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AppGuy04
September 13th, 2006, 10:29 AM
Derek Jeter batted in each of the first four innings without getting an official at-bat: He had three walks and was hit by a pitch. He didn't bat again, and his career-high 21-game hitting streak remained intact under baseball's rules.

goasu984Life
September 13th, 2006, 10:37 AM
I saw that last night and I didn't get it either, until you think about it. He never had an official at bat, so I guess the streak is still intact.

89Hen
September 13th, 2006, 11:02 AM
Derek Jeter batted in each of the first four innings without getting an official at-bat: He had three walks and was hit by a pitch. He didn't bat again, and his career-high 21-game hitting streak remained intact under baseball's rules.
Sounds right. I mean if a team wanted to F a guy on his streak, just intentionally walk him all night.

AppGuy04
September 13th, 2006, 11:10 AM
I'm not saying its a bad rule, just didn't know it was an actual rule.

GannonFan
September 13th, 2006, 11:45 AM
Good rule in my book - and yeah, it makes sense - no official at bat means effectively that you didn't bat (sounds obvious) - kinda like if you missed a game and then game back the next game.

goasu984Life
September 13th, 2006, 11:47 AM
I guess if Jimmy Rollins can keep his streak over the offseason, it makes sense for Jeter to keep his after getting walked and HBP. Neither of them had an official at bat.

AppGuy04
September 13th, 2006, 11:53 AM
OK, so if you had no official at bats, would a games played streak continue? I would think yes if you were a position player, but what about a DH?

goasu984Life
September 13th, 2006, 01:06 PM
That's a good question. I don't know what would happen with the DH. What happens during interleague play where there is no DH. Would a games-played streak end if there is no DH and the guy doesn't play?

89Hen
September 13th, 2006, 01:10 PM
OK, so if you had no official at bats, would a games played streak continue? I would think yes if you were a position player, but what about a DH?
Absolutely! You were still a part of the game.

GannonFan
September 13th, 2006, 01:37 PM
I guess if Jimmy Rollins can keep his streak over the offseason, it makes sense for Jeter to keep his after getting walked and HBP. Neither of them had an official at bat.

Well, those are two entirely different scenarios - why wouldn't Rollins keep his streak - heck, he and his team didn't play a single game.

AppGuy04
September 13th, 2006, 02:50 PM
Absolutely! You were still a part of the game.

but if you go 0-0, technically you were never part of the game b/c you never had an "official at bat"

goasu984Life
September 13th, 2006, 03:20 PM
Well, those are two entirely different scenarios - why wouldn't Rollins keep his streak - heck, he and his team didn't play a single game.

Isn't it the same principle, though. I mean, even though it was the offseason, Rollins didn't really have any official at bats, did he? I guess I'm just throwing scenarios out there to see if I can get a better understanding of why Jeter's hit streak is still intact. I'm not knocking Jeter, I just don't get it.

89Hen
September 13th, 2006, 03:32 PM
but if you go 0-0, technically you were never part of the game b/c you never had an "official at bat"
You can be the DH and go 0-0 and have 4 RBI in a game all with different things happening. With the bases loaded you could be walked, then hit by a pitch, then had catcher interference and finally been obstructed on the way to first base. You would be 0-0 with 4 RBI, certainly worthy of having played the game. :D

CollegeSportsInfo
September 13th, 2006, 04:07 PM
Well, those are two entirely different scenarios - why wouldn't Rollins keep his streak - heck, he and his team didn't play a single game.
The issue with Rollins was the Joey D. "single season" hitting streak versus what Rollins had going.

ISUMatt
September 13th, 2006, 05:41 PM
Yea that rule about having an official at-bat protects against intentionally walking a guy every at bat so a long hitting streak stays in tact

AppGuy04
September 13th, 2006, 05:44 PM
You can be the DH and go 0-0 and have 4 RBI in a game all with different things happening. With the bases loaded you could be walked, then hit by a pitch, then had catcher interference and finally been obstructed on the way to first base. You would be 0-0 with 4 RBI, certainly worthy of having played the game. :D

true, never thought about that

ironically, a sacrifice bunt counts as a streak continuing, but not a sacrifice fly

kardplayer
September 13th, 2006, 06:36 PM
Games played streak uses plate appearances (which includes walks, HBP's, etc.)

If you really wanted to bust up a hitting streak, get the guy out the first time and intentionally walk him the rest of the time. He'd have the official AB, so the streak would be over.

CollegeSportsInfo
September 13th, 2006, 07:28 PM
Jeter just got a hit.

NoCoDanny
September 14th, 2006, 03:39 PM
Yeah but if you walked or were hit by a pitch you registered a plate appearance and therefore participated in the game therefore the streak should be over in my opinion.

AZGrizFan
September 14th, 2006, 06:30 PM
Derek Jeter batted in each of the first four innings without getting an official at-bat: He had three walks and was hit by a pitch. He didn't bat again, and his career-high 21-game hitting streak remained intact under baseball's rules.

I can see it already: If his streak starts approaching 40 like Rollins did, they'll be talking about the "Jeter Asterisk".... : smh : : smh : : smh : : smh : : smh : : smh :