Pac-10 Suspends Refs

[AppGuy04]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2593564

The Pacific-10 Conference suspended for one game the officiating crew and the instant replay officials that worked Saturday's Oklahoma-Oregon football game after finding mistakes were made in calls near the end of the contest.

Pac-10 Commissioner Tom Hansen said Monday that a review by conference officials of video of the game revealed that both the instant replay officials and the game officials assigned by the conference made errors in the final minute and 12 seconds of the game.

Anyone else see this game? I watched the end. I missed the suspect call though

[bluehenbillk]

If ever a game was stolen, this was it. Listened to Rivals radio this morning & didn't know that replay refs are home town guys, the BCS conferences don't travel replay refs, that's scary. The official sounds like a senile old man that shouldn't have been in the booth in the first place.

[Marcus Garvey]

Is it just me, or since replay was introduced in I-A football, the officiating has gotten worse. It seems to me that I see more blown calls on the field, regardless of whether they're overturned or challanged.

Replay sucks in college. Put pressure on the refs to be more accurate on the field. You'll always have blown calls, but the goal should be to minimize them.

[AppGuy04]

They are taught to not call it or blow it dead b/c it CAN be reviewed

[JALMOND]

Two plays that were questionable and led to the suspension of the Pac-10 referee team. First was on the onside kick after the Ducks got to within 5 points with 1:20 left in the 4th. The officials and the replay booth both said it was a legal touch, even though TV showed it looked like a Duck player touched the ball before 10 yards and before a Sooner player touched it. Second, same drive, 3rd and 10 and the Ducks got a benefit of a pass interference call that kept the drive alive and resulted in, what showed to be the winning touchdown. Give the Sooners credit, they kept at the game and tried to win it regardless at the end (45 yd FG blocked as time ran out).

Oklahoma has petitioned the Big 12 to throw out the results of the game due to "blatant homerism" of the officiating crew. Can Colorado, a member of the same conference, do the same with the Montana State game?

[dbackjon]

Of course it comes out now that the replay ref was NOT GIVEN the angle showing the Oregon player touching the ball, but the angle were it appeared that the Oklahoma player touched it first.

And, the Oklahoma yahoos are phoning death threats to it - sick bastards in Oklahoma.

[Marcus Garvey]

Oklahoma has petitioned the Big 12 to throw out the results of the game due to "blatant homerism" of the officiating crew. Can Colorado, a member of the same conference, do the same with the Montana State game?

The Big 12 is essentially the Big 8, expanded and renamed, as opposed to an all new conference....
If Colorado's 5th down game 16 years ago stood, and Nebraska's "kicked" ball to keep it alive also stood, then so should this. Yeah, it sucks, but get over it. Hate to break it to you OU, but you weren't going to win the Big 12 South this year, let alone a National Championship!

[Mr. C]

If ever a game was stolen, this was it. Listened to Rivals radio this morning & didn't know that replay refs are home town guys, the BCS conferences don't travel replay refs, that's scary. The official sounds like a senile old man that shouldn't have been in the booth in the first place.
That makes you question the call that was overturned in the Furman-North Carolina game even more. There was no indisputable evidence in that one to overturn Furman recovering the onside kick with 10 seconds left. You could clearly see an official in position 10 yards away from the kick to make that call, if someone touched it early and on the replay that you needed to see if it was touched early, a North Carolina player was in the way, blocking the view and you couldn't see when the Furman player made contact. Would be just like the ACC to have had someone from Chapel Hill there in the replay booth.

[JALMOND]

If ever a game was stolen, this was it. Listened to Rivals radio this morning & didn't know that replay refs are home town guys, the BCS conferences don't travel replay refs, that's scary. The official sounds like a senile old man that shouldn't have been in the booth in the first place.

Whoa, BHB. The replay official was a retired Pac-10 official who has an extensive history of working Pac-10 games for 30 years as well as the Rose Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl. Most of the NFL replay officials are retired NFL field officials as well. Ironically, he was on the line judge of Cal-Stanford's "Big Game" from 1982 (the one with the band on the field). It was not like he was "senile" as he had retired just two years ago.

www.oregonlive.com/canzano

The officiating crew were all veteran Pac-10 officials with extensive post season experience who had never worked together. It seems that the Pac-10 tried to get an all-star crew together for the magnitude of the game. The only thing the conference could be blamed for is that the crew had not officiated together.

[gokats85]

Give the replay official EVERY camera angle that the TV network truck has. Still might slow the game game down though. Screw it! Dump the new clock rules too:twocents: !

[ucdtim17]

What they need to do is stick a camera on the 45 yard line for onside kick situations. Yes it looks about 99% certain the ball hit the UO player before going ten yards, but since the angles are all off, you have to guess. While it looks pretty obvious, it's hard to say it's "indisputable" which is the bar you have to clear for overturning a call

[JALMOND]

1. Making calls as I see them, knowing only half the fans watching will appreciate it.

2. Hoping that, if I'm not in the right spot to make the correct call, someone on my team saw it correctly.

3. Knowing that, if the call I made is wrong, it will be replayed over and over on sports news nationwide.

4. Having to deal with "good-natured kidding" about the one that was "blatantly" wrong and "cost us the game".

5. Thinking that I did a good job calling the game as I saw it, then being accused of being a "homer".

[bluehenbillk]

Whoa, BHB. The replay official was a retired Pac-10 official who has an extensive history of working Pac-10 games for 30 years as well as the Rose Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl. Most of the NFL replay officials are retired NFL field officials as well. Ironically, he was on the line judge of Cal-Stanford's "Big Game" from 1982 (the one with the band on the field). It was not like he was "senile" as he had retired just two years ago.

www.oregonlive.com/canzano

The officiating crew were all veteran Pac-10 officials with extensive post season experience who had never worked together. It seems that the Pac-10 tried to get an all-star crew together for the magnitude of the game. The only thing the conference could be blamed for is that the crew had not officiated together.

Yep I know all that, but this guy has come out & admitted he has no confidence working in the booth & much preferred being on the field, this guy has no place making that decision.

[walliver]

I know I'm probably beating a dead horse, but instant replay needs to go away. There is nothing precise about football. We measure quite accurately for first downs, but there is no precision in where the yardsticks are placed in the first place. When the ball is replaced after a play, the referee usually just puts it in the general neighborhood of where it should be. Currently we review some things, but other things are not reviewable. The NCAA is changing the rules to shorten the game, while at the same time, these reviews are dragging the games out.

Currently we have a two-tiered system of football. Televised games are played by different rules than non-televised games.