
1944-04-28
Atlantic
World War II
KIA
1938
LCDR
Robert Cleveland
Evins
USN
1944-06-17
over South Pacific
World War II
KIA/MIA
1938
BG
Charles Jack
Girard
USA
1970-01-17
Gia Dinh, RVN
Vietnam
Illness
1938
1LT
Roy Hamilton
Long, Jr.
USAAC
1945-04-29
over Pacific
World War II
KIA
1938
LT
Jack Alger
Mahony, Jr.
USN
1943-07-01
Pacific
World War II
KIA/MIA
1938
LTC
George Bray
McMillan
USAAC
1944-06-24
over Pingsang,China ( Flying Tigers)
World War II
KIA
1938
Capt
Manning Lionel
Nelson, Jr.
USN
1945-04-28
Kerema Islands (off Okinawa)
World War II
KIA
1938
BG
Tang
Tieh Chin
Chinese Army
04/1944
China
World War II
KIA
1939
1LT
Harold Bradford
Chandler, Jr.
USA
1942-12-05
Phillipines
World War II
KIA
1939
CPT
Clough Farrar
Gee, III
USA
1944-06-07
D-Day +1, Normandy, France
World War II
KIA
1939
1LT
Thomas Edward
Goodson, Jr.
USA
1944-06-14
over France
World War II
KIA/MIA
1939
2LT
Ernest Scott
Haile, II
USA
1944-09-07
Died on Shinyo Maru enrouye to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1939
1LT
Richard Brady
Knapp
USA
1944-08-23
France
World War II
KIA
1939
2LT
George Rhea
Land, Jr.
USAAC
1943-04-02
over La Fauconnerie, Tunisia
World War II
KIA
1939
LT
Peter Nicholas
Meros
USNR
1945-06-07
Pacific
World War II
KIA/MIA
1939
1LT
Lindsay Baker
Milikin
USA
1943-09-14
DOW Pacific
World War II
KIA
1939
1LT
Edwin Karl
Newman
USA
1945-02-26
Europe
World War II
KIA
1939
1LT
Ernest Ferdinand
Peschau, Jr.
USAAC
1944-06-08
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1939
2LT
Harry Ferrell
Stallings, Jr.
USAAC
1945-04-16
over Guam
World War II
KIA/MIA
1939
PVT
Henry Major
Taylor
USA
1944-06-06
D-Day, Normandy, France, 82nd AB Div
World War II
KIA
1939
1LT
Frank Leslie
Vernon
USA
1945-05-29
Okinawa
World War II
KIA
1940
1LT
Henry Liles
Allen
USAAC
1944-02-25
over Germany on 1st combat mission
World War II
KIA
1940
1LT
Joseph
Andrews
USAAC
1944-08-15
over France
World War II
KIA
1940
2LT
Alton Houston
Bryant
USAAC
1944-12-15
Died on Oryoku Maru enroute to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
2LT
Joseph Plowden
Cole
USAAC
1942-07-15
over Australia
World War II
KIA/MIA
1940
2LT
Charles Herbert
Cooper
USAAC
1942-08-28
over Alaska
World War II
KIA/MIA
1940
1LT
Peter Franklin
Cureton, Jr.
USAAC
1944-11-21
over France
World War II
KIA
1940
2LT
John Shipp
Daniel
USAAC
1942-10-27
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
1LT
Walter Guy
Efird, Jr.
USA
1944-09-07
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
MAJ
William Haselden
Ellerbe
USA
1945-05-26
over Pacific (Body not recovered)
World War II
KIA/MIA
1940
2LT
William Herbert
Ellis, Jr.
USA
1945-01-09
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1940
1LT
Wilson
Glover, III
USAAC
1945-01-27
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
1LT
Francis Vernon
Lael
USAAC
1944-04-05
over Italy
World War II
KIA/MIA
1940
1LT
John Thomas
Leonard, Jr.
USA
1944-12-13
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
1LT
Landon Dwight
Long
USAAC
1942-06-03
over Lashio, Burma
World War II
KIA/MIA
1940
CPT
Thomas Hutson
Martin, Jr.
USA
1945-02-08
DOW France
World War II
KIA
1940
1LT
John Bernard
Mayes
USAAC
1942-12-18
over Tunis, Tunisia
World War II
KIA
1940
2LT
John Isaac
Moore, III
USA
1944-10-24
Died on Arisan Maru enroute to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
LTC
Julius Elliot
O'Neal
USAF
1951-10-23
MIA over Inchon, South Korea, still MIA
Korean War
KIA/MIA
1940
1LT
Rufus Alexander
Oliphant, Jr.
USAAC
1943-02-15
over Europe
World War II
KIA/MIA
1940
1LT
Walter Scott
Strong, Jr.
USA
1945-02-02
Died on Brazil Maru enroute to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
CPT
James Goodlett
Thornton, Jr.
USA
1944-09-14
Europe
World War II
KIA/MIA
1941
1LT
Herbert B.
Bass
USMC
1943-03-05
Guadalcanel
World War II
KIA
1941
1LT
Herman B.
Brown, Jr.
USA
1943-09-06
New Guinea
World War II
KIA
1941
CPL
William Henderson
Coffield, Jr.
USAAC
1942-07-09
Died at Calauag Tayabas, Phillipines
World War II
KIA/POW
1941
2LT
Richard Furman
Dabbs
USMC
1942-09-15
over Caribbean
World War II
KIA/MIA
1941
ENS
Charles Emil
Eichenberger, Jr.
USN
1942-09-12
over the Solomans, DE-202 named for him
World War II
KIA
1941
1LT
Walter Raymond
Erness
USAAC
1942-09-13
over North Africa
World War II
KIA
1941
ENS
Herman John
Gerdes, Jr.
USN
1944-07-02
Lost aboard sub USS Robaco (SS-273)
World War II
KIA/MIA
1941
SSG
Jack Willis
Holt
USAAC
1943-10-16
over New Guinea
World War II
KIA
1941
1LT
Thomas Lea
Hutchings, Jr.
USA
1944-09-16
Europe with 28th Division
World War II
KIA
1941
1LT
Clark Lewis
Knotts
USA
1944-08-06
France
World War II
KIA
1941
1LT
John Catlett
Martin
USAAC
1943-01-07
over New Guinea
World War II
KIA
1941
1LT
Benjamin Willis
Mills, Jr.
USA
1944-09-07
Paliseul, Belgium
World War II
KIA
1941
LTJG
Harry Hampton
Salley
USN
1944-05-20
DOW Brooklyn Naval Hospital
World War II
KIA
1941
CPT
Jerome Chris
Serros
USAAC
1944-11-02
over Europe
World War II
KIA
1941
SGT
Charles Henry
Sims
USA
1945-07-12
DOW near Manila, Phillipines
World War II
KIA
1941
MAJ
William Kirkland
Stewart
USMC
1945-02-25
Pacific
World War II
KIA/MIA
1941
1LT
William Robert
Werden, Jr.
USAAC
1942-12-15
over Herbert River Australia
World War II
KIA
1941
ENS
Henry Purefoy
Whitehurst, Jr.
USN
1942-08-09
Lost aboard USS Astoria; DE-634 named for him
World War II
KIA/MIA
1941
1LT
Charles Clarence
Young, Jr.
USAAC
1944-03-23
over Oldenburg, Germany
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Burt Williams
Andrews, Jr.
USA
1946-11-03
DOW received in battle - Naples-Foggia, Italy
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Robert Moffatt
Brice
USA
1944-06-06
D-Day, Pointe du Hoc, 2nd Ranger Bn
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Joseph Dexter
Brown, Jr.
USA
1944-06-25
DOW Italy
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
William Gadsden
Daniels
USAAC
1944-10-06
over Germany
World War II
KIA/MIA
1942
CPT
William Jacob
DeWitt
USA
1945-02-18
DOW received in battle - Italy
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Roy Robin
English, Jr.
USAAC
1945-03-22
over Heidelberg, Germany (55th mission)
World War II
KIA
1942
CPT
Thomas Brown
Gautier, Jr.
USA
1944-12-09
DOW Europe
World War II
KIA
1942
CPL
Theodore
Hanford
USA
1944-12-25
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Gilmer Herriott
Holton, Jr.
USAAC
1942-06-07
over Battle of Midway
World War II
KIA/MIA
1942
CPT
Norwood Thomas
Jenkins
USA
1944-02-17
DNB Battlefield Disease - New Guinea
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Franklyn Madden
Ketchum
USA
1944-08-16
France
World War II
KIA
1942
CPT
Ralph Emory
Kibler, Jr.
USAAC
1944-05-11
over France
World War II
KIA
1942
PFC
Gordon Ackly
Littlefield
USMC
1951-03-17
South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1942
1LT
Roland Louis
Luerich, Jr.
USA
1944-06-04
DOW Italy
World War II
KIA
1942
CPT
James Lawrence
Manning
USA
1944-12-21
over Bleialf, Germany
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Harold Burris
Morse
USAAC
1945-02-04
over China
World War II
KIA
1942
CPT
Robert Edward
Poland
USAAC
1943-04-04
over Liberia, North Africa
World War II
KIA/MIA
1942
CPT
Hugh Corbin
Rogers
USAAC
1944-12-21
over China
World War II
KIA/MIA
1942
1LT
William Milling
Royall
USA
1944-11-19
Europe
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Fred Burnham
Shifflet, Jr.
USAAC
1943-03-03
over Battle of the Bismark Sea
World War II
KIA/MIA
1943
2LT
James Theodore
Baugh
USMC
1945-02-24
Iwo Jima
World War II
KIA
1943
LTJG
Frederick William
Beidelman, Jr.
USNR
1944-10-26
Soloman Islands
World War II
KIA/MIA
1943
2LT
Jesse Wooten
Booker, III
USMC
1944-08-27
Tinian
World War II
KIA
1943
2LT
John Russell
Ferris
USMC
1945-02-23
Iwo Jima
World War II
KIA
1943
1LT
Jack Johnston
Foster
USA
1945-01-06
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1943
1LT
John Hobson
Franks
USAAC
1944-12-31
over Japan
World War II
KIA/MIA
1943
1LT
Harry Vance
Johnson, Jr.
USA
1945-04-03
Germany
World War II
KIA
1943
2LT
Robert Edward
Murphy
USAAC
1943-11-02
Rabaul, New Britain
World War II
KIA/MIA
1943
2LT
Bruce Curtis
Robbins
USA
1945-01-03
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1943
2LT
Martin Frederick
Schnibben, Jr.
USA
1945-02-12
DOW while German POW, previously MIA
World War II
KIA/POW
1943
CPT
Molten Ancrum
Shuler, Jr.
USA
1952-08-24
Chorwon, North Korea WIA 6/16/52
Korean War
KIA
1943
CPL
William Cleveland
Whitley, Jr.
USA
1944-11-04
France
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
George Blalock
Browning
USA
1945-01-04
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1944
PFC
Thompson Gallety
Dicks
USA
1944-06-06
D-Day, Omaha Beach, 116 Inf/29 Div
World War II
KIA
1944
2LT
Richard Louis
Engel
USAAC
1944-12-31
over Germany
World War II
KIA
1944
SGT
Owen Willoughby
Fields, Jr.
USA
1944-07-13
Normandy, France, 22nd Inf/4th Div
World War II
KIA
1944
2LT
Creswell
Garlington, Jr.
USA
1944-12-03
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1944
CPL
Woodfin Grady
Gaston, Jr.
USA
1945-01-19
France
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Walter Edward
Gibson
USA
1944-06-11
France
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Ralph Alexander
Hardee
USA
1944-08-09
Brittany, France
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Enon Walter
Harvey, Jr.
USAAC
1945-07-13
over Bonin Islands
World War II
KIA/MIA
1944
1LT
William Alvin
Henson, II
USAAC
1944-09-28
over Magdeburg, Germany
World War II
KIA
1944
2LT
Caswell Marbury
Higgs
USA
1945-03-28
Germany
World War II
KIA
1944
2LT
Arthur Bradlee
Hunt, Jr.
USA
1944-11-21
Europe
World War II
KIA
1944
SGT
John Evans
James, Jr.
USA
1944-12-25
Germany
World War II
KIA
1944
PFC
Harvey Robert
Kolker
USA
1945-01-10
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Richard Lee
Mann
USAAC
1944-04-20
over France
World War II
KIA
1944
CPT
William Kennedy
Mauldin
USAF
1952-02-21
over Sinan-ri, North Korea
Korean War
KIA
1944
1LT
Archibald Solomon
Mills, Jr.
USAAC
1943-09-21
over South Pacific
World War II
KIA
1944
2LT
Edwin Browning
Moore
USA
1945-03-01
Belgium
World War II
KIA
1944
PFC
William John
Nally
USAAC
1945-06-25
Mindoro Island, Phillipines
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Richard Paul
Padgett
USA
1945-04-30
South Pacific
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Paul
Richardson
USAAC
1944-06-27
over Europe
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Herman Franklin
Ridenour
USAAC
1944-04-10
over Yangkai AB, China
World War II
KIA
1944
SGT
Marvin
Roth
USA
1945-04-25
Germany
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Albert Harold
Sims
USAAC
1945-03-28
over Chungking, China
World War II
KIA/MIA
1944
2LT
Samuel Rigby
Sprott, Jr.
USAAC
1944-03-20
over Germany (Body not recovered)
World War II
KIA/MIA
1944
1LT
Charles Marion
Thirlkeld, Jr.
USA
1945-01-03
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Richard Harry
Whitaker
USAAC
1944-06-30
over Lake Balaton, Hungary
World War II
KIA
1945
PFC
Andrew Nourse
Alexander, Jr
USA
1945-08-10
DNB Battlefield Disease - Kunming, China
World War II
KIA
1945
CPL
Joseph
Altomari
USA
1945-05-10
DNB Germany
World War II
KIA
1945
SSG
Hugh Van Der Veer
Batchelder
USA
1945-01-01
Phillipsbourg, France
World War II
KIA
1945
CPL
Robert Alexander
Bates
USA
1944-11-03
Holland
World War II
KIA
1945
PFC
Frederick Scott
Campbell, Jr.
USAAC
1945-05-26
over Tokyo, Japan
World War II
KIA
1945
PFC
Archelaus Augustus
Drake, III
USA
1944-12-05
Ratzweiller, France
World War II
KIA
1945
SSGT
Griffeth Harrison
Fort
USAAC
1944-12-17
over Deutsch-Lieben, Czechoslovakia
World War II
KIA
1945
1LT
Henry David
Fulmer, Jr.
USAAC
1944-12-19
over Europe
World War II
KIA
1945
2LT
James Guy
Gilbert, Jr.
USAAC
1944-12-23
over Germany
World War II
KIA
1945
PVT
Harry Frierson
Hendry, Jr.
USA
1945-01-13
Luxembourg
World War II
KIA
1945
1LT
James Culpeper
Hill, Jr.
USAAC
1945-02-20
over Kawasakia, Japan
World War II
KIA/MIA
1945
SSGT
Lucius Joseph
Jumper
USAAC
1945-01-02
over Pacific
World War II
KIA/MIA
1945
PVT
Vestal
Malone
USA
1946-01-05
DOW suffered during The Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1945
S1C
Joy McDowell
Marriott, Jr.
USN
1945-05-03
Lost aboard Sub USS Lagarto SS-371) off Malay
World War II
KIA/MIA
1945
1LT
Frederick Davenport
Melton
USA
1944-10-03
Holland
World War II
KIA
1945
PVT
James Hollenbeck
Morehouse, Jr.
USA
1945-03-18
Germany
World War II
KIA
1945
PFC
John Wilber
Peterson
USA
1945-03-06
Germany
World War II
KIA
1945
PVT
David Prichard
Pilson
USMC
1945-04-10
Okinawa
World War II
KIA
1945
PFC
Marion
Stuckey
USA
1945-01-04
Europe
World War II
KIA
1945
1LT
John Mason Whiting
Stulz
USAAC
1945-08-01
over China/Burma/India Theater
World War II
KIA/MIA
1945
PFC
Wilson Adelbert
Wendt
USA
1945-04-11
Germany
World War II
KIA
1945
1LT
Jack Brinson
Whitaker
USMC
1944-12-31
South Pacific
World War II
KIA
1946
SSG
Raleigh Blackwell
Batten
USAAC
1945-03-11
over Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
1LT
William Beattie
Bendure
USA
1945-01-27
Sinz, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
Richard
Burns
1944-09-01
over Southern France
World War II
KIA/MIA
1946
2LT
Thomas E.
Campbell, Jr.
USAAC
1945-03-24
over Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
SGT
Frank William
Cantillion
USA
1944-05-02
Italy
World War II
KIA
1946
PVT
Ross L.
Carmichael
USA
1944-02-23
Italy (Body not recovered)
World War II
KIA/MIA
1946
SGT
Gerald Richard
Casey
USMC
1945-02-21
Iwo Jima
World War II
KIA
1946
SGT
Edward Gray
Cherry, Jr.
USA
1945-03-15
Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
CPL
John Henry
Cotter
USMC
1945-02-19
Iwo Jima
World War II
KIA
1946
PVT
Walter Steele
Covington, Jr.
USA
1944-12-09
Vossenack, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
1LT
Joseph Ambrose
Doyle, Jr.
USAAC
1945-04-28
over Italy
World War II
KIA
1946
PFC
Joseph Gibbs
Ferrel
USA
1944-11-17
Aachen, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
SGT
John Lawrence
Glynn, Jr.
USA
1945-01-28
Belgium
World War II
KIA
1946
SGT
Jule
Hancock, Jr.
USAAC
1944-10-14
over Yugoslavia (Body not recovered)
World War II
KIA/MIA
1946
SSGT
James William
Hendon, Jr.
USAAC
1945-03-01
over Belgium
World War II
KIA
1946
PFC
Harry Bell
Launius, Jr.
USA
1945-01-27
Nenning, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
PVT
John Bunyan
McMillan, Jr.
USA
1944-12-30
Nenning, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
1LT
Richard Heilman
Metzger
USAAC
1945-05-12
over Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
PVT
Fielding Jessup
Nelson
USA
1944-06-02
Anzio Beachhead
World War II
KIA
1946
SSG
Kingsley Robert
Pearse
USA
1944-11-14
France
World War II
KIA
1946
2LT
John Eugene
Pound
USAF
1952-02-22
over Tsu Bu, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1946
SGT
James Calvin
Raymond
USAAC
1945-04-02
over Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
PFC
James Davis
Rembert
USA
1945-04-14
Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
1LT
David Albert
Robins
USAAC
1944-07-21
over Salsburg, Austria
World War II
KIA/MIA
1946
SSG
Robert Cowan
Rolph
USA
1945-02-25
Haverhof, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
PVT
Waverly Owen
Skidmore
USA
1944-10-13
Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
SGT
Henry Sylvain
Solomon
USAAC
1945-03-10
over Tokyo, Japan
World War II
KIA/MIA
1946
CPL
William Arthur
Teague, II
USAAC
1945-07-01
over Japan
World War II
KIA
1946
PVT
Charles Alister
Witsell, Jr.
USA
1944-05-26
Italy
World War II
KIA
1946
SSG
Thomas Franklin
Woodhead
USA
1944-12-10
Obergrich, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
PFC
John Kenneth
Zahn, Jr.
USA
1944-09-11
France
World War II
KIA/MIA
1947
2LT
Solomon Lee
Van Meter, III
USMC
1953-07-09
South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1948
PVT
Thomas Edward
Hinton, Jr.
USMC
1945-12-05
North China
World War II
KIA
1948
1LT
Wesley Hartwell
Johnson
USA
1950-07-27
Hadong, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1949
2LT
Frank Elwood
Bloomenshine
USA
1950-08-25
South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1949
1LT
James Futrell
Exley
USA
1951-04-05
North Korea
Korean War
KIA
1949
1LT
William Calvin
Hall
USA
1951-04-25
Uijonbu, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1949
1LT
John William
Hill, Jr.
USMC
1952-09-10
over Pohang, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1949
1LT
Edmund Jones
Lilly, III
USA
1950-09-03
South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1949
2LT
Edward Rutledge
Ravenel, III
USA
1950-09-05
Hill 303, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1950
1LT
Herman Louis
Falk, Jr.
USA
1951-05-31
Died while POW (2/12/51)
Korean War
KIA/POW
1950
1LT
William Henry
McLellan
USA
1951-09-19
North Korea
Korean War
KIA
1950
2LT
William Kendrick
Mordecai
USA
1950-11-15
Wonsan Harbor, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1950
1LT
Clyde P.
Padgett, Jr.
USA
1951-01-03
Seoul, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1950
1LT
Richard Tarlton
Smock
USA
1951-06-06
Chollyon-Dong North Korea DSC
Korean War
KIA
1951
1LT
Bob Pearce
Cannon
USAF
1952-12-04
over Suwon AF, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1951
1LT
James Franklin
Davis
USAF
1953-05-10
over South Korea
Korean War
KIA/MIA
1951
PVT
William Clyde
Fowler
USA
1951-01-30
South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1951
1LT
Myrth Jimmie
Killingsworth
USA
1952-10-14
North Korea
Korean War
KIA
1951
LTC
Rodolph Lee
Nunn, Jr.
USAF
1968-06-06
Quang Tri, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1951
2LT
Thomas Preston
Pearce
USA
1952-08-12
North Korea
Korean War
KIA
1951
MAJ
Sam Michael
Savas, Jr.
USA
1965-10-12
RVN
Vietnam
Stroke
1951
SGT
Desmond K.
Wilkerson
USAF
1950-11-28
over Sinanjo AF, North Korea
Korean War
KIA
1952
MAJ
Amos Oliver
Fox
USAF
1968-04-23
Ninh Thuan, RVN
Vietnam
Air loss
1952
MAJ
Richard Herman
Schmidt
USA
1966-05-17
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1952
LTC
William Robert
Spillers
USAF
1969-12-17
Binh Duong, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1956
CPT
Donald Bryant
Button
USAF
1968-05-24
Thailand
Vietnam
Air loss
1956
LTC
Robert Henry
Carter, Jr.
USA
1969-05-27
Kontum, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1956
MAJ
Leo Michael
Donker
USA
1966-04-03
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1956
MAJ
Roger Lee
Graham
USA
1969-06-10
Quang Nam, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1957
MAJ
James Westley
Ayers
USMC
1967-05-26
Quang Tri, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1957
CPT
Terry Denver
Cordell
USA
1962-10-15
RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1957
CPT
Thomas Joseph
Margle
USAF
1968-02-15
Ninh Thuan, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1958
1LT
Raymond Edgar
Doyle, Jr.
USAF
1963-04-12
Thailand
Vietnam
Air loss
1959
CPT
Clarence Larry
Moorer
USA
1963-12-12
RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1959
CPT
Hugh Reavis
Nelson
USA
1966-06-05
RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1959
CPT
David John Wick
Widder
USA
1965-03-24
RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1959
MAJ
William Esley
Wood, Jr.
USAF
1971-04-21
Quang Tri, RVN
Vietnam
Air loss
1960
CPT
John Werner
Carlson
USAF
1966-12-07
Tay Ninh, RVN
Vietnam
MIA/Shot down
1961
LCDR
Jere Alen
Barton
USN
1970-06-07
Kien Tuong, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1961
MAJ
Samuel Richard
Bird
USA
1984-10-18
Bong Son, RVN
Vietnam
WIA Jan 27, '67
1961
MAJ
James Terry
Jackson
USAF
1972-03-23
Laos
Vietnam
MIA/Shot down
1961
CPT
Benjamin Edward
Kelly, Jr.
USA
1967-08-30
Bihn Dinh, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1961
CPT
Thomas Curtis
Metsker
USA
1965-11-14
Ia Drang Valley, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1961
CPT
William David Howsa
Ragin
USA
1964-08-20
Kien Hoa,RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1961
MAJ
David Bruce
Tucker
USA
1967-10-01
RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1962
CPT
William Forman
Abernethy
USA
1967-07-21
Long Khanh, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1962
CPT
Henry Albert
Deutsch
USA
1965-05-11
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1962
CPT
Thomas Simcock
Hubbell
USMC
1967-12-27
Thua Thien, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1962
CPT
Kurt Lloyd
Kuhns, Sr.
USA
1967-09-08
RVN
Vietnam
Air loss
1962
CPT
Richard Edward
Legate
USA
1967-03-25
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1962
CPT
William Daniel
Sands, III
USA
1967-03-22
Pleiku, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1962
Capt
William A.
Thomas
USAF
1972-04-21
RVN
Vietnam
Air Loss
1963
CPT
Sam Festis
Beach, Jr.
USAF
1968-01-17
Quang Tri, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1963
2/Lt.
Davis J.
Boardman
USA
1968-02-01
Ground Long An, RVN
Vietnam
KIA
1963
MAJ
Robert Gerald
Hunter
USAF
1966-05-25
over Ban-Ban,Laos
Vietnam
Shot down
1963
1LT
Richard Mershon
Milikin, III
USAF
1967-08-20
North Vietnam
Vietnam
MIA/Shot down
1963
2LT
Phillip Jacob
Moog
USA
1966-08-10
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1963
Unk
Viruch
Tangnoi
RTA
1968-06-25
Unknown
Vietnam
Royal Thai Army?
1964
CPT
Charles Edward
Heine
USA
1969-01-03
RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1964
CPT
Anthony George
Prior
USA
1968-05-27
Binh Long, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1964
2LT
Richard James
Regan
USMC
1965-08-11
Quang Nam, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1964
1LT
James Clinton
Tarkenton, III
USA
1967-03-19
Binh Duong, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1964
1LT
William Judson
Thomason
USA
2006-01-15
0
Vietnam
WIA Nov '66
1964
1LT
Hugh William
Wellons
USA
1966-10-13
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1965
2LT
Joseph Cyril
Missar, Jr.
USMC
1966-05-06
Quang Nam, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1965
1LT
Frank Monroe
Murphy
USA
1966-12-07
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1965
MAJ
Woodrow Wilson
Parker, II
USAF
1968-04-24
North Vietnam
Vietnam
Shot down
1965
1LT
Arthur Clifton
Retzlaff
USA
1967-07-10
Kontum RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1966
1LT
Stephen Winfield
Davis
USA
1967-08-18
Quang Tin, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1966
CPT
Thomas Walter
Foy
USA
1968-05-15
Binh Dinh, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1966
2LT
John Luther
Fuller, Jr.
USMC
1967-03-23
Quang Nam, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1966
CPT
Fred Orr
Jackson, Jr.
USA
1969-09-05
Binh Long, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1966
1LT
Mark Mac Donald
Serrem
USA
1968-01-31
Pleiku, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1967
1LT
Fred Joshua
Carter
USAF
1969-11-05
Khanh Hoa, RVN
Vietnam
Air loss
1967
CPT
Glenn Richard
Cook
USAF
1969-10-21
Ninh Thuan, RVN
Vietnam
MIA/Shot down
1967
2LT
Frederick Young
Holjes
USA
1968-03-22
Thua Thien, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1967
HM2
William Livingston
Mc Cormick
USN
1969-03-07
Quang Nam, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1967
CPT
George Louis
Miner
USA
1969-08-17
Thua Thien, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1967
SGT
Thomas Duckett
O'Connor
USMC
1968-01-03
Quang Nam, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1967
1LT
Richard William
O'Keefe
USAF
1971-02-11
Ninh Thuan, RVN
Vietnam
Air loss
1967
CPT
George Thomas
Taylor, Jr.
USA
1971-05-21
Quang Tri, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1967
1LT
Bruce Richard
Welge
USA
1969-01-26
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1968
CPT
Barry Kenneth
Allmond
USAF
1972-05-11
Binh Long, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1968
CPT
Ronald Anthony
Ashe
USAF
1972-07-30
U-Tapao RTAFB, Thailand
Vietnam
Air loss
1968
1LT
John Fredrick
Bradman
USA
1970-02-18
Phuoc Long, RVN
Vietnam
Accident
1968
1LT
Carl Alfred
Peterson
USA
1969-08-10
Thua Thien, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1968
1LT
Kenneth Martin
Schlie
USA
1970-10-20
Quang Ngai, RVN
Vietnam
Air loss
1968
1LT
Charles E.
Suprenant, Jr.
USAF
1970-04-02
Dak Seang, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1968
CPT
Robert Francis
Woodhouse, Jr.
USA
1970-07-07
Thua Thien, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1969
1LT
Christopher L.
Clearwaters
USA
1971-02-20
Phuoc Long, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1969
CPT
Joe Wofford
Eubanks
USA
1972-06-02
Pleiku, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1969
CPT
Carter Avery
Howell
USAF
1972-03-07
Saravane, Laos
Vietnam
MIA/Shot down
1969
WO1
Ephriam Rutledge
Liles, II
USA
1969-07-04
Phuoc Long, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1969
1LT
Richard Glenn
Repole
USA
1970-07-08
Quang Ngai, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1969
SSG
Robert Francis
Scherdin
USA
1968-12-29
Cambodia
Vietnam
MIA/Ground
1977
CPT
Michael F.
Ritz
USA
1983-10-26
Calliste, Grenada, 82nd Airborne
Grenada
KIA
1981
1LT
Charles Jeffrey
Schnorf
USMC
1983-10-23
USMC Barracks, Beirut, Lebanon
Lebanon
KIA
1984
CPT
Mario J.
Fajardo
USA
1991-02-26
Desert Storm, 27th ENG Bn (combat) (airborne) 20th ENG BDE
Persian Gulf War
KIA
1985
LTC
Chad
Buehring
USA
2003-10-26
Baghdad, Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
1985
MSG
Robert V.
Derenda
USA
2005-08-05
Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
1987
Officer
Arsenio
Domingo Jr.
CPD
2006-01-07
Over Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
1989
CPT
Patrick
McKenna
USA
1994-04-14
Over northern Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
1993
CPT
Christopher
Kenny
USA
2004-05-03
Baghdad, Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
1996
CPT
Benjamin
Sammis
USMC
2003-04-05
Over central Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
1997
CPT
Daniel W.
Eggers
USA
2004-05-29
Afghanistan
War on Terrorism
KIA
1997
MAJ
Brian Michael
Mescall
USA
2009-01-09
Jaldak, Afghanistan
War on Terrorism
KIA
1998
LTJG
Peter
Ober
USN
2003-07-16
In air crash returning from combat
War on Terrorism
KIA
2001
1LT
Shane
Childers
USMC
2003-03-21
Ramallah Oil Fields, Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
2001
1LT
Dan Thomas
Malcom
USMC
2004-11-10
Fallujah, Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
2004
1LT
Almar
Fitzgerald
USMC
2006-02-21
Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
2004
Capt
Warren A.
Frank
USMC
2008-11-25
Biaj, Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
2004
Capt
Ryan
Hall
USAF
2012-02-18
Killed during combat op in Afghanistan
War on Terrorism
KIA
2004
1/Lt
Ryan
Rawl
SC Army National Guard
20 June 2012
Khost, Afghanistan
War on Terrorism
KIA
2005
1LT
Joshua
Booth
USMC
2006-10-17
Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
2005
LCPL
Timothy
Creager
USMC
2004-07-01
Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
2007
SGT
Aaron X.
Wittman
USA
2013-01-10
Nangarhar Province, Afghanistan
War on Terrorism
KIA
2009
LCPL
Jonathan A.
Taylor
USMC
2009-12-01
Helmand province of Afghanistan
War on Terrorism
KIA
ASUMountaineer
September 12th, 2013, 12:01 PM
Oy vey, Cit. You always have to ruin good smack talk. What's wrong with you?
**** bless those soldiers!*
ASUMountaineer
September 12th, 2013, 12:02 PM
Oy vey, Cit. You always have to ruin good smack talk. What's wrong with you?
**** bless those soldiers!*
BTW, still not sure why G o d is a bad word.
APaladindad
September 13th, 2013, 03:52 AM
well mountie you asked for it.
Class
Rank
First
Last
Unit
Date
Battle
War
Reason
1846
Judah
Alexander
1847-06-19
Perote, Mexico
Mexican War
Battlefield Disease
1846
J. H.
Howell
Palmetto Regiment
1847-11-06
Puebla, Mexico
Mexican War
KIA
1846
McBelton
O'Nealle
1847-12
Churubrusco, Mexico
Mexican War
DOW
1846
Col.
Charles C.
Tew
2nd NC
1862-09-17
Sharpsburg
Civil War
KIA
1847
Lt. Col.
Augustus J.
Lythgoe
1st SC
1862-12-31
Stones River, TN
Civil War
KIA
1848
Pearcall
Graham
1847-11-22
Mexico City
Mexican War
KIA
1849
Lt. Col.
Franklin
Gaillard
2nd SC
1864-05-06
Wilderness, VA
Civil War
KIA
1849
Eugene
Wilder
1847-08-20
Churubusco, Mexico
Mexican War
KIA
1850
Cpt.
S. N.
Kennerly
1st SC
1864-08-21
Weldon RR, VA
Civil War
KIA
1851
Cpt.
Thomas B.
Colding
Ga. Volun.
1863-06-13
Winchester, VA
Civil War
KIA
1851
Lt. Col.
F. Gendron
Palmer
Holcombeās Legion
1862-09-14
2nd Manassas, VA
Civil War
KIA
1851
Col.
Edward J.
Walker
3rd Ga.
1864-08-21
Atlanta
Civil War
KIA
1852
Cpt.
W. S.
Brewster
SCM 17th Reg
1862-12-11
Fredericksburg, VA
Civil War
KIA
1852
William
Davant
1855-10-01
Ft. Duncan, Tx.
Indian Wars
KIA
1852
Cpt.
T. W.
Fitzgerald
12th ALA
1864-03-06
Chancellorsville, VA
Civil War
KIA
1852
Capt.
George E.
Gamble
SCM 3rd Reg
1861-09-14
James Is., SC
Civil War
KIA
1852
Cpt.
H. B.
Housel
7th Fla.
1862
Undetermined
Civil War
Undetermined
1852
Allen H.
Little
Palmetto Regument
1854-08
Garita de Belen
Mexican War
WIA
1852
Col.
R. A.
Palmer
2nd Miss.
1861-07-21
1st Manassas, VA (1st graduate KIA)
Civil War
KIA
1852
Lt.
George
Seabrook
1st SC
1861-04-02
Morris Is., SC
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1852
Maj.
D. T.
Williams
2nd SC
1863-07-02
Gettysburg, PA
Civil War
KIA
1854
Col.
D. G.
Fleming
22nd SC
1864-07-30
The Crater, VA
Civil War
MIA
1854
Cpt.
C. T.
Haskell
1st SC
1863-07-10
Morris Is., SC
Civil War
KIA
1854
BG
Micah
Jenkins
Army of No. VA
1864-05-06
Wilderness, VA
Civil War
KIA
1854
Cpt.
J. S.
Palmer
10th SC
1864-07-22
Atlanta, GA
Civil War
KIA
1855
Cpt.
J. M.
Dean
7 ARK.
1862-04-07
Shiloh, TN
Civil War
KIA
1856
Cpt.
J. A.
Evans
1864-06-27
Kinnesaw Mt., TN
Civil War
KIA
1856
Maj.
J. A.
Finch
6th SC
1862-08-30
2nd Manassas, VA
Civil War
KIA
1856
Cpt.
J. H.
Hart
12th SC
1862-09-14
So. Mt., MD
Civil War
KIA
1856
Col.
J. D.
Nance
3rd SC
1864-05-06
Wilderness, VA
Civil War
KIA
1856
Cpt.
George A.
Ross
Ark. Vol.
1861
Undetermined
Civil War
KIA
1857
Col.
C. W.
McCreary
1st SC
1865-05-31
Gravely Run, SC
Civil War
KIA
1857
Col.
William D.
Rutherford
3rd SC
1864-10-13
Strasburg, VA
Civil War
KIA
1859
James E.
Delorme
Undetermined
Undetermined
Civil War
Undetermined
1859
Cpt.
James L.
Litchfield
7th SC
1862-09-13
2nd Manassas, VA
Civil War
KIA
1859
T. O.
McCaslan
1st SC
1862-08-30
2nd Manassas, VA
Civil War
KIA
1859
Lt.
G. M.
McDowell
2nd SC
1863-07-03
Gettysburg, PA
Civil War
KIA
1859
Col.
William H. J.
Mitchell
17th SC
1864-06-18
Petersburg, VA (1st MIA)
Civil War
MIA
1859
Maj.
W. P.
Shooter
1st SC
1864-05-12
Spotsylvania, PA
Civil War
KIA
1859
Col.
O. J.
Youmans
2nd SC
1864-05-06
Wilderness, VA
Civil War
KIA
1860
Lt
William
Alisson
__
1862-05-04
Unknown
Civil War
KIA
1860
Frank
DeCardeuc
1st SC
1863-11-03
Staunton, VA
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1860
Maj.
E. A.
Erwin
1st SC
1863-09-07
Morris Island, SC
Civil War
KIA
1860
Capt.
Francis H.
Harleston
1st SC
1863-11-24
Ft. Sumter, SC
Civil War
KIA
1860
2/Lt.
S. S.
Kirby
Palmetto Light Artillery
1865-02-02
Rivers Bridge, SC
Civil War
KIA
1860
2/Lt.
Joshua
Moses
3rd Palmetto
1865-04-09
Ft. Blakely, Al.
Civil War
KIA
1860
Cpt.
J.
Nettles
10th SC
1863-01-14
Undetermined
Civil War
Died while POW
1861
Lt
Robert S.
Bryce
1863-09-22
Chicamauga, GA
Civil War
KIA
1861
1/Lt.
James H.
Burns
6th NC
1863-07-02
Gettysburg, PA
Civil War
KIA
1861
D. P.
Campbell
11th SC
1862-10-22
Pocataglio, SC
Civil War
KIA
1861
Lt.
J. J.
Coward
5th SC
1862-06-01
Seven Pines, VA
Civil War
KIA
1861
Capt.
Randall
Croft
16th SC SOW CADET
1862-07-26
Aiken, SC
Civil War
Battlefield disease
1861
1/Lt
James
Horlbeck
3rd SC Arty SOW Cadet
died from wounds 13 Jan 1866
Avasboro, NC
Civil War
WIA
1861
1/Lt.
John Dosier
Lee
9th SCV
1862-06-30
Gaines Mill, VA
Civil War
KIA
1861
J. C.
Palmer
24th SC
1863-09-19
Chicamauga, GA
Civil War
KIA
1861
Maj.
John Marshall
Whilden
23rd SC SOW Cadet
1862-08-30
2nd Manassas, VA
Civil War
KIA
1861
Nicholas
Wilson
12th SC
1862-09-17
Sharpsburg, MD
Civil War
KIA
1861
T. H.
Wylie
6th SC
Died of wounds1865-11-17
Seven Pines, VA 1862-06-05
Civil War
WIA
1862
Lt
Thomas B.
Alisson
__
Died of wounds1866-10
In Virginia
Civil War
WIA 1865
1862
Cpt.
G. B.
Dyer
2nd SC
1864-06-01
Cold Harbor, VA
Civil War
KIA
1862
Capt.
G. M.
Lalane
25th SC
1863-07-30
James Island, SC
Civil War
KIA
1862
Cadet Ranger
G. A
McDowell
6th SC
1864-02-09
Johns Island, SC
Civil War
KIA
1862
William
McKewn
5th SC
1863-12-14
Fredericksburg, VA
Civil War
KIA
1862
Lt.
J. T.
Norris
19th SC
1863-01-10
Stones River, TN
Civil War
KIA
1863
2/Lt.
John A.
Craig
21st SC
1864-05-16
Drury's Bluff, VA
Civil War
KIA
1863
J. B.
Dotterer
24th SC
1864-05-24
New Hope Church, GA
Civil War
KIA
1863
Cadet Ranger
John S.
Dutart
6th SC Cavalry
1864-02-09
Johns Island, SC
Civil War
KIA
1863
William
Gregg
21st SC
1863-06-29
Gaines Mill, VA
Civil War
KIA
1863
P.
Hamilton
24th SC
1863-09-19
Chickamauga, GA
Civil War
KIA
1863
Col.
M. B.
Humphrey
6th SC "Cadet Ranger"
1865-04-30
Bentonville, NC
Civil War
KIA
1863
John C.
Neil
Palmetto Sharpshooters
1862-08-30
2nd Manassas, VA
Civil War
KIA
1863
"Cadet Ranger"
W. J.
Nettles
6th SC Cavalry
1864-10-27
Franklin, TN
Civil War
KIA
1863
Maj.
T.A.
Quattlebaum
7th SC SOW Cadet
1864-07-30
The Crater, VA
Civil War
MIA
1863
William Mason
Smith
27th SC
1864-06-01
Cold Harbor, VA
Civil War
KIA
1864
Cadet Ranger
A.W.
Dozier
6th SC
1869-06-02
POW Confinment
Civil War
Died from POW wounds
1864
Cpt.
A. F.
Miller
1st SC
1864-11-30
Petersburg, VA
Civil War
KIA
1864
"Cadet Ranger"
James O.
Sheppard
6th SC
1864-06-12
Trevilian Station, VA
Civil War
KIA
1864
Cadet Ranger
Joseph
Willingham
__
Jan 1865
Fayettville, NC
Civil War
KIA
1865
"Cadet Ranger"
Ross
Davis
6th SC
1864-06-12
Petersburg
Civil War
KIA
1865
George W.
McKenzie
2nd SC
1864-01-04
Mt. Jackson, VA
Civil War
KIA
1865
R. F.
Nichols
add 7th SC
1864-12-10
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1865
W. J. B.
Patterson
Battalion of State Cadets
1864-12-07
Tulifinny Creek, SC (first cadet KIA)
Civil War
KIA
1866
John
Culbreath
7th SC
1865-04-17
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1866
B. T.
Gibbs
16th SC
1864-03-12
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1866
H. S.
Morrison
1863-08-16
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1866
William
Ravenel
1863-08-23
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1867
Brooks
6th SC Cavalry
1864-06-12
Civil War
KIA
1867
Joseph P.
Huger
Manigaults Battalion
1864-04-13
Ft. Sumter, SC
Civil War
KIA
1867
Joseph E.
Sams
8th SC
1865-03-22
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
Albert O.
Brown
26th SC
1865-01-29
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
George O.
Buck
7th SC
1865-01-22
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
William
Goodwin
1873-05-04
Red River area
Indian Wars
KIA
1868
George
Grant
18th SC
1865-03-21
Bentonville, NC
Civil War
MIA
1868
Thomas Albert
Johnson
7th SC
1865-03-23
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
Osma
Knox
1864-11-28
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
Johnnie C.
Mangrum
26th SC
1866
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Wounds
1868
Robert E.
Muldrow
25th SC
1865-04-07
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
Russell
Noble
7th SC
1865-01-12
Undetermined
Civil War
Battlefield Disease
1868
W. McKenzie
Parker
Battalion of State Cadets
1865-05-09
Williamston, SC (last confederate death)
Civil War
KIA
1908
CDRE
James Alexander
Logan
USN
1943-09-04
over Northern Ireland
World War II
KIA
1908
Maj.
Robert Henry
Willis, Jr.
Aircorps
1918-09-13
France
World War I
Friendly fire
1909
1/Lt.
W. A.
Mulloy
1918-12-24
France
World War I
Hostile fire
1912
Lt.
William Montague
Nicholls
British Artillery
1915-08-26
Loos, France
World War I
Hostile fire
1914
1/Lt.
John Hodges
David
18th Inf.
1918-04-01
Ansuuile, France
World War I
Hostile fire
1915
Cpt.
James Hill
Holmes
USA
1918-07-19
Soissons, France
World War I
Hostile fire
1916
2/Lt.
James Karl
Bolton
USMC
1917-01-10
San Pedro de Mancoris, Dominican Republic
U.S. Expeditionary Force/Central America, 1916-1933
KIA
1916
Maj.
William
Byrd
USMC
1928-03-09
Esteli, Nicaragua
U.S. Expeditionary Force/Central America, 1916-1933
KIA
1916
MAJ
Wade Rushton
Cothran, Jr.
USA
1945-01-22
Died on Jap POW ship
World War II
KIA/POW
1916
Cpt.
Julius Andrew
Mood, Jr.
USA
1918-07-21
Soissons, France.
World War I
Hostile fire
1916
1/Lt.
George Hampton
Yarborough, Jr.
USMC
1918-06-27
Belleau Wood, France
World War I
Hostile fire
1917
1/Lt_
Robert James
Cochran
8th Aero Sqdn.
1918-10-10
France
World War I
Shot down/Toul, Fr.
1917
Lt.
Arthur Thomas
Elmore
1918-07-13
Belleau Wood, France
World War I
Hostile fire
1917
1/Lt.
Richard G.
Howard
USMC
1919-08-14
Yuma, Dominican Republic
U.S. Expeditionary Force/Central America, 1916-1933
KIA
1926
CPT
Wilton Earl
Davis
USA
1944-12-25
DNB France
World War II
KIA
1927
CPT
Robert Clark
Hale
USA
1944-08-12
France
World War II
KIA
1928
CPT
Joseph Lynn
McCarthy
USA
1945-01-09
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1929
MAJ
Thomas Dry
Howie
USA
1944-07-17
St Lo, France, CO, 3rd Bn/116th Inf/29th Div
World War II
KIA
1929
LT
Perry Moses
Phelps
USN
1945-03-10
DNB accident, Oran, Algeria
World War II
KIA
1929
Maj
Lu
Shu-Chin
Chinese Army
1938
Kunming, China
World War II
died of injuries
1929
COL
George Roland
Weeks
USMC
1945-01-30
Died on prison ship enroute to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1930
1LT
Forrest Hugh
Coleman, Jr.
USA
1944-11-20
Ardennes, Belgium
World War II
KIA
1931
PVT
William Francis
Boyd
USMC
1945-02-27
Iwo Jima
World War II
KIA/MIA
1931
TSGT
George Bryan
French
USAAC
1943-04-23
over North Africa
World War II
KIA/MIA
1931
MAJ
Albert K.
Godwin
USA
1944-12-15
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1931
1LT
Albert Starke
Hagood
USA
1945-03-23
crossing Rhine River, Germany
World War II
KIA
1931
LDCR
Allard Barnwell
Heyward
USN
1944-06-06
D-Day, Normandy, France
World War II
KIA/MIA
1931
CPT
Joseph Barre
Traywick
USA
1944-11-08
Germany, D-Day veteran
World War II
KIA
1932
1LT
Alexander Beaty
Sherard
USA
1943-07-14
DOW South Pacific
World War II
KIA
1933
1LT
Pope Lott
Browne
USAAC
1944-10-24
Died on Arisan Maru enroute to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1933
1LT
Benjamin Henry
Ivey
USA
1945-01-09
France
World War II
KIA
1933
1LT
Allen Jones
Jervey, Jr.
USA
1942-06-17
DOW Pacific
World War II
KIA
1933
FLT LT
Charles Pritchard
Lesesne
RCAF
1945-03-31
over Luneburg. Germany
World War II
KIA
1933
1LT
Franklin Merle
Shaw
USA
1944-04-20
Nurmea, New Caldonia
World War II
KIA
1934
CPT
Arthur Calvin
Griffin, Jr.
USA
1944-08-07
France
World War II
KIA
1934
PVT
Beverly W.
Mitchell
USA
1942-11-21
DNB SW Pacific
World War II
KIA
1935
2LT
Harry Grimshaw
Bowers
USA
1943-12-21
Italy
World War II
KIA
1935
CPT
George Brown
Gregory, Jr.
USA
1945-05-06
Okinawa
World War II
KIA
1936
1LT
Wade Hampton
Britt, Jr.
USMC
1943-04-13
South Pacific
World War II
KIA
1936
2LT
James Tredway
Dixon
USA
1944-07-27
St Lo, France
World War II
KIA
1936
SGT
Furman Henry
Finklea
USA
1944-08-30
Normandy, France
World War II
KIA
1936
1LT
Ralph Palmer
Ford, Jr.
USA
1944-12-15
Died on Enowra Maru enroute to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1936
ENS
Claude Jackson
Gasque, Jr.
USNR
1943-08-10
Lost aboard USS Quincy (CA-39) at Guadalcanal
World War II
KIA/MIA
1937
2LT
Grady Cannon
Corley
USA
1944-06-05
Myitkyiana, Burma
World War II
KIA
1937
MAJ
James Lee
Land
USA
1943-10-04
Italy
World War II
KIA
1937
Cpt
Maxwell Farmer
Parrott
USA
1944-12-04
Unknown location
World War II
KIA
1937
LTC
Tom Mulloy
Trotti
USMC
1945-02-22
Iwo Jima
World War II
KIA
1938
CPT
Stephen Munger
Byars, Jr.
USA
1944-12-15
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1938
COX
Eugene Rice
Cowan
USN
1944-04-28
Atlantic
World War II
KIA
1938
LCDR
Robert Cleveland
Evins
USN
1944-06-17
over South Pacific
World War II
KIA/MIA
1938
BG
Charles Jack
Girard
USA
1970-01-17
Gia Dinh, RVN
Vietnam
Illness
1938
1LT
Roy Hamilton
Long, Jr.
USAAC
1945-04-29
over Pacific
World War II
KIA
1938
LT
Jack Alger
Mahony, Jr.
USN
1943-07-01
Pacific
World War II
KIA/MIA
1938
LTC
George Bray
McMillan
USAAC
1944-06-24
over Pingsang,China ( Flying Tigers)
World War II
KIA
1938
Capt
Manning Lionel
Nelson, Jr.
USN
1945-04-28
Kerema Islands (off Okinawa)
World War II
KIA
1938
BG
Tang
Tieh Chin
Chinese Army
04/1944
China
World War II
KIA
1939
1LT
Harold Bradford
Chandler, Jr.
USA
1942-12-05
Phillipines
World War II
KIA
1939
CPT
Clough Farrar
Gee, III
USA
1944-06-07
D-Day +1, Normandy, France
World War II
KIA
1939
1LT
Thomas Edward
Goodson, Jr.
USA
1944-06-14
over France
World War II
KIA/MIA
1939
2LT
Ernest Scott
Haile, II
USA
1944-09-07
Died on Shinyo Maru enrouye to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1939
1LT
Richard Brady
Knapp
USA
1944-08-23
France
World War II
KIA
1939
2LT
George Rhea
Land, Jr.
USAAC
1943-04-02
over La Fauconnerie, Tunisia
World War II
KIA
1939
LT
Peter Nicholas
Meros
USNR
1945-06-07
Pacific
World War II
KIA/MIA
1939
1LT
Lindsay Baker
Milikin
USA
1943-09-14
DOW Pacific
World War II
KIA
1939
1LT
Edwin Karl
Newman
USA
1945-02-26
Europe
World War II
KIA
1939
1LT
Ernest Ferdinand
Peschau, Jr.
USAAC
1944-06-08
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1939
2LT
Harry Ferrell
Stallings, Jr.
USAAC
1945-04-16
over Guam
World War II
KIA/MIA
1939
PVT
Henry Major
Taylor
USA
1944-06-06
D-Day, Normandy, France, 82nd AB Div
World War II
KIA
1939
1LT
Frank Leslie
Vernon
USA
1945-05-29
Okinawa
World War II
KIA
1940
1LT
Henry Liles
Allen
USAAC
1944-02-25
over Germany on 1st combat mission
World War II
KIA
1940
1LT
Joseph
Andrews
USAAC
1944-08-15
over France
World War II
KIA
1940
2LT
Alton Houston
Bryant
USAAC
1944-12-15
Died on Oryoku Maru enroute to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
2LT
Joseph Plowden
Cole
USAAC
1942-07-15
over Australia
World War II
KIA/MIA
1940
2LT
Charles Herbert
Cooper
USAAC
1942-08-28
over Alaska
World War II
KIA/MIA
1940
1LT
Peter Franklin
Cureton, Jr.
USAAC
1944-11-21
over France
World War II
KIA
1940
2LT
John Shipp
Daniel
USAAC
1942-10-27
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
1LT
Walter Guy
Efird, Jr.
USA
1944-09-07
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
MAJ
William Haselden
Ellerbe
USA
1945-05-26
over Pacific (Body not recovered)
World War II
KIA/MIA
1940
2LT
William Herbert
Ellis, Jr.
USA
1945-01-09
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1940
1LT
Wilson
Glover, III
USAAC
1945-01-27
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
1LT
Francis Vernon
Lael
USAAC
1944-04-05
over Italy
World War II
KIA/MIA
1940
1LT
John Thomas
Leonard, Jr.
USA
1944-12-13
Died in Philippine Islands
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
1LT
Landon Dwight
Long
USAAC
1942-06-03
over Lashio, Burma
World War II
KIA/MIA
1940
CPT
Thomas Hutson
Martin, Jr.
USA
1945-02-08
DOW France
World War II
KIA
1940
1LT
John Bernard
Mayes
USAAC
1942-12-18
over Tunis, Tunisia
World War II
KIA
1940
2LT
John Isaac
Moore, III
USA
1944-10-24
Died on Arisan Maru enroute to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
LTC
Julius Elliot
O'Neal
USAF
1951-10-23
MIA over Inchon, South Korea, still MIA
Korean War
KIA/MIA
1940
1LT
Rufus Alexander
Oliphant, Jr.
USAAC
1943-02-15
over Europe
World War II
KIA/MIA
1940
1LT
Walter Scott
Strong, Jr.
USA
1945-02-02
Died on Brazil Maru enroute to Japan
World War II
KIA/POW
1940
CPT
James Goodlett
Thornton, Jr.
USA
1944-09-14
Europe
World War II
KIA/MIA
1941
1LT
Herbert B.
Bass
USMC
1943-03-05
Guadalcanel
World War II
KIA
1941
1LT
Herman B.
Brown, Jr.
USA
1943-09-06
New Guinea
World War II
KIA
1941
CPL
William Henderson
Coffield, Jr.
USAAC
1942-07-09
Died at Calauag Tayabas, Phillipines
World War II
KIA/POW
1941
2LT
Richard Furman
Dabbs
USMC
1942-09-15
over Caribbean
World War II
KIA/MIA
1941
ENS
Charles Emil
Eichenberger, Jr.
USN
1942-09-12
over the Solomans, DE-202 named for him
World War II
KIA
1941
1LT
Walter Raymond
Erness
USAAC
1942-09-13
over North Africa
World War II
KIA
1941
ENS
Herman John
Gerdes, Jr.
USN
1944-07-02
Lost aboard sub USS Robaco (SS-273)
World War II
KIA/MIA
1941
SSG
Jack Willis
Holt
USAAC
1943-10-16
over New Guinea
World War II
KIA
1941
1LT
Thomas Lea
Hutchings, Jr.
USA
1944-09-16
Europe with 28th Division
World War II
KIA
1941
1LT
Clark Lewis
Knotts
USA
1944-08-06
France
World War II
KIA
1941
1LT
John Catlett
Martin
USAAC
1943-01-07
over New Guinea
World War II
KIA
1941
1LT
Benjamin Willis
Mills, Jr.
USA
1944-09-07
Paliseul, Belgium
World War II
KIA
1941
LTJG
Harry Hampton
Salley
USN
1944-05-20
DOW Brooklyn Naval Hospital
World War II
KIA
1941
CPT
Jerome Chris
Serros
USAAC
1944-11-02
over Europe
World War II
KIA
1941
SGT
Charles Henry
Sims
USA
1945-07-12
DOW near Manila, Phillipines
World War II
KIA
1941
MAJ
William Kirkland
Stewart
USMC
1945-02-25
Pacific
World War II
KIA/MIA
1941
1LT
William Robert
Werden, Jr.
USAAC
1942-12-15
over Herbert River Australia
World War II
KIA
1941
ENS
Henry Purefoy
Whitehurst, Jr.
USN
1942-08-09
Lost aboard USS Astoria; DE-634 named for him
World War II
KIA/MIA
1941
1LT
Charles Clarence
Young, Jr.
USAAC
1944-03-23
over Oldenburg, Germany
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Burt Williams
Andrews, Jr.
USA
1946-11-03
DOW received in battle - Naples-Foggia, Italy
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Robert Moffatt
Brice
USA
1944-06-06
D-Day, Pointe du Hoc, 2nd Ranger Bn
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Joseph Dexter
Brown, Jr.
USA
1944-06-25
DOW Italy
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
William Gadsden
Daniels
USAAC
1944-10-06
over Germany
World War II
KIA/MIA
1942
CPT
William Jacob
DeWitt
USA
1945-02-18
DOW received in battle - Italy
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Roy Robin
English, Jr.
USAAC
1945-03-22
over Heidelberg, Germany (55th mission)
World War II
KIA
1942
CPT
Thomas Brown
Gautier, Jr.
USA
1944-12-09
DOW Europe
World War II
KIA
1942
CPL
Theodore
Hanford
USA
1944-12-25
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Gilmer Herriott
Holton, Jr.
USAAC
1942-06-07
over Battle of Midway
World War II
KIA/MIA
1942
CPT
Norwood Thomas
Jenkins
USA
1944-02-17
DNB Battlefield Disease - New Guinea
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Franklyn Madden
Ketchum
USA
1944-08-16
France
World War II
KIA
1942
CPT
Ralph Emory
Kibler, Jr.
USAAC
1944-05-11
over France
World War II
KIA
1942
PFC
Gordon Ackly
Littlefield
USMC
1951-03-17
South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1942
1LT
Roland Louis
Luerich, Jr.
USA
1944-06-04
DOW Italy
World War II
KIA
1942
CPT
James Lawrence
Manning
USA
1944-12-21
over Bleialf, Germany
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Harold Burris
Morse
USAAC
1945-02-04
over China
World War II
KIA
1942
CPT
Robert Edward
Poland
USAAC
1943-04-04
over Liberia, North Africa
World War II
KIA/MIA
1942
CPT
Hugh Corbin
Rogers
USAAC
1944-12-21
over China
World War II
KIA/MIA
1942
1LT
William Milling
Royall
USA
1944-11-19
Europe
World War II
KIA
1942
1LT
Fred Burnham
Shifflet, Jr.
USAAC
1943-03-03
over Battle of the Bismark Sea
World War II
KIA/MIA
1943
2LT
James Theodore
Baugh
USMC
1945-02-24
Iwo Jima
World War II
KIA
1943
LTJG
Frederick William
Beidelman, Jr.
USNR
1944-10-26
Soloman Islands
World War II
KIA/MIA
1943
2LT
Jesse Wooten
Booker, III
USMC
1944-08-27
Tinian
World War II
KIA
1943
2LT
John Russell
Ferris
USMC
1945-02-23
Iwo Jima
World War II
KIA
1943
1LT
Jack Johnston
Foster
USA
1945-01-06
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1943
1LT
John Hobson
Franks
USAAC
1944-12-31
over Japan
World War II
KIA/MIA
1943
1LT
Harry Vance
Johnson, Jr.
USA
1945-04-03
Germany
World War II
KIA
1943
2LT
Robert Edward
Murphy
USAAC
1943-11-02
Rabaul, New Britain
World War II
KIA/MIA
1943
2LT
Bruce Curtis
Robbins
USA
1945-01-03
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1943
2LT
Martin Frederick
Schnibben, Jr.
USA
1945-02-12
DOW while German POW, previously MIA
World War II
KIA/POW
1943
CPT
Molten Ancrum
Shuler, Jr.
USA
1952-08-24
Chorwon, North Korea WIA 6/16/52
Korean War
KIA
1943
CPL
William Cleveland
Whitley, Jr.
USA
1944-11-04
France
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
George Blalock
Browning
USA
1945-01-04
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1944
PFC
Thompson Gallety
Dicks
USA
1944-06-06
D-Day, Omaha Beach, 116 Inf/29 Div
World War II
KIA
1944
2LT
Richard Louis
Engel
USAAC
1944-12-31
over Germany
World War II
KIA
1944
SGT
Owen Willoughby
Fields, Jr.
USA
1944-07-13
Normandy, France, 22nd Inf/4th Div
World War II
KIA
1944
2LT
Creswell
Garlington, Jr.
USA
1944-12-03
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1944
CPL
Woodfin Grady
Gaston, Jr.
USA
1945-01-19
France
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Walter Edward
Gibson
USA
1944-06-11
France
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Ralph Alexander
Hardee
USA
1944-08-09
Brittany, France
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Enon Walter
Harvey, Jr.
USAAC
1945-07-13
over Bonin Islands
World War II
KIA/MIA
1944
1LT
William Alvin
Henson, II
USAAC
1944-09-28
over Magdeburg, Germany
World War II
KIA
1944
2LT
Caswell Marbury
Higgs
USA
1945-03-28
Germany
World War II
KIA
1944
2LT
Arthur Bradlee
Hunt, Jr.
USA
1944-11-21
Europe
World War II
KIA
1944
SGT
John Evans
James, Jr.
USA
1944-12-25
Germany
World War II
KIA
1944
PFC
Harvey Robert
Kolker
USA
1945-01-10
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Richard Lee
Mann
USAAC
1944-04-20
over France
World War II
KIA
1944
CPT
William Kennedy
Mauldin
USAF
1952-02-21
over Sinan-ri, North Korea
Korean War
KIA
1944
1LT
Archibald Solomon
Mills, Jr.
USAAC
1943-09-21
over South Pacific
World War II
KIA
1944
2LT
Edwin Browning
Moore
USA
1945-03-01
Belgium
World War II
KIA
1944
PFC
William John
Nally
USAAC
1945-06-25
Mindoro Island, Phillipines
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Richard Paul
Padgett
USA
1945-04-30
South Pacific
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Paul
Richardson
USAAC
1944-06-27
over Europe
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Herman Franklin
Ridenour
USAAC
1944-04-10
over Yangkai AB, China
World War II
KIA
1944
SGT
Marvin
Roth
USA
1945-04-25
Germany
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Albert Harold
Sims
USAAC
1945-03-28
over Chungking, China
World War II
KIA/MIA
1944
2LT
Samuel Rigby
Sprott, Jr.
USAAC
1944-03-20
over Germany (Body not recovered)
World War II
KIA/MIA
1944
1LT
Charles Marion
Thirlkeld, Jr.
USA
1945-01-03
Ardennes, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1944
1LT
Richard Harry
Whitaker
USAAC
1944-06-30
over Lake Balaton, Hungary
World War II
KIA
1945
PFC
Andrew Nourse
Alexander, Jr
USA
1945-08-10
DNB Battlefield Disease - Kunming, China
World War II
KIA
1945
CPL
Joseph
Altomari
USA
1945-05-10
DNB Germany
World War II
KIA
1945
SSG
Hugh Van Der Veer
Batchelder
USA
1945-01-01
Phillipsbourg, France
World War II
KIA
1945
CPL
Robert Alexander
Bates
USA
1944-11-03
Holland
World War II
KIA
1945
PFC
Frederick Scott
Campbell, Jr.
USAAC
1945-05-26
over Tokyo, Japan
World War II
KIA
1945
PFC
Archelaus Augustus
Drake, III
USA
1944-12-05
Ratzweiller, France
World War II
KIA
1945
SSGT
Griffeth Harrison
Fort
USAAC
1944-12-17
over Deutsch-Lieben, Czechoslovakia
World War II
KIA
1945
1LT
Henry David
Fulmer, Jr.
USAAC
1944-12-19
over Europe
World War II
KIA
1945
2LT
James Guy
Gilbert, Jr.
USAAC
1944-12-23
over Germany
World War II
KIA
1945
PVT
Harry Frierson
Hendry, Jr.
USA
1945-01-13
Luxembourg
World War II
KIA
1945
1LT
James Culpeper
Hill, Jr.
USAAC
1945-02-20
over Kawasakia, Japan
World War II
KIA/MIA
1945
SSGT
Lucius Joseph
Jumper
USAAC
1945-01-02
over Pacific
World War II
KIA/MIA
1945
PVT
Vestal
Malone
USA
1946-01-05
DOW suffered during The Battle of the Bulge
World War II
KIA
1945
S1C
Joy McDowell
Marriott, Jr.
USN
1945-05-03
Lost aboard Sub USS Lagarto SS-371) off Malay
World War II
KIA/MIA
1945
1LT
Frederick Davenport
Melton
USA
1944-10-03
Holland
World War II
KIA
1945
PVT
James Hollenbeck
Morehouse, Jr.
USA
1945-03-18
Germany
World War II
KIA
1945
PFC
John Wilber
Peterson
USA
1945-03-06
Germany
World War II
KIA
1945
PVT
David Prichard
Pilson
USMC
1945-04-10
Okinawa
World War II
KIA
1945
PFC
Marion
Stuckey
USA
1945-01-04
Europe
World War II
KIA
1945
1LT
John Mason Whiting
Stulz
USAAC
1945-08-01
over China/Burma/India Theater
World War II
KIA/MIA
1945
PFC
Wilson Adelbert
Wendt
USA
1945-04-11
Germany
World War II
KIA
1945
1LT
Jack Brinson
Whitaker
USMC
1944-12-31
South Pacific
World War II
KIA
1946
SSG
Raleigh Blackwell
Batten
USAAC
1945-03-11
over Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
1LT
William Beattie
Bendure
USA
1945-01-27
Sinz, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
Richard
Burns
1944-09-01
over Southern France
World War II
KIA/MIA
1946
2LT
Thomas E.
Campbell, Jr.
USAAC
1945-03-24
over Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
SGT
Frank William
Cantillion
USA
1944-05-02
Italy
World War II
KIA
1946
PVT
Ross L.
Carmichael
USA
1944-02-23
Italy (Body not recovered)
World War II
KIA/MIA
1946
SGT
Gerald Richard
Casey
USMC
1945-02-21
Iwo Jima
World War II
KIA
1946
SGT
Edward Gray
Cherry, Jr.
USA
1945-03-15
Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
CPL
John Henry
Cotter
USMC
1945-02-19
Iwo Jima
World War II
KIA
1946
PVT
Walter Steele
Covington, Jr.
USA
1944-12-09
Vossenack, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
1LT
Joseph Ambrose
Doyle, Jr.
USAAC
1945-04-28
over Italy
World War II
KIA
1946
PFC
Joseph Gibbs
Ferrel
USA
1944-11-17
Aachen, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
SGT
John Lawrence
Glynn, Jr.
USA
1945-01-28
Belgium
World War II
KIA
1946
SGT
Jule
Hancock, Jr.
USAAC
1944-10-14
over Yugoslavia (Body not recovered)
World War II
KIA/MIA
1946
SSGT
James William
Hendon, Jr.
USAAC
1945-03-01
over Belgium
World War II
KIA
1946
PFC
Harry Bell
Launius, Jr.
USA
1945-01-27
Nenning, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
PVT
John Bunyan
McMillan, Jr.
USA
1944-12-30
Nenning, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
1LT
Richard Heilman
Metzger
USAAC
1945-05-12
over Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
PVT
Fielding Jessup
Nelson
USA
1944-06-02
Anzio Beachhead
World War II
KIA
1946
SSG
Kingsley Robert
Pearse
USA
1944-11-14
France
World War II
KIA
1946
2LT
John Eugene
Pound
USAF
1952-02-22
over Tsu Bu, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1946
SGT
James Calvin
Raymond
USAAC
1945-04-02
over Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
PFC
James Davis
Rembert
USA
1945-04-14
Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
1LT
David Albert
Robins
USAAC
1944-07-21
over Salsburg, Austria
World War II
KIA/MIA
1946
SSG
Robert Cowan
Rolph
USA
1945-02-25
Haverhof, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
PVT
Waverly Owen
Skidmore
USA
1944-10-13
Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
SGT
Henry Sylvain
Solomon
USAAC
1945-03-10
over Tokyo, Japan
World War II
KIA/MIA
1946
CPL
William Arthur
Teague, II
USAAC
1945-07-01
over Japan
World War II
KIA
1946
PVT
Charles Alister
Witsell, Jr.
USA
1944-05-26
Italy
World War II
KIA
1946
SSG
Thomas Franklin
Woodhead
USA
1944-12-10
Obergrich, Germany
World War II
KIA
1946
PFC
John Kenneth
Zahn, Jr.
USA
1944-09-11
France
World War II
KIA/MIA
1947
2LT
Solomon Lee
Van Meter, III
USMC
1953-07-09
South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1948
PVT
Thomas Edward
Hinton, Jr.
USMC
1945-12-05
North China
World War II
KIA
1948
1LT
Wesley Hartwell
Johnson
USA
1950-07-27
Hadong, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1949
2LT
Frank Elwood
Bloomenshine
USA
1950-08-25
South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1949
1LT
James Futrell
Exley
USA
1951-04-05
North Korea
Korean War
KIA
1949
1LT
William Calvin
Hall
USA
1951-04-25
Uijonbu, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1949
1LT
John William
Hill, Jr.
USMC
1952-09-10
over Pohang, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1949
1LT
Edmund Jones
Lilly, III
USA
1950-09-03
South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1949
2LT
Edward Rutledge
Ravenel, III
USA
1950-09-05
Hill 303, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1950
1LT
Herman Louis
Falk, Jr.
USA
1951-05-31
Died while POW (2/12/51)
Korean War
KIA/POW
1950
1LT
William Henry
McLellan
USA
1951-09-19
North Korea
Korean War
KIA
1950
2LT
William Kendrick
Mordecai
USA
1950-11-15
Wonsan Harbor, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1950
1LT
Clyde P.
Padgett, Jr.
USA
1951-01-03
Seoul, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1950
1LT
Richard Tarlton
Smock
USA
1951-06-06
Chollyon-Dong North Korea DSC
Korean War
KIA
1951
1LT
Bob Pearce
Cannon
USAF
1952-12-04
over Suwon AF, South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1951
1LT
James Franklin
Davis
USAF
1953-05-10
over South Korea
Korean War
KIA/MIA
1951
PVT
William Clyde
Fowler
USA
1951-01-30
South Korea
Korean War
KIA
1951
1LT
Myrth Jimmie
Killingsworth
USA
1952-10-14
North Korea
Korean War
KIA
1951
LTC
Rodolph Lee
Nunn, Jr.
USAF
1968-06-06
Quang Tri, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1951
2LT
Thomas Preston
Pearce
USA
1952-08-12
North Korea
Korean War
KIA
1951
MAJ
Sam Michael
Savas, Jr.
USA
1965-10-12
RVN
Vietnam
Stroke
1951
SGT
Desmond K.
Wilkerson
USAF
1950-11-28
over Sinanjo AF, North Korea
Korean War
KIA
1952
MAJ
Amos Oliver
Fox
USAF
1968-04-23
Ninh Thuan, RVN
Vietnam
Air loss
1952
MAJ
Richard Herman
Schmidt
USA
1966-05-17
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1952
LTC
William Robert
Spillers
USAF
1969-12-17
Binh Duong, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1956
CPT
Donald Bryant
Button
USAF
1968-05-24
Thailand
Vietnam
Air loss
1956
LTC
Robert Henry
Carter, Jr.
USA
1969-05-27
Kontum, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1956
MAJ
Leo Michael
Donker
USA
1966-04-03
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1956
MAJ
Roger Lee
Graham
USA
1969-06-10
Quang Nam, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1957
MAJ
James Westley
Ayers
USMC
1967-05-26
Quang Tri, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1957
CPT
Terry Denver
Cordell
USA
1962-10-15
RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1957
CPT
Thomas Joseph
Margle
USAF
1968-02-15
Ninh Thuan, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1958
1LT
Raymond Edgar
Doyle, Jr.
USAF
1963-04-12
Thailand
Vietnam
Air loss
1959
CPT
Clarence Larry
Moorer
USA
1963-12-12
RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1959
CPT
Hugh Reavis
Nelson
USA
1966-06-05
RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1959
CPT
David John Wick
Widder
USA
1965-03-24
RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1959
MAJ
William Esley
Wood, Jr.
USAF
1971-04-21
Quang Tri, RVN
Vietnam
Air loss
1960
CPT
John Werner
Carlson
USAF
1966-12-07
Tay Ninh, RVN
Vietnam
MIA/Shot down
1961
LCDR
Jere Alen
Barton
USN
1970-06-07
Kien Tuong, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1961
MAJ
Samuel Richard
Bird
USA
1984-10-18
Bong Son, RVN
Vietnam
WIA Jan 27, '67
1961
MAJ
James Terry
Jackson
USAF
1972-03-23
Laos
Vietnam
MIA/Shot down
1961
CPT
Benjamin Edward
Kelly, Jr.
USA
1967-08-30
Bihn Dinh, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1961
CPT
Thomas Curtis
Metsker
USA
1965-11-14
Ia Drang Valley, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1961
CPT
William David Howsa
Ragin
USA
1964-08-20
Kien Hoa,RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1961
MAJ
David Bruce
Tucker
USA
1967-10-01
RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1962
CPT
William Forman
Abernethy
USA
1967-07-21
Long Khanh, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1962
CPT
Henry Albert
Deutsch
USA
1965-05-11
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1962
CPT
Thomas Simcock
Hubbell
USMC
1967-12-27
Thua Thien, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1962
CPT
Kurt Lloyd
Kuhns, Sr.
USA
1967-09-08
RVN
Vietnam
Air loss
1962
CPT
Richard Edward
Legate
USA
1967-03-25
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1962
CPT
William Daniel
Sands, III
USA
1967-03-22
Pleiku, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1962
Capt
William A.
Thomas
USAF
1972-04-21
RVN
Vietnam
Air Loss
1963
CPT
Sam Festis
Beach, Jr.
USAF
1968-01-17
Quang Tri, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1963
2/Lt.
Davis J.
Boardman
USA
1968-02-01
Ground Long An, RVN
Vietnam
KIA
1963
MAJ
Robert Gerald
Hunter
USAF
1966-05-25
over Ban-Ban,Laos
Vietnam
Shot down
1963
1LT
Richard Mershon
Milikin, III
USAF
1967-08-20
North Vietnam
Vietnam
MIA/Shot down
1963
2LT
Phillip Jacob
Moog
USA
1966-08-10
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1963
Unk
Viruch
Tangnoi
RTA
1968-06-25
Unknown
Vietnam
Royal Thai Army?
1964
CPT
Charles Edward
Heine
USA
1969-01-03
RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1964
CPT
Anthony George
Prior
USA
1968-05-27
Binh Long, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1964
2LT
Richard James
Regan
USMC
1965-08-11
Quang Nam, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1964
1LT
James Clinton
Tarkenton, III
USA
1967-03-19
Binh Duong, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1964
1LT
William Judson
Thomason
USA
2006-01-15
Vietnam
WIA Nov '66
1964
1LT
Hugh William
Wellons
USA
1966-10-13
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1965
2LT
Joseph Cyril
Missar, Jr.
USMC
1966-05-06
Quang Nam, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1965
1LT
Frank Monroe
Murphy
USA
1966-12-07
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1965
MAJ
Woodrow Wilson
Parker, II
USAF
1968-04-24
North Vietnam
Vietnam
Shot down
1965
1LT
Arthur Clifton
Retzlaff
USA
1967-07-10
Kontum RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1966
1LT
Stephen Winfield
Davis
USA
1967-08-18
Quang Tin, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1966
CPT
Thomas Walter
Foy
USA
1968-05-15
Binh Dinh, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1966
2LT
John Luther
Fuller, Jr.
USMC
1967-03-23
Quang Nam, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1966
CPT
Fred Orr
Jackson, Jr.
USA
1969-09-05
Binh Long, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1966
1LT
Mark Mac Donald
Serrem
USA
1968-01-31
Pleiku, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1967
1LT
Fred Joshua
Carter
USAF
1969-11-05
Khanh Hoa, RVN
Vietnam
Air loss
1967
CPT
Glenn Richard
Cook
USAF
1969-10-21
Ninh Thuan, RVN
Vietnam
MIA/Shot down
1967
2LT
Frederick Young
Holjes
USA
1968-03-22
Thua Thien, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1967
HM2
William Livingston
Mc Cormick
USN
1969-03-07
Quang Nam, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1967
CPT
George Louis
Miner
USA
1969-08-17
Thua Thien, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1967
SGT
Thomas Duckett
O'Connor
USMC
1968-01-03
Quang Nam, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1967
1LT
Richard William
O'Keefe
USAF
1971-02-11
Ninh Thuan, RVN
Vietnam
Air loss
1967
CPT
George Thomas
Taylor, Jr.
USA
1971-05-21
Quang Tri, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1967
1LT
Bruce Richard
Welge
USA
1969-01-26
RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1968
CPT
Barry Kenneth
Allmond
USAF
1972-05-11
Binh Long, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1968
CPT
Ronald Anthony
Ashe
USAF
1972-07-30
U-Tapao RTAFB, Thailand
Vietnam
Air loss
1968
1LT
John Fredrick
Bradman
USA
1970-02-18
Phuoc Long, RVN
Vietnam
Accident
1968
1LT
Carl Alfred
Peterson
USA
1969-08-10
Thua Thien, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1968
1LT
Kenneth Martin
Schlie
USA
1970-10-20
Quang Ngai, RVN
Vietnam
Air loss
1968
1LT
Charles E.
Suprenant, Jr.
USAF
1970-04-02
Dak Seang, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1968
CPT
Robert Francis
Woodhouse, Jr.
USA
1970-07-07
Thua Thien, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1969
1LT
Christopher L.
Clearwaters
USA
1971-02-20
Phuoc Long, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1969
CPT
Joe Wofford
Eubanks
USA
1972-06-02
Pleiku, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1969
CPT
Carter Avery
Howell
USAF
1972-03-07
Saravane, Laos
Vietnam
MIA/Shot down
1969
WO1
Ephriam Rutledge
Liles, II
USA
1969-07-04
Phuoc Long, RVN
Vietnam
Shot down
1969
1LT
Richard Glenn
Repole
USA
1970-07-08
Quang Ngai, RVN
Vietnam
Ground
1969
SSG
Robert Francis
Scherdin
USA
1968-12-29
Cambodia
Vietnam
MIA/Ground
1977
CPT
Michael F.
Ritz
USA
1983-10-26
Calliste, Grenada, 82nd Airborne
Grenada
KIA
1981
1LT
Charles Jeffrey
Schnorf
USMC
1983-10-23
USMC Barracks, Beirut, Lebanon
Lebanon
KIA
1984
CPT
Mario J.
Fajardo
USA
1991-02-26
Desert Storm, 27th ENG Bn (combat) (airborne) 20th ENG BDE
Persian Gulf War
KIA
1985
LTC
Chad
Buehring
USA
2003-10-26
Baghdad, Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
1985
MSG
Robert V.
Derenda
USA
2005-08-05
Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
1987
Officer
Arsenio
Domingo Jr.
CPD
2006-01-07
Over Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
1989
CPT
Patrick
McKenna
USA
1994-04-14
Over northern Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
1993
CPT
Christopher
Kenny
USA
2004-05-03
Baghdad, Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
1996
CPT
Benjamin
Sammis
USMC
2003-04-05
Over central Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
1997
CPT
Daniel W.
Eggers
USA
2004-05-29
Afghanistan
War on Terrorism
KIA
1997
MAJ
Brian Michael
Mescall
USA
2009-01-09
Jaldak, Afghanistan
War on Terrorism
KIA
1998
LTJG
Peter
Ober
USN
2003-07-16
In air crash returning from combat
War on Terrorism
KIA
2001
1LT
Shane
Childers
USMC
2003-03-21
Ramallah Oil Fields, Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
2001
1LT
Dan Thomas
Malcom
USMC
2004-11-10
Fallujah, Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
2004
1LT
Almar
Fitzgerald
USMC
2006-02-21
Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
2004
Capt
Warren A.
Frank
USMC
2008-11-25
Biaj, Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
2004
Capt
Ryan
Hall
USAF
2012-02-18
Killed during combat op in Afghanistan
War on Terrorism
KIA
2004
1/Lt
Ryan
Rawl
SC Army National Guard
20 June 2012
Khost, Afghanistan
War on Terrorism
KIA
2005
1LT
Joshua
Booth
USMC
2006-10-17
Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
2005
LCPL
Timothy
Creager
USMC
2004-07-01
Iraq
War on Terrorism
KIA
2007
SGT
Aaron X.
Wittman
USA
2013-01-10
Nangarhar Province, Afghanistan
War on Terrorism
KIA
2009
LCPL
Jonathan A.
Taylor
USMC
2009-12-01
Helmand province of Afghanistan
War on Terrorism
KIA
Very impressive list! I was under the impression that a Citadel grad got a commission as an officer like most Military schools? I noticed several enlisted men named at the end of your list. What is the reason they were not officers? I mean no disrespect by asking the question as I also attended a Military school and understand their sacrifice.
ElCid
September 13th, 2013, 06:45 AM
Very impressive list! I was under the impression that a Citadel grad got a commission as an officer like most Military schools? I noticed several enlisted men named at the end of your list. What is the reason they were not officers? I mean no disrespect by asking the question as I also attended a Military school and understand their sacrifice.
I don't know the exact story of each of these, but most likely they went a year or two then simply left school and enlisted. The class year is simply the year they would have graduated had they stayed. I had a couple from my year do that. And one of them is on this list.
sgt smash
September 13th, 2013, 01:18 PM
Shane Childers was a Staff Sergeant then he went through the MECEP program to become an officer. The guy was a motivator and his book spoke highly of Citadel.
ThompsonThe
September 13th, 2013, 01:55 PM
How much better than moving to the CAA though?
Ha, ha, ha, funny. Why would we have ever wanted to move down to the CAA from the SoCon?
Why would anyone with any amount of sense? Keep that levity coming.
Lehigh Football Nation
September 13th, 2013, 02:17 PM
Umass, the flagship university for a State full of the VILEST yankee scum in the entire northeast, couldn't have won the PATRIOT LEAGUE
+1 xlolx
Tribal
September 13th, 2013, 02:23 PM
Ha, ha, ha, funny. Why would we have ever wanted to move down to the CAA from the SoCon?
Why would anyone with any amount of sense? Keep that levity coming.
Appy & GSU are the only SoCon schools on par with the top 6-7 CAA programs. Wofford may be up there, too. We have one weak program in Rhody. Top to bottom, the CAA is far superior to the SoCon. Period.
Lehigh Football Nation
September 13th, 2013, 02:24 PM
FWIW I'd even question Boise State's "success" at the FBS level, lumping their "success" as one of a winning of a PR battle the same way Troy appears to be. Boise still isn't in a "Big 5", they're still essentially in the AAA of the Mountain West. They're also not "making money" with their program.
dudeitsaid
September 13th, 2013, 02:37 PM
FWIW I'd even question Boise State's "success" at the FBS level, lumping their "success" as one of a winning of a PR battle the same way Troy appears to be. Boise still isn't in a "Big 5", they're still essentially in the AAA of the Mountain West. They're also not "making money" with their program.
Maybe so. In my mind, I think of that question in terms of their ability to compete. And with that mindset, they have been one of the, if not the most successful FCS transition to date. Additionally, as a byproduct of their on field success, they have certainly generated a much higher level of national recognition in the FBS than the FCS, with the high point IMO being the famed Tostitos Fiesta Bowl. If I were them, I'd be pleased!
ASUMountaineer
September 13th, 2013, 03:03 PM
FWIW I'd even question Boise State's "success" at the FBS level, lumping their "success" as one of a winning of a PR battle the same way Troy appears to be. Boise still isn't in a "Big 5", they're still essentially in the AAA of the Mountain West. They're also not "making money" with their program.
Shocking.
Skjellyfetti
September 13th, 2013, 03:58 PM
FWIW I'd even question Boise State's "success" at the FBS level, lumping their "success" as one of a winning of a PR battle the same way Troy appears to be. Boise still isn't in a "Big 5", they're still essentially in the AAA of the Mountain West. They're also not "making money" with their program.
For the 1,000th time: college athletics is not and should not be about making a profit.
Some (read: very, very few) especially large athletic departmets do make a profit. They are far and away the exception to the rule.
Pointing to a Boise State and saying they are not a success story because they do not make a profit is ridiculous.
If profiting is the goal of college athletics, all but 25 or so athletic departments should be scrapped... because they're in the red.
Saint3333
September 13th, 2013, 04:06 PM
Boise St. not a success. I've seen some bias post from Captain of the SS FCS, but this is either hyperbole to get a response or the dumbest post in the history of AGS (which is quite an accomplishment).
ASUMountaineer
September 13th, 2013, 04:09 PM
For the 1,000th time: college athletics is not and should not be about making a profit.
Some (read: very, very few) especially large athletic departmets do make a profit. They are far and away the exception to the rule.
Pointing to a Boise State and saying they are not a success story because they do not make a profit is ridiculous.
If profiting is the goal of college athletics, all but 25 or so athletic departments should be scrapped... because they're in the red.
Those with an axe as big as LFN's to grind rarely entertain logic.
ASUMountaineer
September 13th, 2013, 04:13 PM
For the 1,000th time: college athletics is not and should not be about making a profit.
Some (read: very, very few) especially large athletic departmets do make a profit. They are far and away the exception to the rule.
Pointing to a Boise State and saying they are not a success story because they do not make a profit is ridiculous.
If profiting is the goal of college athletics, all but 25 or so athletic departments should be scrapped... because they're in the red.
Boise St. not a success. I've seen some bias post from Captain of the SS FCS, but this is either hyperbole to get a response or the dumbest post in the history of AGS (which is quite an accomplishment).
Be careful or LFN's knight in shining armor Mr. C may give you a red chicklet to...I guess, teach a lesson? xlolx
Lehigh Football Nation
September 13th, 2013, 04:45 PM
Boise St. not a success. I've seen some bias post from Captain of the SS FCS, but this is either hyperbole to get a response or the dumbest post in the history of AGS (which is quite an accomplishment).
If it costs the university $10 million a year to replicate Boise State's success, is it worth it? Some would say "yes", some would say "no". What is the university spending on its main mission, academics? Would the $10 million be better spent there?
The fact remains Boise State subsidizes it's athletic department with $10 million a year in subsidies from various sources. Without it, they wouldn't survive. As much revenue as Boise State has made (and it's largely been due to their great on-the-field success), they're still not alongside the Notre Dame, Michigan, or USC's.
Makes you wonder what might happen with a couple back-to-back 6-6 seasons.
Skjellyfetti
September 13th, 2013, 05:44 PM
The fact remains Boise State subsidizes it's athletic department with $10 million a year in subsidies from various sources. Without it, they wouldn't survive.
You're not getting it.
Almost every athletic department "subsidizes it's [sic] athletic department.
There are a grand total of 7 athletic departments in USA Today's database that do not. xlolx 3% of the programs in their database do not subsidize their athletic department.
Sounds like you're wishing college athletics consisted of Nebraska, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Penn State, Purdue, Texas... and that's it. Every other athletic department should be scrapped!
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/schools/finances/
Out of 228 programs in their database.... Boise State ranks 48th. They're doing relatively well.
Their % subsidy is 24.96%.
By FCS standards.... they're doing EXTREMELY WELL.
There isn't a single FCS program in the database that has a better % subsidy. xlolx
The best FCS program is Missouri State at 37.14%.
Without it, they wouldn't survive.
Yeah, Boise State would be hurting without subsidies... mainly in student fees.
But, don't kid yourself...
...without student fees... there would be no FCS. xcoffeex
As much revenue as Boise State has made (and it's largely been due to their great on-the-field success), they're still not alongside the Notre Dame, Michigan, or USC's.Oh. Poor them! That must be so terrible! Not even among such programs as Notre Dame, Michigan, or USC. :(
If that is your standard.... Lehigh sure has a lot of work to do. xlolx
Sitting Bull
September 13th, 2013, 06:36 PM
Oh, I get it. It's the difference between running a half million in the red (FCS) vs running $2M+ in the red (FBS).
ElCid
September 13th, 2013, 08:52 PM
Appy & GSU are the only SoCon schools on par with the top 6-7 CAA programs. Wofford may be up there, too. We have one weak program in Rhody. Top to bottom, the CAA is far superior to the SoCon. Period.
I'm sorry, are we talking this year or the past few? This year, most likely. The last ten, on average, I would say about on par with each other. And as much as I cringe to even think about doing this....Wofford 23 - NH 7, 1 Dec 12. Oh that hurt defending the ankle biters. SOCON will be back. Each has had up and down years. That is why I love the playoffs. And I wish we actually had some more OOC games between the CAA and SOCON. I would love some 2 year series with W&M, Richmond or JMU. Or better yet come back to the SOCON and get away from all those Yankees.xnodx
Saint3333
September 13th, 2013, 08:55 PM
You can't seriously be defending that asinine question of whether Boise St. Is a success.
With that mentality there is not one program at the FCS level that is a "success". Please continue to argue it will be without this poster.
seantaylor
September 14th, 2013, 03:32 AM
Boise State not a success? Guy has to be Sammy Baker
Apphole
September 14th, 2013, 08:19 AM
FWIW I'd even question Boise State's "success" at the FBS level, lumping their "success" as one of a winning of a PR battle the same way Troy appears to be. Boise still isn't in a "Big 5", they're still essentially in the AAA of the Mountain West. They're also not "making money" with their program.
Thanks for the sig addition! You and chattown are a gold mine.
And "FWIW" from you is exactly zero when it comes to an FBS discussion....which accounts for 99% of your posts on this forum.
Sitting Bull
September 14th, 2013, 08:33 AM
Boise State has been an outstanding success.
i think the point is though - the best it has gotten them is an invite to Big East football which they traded for the MWC. That's still a nice move up from the Big Sky but if that's the very best scenario for an FCS move up, it seems a bit mellow. After all their success and media following, they still lay outside the big boy club with an extremely limited shot at a championship.
The fact is the vast majority of FCS trade-ups have moved into conferences made up of other FCS trade-ups.
Lehigh Football Nation
September 14th, 2013, 10:13 AM
It also costs students + Idaho taxpayers $10 million per year to not compete for the crystal ball trophy and play against Big 5 teams. Something NDSU can also do at the FCS level at a fraction of the cost and still win an NCAA championship.
PaladinFan
September 14th, 2013, 10:58 AM
Are we actually still talking about this?
Apphole
September 14th, 2013, 06:50 PM
You picked a bad week to decide you are an Eagle. xnodx
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