Top WR group in the nation?

[geaux_sioux]

The last couple years EWU has been the team with the best group of WRs in the nation. With the loss of their three top targets from last season who is the new team with the top group of WRs?

[Nickels]

SHSU may not have the absolute best but it certainly has some talent.

Torrance Williams will be healthy, he was critical for our run in 2011 but was injured most of last season. Richard Sincere is considered a wide receiver and has racked up tons of yards the last few years (2,800 AP yards and 24 TDs). Chance Nelson had a great 1st year at Sam snagging 9 TDs & 19.2 AVG, he still has 3 years of eligibility left.

Sam also picked up CU receiver Gerald Thomas this off-season. He played in all 12 CU games as a true freshman last year.

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

Richmond's WR Corps is easily one of the best in the country.

Ben Edwards led the CAA in receptions with 80 last year.

Stephen Barnette is our big play target with over 50 receptions and 800 yards lady year.

Shane Savage is a Cornell transfer and caught 65 balls for over 1000 yards in 2011.

Rashad Ponder and Reggie Digg ain't chopped liver either.

[Saint3333]

App has three guys that will be in NFL camps one day at a minimum.

Price, Peacock, Washington, Jones - I doubt another team has four WRs as good as these guys.

[appvette]

I would have a hard time believing any team other than App State. Arguably the best WR in the nation along with 2 other top 10 receivers and great depth behind them.

[mountaineer in Cane Land]

yep, App has alot of question marks going into the season, fortunately, wide receiver isn't one of them, go 6 maybe 7 deep

[Apphole]

App. Not even close. We have a better starting corps than most BCS teams this year.

[HappyAppy]

I agree, App has the best group of WR and its not close

Tacoi Summler was a top 70 recruit, got a scholarship to Oregon, and was clocked at a sub 4.3 40 in HS. If he is lucky he will be our 5th receiver this year.

[Grizalltheway]

I agree, App has the best group of WR and its not close

Tacoi Summler was a top 70 recruit, got a scholarship to Oregon, and was clocked at a sub 4.3 40 in HS. If he is lucky he will be our 5th receiver this year.

Yikes. Sounds like they're going to have a field day against our secondary. xsmhxxsmhx

[GlassOnion]

Size, speed, hands, depth and experience, App has it all. Got the guy to get it to them too.

[mvemjsunpx]

Yikes. Sounds like they're going to have a field day against our secondary. xsmhxxsmhx

Someone has to get them the ball somehow, first. Their gold & black teams combined to allow 17 sacks in their spring game.

[cmaxwellgsu]

We'll never enter this conversation. I'll have to give it to the Apps.

[mountaineer in Cane Land]

the 17 sacks are alittle misleading, most of the starting OL didn't play, or had very limited action, and the qbs were not allowed to be tackled, so, they played touch football with them, touch them they were down. Kinda funny watching the game, multiple times the qb on both squads would have a huge lane to run, in a game probably would have been a 10-15 yd gain, but, a defensive lineman would stick his hand out as the qb went by, barely touch him, and the play was stopped, recorded sack.

[Twentysix]

This is typical of spring games.

[AppMan]

I agree, App has the best group of WR and its not close

Tacoi Summler was a top 70 recruit, got a scholarship to Oregon, and was clocked at a sub 4.3 40 in HS. If he is lucky he will be our 5th receiver this year.

To be fair, Summler has experienced knee problems and I'm hearing they aren't over yet. Surgery in the off season didn't completely correct the problem and it looks as though he may have to go under the knife again. Still, I agree App has the best FCS WR group in the country and one of the best in all of college football.

[SFA 93]

SFA returns 2 of the top WRs in the conference

WR:#9 DJ Ward 6-0 178 Jr. (2nd Team) All-SLC

- 2013 CFPA Award Watch List
- Lead all receivers in SLC play (7 games) receptions (47)
- #2 in YDS per game (80)
- #8 in all purpose YDS (630)

WR:#2 Mike Brooks 5-9 175 Sr. (Honorable Mention) All-SLC

- #3 in receptions in SLC play (7 games) receptions (38)

WR:#81 Aaron Thomas 6-0 192 So.

- #9 in receptions in SLC play (7 games) receptions (26)

Also...
WR:#1 Tyler Boyd 5-10 180 Jr.
WR:#4 Marquis Mosley 6-4 202 Jr.

Some new recruits...

WR:#87 Aaron Doddy 6-4 190 Fr.
WR:#80 De'Quann Ruffin 6-2 185 Fr.
WR:#88 Justice Liggins 6-1 195 Fr.

[SpeedkingATL]

Yikes. Sounds like they're going to have a field day against our secondary. xsmhxxsmhx

This years game will likely be a lot like last year with both offenses running up and down the field. Just glad that bowling ball of a running back (Moore) won't be there this year, but your QB play will certainly be better to offset that.

[AppMan]

Someone has to get them the ball somehow, first. Their gold & black teams combined to allow 17 sacks in their spring game.

App split its squad instead of going 1's vs 1's and a few on the OL 2 deep didn't play. Since going to the 3-4 App's defensive front 3 is deep and talented. They made mince meat of those o-line's made up of mostly freshmen, walk-on's and a guy who hasn't played football in 3 years.

[GlassOnion]

This years game will likely be a lot like last year with both offenses running up and down the field. Just glad that bowling ball of a running back (Moore) won't be there this year, but your QB play will certainly be better to offset that.

I surely hope not, that's why we hired Woody. As long as we don't lose a handful of starters in the Spring, I believe he'll have things much improved. We're as strong and deep on the DL and DB as we've been in a while. Deuce Rob alone should make a big difference with the pass rush.

[BEAR]

I think the Bears have a pretty stout receiving corp even with losing Croom and Grandy.

A couple of FBS transfers and Dez Lewis will light up the SLC this year.

[darell1976]

The last couple years EWU has been the team with the best group of WRs in the nation. With the loss of their three top targets from last season who is the new team with the top group of WRs?

UND has a good group but I am not sure if they are the best "bunch" in the nation. They do have Hardin, and Jackson (top 10 in receptions last season in the BSC) back along with Kenny Golladay so its a good trio. BUT they don't have a stud QB like Braden Hanson throwing to them instead it will be redshirt freshman Joe Mollberg, or redshirt freshman Ryan Bartels so their numbers may be affected by that, but on the other hand we could see what these receivers can do with a different QB.

Greg Hardin 65 rec 1145 yds 14 TD
Jameer Jackson 55 rec 705 yds 6 TD
Kenny Golladay 30 rec 429 yds 1 TD

Good numbers last season, but I am not ready on saying UND has the best in the nation.

[blueballs]

Granted the SoCon is a running conference but App had the best group I saw last year (mainly because of Price) and that includes ODU and UCA, which both had good passing attacks.

For poops and giggles, could you imagine Heineke throwing to App's receivers???????????

[ASUMountaineer]

the 17 sacks are alittle misleading, most of the starting OL didn't play, or had very limited action, and the qbs were not allowed to be tackled, so, they played touch football with them, touch them they were down. Kinda funny watching the game, multiple times the qb on both squads would have a huge lane to run, in a game probably would have been a 10-15 yd gain, but, a defensive lineman would stick his hand out as the qb went by, barely touch him, and the play was stopped, recorded sack.

Not to mention that JL-J didn't participate.

[GlassOnion]

Granted the SoCon is a running conference but App had the best group I saw last year (mainly because of Price) and that includes ODU and UCA, which both had good passing attacks.

For poops and giggles, could you imagine Heineke throwing to App's receivers???????????

That would be insane. I do think though, that with App breaking in a starting RB, and the whole OL returning, and Jackson healthy, the passing game will really explode in 2013. I think Steven Miller was really under-rated, but with nearly 1400 yards, 5.7 ypc, he really balanced out the offense. I imagine Satterfield will take to the air a bit more.

And Price, clearly the best WR and naturally gifted, but Peacock and Washington were very good last year, the ECU game included. Ripping balls out of DBs hands, juking the crud out of them for yards after catch, they're very experienced and physical, and have great speed.

[geaux_sioux]

Any Griz fans on here who made the trip to Boone and Grand Forks last year?

[katstrapper]

SHSU may not have the absolute best but it certainly has some talent.

Torrance Williams will be healthy, he was critical for our run in 2011 but was injured most of last season. Richard Sincere is considered a wide receiver and has racked up tons of yards the last few years (2,800 AP yards and 24 TDs). Chance Nelson had a great 1st year at Sam snagging 9 TDs & 19.2 AVG, he still has 3 years of eligibility left.

Sam also picked up CU receiver Gerald Thomas this off-season. He played in all 12 CU games as a true freshman last year.

Dont forget Brandon Wilkerson , Ricky Smith and Stephen Williams. Wilkerson should move into the spot vacated by Trey Diller on the outside.

[813Jag]

App has three of the top 15 in Phil Steele's position rankings.
http://www.philsteele.com/FCSINFO/Allconf_Allamerican/2013/2013%20Preaseason/2013preseasonpositionrate.html

sidebar: nice to see a couple of our guys on the list

[bjtheflamesfan]

Not to mention that JL-J didn't participate.
Any reason for the change to Londry-Jackson after being Jamal Jackson up til this season?

[ASUMountaineer]

Any reason for the change to Londry-Jackson after being Jamal Jackson up til this season?

Londry is his mother's last name, so he added it to honor her.

http://www.journalnow.com/sports/asu/app_trail/article_819f9828-9ba8-11e2-af2e-0019bb30f31a.html

[geaux_sioux]

App has three of the top 15 in Phil Steele's position rankings.
http://www.philsteele.com/FCSINFO/Allconf_Allamerican/2013/2013%20Preaseason/2013preseasonpositionrate.html

sidebar: nice to see a couple of our guys on the list
That list is a joke and also not complied by Phil Steele.

Simms McElfresh 11 6 86 14.3 0 44 7.8
Really? 6 catches got him on the list?
Tacoi Sumler 6 5 47 9.4 0 13 7.8
5 catches? You're kidding right?
Malachi Jones 12 32 370 11.6 2 48 30.8
Tony Washington 12 39 472 12.1 3 54 39.3

These two weren't on the list?

Jameer Jackson 11-8 56 709 12.7 6 43 64.5
Kenny Golladay 10-5 30 429 14.3 1 60 42.9

Those two were also FR last season.

[blueballs]

That would be insane. I do think though, that with App breaking in a starting RB, and the whole OL returning, and Jackson healthy, the passing game will really explode in 2013. I think Steven Miller was really under-rated, but with nearly 1400 yards, 5.7 ypc, he really balanced out the offense. I imagine Satterfield will take to the air a bit more.

And Price, clearly the best WR and naturally gifted, but Peacock and Washington were very good last year, the ECU game included. Ripping balls out of DBs hands, juking the crud out of them for yards after catch, they're very experienced and physical, and have great speed.

Yep... App really hurt GSU last year throwing underneath to your secondary receivers. Price outmanning the secondary was one thing, but you burned GSU in blitzes with crossing patterns when they dropped back into a zone. Having a safety valve and a back you could iso against DE's and LB's like Miller was a asset too.

[IBleedYellow]

Georgia Southern, every damn time they would throw last year those amazing WRs would have huge completions that almost gave me heart attacks!!!

:D

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[bjtheflamesfan]

That list is a joke and also not complied by Phil Steele.

Simms McElfresh 11 6 86 14.3 0 44 7.8
Really? 6 catches got him on the list?
Tacoi Sumler 6 5 47 9.4 0 13 7.8
5 catches? You're kidding right?
Malachi Jones 12 32 370 11.6 2 48 30.8
Tony Washington 12 39 472 12.1 3 54 39.3

These two weren't on the list?

Jameer Jackson 11-8 56 709 12.7 6 43 64.5
Kenny Golladay 10-5 30 429 14.3 1 60 42.9

Those two were also FR last season.

Youre welcome to disagree but no need to get all butthurt about it

[MplsBison]

Are we really discussing the best WR group?

Sheesh. How about "run the ball!" ?? Maybe you'll win some games...

[Bisonator]

That list is a joke and also not complied by Phil Steele.

Simms McElfresh 11 6 86 14.3 0 44 7.8
Really? 6 catches got him on the list?
Tacoi Sumler 6 5 47 9.4 0 13 7.8
5 catches? You're kidding right?
Malachi Jones 12 32 370 11.6 2 48 30.8
Tony Washington 12 39 472 12.1 3 54 39.3

These two weren't on the list?

Jameer Jackson 11-8 56 709 12.7 6 43 64.5
Kenny Golladay 10-5 30 429 14.3 1 60 42.9

Those two were also FR last season.

Can those 2 play both ways? How about Hardin at LB? xlolx

As many times as UND was in shootouts I'm surprised those numbers are as low as they are! :D

[TheRevSFA]

App. Not even close. We have a better starting corps than most BCS teams this year.

Hubris much?

[UNDColorado]

Haha I was waiting for this thread to blow up. Way too hard to accurately compare who has the best WR corp in pre-season. This may be better debated in January.

Yes, running the ball would be good!

[geaux_sioux]

Youre welcome to disagree but no need to get all butthurt about it

Not really butthurt. Realistic? Yes. Numbers like these don't lie. Butthurt would be getting mad about Hardin not being number one, which I am not.

[geaux_sioux]

Are we really discussing the best WR group?

Sheesh. How about "run the ball!" ?? Maybe you'll win some games...

I was keeping track of how long it would take for this response. You win. I've been on the record since last season as saying we need to run the ball more. 396 to 349 isn't exactly a spray and pray offense like some like to think UND had last season but I would like to see the rushes out number the passes.

[geaux_sioux]

App. Not even close. We have a better starting corps than most BCS teams this year.

If that is the case why did you guys only pass for 260 yards against Montana?

[URMite]

App has three of the top 15 in Phil Steele's position rankings.
http://www.philsteele.com/FCSINFO/Allconf_Allamerican/2013/2013%20Preaseason/2013preseasonpositionrate.html

sidebar: nice to see a couple of our guys on the list

Nice list...

That gives Richmond #10, 12 & 45 plus #28 Tight End.

Now if a good big running back would emerge, I'd feel a lot more confident. xprayx

[GlassOnion]

These two weren't on the list?

Jameer Jackson 11-8 56 709 12.7 6 43 64.5
Kenny Golladay 10-5 30 429 14.3 1 60 42.9

Those two were also FR last season.

Maybe they penalized them for padding stats against the South Dakota School of Mines?? xcoffeex

BTW, the SoCon has 5 of the top 25 pass defenses, the Big Sky's best pass defense team comes in at #44 in the nation.

[Herder]

UND has a good group but I am not sure if they are the best "bunch" in the nation. They do have Hardin, and Jackson (top 10 in receptions last season in the BSC) back along with Kenny Golladay so its a good trio. BUT they don't have a stud QB like Braden Hanson throwing to them instead it will be redshirt freshman Joe Mollberg, or redshirt freshman Ryan Bartels so their numbers may be affected by that, but on the other hand we could see what these receivers can do with a different QB.

Greg Hardin 65 rec 1145 yds 14 TD
Jameer Jackson 55 rec 705 yds 6 TD
Kenny Golladay 30 rec 429 yds 1 TD

Good numbers last season, but I am not ready on saying UND has the best in the nation.


Collectively, UND is at or near the top in FCS. They have it all . . . speed, skill, measureables. Great recruiting in this area the past few years. The QB is the question mark going into 2013, but I think you'll be pleasantly surprised there too. If UND can play D, this group will begin to be recognized.

[UNDColorado]

Collectively, UND is at or near the top in FCS. They have it all . . . speed, skill, measureables. Great recruiting in this area the past few years. The QB is the question mark going into 2013, but I think you'll be pleasantly surprised there too. If UND can play D, this group will begin to be recognized.

That sounds about right, well said. UND has to improve their D this year or it will be a long year.

[darell1976]

That sounds about right, well said. UND has to improve their D this year or it will be a long year.

Also maybe having a top notch receiving crew will give our RFr QB's an extra boost of confidence and make them better players. Just 4 weeks from Thursday!!!!!!!!!

[geaux_sioux]

Maybe they penalized them for padding stats against the Montana, Portland St and San Diego St?? xcoffeex

BTW, the SoCon has 5 of the top 25 pass defenses, the Big Sky's best pass defense team comes in at #44 in the nation.

Fixed your post

Side note: we were 18/20 passing the ball against Mines and ran the ball 48 times. Not exactly padding the WR stats.

[darell1976]

Fixed your post

Side note: we were 18/20 passing the ball against Mines and ran the ball 48 times. Not exactly padding the WR stats.

I think he forgot the 660 yards alone against Montana.

[frozennorth]

app by a mile. UND is top 5 though I think. NDSU also might finally have the depth and health to be considered a top unit. smith, gebhart and vraa are all very good (though not elite individually) when healthy, but 3 good receivers aren't enough to make a top-tier unit. Carey Woods has been reported to be doing well, and hopefully will turn out to be a 4th quality option.

[geaux_sioux]

BTW, the SoCon has 5 of the top 25 pass defenses, the Big Sky's best pass defense team comes in at #44 in the nation.

Is that because the SoCon lacks great WRs? The Big Sky always has a ton of playmakers at WR. I'm not saying the SoCon isn't a good defensive league, but it is not a league with great passing attacks. I'd say the rankings are inflated thanks to playing against option teams and teams that don't pass much or can't pass.

[BEAR]

The south has speed.

The north has size.

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http://the-word-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/worms.jpg

[blueballs]

Is that because the SoCon lacks great WRs? The Big Sky always has a ton of playmakers at WR. I'm not saying the SoCon isn't a good defensive league, but it is not a league with great passing attacks. I'd say the rankings are inflated thanks to playing against option teams and teams that don't pass much or can't pass.

Your point is spot on.

Last year the SoCon had GSU, Citadel, and Wofford all running the option. Furman and Chatty had young QB's, Samford was pretty balanced and WCU was.... well, WCU. App was by far the best passing team in the conference and will be again this year.

The best example of your point was the Wofford/GSU game. GSU won 17-9 despite having zero attempts & zero completions for zero yards in a battle of top 10 teams. The game took just over 2 hours to play. It was the only home game all year where I didn't empty my flask because it was over so fast.

[heath]

Doesn't matter your speed,hands or what you did last year if.............you have a new QB that didn't play much last year. As good as WRs can be,lets not forget,if the player under center struggles so do the WRs,regardless of their talent..xnodx

[MplsBison]

The south has speed.

The north has size.

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A touchdown counts for six points regardless what speed the ball crosses the goal line.

Run them over.

[geaux_sioux]

The south has speed.

The north has size.

Begin.....

http://the-word-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/worms.jpg

San Diego St's head coach was blown away with how fast Greg Hardin was. We've got a nice mixed of breakaway speed and size. So Jameer Jackson weighs between 235-240 lbs. Add in a stronger Kenny Golladay who now runs a 4.4 at 6'4" and that's a nice top three with alot of good players behind them.

[appvette]

That list is a joke and also not complied by Phil Steele.

Simms McElfresh 11 6 86 14.3 0 44 7.8
Really? 6 catches got him on the list?
Tacoi Sumler 6 5 47 9.4 0 13 7.8
5 catches? You're kidding right?
Malachi Jones 12 32 370 11.6 2 48 30.8
Tony Washington 12 39 472 12.1 3 54 39.3

These two weren't on the list?

Jameer Jackson 11-8 56 709 12.7 6 43 64.5
Kenny Golladay 10-5 30 429 14.3 1 60 42.9

Those two were also FR last season.

Hopefully you understand stats aren't everything. Based on your logic, Aaron Rogers sucked for a few years. If you have seen Malachi Jones play, you would know he would be the #1 receiver for many teams next year but he is behind three all Americans.

[BEAR]

hehe

http://cdn.onextrapixel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/hook.jpg

[GoCats23]

UND has a good group but I am not sure if they are the best "bunch" in the nation. They do have Hardin, and Jackson (top 10 in receptions last season in the BSC) back along with Kenny Golladay so its a good trio. BUT they don't have a stud QB like Braden Hanson throwing to them instead it will be redshirt freshman Joe Mollberg, or redshirt freshman Ryan Bartels so their numbers may be affected by that, but on the other hand we could see what these receivers can do with a different QB.

Greg Hardin 65 rec 1145 yds 14 TD
Jameer Jackson 55 rec 705 yds 6 TD
Kenny Golladay 30 rec 429 yds 1 TD

Good numbers last season, but I am not ready on saying UND has the best in the nation.

Hardin only had 1150 all season? Didn't he have 350 yds or something crazy against Montana?

[darell1976]

Hardin only had 1150 all season? Didn't he have 350 yds or something crazy against Montana?

333 vs Montana...a BSC record.

[geaux_sioux]

Hopefully you understand stats aren't everything. Based on your logic, Aaron Rogers sucked for a few years. If you have seen Malachi Jones play, you would know he would be the #1 receiver for many teams next year but he is behind three all Americans.
If I'm not mistaken he is only behind 1 preseason all Americans. Are you saying the other two will be by the end of the season?

[appvette]

Sorry, Price and Washington are preseason all Americans and Peacock is first team all socon.

[BisonFan02]

hehe

http://cdn.onextrapixel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/hook.jpg

The Bison made a few southern teams look pretty slow last postseason.... :D

[geaux_sioux]

Sorry, Price and Washington are preseason all Americans and Peacock is first team all socon.

Who listed Washington? I'm just going off of thesportsnetwork's list.

[DJKyR0]

This entire thread is naught but bait for geaux_sioux to pimp what he views as an NFL-caliber WR corps at UND. He does the same crap on Bisonville under a different name.

[344Johnson]

This entire thread is naught but bait for geaux_sioux to pimp what he views as an NFL-caliber WR corps at UND. He does the same crap on Bisonville under a different name.

Fact. I think he is disappointed that no one has pimped the UND corps. Maybe they are one of the best, I have no idea.

[Vitojr130]

I don't think I've ever seen so many UN_ fans come out of the woodwork at once :D

[darell1976]

I don't think I've ever seen so many UN_ fans come out of the woodwork at once :D

After the way our defense played last year you have to think of the positives. :)

[Bisonator]

After the way our defense played last year you have to think of the positives. :)

xnodx

[ASUMountaineer]

If that is the case why did you guys only pass for 260 yards against Montana?

Because that's all it took to win. xcoffeex