Where's the DAYTON Fan's at?

[ysubigred]

Year after year YSU's been hearing "IF" Dayton had a shot at YSU we would not like the outcome xasswhipx WELL!! any bold statements you all want to make now that it's a reality in about 7 day's xconfusedx

Good luck and let the best team win, also a healthy game for the conference slate ahead xthumbsupx

[crusader11]

Does Dayton Flyer still post?

[ysubigred]

Does Dayton Flyer still post?

xdontknowx Come to think of it I have not seen him in a while. I hope so. I want to hear his thoughts on this game before and after. xbopx

[Silenoz]

They sucked the last two years so he/they disappeared. Kind of like the Weber fans circa-2008/2009 xcoffeex


...or maybe he's still smarting from this
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=322452287

[ysubigred]

They sucked the last two years so he/they disappeared. Kind of like the Weber fans circa-2008/2009 xcoffeex


...or maybe he's still smarting from this
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=322452287

LOL!! I remember that game. Before kickoff Dayton was the self proclaimed MVFC champs xblahx

[Laker]

Does Dayton Flyer still post?

He is quiet now that the Gustave Whitehead story came out. ;)

[DetroitFlyer]

9-0, soon to be 10-0. Both teams picked by the coaches to finish 5th in their conferences. I will be there at YSU to see the game. Looking forward to seeing the Flyers first game. Just like any other road game, play mistake free football and we can win. Really looking forward to the FCS Championship of Ohio. Dayton has a hugh question mark at QB. If we play like last year, could be a challenging game. At least we have two viable options this season. Pretty solid everywhere else. Place kicking could also be interesting. Can't wait!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Youngstown wins this game by 30 + points.

[ysubigred]

9-0, soon to be 10-0. Both teams picked by the coaches to finish 5th in their conferences. I will be there at YSU to see the game. Looking forward to seeing the Flyers first game. Just like any other road game, play mistake free football and we can win. Really looking forward to the FCS Championship of Ohio. Dayton has a hugh question mark at QB. If we play like last year, could be a challenging game. At least we have two viable options this season. Pretty solid everywhere else. Place kicking could also be interesting. Can't wait!

xchinscratchx So you're saying... come the 4th QTR YSU better have the 1st team still on the field? I hope not but with our coach you never know what Penguin team will show up xcrazyx

[ysubigred]

YIKES!! The experts has spoken xeekx

From College Sports Madness:


Dayton at #23 Youngstown State, Thursday, 7:30

A battle of two lesser-known Ohio football teams concludes the Thursday schedule, but Youngstown State is no lightweight team. Youngstown State went 7-4 last year and split its MVFC schedule equally at 4-4. Youngstown State has lost nine straight matches to Dayton, so the team is hungry to make sure the 10th loss in a row does not take place. Dayton competes in the Pioneer League for football and there the Flyers went 5-3 (6-5 overall). Will the 10th time be the charm?

Projected Score: Dayton 27, Youngstown State 20

[PantherRob82]

When was the last time these teams played? YSU by 35+. xthumbsupx

[ysubigred]

When was the last time these teams played? YSU by 35+. xthumbsupx

1977 :o

YSU-Dayton History
The Penguins will be looking to snap a nine-game losing skid in the all-time series against the Flyers that started in the program's second year of existence.
Only three of the nine previous meetings have been played in Youngstown - 1939, 1951 and 1977 (this will be the third different stadium).
Of the nine contests, four have been decided by a touchdown or less.
Dayton has scored 22-or-more points in six of the nine meetings while YSU has scored 20-plus points in just two games. The Guins have never scored more than 27 points in the series.

[DetroitFlyer]

YIKES!! The experts has spoken xeekx

From College Sports Madness:


Dayton at #23 Youngstown State, Thursday, 7:30

A battle of two lesser-known Ohio football teams concludes the Thursday schedule, but Youngstown State is no lightweight team. Youngstown State went 7-4 last year and split its MVFC schedule equally at 4-4. Youngstown State has lost nine straight matches to Dayton, so the team is hungry to make sure the 10th loss in a row does not take place. Dayton competes in the Pioneer League for football and there the Flyers went 5-3 (6-5 overall). Will the 10th time be the charm?

Projected Score: Dayton 27, Youngstown State 20

Sounds good to me!

[ysubigred]

Sounds good to me!

Not so fast my young Flyers fan xhypedx

Sagarin has YSU a 25 point favorite

Massey projects a 37-7 YSU win (he has YSU as #8 in FCS, but #5 in the Valley. He clearly likes the Valley.

Dunkle Index has YSU as 27 1/2 point favorite.

[PantherRob82]

Who GAF what the series record is if the last game was played that long ago? Pioneer League will get waxed again.

[clenz]

Who GAF what the series record is if the last game was played that long ago? Pioneer League will get waxed again.

Much like the UNI Drake game

quando omni flunkus moritati

[DetroitFlyer]

How about the Drake at ISU game? Remember the final score of that one? August 30, 2007....

[PantherRob82]

How about the Drake at ISU game? Remember the final score of that one? August 30, 2007....
From 2009:

"Statistically, since 2002 the Pioneer League is 7-25 against teams from auto bid conferences. They were outscored in these games by a total of 1132-486. In the 7 games that they won, their opponents combined for a record of 18-54, although one of those wins was against a 2007 Fordham team that won the Patriot League and lost in the first round to Massachusetts. There are two teams, Butler and Campbell, that did not play teams from automatic bid conferences during this period. The other issue that makes the Pioneer League appear to be weak is the losses to sub D-I opponents. The 10 teams in the league have combined for 53 losses to sub D-I opponents since 2002."

Can't have changed much. Maybe a little since NEC is an autobid conference now.

[PantherRob82]

How about the Drake at ISU game? Remember the final score of that one? August 30, 2007....

Also, 27-24, ISU finished 4-7. 3 weeks later UNI beat them in Des Moines 45-7.

[penguinpower]

Damn-you are a plethora of information @ pantherrob82

[clenz]

I want to play this game....


Give me some time.

[clenz]

The Pioneer (as membership currently sits) vs. other FCS conferences (as membership currently sits)


Follow the lines to see results for each team/game.





Conference

Win
Loss
Tie
Pct.
PF
PA
Delta



Big Sky Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=20)


17


27


1

0.38889
998
1159
-161



Big South Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=21)


53


76


5

0.41418
2005
2535
-530



Colonial Athletic Association (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=9)


30


59


3

0.34239
1356
2113
-757



Ivy League (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=87)


2


24


0

0.07692
296
754
-458



Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=114)


3


4


0

0.42857
134
119
15



Missouri Valley Football Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=59)


140


111


5

0.55664
5309
4830
479



Northeast Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=144)


78


66


1

0.54138
3293
3309
-16



Ohio Valley Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=151)


114


179


6

0.39130
5033
6340
-1307



Patriot League (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=160)


27


99


0

0.21429
1805
3489
-1684



Southern Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=180)


92


120


7

0.43607
3583
4411
-828



Southland Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=183)


4


4


0

0.50000
167
203
-36

[clenz]

It's going to take a lot more time to break it down further than that. I've done some looking. It isn't pretty.

The MVFC looks good...until you dig into the years the games happened.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

NDSU is 4-0. They have Valpo beating us....xlolx

[clenz]

I took the time to check UNI vs the PFL since our record is poor


0-1 against Dayton - the loss was in 1948.
20-25-1 against Drake...will be 21-25-1 in a couple weeks. The last win for Drake vs UNI was 1985. Since then UNI is 3-0 by an average score of 49-10...52-17, 48-7, 45-7 and this year game will likely be about 50-7

Drake started the series 13-3-1 in the first 17 games (through 1953) Since then UNI is 17-12-0
UNI is 11-5 since 1968 against Drake
UNI is 8-3 since 1973 against Drake



I really want to do this for more teams.

Maybe I'll only go back to 1985 since that is when the MVFC was actually formed.

[clenz]

Illinois State vs PFL






Team

Win
Loss
Tie
Pct.
PF
PA
Delta



Butler (IN) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/illinois_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=446&confid=163&restrictions=none)


1
(1949)


0
(N/A)


0
(N/A)

1.00000
14
0
14



Dayton (OH) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/illinois_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=873&confid=163&restrictions=none)


1
(2012)


0
(N/A)


0
(N/A)

1.00000
56
14
42



Drake (IA) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/illinois_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=963&confid=163&restrictions=none)


5
(1983, 84, 85, 03, 05)


3
(81, 82, 2007)


0
(N/A)

0.62500
226
134
92



Morehead St. (KY) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/illinois_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=2109&confid=163&restrictions=none)


2
(72, 11)


1
(71)


0
(N/A)

0.66667
84
49
35



Valparaiso (IN) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/illinois_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=3361&confid=163&restrictions=none)


1
(48)


2
(33, 34)


0

0.33333
16
55
-39








Totals

10
6
0
0.62500
396
252
144






5 games since MVFC was formed - ISU is 4-1

[clenz]

Indiana State





Butler (IN) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/indiana_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=446&confid=163&restrictions=none)

8

25

2
0.25714
547
927
-380



Dayton (OH) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/indiana_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=873&confid=163&restrictions=none)

1

1

0
0.50000
70
34
36



Drake (IA) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/indiana_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=963&confid=163&restrictions=none)

9

2

0
0.81818
225
128
97



Valparaiso (IN) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/indiana_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=3361&confid=163&restrictions=none)

12

20

1
0.37879
411
585
-174








Totals
30
48
3
0.38889
1253
1674
-421




Butler
Last time Butler beat Indian State 1971
Indiana State won 9 of last 10 all by 3 scores plus.

Dayton
Split the series in 1975 and 76...still outscored them by 36

Drake
Last loss to Drake was 1981

Valpo
Last loss to Valpo was 1961

[clenz]

Missouri State vs PFL




Drake (IA) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/missouri_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=963&confid=163&restrictions=none)

6

1

0
0.85714
185
117
68




Last loss to Drake was 1965

[clenz]

South Dakota vs PFL




Drake (IA) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/south_dakota/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=963&confid=163&restrictions=none)

6

11

0
0.35294
324
472
-148



Valparaiso (IN) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/south_dakota/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=3361&confid=163&restrictions=none)

0

1

0
0.00000
0
12
-12





Last loss to Drake was 1971
Only played twice since then, both won by USD 1972 and a transitioning 2009 team

[clenz]

South Dakota State vs PFL






Dayton (OH) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/south_dakota_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=873&confid=163&restrictions=none)

0

1

0
0.00000
14
28
-14



Drake (IA) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/south_dakota_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=963&confid=163&restrictions=none)

2

8

0
0.20000
111
275
-164



Valparaiso (IN) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/south_dakota_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=3361&confid=163&restrictions=none)

1

0

0
1.00000
69
6
63








Totals
3
9
0
0.25000
194
309
-115



Dayton game took place in 1973
No games against Drake as D1. Last loss to Drake was 1969
Valpo was 2005

[clenz]

Southern Illinois vs PFL





Dayton (OH) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/southern_illinois/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=873&confid=163&restrictions=none)

3

2

1
0.58333
126
110
16



Drake (IA) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/southern_illinois/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=963&confid=163&restrictions=none)

11

13

0
0.45833
488
530
-42








Totals
14
15
1
0.48333
614
640
-26




Haven't played since SIU beat Dayton in 1974. Last loss to Dayton was 1973.
Last loss to Drake was 1985. Only played once since then - 2000 and SIU won by 12

[clenz]

WIU vs PFL






Butler (IN) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/western_illinois/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=446&confid=163&restrictions=none)

1

0

0
1.00000
23
15
8



Drake (IA) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/western_illinois/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=963&confid=163&restrictions=none)

6

5

0
0.54545
233
239
-6



Jacksonville (FL) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/western_illinois/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=1558&confid=163&restrictions=none)

1

0

0
1.00000
35
21
14



Morehead St. (KY) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/western_illinois/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=2109&confid=163&restrictions=none)

1

0

0
1.00000
31
6
25



Valparaiso (IN) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/western_illinois/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=3361&confid=163&restrictions=none)

1

0

0
1.00000
45
0
45








Totals
10
5
0
0.66667
367
281
86



Bulter game was 2012
Last loss to Drake was 1982 - WIU won 4 in a row with an average score of 40-10 with the last game being 64-7
Jacksonville was 2011
MSU was 2006
Valpo was 2010

[clenz]

YSU vs PFL - the one that Dayton fans like to brag about






Butler (IN) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/youngstown_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=446&confid=163&restrictions=none)

1

0

0
1.00000
31
7
24



Dayton (OH) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/youngstown_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=873&confid=163&restrictions=none)

0

9

0
0.00000
102
231
-129



Morehead St. (KY) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/youngstown_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=2109&confid=163&restrictions=none)

8

6

0
0.57143
347
258
89



Valparaiso (IN) (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/missourivalley/youngstown_state/vs_conf_opponents_records.php?teamid=3361&confid=163&restrictions=none)

2

0

0
1.00000
136
13
123








Totals
11
15
0
0.42308
616
509
107





Butler was 2010
Dayon - has not played since 1977. Since then YSU has 3* national titles...Dayton played D3 until 1993
Last loss to MSU was 1986
Valpo games were 2011 and 2012

[gotts]

Simple analysis for the YSU/Dayton game... or should I say advice for Dayton:

http://troll.me/images/bert/prepare-your-anus.jpg

[skinny_uncle]

YSU started last season by beating Pitt. I doubt they are too worried about Dayton.

[PantherRob82]

Damn-you are a plethora of information @ pantherrob82

I wrote an article about the Pioneer League when they wanted an auto-bid in 2009.

[Twentysix]

NDSU is 4-0. They have Valpo beating us....xlolx

The score is off by 2 also, they valpo winning 54-0. The game was actually 52-0 NDSU winning.

[cmaxwellgsu]

The Pioneer (as membership currently sits) vs. other FCS conferences (as membership currently sits)


Follow the lines to see results for each team/game.






Conference

Win

Loss

Tie

Pct.

PF

PA

Delta





Big Sky Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=20)



17



27



1

0.38889

998

1159

-161





Big South Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=21)



53



76



5

0.41418

2005

2535

-530





Colonial Athletic Association (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=9)



30



59



3

0.34239

1356

2113

-757





Ivy League (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=87)



2



24



0

0.07692

296

754

-458





Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=114)



3



4



0

0.42857

134

119

15





Missouri Valley Football Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=59)



140



111



5

0.55664

5309

4830

479





Northeast Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=144)



78



66



1

0.54138

3293

3309

-16





Ohio Valley Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=151)



114



179



6

0.39130

5033

6340

-1307





Patriot League (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=160)



27



99



0

0.21429

1805

3489

-1684





Southern Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=180)



92



120



7

0.43607

3583

4411

-828





Southland Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=183)



4



4



0

0.50000

167

203

-36





Was surprised by the SoCon record, but it looks like Davidson has feasted on Elon and Wofford (accounting for half the wins and only 23 of the losses.) Damn Elon, y'all are Davidson's whipping boy!

[Dog Bone]

Sounds good to me!

Good Luck... Flyer we will be pulling for you..until we meet!

[DetroitFlyer]

Hats off to YSU. Simply made more plays than the Flyers. Excellent running game and great kickers. IF Dayton had a better QB and receivers that could make a tough catch, we could have pulled it out. Nice stadium in Youngstown as well. Hope this gets to be a regular series. Oh by the way, YSU's starters played the entire game....

[PantherRob82]

Hats off to YSU. Simply made more plays than the Flyers. Excellent running game and great kickers. IF Dayton had a better QB and receivers that could make a tough catch, we could have pulled it out. Nice stadium in Youngstown as well. Hope this gets to be a regular series. Oh by the way, YSU's starters played the entire game....

Dayton hung in better than expected. Makes me wonder about YSU for this year. If you had better, coaches, players, facilities, and scholarship you could have pulled it out. xbabycryx

[ysubigred]

Hats off to YSU. Simply made more plays than the Flyers. Excellent running game and great kickers. IF Dayton had a better QB and receivers that could make a tough catch, we could have pulled it out. Nice stadium in Youngstown as well. Hope this gets to be a regular series. Oh by the way, YSU's starters played the entire game....

My hat's off to Dayton. Your team played like they had a chip on their shoulder. I have gained a little more respect for your programxthumbsupx YSU has issues to iron out there's no doubt. Having Morehead next week will not give us any indication where we are for Valley play. Good luck to Dayton and I hope this becomes a series also.

[Paladin1aa]

As usual, Flyer fans try to B.S. their way around. YSU did NOT play their starters all the way. They rotated players in all night on both sides of the ball. QB is the only position they did not sub for and he had a horrible night throwing 2 INT, over throwing open receivers even with little pressure on him. Maybe the worst game of his career. They played 3 deep at RB, DBs, two of the OL positions and at least two deep everywhere else. Many true Frosh were on the field last night. Actually Dayton played a good game for a weenie conference league like the Pioneer. YSU did NOT play well because they pulled so many starters out to sub for playing and development time for the youngsters. And the crowd was small and quiet ( just over 12k).

[URMite]

The Pioneer (as membership currently sits) vs. other FCS conferences (as membership currently sits)


Follow the lines to see results for each team/game.






Conference

Win

Loss

Tie

Pct.

PF

PA

Delta





Big Sky Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=20)



17



27



1

0.38889

998

1159

-161





Big South Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=21)



53



76



5

0.41418

2005

2535

-530





Colonial Athletic Association (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=9)



30



59



3

0.34239

1356

2113

-757





Ivy League (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=87)



2



24



0

0.07692

296

754

-458





Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=114)



3



4



0

0.42857

134

119

15





Missouri Valley Football Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=59)



140



111



5

0.55664

5309

4830

479





Northeast Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=144)



78



66



1

0.54138

3293

3309

-16





Ohio Valley Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=151)



114



179



6

0.39130

5033

6340

-1307





Patriot League (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=160)



27



99



0

0.21429

1805

3489

-1684





Southern Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=180)



92



120



7

0.43607

3583

4411

-828





Southland Conference (http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/pioneer/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=183)



4



4



0

0.50000

167

203

-36





Looking at PFL vs everybody, Davidson being 14-6 vs South Carolina seemed odd. Even if the series did end...more than 75 years ago

[Twentysix]

NDSU is 4-0. They have Valpo beating us....xlolx

Correction, after further investigation NDSU is 1-3 vs the pioneer.

With the only win coming from Valpo in 2004. Drake and Dayton beat our asses a few times in the 50's and 60's. It appears we were unable to even score a touchdown.

[DetroitFlyer]

Yeah.... Dayton did not sub all night.... The same 22 players played every down ..Dayton had as many if not more subs than YSU. YSU's defense was gassed and cramping up by games end. Care to try again?

[penguinpower]

Yeah.... Dayton did not sub all night.... The same 22 players played every down ..Dayton had as many if not more subs than YSU. YSU's defense was gassed and cramping up by games end. Care to try again?

Dayton has a nice team and they are coached well. The Penguins were playing undisciplined football. YSU's rb admitted that the team lost focus during the game (really bad problem and a symptom of Wolford teams thus far). I like how the Dayton team plays, but they were physically mismatched in every area. If they played 10 times YSU would win 10 times.

[Paladin1aa]

I believe someone said YSU left their 1st team in all the way. Horsepucky !

Someone got smacked down as they should. When you lose, keep your mouth shut.

[DetroitFlyer]

Here is an idea... Win your conference. We will as well. Then we can find out if you can beat us again in the playoffs. Many YSU and AGS folks have been spouting off that the Flyers did not belong on the same field as YSU. That is the real horsepucky here. YSU was one or two plays away from going down. I like the Flyers chances if we get another shot at YSU.

[DoubleE]

I will say the defense looked the best they have looked since heackock was the coach which is a great sign. dont know what was wrong with hess though..... very concerning when a 4th year starting QB plays so poorly