MVFC Thursday game thread

[Twentysix]

I figured the games playing today don't have enough of a combined online presence to warrant 5 separate threads.

Discuss:

#31 Indiana State University (0-0 0-0) @ {#NR} Indiana University [B1G] (0-0)

#10 Illinois State University (0-0 0-0) @ {#NR} Ball State University [MAC] (0-0)

#NR Northwestern State University [SLC] (0-0) @ #NR Missouri State University (0-0 0-0)

#NR Hampton University [MEAC] (0-0) @ #NR Western Illinois University (0-0 0-0)

#NR University of Dayton [Pioneer] (0-0) @ #23 Youngstown State University (0-0 0-0)

In this thread if you are watching!

I will be watching the ISU-r Ball State game after I get back form a scholars banquet.

[Twentysix]

http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index#type/upcoming/

Illinois State vs Ball State at 7pm est.

[JSUBison]

I'll be watching watching Indiana/ISU-B.

[Twentysix]

Just got the game going on Espn3.

http://espn.go.com/watchespn/player/_/id/1028764/

[Twentysix]

Wow, ISU-r is moving the ball at will atm. 2 first downs and a 16 yd qb sneak.

[Twentysix]

3rd first down to ISU-r 10+ yd pass. They are rolling.

Announcers have called them Iowa State a few times already lol.

[Twentysix]

15 yd pass, another ISU-r first down. 21yds to go.

[Twentysix]

9 yd run, ISU-r has got to be averaging like 13+ yds per snap atm.

[Twentysix]

1st down ISU-r. 10 yd run.

2 yds to go.

[Twentysix]

Touchdown ISU-R!

5:03 drive. I think they had 2 2nd downs.

7-0 ISU-r leads, gashing the MAC team at will.

[aces1180]

Indiana is going to smoke ISU-B...7-0 Hoosiers

[Twentysix]

We shall see how the ISU-r D fairs, but its looking like they could smoke Ball st.

[Twentysix]

Ball State is moving the ball pretty easily too.

ISU-r holds Ball state for no gain. finally a 2nd down.

[BisonFan02]

Watching Ball State and Kent State confirms the MAC isn't very good.

[Twentysix]

Ball state moves the ball at will against ISU-r but misses the XP, 7-6 ISU-r leads.

[Twentysix]

Who the hell is Presbyterian college and why are they beating wake forest?

lol (ok that's tongue in cheek.)

[Twentysix]

Ball state was holding ISU-r on back to back runs, total stuffs..

Then ISU-r aired it out 22yd reception.

[Twentysix]

50 yd touchdown pass, torched Ball state.
14-6 ISU-r.

[BisonFan02]

Don't look now, but Indiana State has tied it up at 7 with Indiana....MVFC looking good so far.

[Twentysix]

4th and goal, ISU-r holds.

[Twentysix]

14-9 ISU-r,

Ball state makes FG.

[Twentysix]

Ball state holds, 4 & 8.

Redbirds will punt.

[aces1180]

Indiana with a 43 yard pass and catch...14-7

[Twentysix]

Great D by redbird CB.

Then a nice sack for a loss of 9.

3rd and 19 after the commercial break.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Great D by redbird CB.

Then a nice sack for a loss of 9.

3rd and 19 after the commercial break.



How is that big RB ISU has doing?

Is he looking good running?

[aces1180]

Bell just coughed up the ball and Indiana recovers.

[Twentysix]

3rd and 24, after a false start.

[Twentysix]

How is that big RB ISU has doing?

Is he looking good running?

No.

Their QB scrambling and their passing game is the only thing that is a threat.

[Twentysix]

He only has 2 carries, one was a FB-esque goalline play. His long is 2 yards.

[Twentysix]

Ball state misses their FG, wide right and short.

[Twentysix]

ISU-r is rolling again, picking ball st apart with the passing game.

[Twentysix]

ISU-r to punt, Ball state starts at the 12.

[Twentysix]

redbirds get a great pass break-up 3rd and 4.

Ball st overthrows WR. 4th and 4.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

LOL.....Valpo moving the ball on UND....xlolx

[Twentysix]

LOL.....Valpo moving the ball on UND....xlolx

Nuh uh.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Nuh uh.


2 1st downs in a row....

[Twentysix]

2 1st downs in a row....

BWahahahhahahaha

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Yikes....75 yard TD for UND...Hardin too fast for Valpo.

Sorry 26 for the hijack.

[Twentysix]

Illinois State on the 4yd line. Ball State getting picked apart in the air.

[Twentysix]

Keep it coming NW MN

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

What's the Ill State score?

[Twentysix]

Its about to be 21-9.

[Twentysix]

Easy pitch and catch, TD.

20-9 XP pending.

ISU-r left Ball state 3 minutes to answer before half.

[Twentysix]

XP good, 21-9.

[sgt smash]

I don't think ISU-r has to worry about three minutes. Hope the D can hold up.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

XP good, 21-9.


Sh**....I should have picked ISU....xsmhx


UND....punt return for a TD. Long night for Valpo.

[Twentysix]

Liberty up on Kent St 10-7, Liberty has possession too.

Not a good day to be in a ****ty FBS conference.

If the MVFC were magically allowed to become FBS, we would be instantly superior to the MAC. Probably the sunbelt also.

[Twentysix]

Ball states butterfingers screw them, they have 1 shot at the endzone.

[Twentysix]

They make the pass, 4 seconds remain in the half, 15-21.

[Twentysix]

16-21 ball state made the XP.

[Bison56]

Bell is down.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Bell is down.


Not a surprise. Valley teams will beat the crap out of him.

[clenz]

Not a surprise. Valley teams will beat the crap out of him.

Yep.

If he can avoid contact had on he's okay.

More than a couple head on his though and he is gonna be hurting

quando omni flunkus moritati

[Twentysix]

Huge pickup by ball state, they are in position to score.

[Twentysix]

Ball state up 22-21.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Yep.

If he can avoid contact had on he's okay.

More than a couple head on his though and he is gonna be hurting

quando omni flunkus moritati


In the thread you posted the records of the Pioneer schools against other conferences, Drake must have been pretty good years ago. They have a pretty good record against most Valley teams....decades ago.

[saxbison]

This has been some of the stupidest playcalling I've ever seen. In the ISUr Ball State game. ISU just ran three in a row while Ball is putting 8 in the box.

[Twentysix]

This has been some of the stupidest playcalling I've ever seen. In the ISUr Ball State game. ISU just ran three in a row while Ball is putting 8 in the box.

Even more so because ISUr is picking ball st apart in the air..

[clenz]

In the thread you posted the records of the Pioneer schools against other conferences, Drake must have been pretty good years ago. They have a pretty good record against most Valley teams....decades ago.
Much like their basketball program. They had one good year in 2008, but prior to that they have been a sub .500 for the vast majority of the last 50 years. Long long ago they were one of the "blue bloods" - back when the MVC had Kansas, Cinci, Louisville, etc...

I don't know what happened but they've gone from great athletics but terrible athletics.

[saxbison]

Even more so because ISUr is picking ball st apart in the air..

Jesus Christ. Spack should be fired if they lose this game. They are out MSUing MSU.

[Twentysix]

I feel like if they threw more they would be winning by more than a TD.
I can't believe this play calling either.

[Twentysix]

Interception to Ball State, its about to be 37-21. That's gotta be game.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

That's gotta be game.


How much time left in Ill State game?

[Twentysix]

First player to fall to the new ejection rule.

[Twentysix]

How much time left in Ill State game?

Like 18min. But ISU-r's wheels have fallen off, and one of their defensive players was just ejected.

[Twentysix]

Actually it was their center, I forgot it was an interception.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Actually it was their center, I forgot it was an interception.


Typical ISU....find something that works then go completely the opposite direction...

[Bisonator]

Interception to Ball State, its about to be 37-21. That's gotta be game.

Sh**! Why did I pick ISU again???xnonono2x

[marenlee]

Indiana State making it a game somehow. Goes from 45-7 to now 45-28

[Twentysix]

So I guess ISUR lost their starting center for the first half of their game next week against EIU.

[Twentysix]

It's too bad too, ISU was kicking the crap out of Ball State the first 26:30 of the game.

[ysubigred]

What's up!! The way YSU is playing we'll be lucky to win 6 games this year. Really looking stupid against a decent Dayton team. YSU still has the 1st team in mid 3rd QTR up 14-3 but about to go 21-3.

[Twentysix]

I have an idea, we (ISU-r) are crushing ball state through the air, and getting decimated when running. Lets run more!

[saxbison]

I have an idea, we (ISU-r) is crushing ball state through the air, and getting decimated when running. Lets run more!

No joke.

[Houndawg]

So I guess ISUR lost their starting center for the first half of their game next week against EIU.

EIU is at SIU next week.

[Twentysix]

EIU is at SIU next week.

Correct, Still against EIU, just the week after. I guess they have a bye next week.

[ysubigred]

21-10 YSU. Losing starters to injuries like pop corn xbangx

[Twentysix]

21-10 YSU. Losing starters to injuries like pop corn xbangx

Oh no, a poor showing against a Pioneer school doesn't bode well :s.

[ysubigred]

Oh no, a poor showing against a Pioneer school doesn't bode well :s.

Hess just picked AGAIN!! Dayton's ball on YSU 11! Stay tuned YSU might only win 3 games this year.

[Twentysix]

xsmhx
Hess just picked AGAIN!! Dayton's ball on YSU 11! Stay tuned YSU might only win 3 games this year.

[Twentysix]

Ball state about to double ISUr's score.

[Twentysix]

Lmao, Illinois State fumbles the kick return twice.

Ball State ball 20 yds from the endzone, Ball state leads 44-21.

[clenz]

YSU has a different hype coming into this year than last...with more returners I thought.

[ysubigred]

xsmhx

I've said it the last 3 years Hess sucks. Wolford sucks worse. This team has no emotion and no drive. YSU held on Defense though!! Dayton had 3 shots from the YSU 1 and came away with 0

[Twentysix]

WIU thrashing Hampton 42-9

[Twentysix]

I've said it the last 3 years Hess sucks. Wolford sucks worse. This team has no emotion and no drive. YSU held on Defense though!! Dayton had 3 shots from the YSU 1 and came away with 0

Idk about hess, but I have seen Wolford lose games for YSU that were all but wrapped up with horrendous play calling/clock management.

[ysubigred]

YSU's WR must run 5.4 40's?? Scary how bad this team looks. Not taking anything away from Dayton they came to play hard!

[Twentysix]

YSU's WR must run 5.4 40's?? Scary how bad this team looks. Not taking anything away from Dayton they came to play hard!

You should look into Billy Turner, I mean we use him as a LT, but hes tall and faster than that :p.

[ysubigred]

The best player on YSU's team is the punter... Seriously xcrazyx

[clenz]

Serious question...and I know coming from me it will be douchey.


What the **** happened over in Ohio? 12 months ago the listening to the fan base it was YSU is going to win the next 4 titles at least. Wolford is the best coach in the nation, brining in SEC talent. Blah blah blah.

It's like the entire program the last decade has been built around trying to beat UNI and now that it happened **** is all over and falling apart...again...

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Serious question...and I know coming from me it will be douchey.


What the **** happened over in Ohio? 12 months ago the listening to the fan base it was YSU is going to win the next 4 titles at least. Wolford is the best coach in the nation, brining in SEC talent. Blah blah blah.

It's like the entire program the last decade has been built around trying to beat UNI and now that it happened **** is all over and falling apart...again...


YSU came into Fargo last year ranked #3, I think and got crushed. They were not the same team the rest of the year. IMO, the coach needs to go.

[ysubigred]

Serious question...and I know coming from me it will be douchey.


What the **** happened over in Ohio? 12 months ago the listening to the fan base it was YSU is going to win the next 4 titles at least. Wolford is the best coach in the nation, brining in SEC talent. Blah blah blah.

It's like the entire program the last decade has been built around trying to beat UNI and now that it happened **** is all over and falling apart...again...

You have never heard that from me. I wanted him (Wolford) gone the 3rd year He's getting out coached so bad right now it's not funny!! I'll admit I maybe over reacting but YSU has not showed anything in the second half. Typical Wolford coaching. Seriously I'd love to know what he says to the team at half that they come out so flat almost every game we play. Pitt was the best game I've see YSU play since he's been here!

YSU 28-10 xhighfivex Big run by Belemy!!

[clenz]

YSU came into Fargo last year ranked #3, I think and got crushed. They were not the same team the rest of the year. IMO, the coach needs to go.
That was the first game after they finally beat UNI.

All I remember reading last year was THIS IS THE YEAR YSU BEATS UNI! YSU WILL CRUSH PEOPLE!

YSU beat UNI and the trumpeting got louder....you could see from the reaction of the players, coaches, and fans they thought more of that win than any win since their last title, and maybe more than that one. They then had a bye week to do nothing except celebrate and party.

NDSU **** stomped them as a result.


I really, with every inch of my body, believe that all YSU has cared about the last 7 years or so was beating UNI. They built the team around 1 game and 1 team. They got that W and didn't know what to do with themselves....still don't.

[clenz]

You have never heard that from me. I wanted him (Wolford) gone the 3rd year He's getting out coached so bad right now it's not funny!! I'll admit I maybe over reacting but YSU has not showed anything in the second half. Typical Wolford coaching. Seriously I'd love to know what he says to the team at half that they come out so flat almost every game we play. Pitt was the best game I've see YSU play since he's been here!

YSU 28-10 xhighfivex Big run by Belemy!!
There is a large contingient of YSU fans that haven't been around since the week between UNI and NDSU last season. They were in full force prior to that here, CS, panthernation, etc...

[ysubigred]

Belemy 17 caries 203 yards!

[ysubigred]

There is a large contingient of YSU fans that haven't been around since the week between UNI and NDSU last season. They were in full force prior to that here, CS, panthernation, etc...

I'll be here with ya Clenzy. I'm a real fan win or lose. I'll call it like I see it. Good or bad.

[clenz]

I'll be here with ya Clenzy. I'm a real fan win or lose. I'll call it like I see it. Good or bad.
Good.

The posters I remember the names of were something like guinzone and/or guinpower.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

That was the first game after they finally beat UNI.

All I remember reading last year was THIS IS THE YEAR YSU BEATS UNI! YSU WILL CRUSH PEOPLE!

YSU beat UNI and the trumpeting got louder....you could see from the reaction of the players, coaches, and fans they thought more of that win than any win since their last title, and maybe more than that one. They then had a bye week to do nothing except celebrate and party.

NDSU **** stomped them as a result.


I really, with every inch of my body, believe that all YSU has cared about the last 7 years or so was beating UNI. They built the team around 1 game and 1 team. They got that W and didn't know what to do with themselves....still don't.



Probably right with that.

Most teams in the Valley circle the UNI game on their schedule. But putting all your eggs in one basket is not good. NDSU will probably not go undefeated and might have multiple losses this year but as long as they make a deep run and possible NC then that is OK with this fan. Even losing to UNI as long as they win the NC.

YSU must have put everything into beating UNI last year cus they laid a huge egg with NDSU....but NDSU had a lot to do with it.

[clenz]

Probably right with that.

Most teams in the Valley circle the UNI game on their schedule. But putting all your eggs in one basket is not good. NDSU will probably not go undefeated and might have multiple losses this year but as long as they make a deep run and possible NC then that is OK with this fan. Even losing to UNI as long as they win the NC.

YSU must have put everything into beating UNI last year cus they laid a huge egg with NDSU....but NDSU had a lot to do with it.
YSU is 7-20 all time against UNI...that sticks in their craw.

What really sticks in their craws even more is that prior to last year the last time YSU beat UNI was 2000 - 11 games in a row....14 of the last 17.

YSU has just 4 wins against UNI since UNI went D1 in 1985....




I don't think I'm that far off with the "the last half decade or so has been all about beating UNI" thought

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Yikes, Indiana State is getting crushed 73-28

[ST_Lawson]

WIU thrashing Hampton 42-9

Our offense still needs some work, a lot of that was our Defense...9 turnovers (two of them INTs for TDs) for us. Good sign for the future, despite a lack of offensive output (although significantly better than the last two years), we had no turnovers against us...no fumbles, no interceptions thrown by our new QB. Our freshman kicker does really well on punts and kickoffs, still needs a bit of confidence on FGs and XPs though. Still, at this point, it looks like a pretty good improvement over last year.

[clenz]

Yikes, Indiana State is getting crushed 73-28
My long time prediction is happening sooner than I thought.

I've predicted for a couple years now that when Bell was gone ISUb was going to go right back to where they were. Maybe not 1-58 bad again - but fight with USD for last place/2-3 wins per year bad.

There is likely only one coach in the entire nation that could/believed he could win at Indiana State - Trent Miles. In 5 years he took ISUb from the middle of that 1-58 record to 7 wins. He is an Indiana State alum and played at Indiana State. If ANYONE could get fans excited, get players to believe/buy in, get the school rallied, anything it was him.

He got them to 7-4, saw that was realistically the top as Bell was flirting with the NFL, and the team had/has NOTHING beside Bell for any kind of playmaker at any position, and BOLTED FOR GEORGIA FREAKING STATE. What, being honest with yourself, does that tell you about that program?

USD will soon have a cellar mate

[Twentysix]

My long time prediction is happening sooner than I thought.

I've predicted for a couple years now that when Bell was gone ISUb was going to go right back to where they were. Maybe not 1-58 bad again - but fight with USD for last place/2-3 wins per year bad.

There is likely only one coach in the entire nation that could/believed he could win at Indiana State - Trent Miles. In 5 years he took ISUb from the middle of that 1-58 record to 7 wins. He is an Indiana State alum and played at Indiana State. If ANYONE could get fans excited, get players to believe/buy in, get the school rallied, anything it was him.

He got them to 7-4, saw that was realistically the top as Bell was flirting with the NFL, and the team had/has NOTHING beside Bell for any kind of playmaker at any position, and BOLTED FOR GEORGIA FREAKING STATE. What, being honest with yourself, does that tell you about that program?

USD will soon have a cellar mate

USD will probably be a 4-6th place team in a very few short years, very occasionally being a 2nd or 3rd place team. Probably a lot like Illinois State. Probably by the '15-16 season USD will be a solid middle of the pack MVFC team. To be fair, UND will probably win the big sky by then.

[clenz]

USD will probably be a 4-6th place team in a very few short years, very occasionally being a 2nd or 3rd place team. Probably a lot like Illinois State. Probably by the '15-16 season USD will be a solid middle of the pack MVFC team.
You have much more hope for them than I.

If USD ever finishes top 3 some very very crazy **** happened....injuries, plane crash, etc...


6th I could see....MSU, WIU, and soon ISUb are all very poor teams.

[Twentysix]

You have much more hope for them than I.

If USD ever finishes top 3 some very very crazy **** happened....injuries, plane crash, etc...


6th I could see....MSU, WIU, and soon ISUb are all very poor teams.

All USD has to do is tap Minnesota and Nebraska along with some SD kids and they will be a top 25 FCS team now and again.

Now, I'm not claming they are going to be a super power, but they will be a solid MVFC team.

[clenz]

That's assuming the beat SDSU, NDSU, UNI, or even UND out for those kids that are actually "worth" playing in the D1 level of the MVFC.

[Ex Pat]

UND has some upside right now because they hit a home run with a stud receiver in Harden and decent support. But they have questions pretty much everywhere else. I need to see a legit qb before I start thinking anything close to big sky champ.

[Ex Pat]

Meant to reply to 26 on that last one. Still new, I get two more ef ups:)

[penguinpower]

Good.

The posters I remember the names of were something like guinzone and/or guinpower.

Wasn't me even though I can't stand your liberal university.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

USD will probably be a 4-6th place team in a very few short years, very occasionally being a 2nd or 3rd place team. Probably a lot like Illinois State. Probably by the '15-16 season USD will be a solid middle of the pack MVFC team. To be fair, UND will probably win the big sky by then.


Very doubtful.

USD will be a bottom half Valley team for many years.

[MSUDuo]

The Bears just suck. My gawd that was awful to watch

[clenz]

Bears fans are a lot like YSU fans....most years they talk about how this is finally the year. They get pissy when I, and others, tell them no.they them end up watching the same results of not even coming close to expectations.


This year is different though. Both seem to be real down on their teams...strange shift from past years. Maybe reality is setting in with where they belong in the MVFC pecking order

quando omni flunkus moritati

[clenz]

I also now don't think USD goes winless this year in conference...I think they take out MSU

quando omni flunkus moritati

[Bisonator]

Pretty ugly first games for most teams. Very disappointed in the ISUr game. I picked them to beat Ball State and they had them on the ropes but pissed down their leg. ISUb is in serious trouble if Bell is out for awhile. That poor kid has taken a 4 year beating for them! YSU looked mediocre at best. I'm still not sure what their problem is but it looks like it starts with the HC. MSU, not much to say really, they may very well get beat by USD this year.

[skinny_uncle]

The Bears just suck. My gawd that was awful to watch

I really thought they would win last night at home.

[Twentysix]

I really thought they would win last night at home.

Me too, disappointed that they will probably suck again this year.

[Twentysix]

UND has some upside right now because they hit a home run with a stud receiver in Harden and decent support. But they have questions pretty much everywhere else. I need to see a legit qb before I start thinking anything close to big sky champ.

If UND ever plays Midwest style defense and run oriented football they will be competing with Montana for the Sky.

[MSUDuo]

Bears fans are a lot like YSU fans....most years they talk about how this is finally the year. They get pissy when I, and others, tell them no.they them end up watching the same results of not even coming close to expectations.


This year is different though. Both seem to be real down on their teams...strange shift from past years. Maybe reality is setting in with where they belong in the MVFC pecking order

quando omni flunkus moritati

Based on tradition, I'd agree we belong at the bottom of the MVFC.

Given the school, resources, decent fan base considering what we've been feed the last 20 years, I can't disagree more.

But, as they say, football is a whole different animal.

I really don't know what Allen did to warrant getting to year 7, or 8. I don't even know anymore! It's disgusting and bringing in reject coaches just won't work.

[OBC]

That's assuming the beat SDSU, NDSU, UNI, or even UND out for those kids that are actually "worth" playing in the D1 level of the MVFC.

USD is not a good program right now and you like to constantly point that out. I am sure you are frustrated that NDSU AND SDSU have blown by your program. Your FB program's best days are behind you.

NDSU AND SDSU regularly take your recruits and even USD got one of your commitments to decommit and go to USD this past year.

USD will finish in the top 3 of the MVFC before UNI wins it outright. Neither will happen anytime soon though.

[BisonFan02]

USD is not a good program right now and you like to constantly point that out. I am sure you are frustrated that NDSU AND SDSU have blown by your program. Your FB program's best days are behind you.

NDSU AND SDSU regularly take your recruits and even USD got one of your commitments to decommit and go to USD this past year.

USD will finish in the top 3 of the MVFC before UNI wins it outright. Neither will happen anytime soon though.

Disagree. UNI has a good team this year and will be even more of a force with Kollmorgen the following two years.

[UNIFanSince1983]

USD is not a good program right now and you like to constantly point that out. I am sure you are frustrated that NDSU AND SDSU have blown by your program. Your FB program's best days are behind you.

NDSU AND SDSU regularly take your recruits and even USD got one of your commitments to decommit and go to USD this past year.

USD will finish in the top 3 of the MVFC before UNI wins it outright. Neither will happen anytime soon though.

SDSU has not surpassed UNI and that my friend is a fact.

And last night was a disappointing night to say the least for the MVFC. Really hope the teams can bounce back. On the bright side I did not expect WIU to come out like they did. It may have just been Hampton, but that is a team they would have struggled with in the past so hopefully they are headed in the right direction.

[Bisonator]

USD is not a good program right now and you like to constantly point that out. I am sure you are frustrated that NDSU AND SDSU have blown by your program. Your FB program's best days are behind you.

NDSU AND SDSU regularly take your recruits and even USD got one of your commitments to decommit and go to USD this past year.

USD will finish in the top 3 of the MVFC before UNI wins it outright. Neither will happen anytime soon though.xlolx

xpopcornx

[Daved]

Serious question...and I know coming from me it will be douchey.


What the **** happened over in Ohio? 12 months ago the listening to the fan base it was YSU is going to win the next 4 titles at least. Wolford is the best coach in the nation, brining in SEC talent. Blah blah blah.

It's like the entire program the last decade has been built around trying to beat UNI and now that it happened **** is all over and falling apart...again...Sometimes on-paper talent differs from on-field talent---also recall somebody boasting about getting recruits from Florida--something YSU has been doing for the last 25 years anyway.

[Daved]

Idk about hess, but I have seen Wolford lose games for YSU that were all but wrapped up with horrendous play calling/clock management.So have I--Doubt that Hess will look this bad consistently--I expected him to tear up this team from his hometown of Dayton.

[ST_Lawson]

On the bright side I did not expect WIU to come out like they did. It may have just been Hampton, but that is a team they would have struggled with in the past so hopefully they are headed in the right direction.

Indeed. There's still a LOT of work to do, but there's definitely some signs of progress. One of our local media guys did a great summary of the "feel" of the team this year: Leathernecks’ cool is the new way (http://www3.thehawkeye.com/bohnenkamp_blog/?p=2207). Essentially, there was good, there was some good stuff, some mediocre stuff, and definitely some bad stuff...but the big change is that the bad stuff didn't cause full-on "blowups". A mistake would be made, but then they'd recover and get back to what they know. Last year we started the season with a pretty mediocre FCS team as well (Butler), but whereas last year, we got a bit of a lead, but then kinda blew up and let them get back in the game (eventually winning 23-15), this year, we got a bit of a lead, and kept the pressure on the whole game, rolling out 23 points in the second half alone, while only allowing Hampton a FG.

Like last year, our second game is against a Div. II opponent (this year, Quincy University, last year, U of Indianapolis) before heading out for our money game (s) (this year, Minnesota and UNLV; last year was Iowa State).

[Houndawg]

Disagree. UNI has a good team this year and will be even more of a force with Kollmorgen the following two years.

On paper they should be great this year. Maybe this is the year they get monkey off their back..

[clenz]

On paper they should be great this year. Maybe this is the year they get monkey off their back..
What's great is next year should be even better...

Look at our 2 deep for this week:
22 starters and only 5 are seniors
50 names on the depth charge - only 9 seniors

Looking at the QB, RB, FB, WR, TE on the entire roster, there are only two seniors. One of them is a fullback. We almost never use fullbacks. The other is a WR with 44 career receiving yards.

You could say "Well, they are clearly too young then". That would be true if we didn't play so many freshman/sophomores last season

[mmiller_34]

Well, Mo State really took a **** last night..