NDSU star LB arrested

[Bisonator]

Didn't the argument start INSIDE the bar? He went outside to fight, not verbally convince the other man of the error in his thought process. Charges dropped or not, as a representative of NDSU that was a poor choice. By taking it outside, he basically DID choose to be attacked by at least one man (don't know if the other guy's story about hitting Beck to stop his attack is true or not). Everyone knows what it means when you take an argument outside and Beck did too, therein being his bad decision and I'd guess Bohl will hold him accountable with a game suspension.

He didn't "take it outside", the bar was closing!

I doubt the city will push the resisting charge. They had no reason to arrest him in the first place.

I would guess he gets a lecture about not putting himself in these situations and that's about it. Reinstated, no further punishment.

[BisonFan02]

As someone who knows what happened.....warned everyone to wait for further info...and is waiting for SE to come back and eat his s*** Sammy....I'm happy. :D

[MplsBison]

Not too many people load up on alcohol at Horbachers, or West Acres.

What does alcohol have to do with it? Nothing of course -- merely a red herring.

Being attacked is being attacked, regardless if your attackers are drunk, you are drunk, both or neither. Stay focused on that aspect, please.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I wonder if he becomes a target in any bar he enters. I am sure the other guy has friends and could try to egg him on, so will Beck restrain himself be either walking away or let his buddies take care of the situation. If he stays in the team ( which I am sure he will) he will have to walk on eggshells.

I'd guess that will part of the talk he will have with Bohl. I am pretty sure that staying out of that line of fire (not being in bars) will certainly be part of the team probationary process.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

As someone who knows what happened.....warned everyone to wait for further info...and is waiting for SE to come back and eat his s*** Sammy....I'm happy. :D

He won't. Don't worry about that.


Watch the smugness as well, it's very MPLS-y

[AmsterBison]

Didn't the argument start INSIDE the bar? He went outside to fight, not verbally convince the other man of the error in his thought process. Charges dropped or not, as a representative of NDSU that was a poor choice. By taking it outside, he basically DID choose to be attacked by at least one man (don't know if the other guy's story about hitting Beck to stop his attack is true or not). Everyone knows what it means when you take an argument outside and Beck did too, therein being his bad decision and I'd guess Bohl will hold him accountable with a game suspension.

Seriously?

You mean, he couldn't have been leaving because the bar was closing? He couldn't have decided to leave a bad situation and some guys chose to follow him?

All we really know is that two guys threw punches at another guy and one of them got knocked out. As soon as I heard it was 2 on 1, I started to suspect that the lone guy was not the aggressor.

[MplsBison]

He didn't "take it outside", the bar was closing!

I doubt the city will push the resisting charge. They had no reason to arrest him in the first place.

I would guess he gets a lecture about not putting himself in these situations and that's about it. Reinstated, no further punishment.

That would be correct.

Hopefully Bohl and the staff have enough sense not to cave into those like we have here in the thread who want punishment for nothing.

[Professor Chaos]

That's your answer...because you couldn't think of a legitimate counter-argument to my excellently posed contention.

I agree that it's probably more likely to happen at 2am downtown, but that doesn't mean you should be suspended for defending yourself, especially when your actions can't be charged with a crime.
As I said, you need common sense to understand my argument. Therefore my argument with you is done since it's clear you don't possess the required equipment.

[MSUBobcat]

Why stop at bars? See my previous post...what's to stop any NDSU player from being attacked at a grocery store, in the mall, at the fair? Heck, at a house party or even on campus??


The idea that a player who is attacked should've chosen not to "put himself in that position" is ridiculous on its face.

xrotatehx Wow!! That's a complete apples-to-oranges comparison. Getting randomly attacked is nowhere near the same as getting into an argument then taking said argument outside. He did "put himself in that position." If Beck DIDN'T know how this was going to progress, I'd like to see his college entrance exams. I know FB players sometimes get a bad rap for not being the sharpest students, but that would be a whole new level of dumb.

[MplsBison]

As I said, you need common sense to understand my argument. Therefore my argument with you is done since it's clear you don't possess the required equipment.

Your argument was that he should be suspended for defending himself against being attacked.

What kind of equipment do you posses, I wonder?

[darell1976]

What does alcohol have to do with it? Nothing of course -- merely a red herring.

Being attacked is being attacked, regardless if your attackers are drunk, you are drunk, both or neither. Stay focused on that aspect, please.

You think beck is going to be walking in the Chip isle at Sun Mart and get attacked? Or attacked at the food court? Most likely it will be at a place that serves booze.

[MplsBison]

xrotatehx Wow!! That's a complete apples-to-oranges comparison. Getting randomly attacked is nowhere near the same as getting into an argument then taking said argument outside. He did "put himself in that position." If Beck DIDN'T know how this was going to progress, I'd like to see his college entrance exams. I know FB players sometimes get a bad rap for not being the sharpest students, but that would be a whole new level of dumb.

As others have already commented, you are wrong. Your assumption that Beck goaded the individuals into meeting him outside for a physical confrontation is wrong.

[MplsBison]

You think beck is going to be walking in the Chip isle at Sun Mart and get attacked? Or attacked at the food court? Most likely it will be at a place that serves booze.

Perhaps it is most likely.

What does that have to do with the right to defend yourself and not be charged with a crime in exercising that right?

[Bisonoline]

Didn't the argument start INSIDE the bar? He went outside to fight, not verbally convince the other man of the error in his thought process. Charges dropped or not, as a representative of NDSU that was a poor choice. By taking it outside, he basically DID choose to be attacked by at least one man (don't know if the other guy's story about hitting Beck to stop his attack is true or not). Everyone knows what it means when you take an argument outside and Beck did too, therein being his bad decision and I'd guess Bohl will hold him accountable with a game suspension.

It was closing time.

[MSUBobcat]

Seriously?

You mean, he couldn't have been leaving because the bar was closing? He couldn't have decided to leave a bad situation and some guys chose to follow him?

All we really know is that two guys threw punches at another guy and one of them got knocked out. As soon as I heard it was 2 on 1, I started to suspect that the lone guy was not the aggressor.

Does anyone have knowledge that it was a 2 on 1? I'm honestly asking. It just seems weird to me that a star LB wouldn't have any friends in tow. Maybe he was out with a lady friend? Also seems weird to me that the one guy got beat up and KO'd and the Havig (sp?) guy didn't get punched from what I understood. I would think in a 2 on 1 focusing on just one attacker would result in more than a fat lip from the other guy. I realize this is speculation and inferences so if someone knows of the exact circumstances, I'd be interested in hearing them.

[Bisonoline]

From BV---FYI this guy is a lawyer.

Boom, I told you guys to wait for the rest of the story. As for the resisting, technically one can resist an illegal arrest (technically, this is a fleeing charge, but Fargo's ordinance calls it resisting). IOW, Travis has a defense if he wants to use it. My guess is that that charge may likely get dismissed or there will be a plea with a deferred imposition disposition.

As for questions about the ... ahem ... "victim" or his friend being charged, I doubt that will happen. The "victim" already got his punishment IMO, so if I were the prosecutor, I would let it go, and let the "victim" walk.

Stay tuned on the resisting charge, there is more to that story as well.

I will also add that I understand the video shows the "victim" going after Travis to get the whole thing started when Travis was trying to walk away from the bar. So there you go ......

And now you know the rest (well most of it) of the story.

[MplsBison]

Nope. Suspend him.

He chose to put himself in that situation of being attacked when he was trying to walk away.

[BisonFan02]

Duplicate....stupid phone.

[Bisonoline]

Here is a circumstance---the guy that got knocked out is 6-6 and 280. Beck is what? 6-0 and 212? Guess who was being the bully? It wasnt Beck.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

As someone who knows what happened.....warned everyone to wait for further info...and is waiting for SE to come back and eat his s*** Sammy....I'm happy. :D

Are you just going to post that over and over until someone congratulates you?

[MplsBison]

Here is a circumstance---the guy that got knocked out is 6-6 and 280. Beck is what? 6-0 and 212? Guess who was being the bully? It wasnt Beck.

The harder they fall.

[MplsBison]

Are you just going to post that over and over until someone congratulates you?

You can probably leave the thread now. Just make sure you prematurely judge at least eight more people on the way out.

[BisonFan02]

Are you just going to post that over and over until someone congratulates you?

Accidental duplicate. My phone sucks.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Accidental duplicate. My phone sucks.

mea culpa.

[344Johnson]

I wonder if he becomes a target in any bar he enters. I am sure the other guy has friends and could try to egg him on, so will Beck restrain himself be either walking away or let his buddies take care of the situation. If he stays in the team ( which I am sure he will) he will have to walk on eggshells.

No. He won't be a target. Would you be interested in going at Beck after he knocks out your 6-6 buddy? I would also think that he goes out with teammates from now on.

[THE HERD]

xrotatehx Wow!! That's a complete apples-to-oranges comparison. Getting randomly attacked is nowhere near the same as getting into an argument then taking said argument outside. He did "put himself in that position." If Beck DIDN'T know how this was going to progress, I'd like to see his college entrance exams. I know FB players sometimes get a bad rap for not being the sharpest students, but that would be a whole new level of dumb.

The bartender told investigators that Beck was minding his business at the end of the bar when the other guy approached him and started the whole thing. So he did not get into or start an argument the guy who got his ass kicked did and he got what he deserved.....plain and simple.

[AmsterBison]

Does anyone have knowledge that it was a 2 on 1? I'm honestly asking. It just seems weird to me that a star LB wouldn't have any friends in tow. Maybe he was out with a lady friend? Also seems weird to me that the one guy got beat up and KO'd and the Havig (sp?) guy didn't get punched from what I understood. I would think in a 2 on 1 focusing on just one attacker would result in more than a fat lip from the other guy. I realize this is speculation and inferences so if someone knows of the exact circumstances, I'd be interested in hearing them.

Just going on the news reports. There was Beck, there was the guy he knocked out, and there was his friend who, according to those news reports, told the police that he punched Beck in an effort to break up the fight.

Maybe you firmly believe that Beck couldn't possibly of been trying to avoid a fight. Maybe you think that this third person was actually trying to break up a fight by throwing punches at Beck. IMO, both of those are a bit of a stretch.

[BisonBacker]

Sorry that people in your conference, and (since you guys are #1 and defending champs) the rest of the FCS nation don't subscribe the to the Fargo Forum.

Earlier in this thread many NDSU posters called out Darrell about being first to post this story. Then darrell does his best to act all innocent about his reasons for posting this. I didn't comment and didn't care but I did know the truth about his motives. Anyway I normally don't frequent his schools message board but after today's news about how the Assault charge was dropped I decided to check them out and what did I find?

darell1976

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Posted Today, 10:40 AM
Congrats NDSU on making the news on ESPN.com!!!!

http://espn.go.com/c...ravated-assault

Old Craig Bohl formula.... Weak FBS team + FCS Cupcakes = National Title

New Craig Bohl formula... football players breaking the law + no suspension = National Title

Odds are Beck somehow gets to play this year even if found guilty.

So there ya go folks Darrells true colors showing as not everyone subscribes to SS.Com. Seriously Darrell Georgia Southern, Wafford, SDSU were all Cupcakes? Why don't you post this crap over here you obviously post it elsewhere?
Now back to the original story. Carry on.

[darell1976]

Earlier in this thread many NDSU posters called out Darrell about being first to post this story. Then darrell does his best to act all innocent about his reasons for posting this. I didn't comment and didn't care but I did know the truth about his motives. Anyway I normally don't frequent his schools message board but after today's news about how the Assault charge was dropped I decided to check them out and what did I find?


So there ya go folks Darrells true colors showing as not everyone subscribes to SS.Com. Seriously Darrell Georgia Southern, Wafford, SDSU were all Cupcakes? Why don't you post this crap over here you obviously post it elsewhere?
Now back to the original story. Carry on.

No but your OOC schedules were cupcakes. Home field does help getting to a national title. As for the rest of the post hey call it as I see it. You know my true colors, and I did start this thread with a question not a smack fest, obviously you missed the boat.

[Bisonoline]

Earlier in this thread many NDSU posters called out Darrell about being first to post this story. Then darrell does his best to act all innocent about his reasons for posting this. I didn't comment and didn't care but I did know the truth about his motives. Anyway I normally don't frequent his schools message board but after today's news about how the Assault charge was dropped I decided to check them out and what did I find?


So there ya go folks Darrells true colors showing as not everyone subscribes to SS.Com. Seriously Darrell Georgia Southern, Wafford, SDSU were all Cupcakes? Why don't you post this crap over here you obviously post it elsewhere?
Now back to the original story. Carry on.

Hope you arent surprised. :D

[BisonBacker]

No but your OOC schedules were cupcakes. Home field does help getting to a national title.

Come on now don't back down from your own posting. You said "Old Craig Bohl formula.... Weak FBS team + FCS Cupcakes = National Title" Nowhere did you say anything about OOC or home field. Come on man up you are being called out on your own objective posting only it was at SS.com or did someone hack your SS.Com account and the objective darrell didn't post that?

[BisonBacker]

Hope you arent surprised. :D
Not in the least.

[MSUBobcat]

Just going on the news reports. There was Beck, there was the guy he knocked out, and there was his friend who, according to those news reports, told the police that he punched Beck in an effort to break up the fight.

Maybe you firmly believe that Beck couldn't possibly of been trying to avoid a fight. Maybe you think that this third person was actually trying to break up a fight by throwing punches at Beck. IMO, both of those are a bit of a stretch.

As I wasn't there, I don't firmly believe anything. I said way back in post 49 that I didn't know the details and didn't want to convict him without trial. However, it's not inconceivable that the 3rd person only joined the fight to stop Beck. Not saying I'm convinced that's how it went down and that's why I asked if anyone KNEW it was 2 on 1. If the guy was as big as has been posted here, I'd think he thought he was more than man enough to fight Beck on even terms, but he found out to the contrary xlolx

[JSUBison]

No charges for Beck, excellent. That's to be expected, as it looks like my check cleared. Fargo PD will have a couple new cruisers thanks to me. :tinfoil

[darell1976]

Come on now don't back down from your own posting. You said "Old Craig Bohl formula.... Weak FBS team + FCS Cupcakes = National Title" Nowhere did you say anything about OOC or home field. Come on man up you are being called out on your own objective posting only it was at SS.com or did someone hack your SS.Com account and the objective darrell didn't post that?

Sorry that Colorado State and Minnesota equals Alabama and Notre Dame, and Prairie View equals Sam Houston State. If you had to play all your playoff games away from the dome you wouldn't know where Frisco was.

[AmsterBison]

As I wasn't there, I don't firmly believe anything. I said way back in post 49 that I didn't know the details and didn't want to convict him without trial. However, it's not inconceivable that the 3rd person only joined the fight to stop Beck. Not saying I'm convinced that's how it went down and that's why I asked if anyone KNEW it was 2 on 1. If the guy was as big as has been posted here, I'd think he thought he was more than man enough to fight Beck on even terms, but he found out to the contrary xlolx

Throwing punches is not SOP for breaking up a fight. Maybe it's different in Montana.

In the very short press conference, the prosecutor said the police re-interviewed two witnesses after reviewing the surveillance tapes. Based on those two actions, they dropped the charge. To me, that suggests that the witnesses changed their stories in the face of video evidence.

[BisonBacker]

Sorry that Colorado State and Minnesota equals Alabama and Notre Dame, and Prairie View equals Sam Houston State. If you had to play all your playoff games away from the dome you wouldn't know where Frisco was.

If if's and but's were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry christmas too. Nice try to deflect but don't look now your AZZ just got handed to you and the hard on you have for dogging NDSU just got exposed. But thanks for playing along and proving what everyone here already knows.

[Professor Chaos]

Sorry that Colorado State and Minnesota equals Alabama and Notre Dame, and Prairie View equals Sam Houston State. If you had to play all your playoff games away from the dome you wouldn't know where Frisco was.
Which is evidenced by NDSU's 12 game win streak away from home xrolleyesx

[darell1976]

If if's and but's were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry christmas too. Nice try to deflect but don't look now your AZZ just got handed to you and the hard on you have for dogging NDSU just got exposed. But thanks for playing along and proving what everyone here already knows.

And how was it handed to me? That your team goes from Felony theft (best buy) to indecent exposure, to voter fraud, to resisting arrest, and assault. What is install for next summer?

All I did was post the link with a question, if you get a hardon by this so be it. There are nice stuff over on BV I could post about your fanbases hardon with UND ( the latest new thread over there is UND playing UW in 2018) but I don't have that much time.

[BisonBacker]

And how was it handed to me? That your team goes from Felony theft (best buy) to indecent exposure, to voter fraud, to resisting arrest, and assault. What is install for next summer?

Keep on digging that hole darrell lets see how deep you can make it for yourself.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

No but your OOC schedules were cupcakes. Home field does help getting to a national title. As for the rest of the post hey call it as I see it. You know my true colors, and I did start this thread with a question not a smack fest, obviously you missed the boat.

Pretty pathetic logic dude. They are and have been the absolute pinnacle of FCS for two years now and nothing you say or try to spin can change that. They are what you hope your team will be and that's a fact.

As far as the post goes. It was there and the reason I said he handled the topic fairly here is because that culture on the home boards is also pathetic and boring to most here and won't be happening. He apparently knew that from previous discussions. I don't care what his true feelings on the matter are.

If he sees things that way then it's on him that he's hurting for some levelheadedness and likes to fall to hyperbole and bull****. Just glad he kept his LB impression over there.xthumbsupx

[BisonBacker]

And how was it handed to me? That your team goes from Felony theft (best buy) to indecent exposure, to voter fraud, to resisting arrest, and assault. What is install for next summer?

Just curious are you and portly rob related?

[darell1976]

Just curious are you and portly rob related?

As related as you and LB are.

[Professor Chaos]

And how was it handed to me? That your team goes from Felony theft (best buy) to indecent exposure, to voter fraud, to resisting arrest, and assault. What is install for next summer?
No idea but I'm sure you'll be the first to start the thread about it here to "ask questions" and inform the AGS populace.

[darell1976]

Pretty pathetic logic dude. They are and have been the absolute pinnacle of FCS for two years now and nothing you say or try to spin can change that. They are what you hope your team will be and that's a fact.

As far as the post goes. It was there and the reason I said he handled the topic fairly here is because that culture on the home boards is also pathetic and boring to most here and won't be happening. He apparently knew that from previous discussions. I don't care what his true feelings on the matter are.

If he sees things that way then it's on him that he's hurting for some levelheadedness and likes to fall to hyperbole and bull****. Just glad he kept his LB impression over there.xthumbsupx

Except what happens in the offseason.

[darell1976]

No idea but I'm sure you'll be the first to start the thread about it here to "ask questions" and inform the AGS populace.

No but if UND is in trouble I am sure Bisonville will be the first to report it.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

No but if UND is in trouble I am sure Bisonville will be the first to report it.

You know Darell? I stick up for you a lot but some times you can be so ****ing trolly. Jeez.

[darell1976]

You know Darell? I stick up for you a lot but some times you can be so ****ing trolly. Jeez.

When the hell do you stick up for me? Because we both hate Lakes, beyond that I have no recollection.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

As someone who knows what happened.....warned everyone to wait for further info...and is waiting for SE to come back and eat his s*** Sammy....I'm happy. :D

You didn't know what happened, you knew what people who said they were there claimed they saw. Before the announcement today, it was simply hearsay, something you fail to understand. Not once did I say that what you heard couldn't be true, or even unlikely to be true. I did however state repeatedly that regardless of the legality of Beck's actions (self defense or not), he exercised extremely poor judgment for the second time which reflected negatively on himself, the team and university, which in my opinion should be grounds for his dismissal. I'm happy for your ego though, you seem to be real proud of yourself for nothing of importance. xlolx

[BisonBacker]

No but if UND is in trouble I am sure Bisonville will be the first to report it.
No you'd better be because we all want to continue to see "the objective Darrell". Gotta keep that objective non biased image all polished up!

[darell1976]

No you'd better be because we all want to continue to see "the objective Darrell". Gotta keep that objective non biased image all polished up!

I tried to be when I started this thread. Just wait during the season when the UND threads will be drowning in Bison posts. UAH knows to well about that.

[Bisonoline]

Sorry that Colorado State and Minnesota equals Alabama and Notre Dame, and Prairie View equals Sam Houston State. If you had to play all your playoff games away from the dome you wouldn't know where Frisco was.

xtwocentsxxlolxxlolx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Except what happens in the offseason.

Really? You want to make mountains out of mole hills then feel free but stop trying to convince me. I can see through it.

UND may not have many problems yet but you'd be a true dullard to think that you are gonna have a large group of young, aggressive guys playing a very aggressive sport that will never have any problem. When it does happen, and it will you get to look a disingenuous dick so good for you I suppose.

[MSUBobcat]

You didn't know what happened, you knew what people who said they were there claimed they saw. Before the announcement today, it was simply hearsay, something you fail to understand. Not once did I say that what you heard couldn't be true, or even unlikely to be true. I did however state repeatedly that regardless of the legality of Beck's actions (self defense or not), he exercised extremely poor judgment for the second time which reflected negatively on himself, the team and university, which in my opinion should be grounds for his dismissal. I'm happy for your ego though, you seem to be real proud of yourself for nothing of importance. xlolx

Dismissal??? Over something that didn't even convince the prosecutor to take it to court? That seems pretty harsh.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

You didn't know what happened, you knew what people who said they were there claimed they saw. Before the announcement today, it was simply hearsay, something you fail to understand. Not once did I say that what you heard couldn't be true, or even unlikely to be true. I did however state repeatedly that regardless of the legality of Beck's actions (self defense or not), he exercised extremely poor judgment for the second time which reflected negatively on himself, the team and university, which in my opinion should be grounds for his dismissal. I'm happy for your ego though, you seem to be real proud of yourself for nothing of importance. xlolx

Other than the fact that he was right anyway. I completely got your angle btw, you wanted to leave a very easy "out" while saying what you wanted to say. Kudos but it would have been wrong to do as you suggested in my opinion. That's OK, we don't have to agree.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Dismissal??? Over something that didn't even convince the prosecutor to take it to court? That seems pretty harsh.

Exactly. He's married to it now though so he has to stick to it for the troll effect. Watch him go!

[MSUBobcat]

Exactly. He's married to it now though so he has to stick to it for the troll effect. Watch him go!

xlolx xpopcornx

[darell1976]

Really? You want to make mountains out of mole hills then feel free but stop trying to convince me. I can see through it.

UND may not have many problems yet but you'd be a true dullard to think that you are gonna have a large group of young, aggressive guys playing a very aggressive sport that will never have any problem. When it does happen, and it will you get to look a disingenuous dick so good for you I suppose.

Players do get in trouble but seems to be the norm at SU every summer since what 2010 someone and or a bunch ( last year it was 18 people) have had run ins with the law. There is a Fargo radio show that is going to look at the culture of Bison football due to all these run ins. It's a problem maybe the NCAA needs to look at. Craig Bohl has a player problem and the schools reputation is getting more and more tarnished by the troublemakers.

[AmsterBison]

This link will only be good for two weeks: http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/402976/

Nice journalism, by the way, "Multiple witnesses said that Beck was the aggressor." Multiple meaning the guy's friend who was punching Beck and the woman who was with them. Or in other words, the two witnesses who changed their stories when they got re-interviewed.

Eventually we'll see the surveillance videos but this is what a pretty reputable guy on bisonville.com (sent from his iPhone):


Ok--some more info. Travis was never in the Sport Bar. He was eating at Drunken Noodle when this all started. No I am not kidding. He and victim initially talked and BS'd, but convo went south and victim got in Travis' face. T backed away. Things continued to escalate, and Travis went outside with guy and friend following him. Travis cuts into a back alley, and comes out by himself with victim, friend and woman following him. T cuts into a parking lot and they continue to follow him. This is where fight happened. Both victim and friend were involved and Travis fought his way out. T knocked the victim down and his friend started hitting T while victim was trying to pull him to ground by the leg. T hit victim one more time and he was out. T pulled himself out off situation just as police arrived. The only witnesses interviewed that night were victims friend and girl with them. T tried to walk away, and that's where resisting comes in, sorta. More on that later possibly, but charge is still pending so ...

That jibes with the press conference. The county guys said the initial contact took place in a restaurant, not a bar. They said that after seeing the video, they re-interviewed two witnesses (the only two, apparently) and <insert something that makes sense> decided to drop the charges.

It's comical in a Kafka-esque, funny-not-funny kind of way. It sure isn't funny if you are Travis Beck though. If it wasn't for the surveillance cameras, he stood a fair chance of going to jail, losing his scholarship, getting kicked out of school, and just in general being disgraced. Even if it had gone trial and he was acquitted, he'd still have a sizable number of people who would think him guilty but not convicted (heck, a lot of people will still think that - I mean, why let facts get in the way?)

[Bisonoline]

Players do get in trouble but seems to be the norm at SU every summer since what 2010 someone and or a bunch ( last year it was 18 people) have had run ins with the law. There is a Fargo radio show that is going to look at the culture of Bison football due to all these run ins. It's a problem maybe the NCAA needs to look at. Craig Bohl has a player problem and the schools reputation is getting more and more tarnished by the troublemakers.

xbawlingx

[molden]

Players do get in trouble but seems to be the norm at SU every summer since what 2010 someone and or a bunch ( last year it was 18 people) have had run ins with the law. There is a Fargo radio show that is going to look at the culture of Bison football due to all these run ins. It's a problem maybe the NCAA needs to look at. Craig Bohl has a player problem and the schools reputation is getting more and more tarnished by the troublemakers.

You don't care about NDSU, the program, or the players.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Exactly. He's married to it now though so he has to stick to it for the troll effect. Watch him go!

If I had wanted to troll I would've gone with the thug angle. Why troll though, when the fact that he's a huge dumbass and liability to their program is satisfaction enough?

[darell1976]

You don't care about NDSU, the program, or the players.

I do live in the city it's located in, and if the bison players go on a crime spree on my town I do care about it especially when they don't learn their lesson the first time.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Players do get in trouble but seems to be the norm at SU every summer since what 2010 someone and or a bunch ( last year it was 18 people) have had run ins with the law. There is a Fargo radio show that is going to look at the culture of Bison football due to all these run ins. It's a problem maybe the NCAA needs to look at. Craig Bohl has a player problem and the schools reputation is getting more and more tarnished by the troublemakers.
Sorry darell but you are full of ****. You want to bring up things like the voter deal and MIP's and so forth and suggest it's some sort of culture problem? Talk about making leaps man.

I'd suggest you take the advice that would have been offered to Travis Beck and "just walk away from it".xthumbsupx

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Other than the fact that he was right anyway. I completely got your angle btw, you wanted to leave a very easy "out" while saying what you wanted to say. Kudos but it would have been wrong to do as you suggested in my opinion. That's OK, we don't have to agree.

Had nothing to do with leaving an out; like I said, I don't give a rip about the legal aspect of the thing, he was guilty of being a dumbass and for a second time, which demonstrates he didn't learn anything the first time and will likely run into trouble again. If he played for EWU, I would honestly say cut him. That kind of behavior isn't needed.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I do live in the city it's located in, and if the bison players go on a crime spree on my town I do care about it especially when they don't learn their lesson the first time.

We've talked about these sorts of things in the past. You sure you want to keep this **** up darell? Think back to some of our conversations last year and the fact that I said I wasn't gonna let this go on going forward.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Anyways, this thread is pretty much over. All it is now is an NDSU circle jerk and darrell. Like none of us have ever seen that tragedy before...

[molden]

Here you go UAH:

https://www.facebook.com/CGProgram?fref=ts

From 11am-2pm on WDAY AM 970

You gloat with self-importance. Yours must be a lonely existence.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Why are you dropping the hammer on me? So they can bash me and bring **** up but if I come back then its my fault? Who I am Travis Beck?

Ironically you apparently don't see how very LakesBisoney that last comment was. To answer...I don't care because as I said we've talked about this already. PM me if you need a refresher but expect very blatant discussion on the matter.

[molden]

How am I gloating?

You gloat with self-promotion over what you hope are problems for others. It's all over your writings.

[darell1976]

I am done with this thread. Bison fans have at it.

[molden]

I am done with this thread. Bison fans have at it.

I would agree that you're done.

[semobison]

I am done with this thread. Bison fans have at it.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out! First post since the Nat game! I am really tired of Darrel's crap in every thread that concerns NDSU, and its been going on for years!

[Professor Chaos]

This article has a video that shows some of the surveillance camera footage: http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/402976/

Looks like Beck was trying to leave the area and the "victim" was the one that pursued him.

[heath]

Wow, 326 post because a kid from NDSU has messed up again. It seems the larger FCS programs have no intergrity,win at all cost. Reminds of the Al Groh time at UVA. It would really embarrass me and make me angry as an alumni to think coaches were all about the W on Saturday,versus fulfilling the promise to the recruit and his parents. Next man up and take the trash outlxnodx Thank God he did not re-tweet somethingxlolx

[Screamin_Eagle174]

This article has a video that shows some of the surveillance camera footage: http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/402976/

Looks like Beck was trying to leave the area and the "victim" was the one that pursued him.

Or he was just leading him out of camera sight so he could mercilessly beat the ***** out of the guy. xwhistlex

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Wow, 326 post because a kid from NDSU has messed up again. It seems the larger FCS programs have no intergrity,win at all cost. Reminds of the Al Groh time at UVA. It would really embarrass me and make me angry as an alumni to think coaches were all about the W on Saturday,versus fulfilling the promise to the recruit and his parents. Next man up and take the trash outlxnodx Thank God he did not re-tweet somethingxlolx

http://www.themovies.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/billy_madison_principal_no_points_mercy_soul_movie _image_01.jpg

[Professor Chaos]

Wow, 326 post because a kid from NDSU has messed up again. It seems the larger FCS programs have no intergrity,win at all cost. Reminds of the Al Groh time at UVA. It would really embarrass me and make me angry as an alumni to think coaches were all about the W on Saturday,versus fulfilling the promise to the recruit and his parents. Next man up and take the trash outlxnodx Thank God he did not re-tweet somethingxlolx
So you're saying he should be dismissed from the team to fulfill some mythical promise to recruits and parents about life at NDSU being all duckies and bunnies? Or are you just here to shout into the wind?

[MSUBobcat]

This article has a video that shows some of the surveillance camera footage: http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/402976/

Looks like Beck was trying to leave the area and the "victim" was the one that pursued him.

Let me preface this by saying I don't know all the details of what went down. However, that video does little to prove his innocence, IMO. Maybe it was self defense, maybe it wasn't. But that video clears up nothing in my eyes. The "victim" did follow him, but if I'm being threatened and don't want to fight, I probably don't go down a dark alley with the guy following. Maybe that's just me and common sense. There's a big difference between being innocent and wasting tax payer dollars on a case that can't be proven within a reasonable doubt. Like I said, he may be entirely innocent. That video just doesn't PROVE it to me. xtwocentsx

[Bisonator]

Or he was just leading him out of camera sight so he could mercilessly beat the ***** out of the guy. xwhistlex

Jeeses dude get over it. The guy got exactly what he deserved and obviously wanted. I didn't see him walking the other way!

[Houndawg]

Let me preface this by saying I don't know all the details of what went down. However, that video does little to prove his innocence, IMO. Maybe it was self defense, maybe it wasn't. But that video clears up nothing in my eyes. The "victim" did follow him, but if I'm being threatened and don't want to fight, I probably don't go down a dark alley with the guy following. Maybe that's just me and common sense. There's a big difference between being innocent and wasting tax payer dollars on a case that can't be proven within a reasonable doubt. Like I said, he may be entirely innocent. That video just doesn't PROVE it to me. xtwocentsx

Well, this thread certainly offers proof that there isn't much to do in North Dakota.

[MSUBobcat]

Jeeses dude get over it. The guy got exactly what he deserved and obviously wanted. I didn't see him walking the other way!

No question he got what he deserved. From the video, I don't think the fight was completely unavoidable, however, and why I think Bohl would suspend him for a game, unless there's better evidence out there somewhere. He didn't get charged, but he didn't have to get NDSU brought up in the news in a negative light either. Dismissal from the team, as SE174 says he would want from one of their players, is ridiculous.

[Hammersmith]

Let me preface this by saying I don't know all the details of what went down. However, that video does little to prove his innocence, IMO. Maybe it was self defense, maybe it wasn't. But that video clears up nothing in my eyes. The "victim" did follow him, but if I'm being threatened and don't want to fight, I probably don't go down a dark alley with the guy following. Maybe that's just me and common sense. There's a big difference between being innocent and wasting tax payer dollars on a case that can't be proven within a reasonable doubt. Like I said, he may be entirely innocent. That video just doesn't PROVE it to me. xtwocentsx

That wasn't an alley, it was a parking lot. And there's a big apartment building on the other side. Without knowing Beck's address, I would say he was just trying to go home.

[Thundar]

Well, this thread certainly offers proof that there isn't much to do in North Dakota.

wow you add some great intellectual dialogue

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Let me preface this by saying I don't know all the details of what went down. However, that video does little to prove his innocence, IMO. Maybe it was self defense, maybe it wasn't. But that video clears up nothing in my eyes. The "victim" did follow him, but if I'm being threatened and don't want to fight, I probably don't go down a dark alley with the guy following. Maybe that's just me and common sense. There's a big difference between being innocent and wasting tax payer dollars on a case that can't be proven within a reasonable doubt. Like I said, he may be entirely innocent. That video just doesn't PROVE it to me. xtwocentsx

Of course it doesn't but those of us who know the area understand that it isn't a "dark alley" but rather an open parking lot area traversed by several people going to the parking lot behind the OB or back to their cars up on Broadway. He clearly was trying to get away from the assholes.

[Green1]

Well, this thread certainly offers proof that there isn't much to do in North Dakota.

OHHHH NOOOO!!!!

Somebody must be holding a gun to Houndawg's head- making him read and post on this thread! xanim_chaix


Poor guy....

[NoDak 4 Ever]

OHHHH NOOOO!!!!

Somebody must be holding a gun to Houndawg's head- making him read and post on this thread! xanim_chaix


Poor guy....

I know, right? Wonder how long he took to come up with that one.

[littleguysingreen]

Sorry that Colorado State and Minnesota equals Alabama and Notre Dame, and Prairie View equals Sam Houston State. If you had to play all your playoff games away from the dome you wouldn't know where Frisco was.

CSU and Minny would mop the floor with the Whiox.

[MSUBobcat]

Of course it doesn't but those of us who know the area understand that it isn't a "dark alley" but rather an open parking lot area traversed by several people going to the parking lot behind the OB or back to their cars up on Broadway. He clearly was trying to get away from the assholes.

Fair enough. For what its worth, I'm glad the guy got his a$$ handed to him and the charges were dropped.

Edit: Since the guy wasn't seriously hurt. Don't wish that on anyone. But if you pick a fight, be prepared for the repercussions.

[Bisonoline]

If I had wanted to troll I would've gone with the thug angle. Why troll though, when the fact that he's a huge dumbass and liability to their program is satisfaction enough?

Are you an asshole 24/7 ?

[Vitojr130]

wow you add some great intellectual dialogue

I've been through the southern portion of Illinois. It's not much different than ND.... Just more people driving through...

[Bisonoline]

Of course it doesn't but those of us who know the area understand that it isn't a "dark alley" but rather an open parking lot area traversed by several people going to the parking lot behind the OB or back to their cars up on Broadway. He clearly was trying to get away from the assholes.

That was pretty obvious. Beck was trying to avoid the situation but the the other 2 guys kept following him and wouldnt leave him alone. You could also tell by the other guys actions that he wanted to fight. Glad he got his ass kicked. He deserved it.

[Vitojr130]

Sorry darell but you are full of ****. You want to bring up things like the voter deal and MIP's and so forth and suggest it's some sort of culture problem? Talk about making leaps man.

I'd suggest you take the advice that would have been offered to Travis Beck and "just walk away from it".xthumbsupx

But ursus, don't you realize just how threatening MIP's are to darell's quality of life and the rest of the city of Fargo? I mean, if it wasn't for those crazy crime-spree, MIP- ridden football players, North Dakota might finally fall from the top of the highest drinking states in the country per capita list.

[Vitojr130]

Not too many people load up on alcohol at Horbachers, or West Acres.

Have you ever been to the Sunmart by NDSU? I used to work there. Twice a month the cooking wine sells out. Also, a month after I quit, the person who took over my shift got shot... Just sayin'...

[IBleedYellow]

Have you ever been to the Sunmart by NDSU? I used to work there. Twice a month the cooking wine sells out. Also, a month after I quit, the person who took over my shift got shot... Just sayin'...


I was so pissed about that guy getting shot. I had missed the man with a weapon by 10 minutes, I was carrying at the time.

[molden]

This article has a video that shows some of the surveillance camera footage: http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/402976/

Looks like Beck was trying to leave the area and the "victim" was the one that pursued him.

Why is this stuff available to the public? Stupid The policeman was stupid too. They're going to throw out the whole thing. All of it. A good attorney will be all over this.

To those who think that the Bison program is so dirty, I call bull****. It's no different than any big-time college program.

[AmsterBison]

Why is this stuff available to the public? Stupid The policeman was stupid too. They're going to throw out the whole thing. All of it. A good attorney will be all over this.

It was going to come out sooner or later. I don't think that anybody wants this case thrown out on a technicality. The city will either drop the charges or Beck's lawyer is going to chew them up and spit them out.

[Houndawg]

wow you add some great intellectual dialogue

Only compared to the rest of the thread.xlolx

[Houndawg]

I've been through the southern portion of Illinois. It's not much different than ND.... Just more people driving through...

Touch a nerve, bro?

[Houndawg]

OHHHH NOOOO!!!!

Somebody must be holding a gun to Houndawg's head- making him read and post on this thread! xanim_chaix


Poor guy....

just one of those things that repels, but you can't look away...

[MplsBison]

Are you an asshole 24/7 ?

Guys, like I said - why is someone from Washington (or Illinois, or Montana for that matter) interested in what happened at a bar in Fargo, ND?

Obviously, it's just so that he can agitate people for his own entertainment. Ignore him.

[parr90]

I agree. Granted I highly doubt most guys would want to fight football player, especially a linebacker, unless he was a giant prick or there was a prior grievance.

While a player at Georgia Southern I was challenged often by people in bars. Several times some guy would approach me talking crap. Never understood this as I didnt like to fight and didnt bother anyone.Usually some guy that was under 200 lbs. I was 290 lbs and back in the day knew how to handle myself as I was a 3 time heavyweight state wrestling champion in high school. People get alcohol in them and think they are superman. We were always talked to about being in situations like this and where to be and where not to be. There were certain bars that were off limits but we went anyway. I was never one to start a fight or mess with anyone but there were a couple football players that would pick on or start fights with people. I dont know what happened with Travis but football players at this level are highly motivated and aggressive with alot of testosterone. They go out to practice and kick peoples butts everyday so they are usually very confident and dont like to be challenged. I understand why they get mad when challenged. I knocked a guy out cold one night who had cursed me and challenged me. I was scared that he might be really hurt. Come to find out the guy was a senior at a local high school and his mother pressed charges against me. The guy had to get stitches and had some medical expenses. I was a sophomore so was only a couple years older but I thought he was in college and was a fairly big kid. You just never know what can happen when alcohol is involved. I hope it works out with Travis and he can learn from this situation

[Houndawg]

Tell Travis to smoke more weed when he's juicing

[Houndawg]

Guys, like I said - why is someone from Washington (or Illinois, or Montana for that matter) interested in what happened at a bar in Fargo, ND?

Obviously, it's just so that he can agitate people for his own entertainment. Ignore him.


Don't be such a wet blanket, of course FCS fans are curious about what happens when it involves the national champion. Tell me you didn't pay any attention to Montana when they were cranking out the felonies.

[Southern Bison]

Are you an asshole 24/7 ?

Why yes...yes he is! The Creamin' Beagle's arrival is just a sign that the football season is upon us again. Not to worry, he'll disappear by Thanksgiving or by the 3rd quarter of Ewwww's playoff loss.

[IBleedYellow]

Why yes...yes he is! The Creamin' Beagle's arrival is just a sign that the football season is upon us again. Not to worry, he'll disappear by Thanksgiving or by the 3rd quarter of Ewwww's playoff loss.


I'll give him one thing, at least he's consistent.

[Tribe4SF]

Obviously, it's just so that he can agitate people for his own entertainment. Ignore him.

Please tell me you did not say that.xlolx

[BisonBacker]

Please tell me you did not say that.xlolx

OMG this is way to funny and spot on.

[344Johnson]

Please tell me you did not say that.xlolx

I think he did....ooofda.

[MSUBobcat]

Just wondering if anyone watched the video from the police cruiser, cuz yesterday I was told by 4 or 5 people how wrong I was that Beck could have avoided the fight and he only went outside because it was closing time. However Beck admitted at least 4 times that he went outside to fight, at the request of the other guy. 40 seconds into the video Beck says, "he was pushing me inside and wanted to fight in the alley, so I took it outside." He restated this at about the 1:30 ("I just said take it outside"), 3:45 ("he said you wanna go outside. Yeah, let's go f'ing outside"), and 5:20 ("you want to fight? I said let's go outside") marks in the video. The other guy obviously was the instigator and got what he deserved and Beck's charges were appropriately dropped, IMO. But he did put himself in that position and I would be surprised if he didn't get a 1-game suspension, because it doesn't appear from Beck's own statements that it was unavoidable, and therefore needlessly drug NDSU's name through the mud a little bit. I expect Bohl to make an example of this, letting the players know that no matter who starts the fight, being a willing participant in a fight will not be tolerated.

[Trumpster]

Perhaps, but the end of the video was hilarious.

[MplsBison]

Please tell me you did not say that.xlolx

?????????

[MplsBison]

Just wondering if anyone watched the video from the police cruiser, cuz yesterday I was told by 4 or 5 people how wrong I was that Beck could have avoided the fight and he only went outside because it was closing time. However Beck admitted at least 4 times that he went outside to fight, at the request of the other guy. 40 seconds into the video Beck says, "he was pushing me inside and wanted to fight in the alley, so I took it outside." He restated this at about the 1:30 ("I just said take it outside"), 3:45 ("he said you wanna go outside. Yeah, let's go f'ing outside"), and 5:20 ("you want to fight? I said let's go outside") marks in the video. The other guy obviously was the instigator and got what he deserved and Beck's charges were appropriately dropped, IMO. But he did put himself in that position and I would be surprised if he didn't get a 1-game suspension, because it doesn't appear from Beck's own statements that it was unavoidable, and therefore needlessly drug NDSU's name through the mud a little bit. I expect Bohl to make an example of this, letting the players know that no matter who starts the fight, being a willing participant in a fight will not be tolerated.

Telling them what they wanted to hear. Nothing more.

If Bohl suspends one of his star players...a player who significantly contributes and makes the team that much better just by stepping on the field....for NOTHING, he should be fired.

He didn't do anything. It's as if nothing ever happened, now. It's over - move on.

[MSUBobcat]

Telling them what they wanted to hear. Nothing more.

If Bohl suspends one of his star players...a player who significantly contributes and makes the team that much better just by stepping on the field....for NOTHING, he should be fired.

He didn't do anything. It's as if nothing ever happened, now. It's over - move on.

Given your credibility on AGS, even amongst your fellow Bison fans, I shouldn't be responding to this. However, I doubt he was telling them what they wanted to hear, and not what actually happened.

If you'd rather have your coach fired for benching someone involved in a bar fight that made the news than send a message that that behavior won't be tolerated, I fear for the public image of your university. As even Bison fans have stated, he's a public figure, representing NDSU, and should behave in a manner that positively reflects upon the school. Being a willing participant in a fight doesn't do that, and your theory that he had no other choice because he was attacked no longer holds water, given the video evidence to the contrary.

[MplsBison]

A.G.A.I.N. ---- sending a message of what?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!!??!

That you shall not be allowed to defend yourself if you are attacked????

If Brock Jensen is attacked in the grocery store, he shouldn't defend himself???


Gosh dangit, some of you guys are just so simple minded in your thinking.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Are you an asshole 24/7 ?

Only to those who've earned it. Congrats! xthumbsupx

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Gosh dangit, some of you guys are just so simple minded in your thinking.

xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx That's rich. xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[Southern Bison]

Only to those who've earned it. Congrats! xthumbsupx

BTW, how's your boy Dalis doing?
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot/news/newstest.aspx?id=4523110

Looks like you've broken some glass in that house that you are pontificating from.

Also, Darell, as Mr. Objective Resident Crime Notifier, xeyebrowx how could you have missed posting about this last season?

[Vitojr130]

Touch a nerve, bro?

Not really. Just stating a fact. Southern Illinois = North Dakota in terms of excitement

[Screamin_Eagle174]

BTW, how's your boy Dalis doing?
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot/news/newstest.aspx?id=4523110

Looks like you've broken some glass in that house that you are pontificating from.

He never played for EWU, and never will... and rightfully so. Try again, Copernicus.

[MSUBobcat]

A.G.A.I.N. ---- sending a message of what?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!!??!

That you shall not be allowed to defend yourself if you are attacked????

If Brock Jensen is attacked in the grocery store, he shouldn't defend himself???


Gosh dangit, some of you guys are just so simple minded in your thinking.

You cannot seriously be so simple minded to realize that he wasn't defending himself from imminent danger. The guy said, "you wanna fight." Beck said, "let's take it f'ing outside." There is a big difference between being cold cocked and saying," yeah, I'll go outside and fight you." If he had wanted to, I bet this fight could have been avoided, which is why I'm betting Bohl will give him a slap on the wrist. If you are ok with your players getting into fights, that's your prerogative. As representatives of my school, I'd prefer they behave in a more civil manner.

[Southern Bison]

He never played for EWU, and never will... and rightfully so. Try again, Copernicus.

If he was never part of the team, why did the Ewww Athletics Dept. feel the need to suspend him or even report that information to the media that he was suspended? Don't try again...it just makes you look worse.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

If he was never part of the team, why did the Ewww Athletics Dept. feel the need to suspend him or even report that information to the media that he was suspended? Don't try again...it just makes you look worse.

You should brush up on your critical reading skills, or lack thereof. He never played for EWU, I didn't say he wasn't part of the team. He was a true frosh recruit who had been on campus all of a day or two before fall camp even started when he made a really stupid decision. Sucks, because he had a lot of talent, but we don't need that kind of BS behavior... good riddance.

[CrazyCat]

You should brush up on your critical reading skills, or lack thereof. He never played for EWU, I didn't say he wasn't part of the team. He was a true frosh recruit who had been on campus all of a day or two before fall camp even started when he made a really stupid decision. Sucks, because he had a lot of talent, but we don't need that kind of BS behavior... good riddance.


What are your feelings on taking players that are dismissed from their previous team ?

[MplsBison]

You cannot seriously be so simple minded to realize that he wasn't defending himself from imminent danger. The guy said, "you wanna fight." Beck said, "let's take it f'ing outside." There is a big difference between being cold cocked and saying," yeah, I'll go outside and fight you." If he had wanted to, I bet this fight could have been avoided, which is why I'm betting Bohl will give him a slap on the wrist. If you are ok with your players getting into fights, that's your prerogative. As representatives of my school, I'd prefer they behave in a more civil manner.

Beck defended himself from attack and nothing more. He deserves zero punishment from the school, the athletic department or the coaching staff. He did nothing wrong.

I suggest you stop projecting a scenario that you desire to have happened onto the rest of us, because it's not reality.

[Bisonator]

What are your feelings on taking players that are dismissed from their previous team ?

Yes, what about your new transfer with the drug issues? Do tell....

[MplsBison]

This thread is long over. Beck has no serious criminal charges remaining against him and none that will survival the legal process.

Now it's just a bunch of internet message board posters judging people they've never met or will ever meet, let alone talk to. Suggest we lock it down.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

What are your feelings on taking players that are dismissed from their previous team ?

I'd say it depends on the circumstances but in general it's a bad idea because if they've shown a history of making poor choices, they're likely not going to change. That being said, Baldwin is a pretty high character coach, so if he feels the kid warrants another chance, won't be a liability, and can contribute to the team, then sure. But if they mess up once... see ya.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Yes, what about your new transfer with the drug issues? Do tell....

I don't have high (http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/images/smilies/rimshot.gif) hopes he won't get busted again, and if he does I expect him to be off the team. Granted marijauna laws and NCAA (and NFL) rules against are stupid, IMO.

[Southern Bison]

You should brush up on your critical reading skills, or lack thereof. He never played for EWU, I didn't say he wasn't part of the team. He was a true frosh recruit who had been on campus all of a day or two before fall camp even started when he made a really stupid decision. Sucks, because he had a lot of talent, but we don't need that kind of BS behavior... good riddance.

Nice work with semantics...are you the Washington State Democratic Party Chair?

Oh...and thanks for the Neg Rep!! xlolx Trying to drop me back to your low stature?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Nice work with semantics...are you the Washington State Democratic Party Chair?

Oh...and thanks for the Neg Rep!! xlolx Trying to drop me back to your low stature?

Just passing on the love from other Bison fans. It's what you guys do, isn't it?

[MSUBobcat]

Beck defended himself from attack and nothing more. He deserves zero punishment from the school, the athletic department or the coaching staff. He did nothing wrong.

I suggest you stop projecting a scenario that you desire to have happened onto the rest of us, because it's not reality.

I suggest you take off the green and gold colored glasses and watch the video where Beck admits 4 times that he told the other guy, "Let's take it outside." He defended himself from attack only in the same way a boxer does. Beck knew what was about to happen when he went outside with the guy. That's the reality. If you can't agree with that, you are either trolling, an extremely blind homer or incredibly stupid. I'll let a jury of your peers decide which. I'm done taking your bait.

[Houndawg]

I suggest you take off the green and gold colored glasses and watch the video where Beck admits 4 times that he told the other guy, "Let's take it outside." He defended himself from attack only in the same way a boxer does. Beck knew what was about to happen when he went outside with the guy. That's the reality. If you can't agree with that, you are either trolling, an extremely blind homer or incredibly stupid. I'll let a jury of your peers decide which. I'm done taking your bait.

All three. Dude can multitask.

[Houndawg]

Not really. Just stating a fact. Southern Illinois = North Dakota in terms of excitement


More excitement in Southern Illinois any weekend than North Dakota has had since they became a State.

[Thundar]

More excitement in Southern Illinois any weekend than North Dakota has had since they became a State.

you like your cousin that much huh??

[Houndawg]

you like your cousin that much huh??

An hour to think about it and thats all you got? Weak.

Hey, if you divorce your wife in North Dakota, is she still your sister?

[MplsBison]

I suggest you take off the green and gold colored glasses and watch the video where Beck admits 4 times that he told the other guy, "Let's take it outside." He defended himself from attack only in the same way a boxer does. Beck knew what was about to happen when he went outside with the guy. That's the reality. If you can't agree with that, you are either trolling, an extremely blind homer or incredibly stupid. I'll let a jury of your peers decide which. I'm done taking your bait.

If what you say was true, they would not have dropped the charges.

Therefore, you see only what you want to see and for some reason you want a football player that you've never met from a team that could potentially prevent yours from getting (additional) home playoff games to be suspended. Gee, I wonder why.

Didn't happen, not going to happen.

[344Johnson]

More excitement in Southern Illinois any weekend than North Dakota has had since they became a State.

Haha, sure. What does Illinois have exactly? I mean...other than subpar football teams..

[Vitojr130]

More excitement in Southern Illinois any weekend than North Dakota has had since they became a State.


Yup, those cornfields, oil wells, and man-made lakes sure are more exciting than North Dakota... xlolx

[MSUBobcat]

If what you say was true, they would not have dropped the charges.

Therefore, you see only what you want to see and for some reason you want a football player that you've never met from a team that could potentially prevent yours from getting (additional) home playoff games to be suspended. Gee, I wonder why.

Didn't happen, not going to happen.

If what I say WASN'T true, why did the person involved say it 4 times? Usually in a bar fight where both people are willing combatants, and especially if the other guy is the instigator, there is no criminal charge, much like what happened here. Try to follow along here now.... What I'm saying is that as a member of the Bison football team, he should have let discretion be the better part of valor. Instead of saying, "Let's take this outside", he could have said, "no man, I don't want any trouble. I didn't realize she was your girl." Since he didn't choose that route, he should get a slight punishment so other teammates make a different (read: better) choice. Not sure how I can say that any simpler.

[MplsBison]

If what I say WASN'T true, why did the person involved say it 4 times? Usually in a bar fight where both people are willing combatants, and especially if the other guy is the instigator, there is no criminal charge, much like what happened here. Try to follow along here now.... What I'm saying is that as a member of the Bison football team, he should have let discretion be the better part of valor. Instead of saying, "Let's take this outside", he could have said, "no man, I don't want any trouble. I didn't realize she was your girl." Since he didn't choose that route, he should get a slight punishment so other teammates make a different (read: better) choice. Not sure how I can say that any simpler.

Please don't strain yourself, it already clear how apt you are at thinking simple.

He can't be charged with a crime, therefore any such videos you reference can not be used against him as justification for superfluous punishments. Those videos are only available because of false charges, they shouldn't exist in the public domain.


It should be no different than if Coach Bohl had "heard through the grapevine" that Beck had been involved in a bar fight, but was not caught or arrested by police. Bohl would be justified in applying punishments like making him get up early on a Saturday to do punishment conditioning or volunteer work, something like that.

A public punishment, like a suspension, is uncalled for and out of line.

[MSUBobcat]

Please don't strain yourself, it already clear how apt you are at thinking simple.

He can't be charged with a crime, therefore any such videos you reference can not be used against him as justification for superfluous punishments. Those videos are only available because of false charges, they shouldn't exist in the public domain.

I truly hope you wear a helmet. If you can't distinguish between a bad decision and an illegal one, I can't help you. I've made plenty of bad decisions in my life, almost none of which involved law enforcement.

[Houndawg]

Yup, those cornfields, oil wells, and man-made lakes sure are more exciting than North Dakota... xlolx

Yup, that's about how little it takes to be more exciting than North Dakota.

xcoffeex

[Houndawg]

If what I say WASN'T true, why did the person involved say it 4 times? Usually in a bar fight where both people are willing combatants, and especially if the other guy is the instigator, there is no criminal charge, much like what happened here. Try to follow along here now.... What I'm saying is that as a member of the Bison football team, he should have let discretion be the better part of valor. Instead of saying, "Let's take this outside", he could have said, "no man, I don't want any trouble. I didn't realize she was your girl." Since he didn't choose that route, he should get a slight punishment so other teammates make a different (read: better) choice. Not sure how I can say that any simpler.

Make him sit out one of the cupcake games and then everybody looks like they care and there is no danger of the offender not playing being a factor in the game. Simple.

Bohl should jerk a knot in his ass as a wake up call so he doesn't get in another situation like this because if it happens again nobody is going to care who started it, they're just going to note that this is the third time this kid has been associated with an incident that reflects poorly on his team, right or wrong.

[MSUBobcat]

It should be no different than if Coach Bohl had "heard through the grapevine" that Beck had been involved in a bar fight, but was not caught or arrested by police. Bohl would be justified in applying punishments like making him get up early on a Saturday to do punishment conditioning or volunteer work, something like that.

A public punishment, like a suspension, is uncalled for and out of line.

That's exactly my point. If Bohl heard through the grapevine the Beck had been involved in a bar fight and Beck says, "Yeah, coach, I was.", I'd think Bohl sits him for violating team rules, without stating publicly what he did. Since it's already public that forces Bohl's hand even more. You have your opinion of how it should be handled, I have mine. We'll just have to see what kind of team Bohl wants to run.

[Houndawg]

Please don't strain yourself, it already clear how apt you are at thinking simple.

He can't be charged with a crime, therefore any such videos you reference can not be used against him as justification for superfluous punishments. Those videos are only available because of false charges, they shouldn't exist in the public domain.


It should be no different than if Coach Bohl had "heard through the grapevine" that Beck had been involved in a bar fight, but was not caught or arrested by police. Bohl would be justified in applying punishments like making him get up early on a Saturday to do punishment conditioning or volunteer work, something like that.

A public punishment, like a suspension, is uncalled for and out of line.

You make LB look like he has a clue.

[MSUBobcat]

Make him sit out one of the cupcake games and then everybody looks like they care and there is no danger of the offender not playing being a factor in the game. Simple.

If you don't sit him the first game after the incident and cherry pick the game to one he isn't needed in, you might as well not sit him. Doesn't send any message to the teammates. Except maybe the wrong one.

[Houndawg]

If you don't sit him the first game after the incident and cherry pick the game to one he isn't needed in, you might as well not sit him. Doesn't send any message to the teammates. Except maybe the wrong one.

They can beat K State without him.

[Houndawg]

Haha, sure. What does Illinois have exactly? I mean...other than subpar football teams..

I guess thats the difference between having a coach from Nebraska and a coach from North Dakota.

[Bisonoline]

Only to those who've earned it. Congrats! xthumbsupx

Considering youre an asshole to just about everyone that puts me in good company. Thanks.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Considering youre an asshole to just about everyone that puts me in good company. Thanks.

Nope, just to ignorant, pretentious douchebags. Don't feel too special though, your type are quite common. You're welcome! xthumbsupx

[IBleedYellow]

That's exactly my point. If Bohl heard through the grapevine the Beck had been involved in a bar fight and Beck says, "Yeah, coach, I was.", I'd think Bohl sits him for violating team rules, without stating publicly what he did. Since it's already public that forces Bohl's hand even more. You have your opinion of how it should be handled, I have mine. We'll just have to see what kind of team Bohl wants to run.


I love watching fans of other schools try and judge our coach on how he runs his team. If you haven't seen from the last ten years how he runs in, then that's cool. Enjoy your internet badass rank. You earned it!xbowx

[Thundar]

I love watching fans of other schools try and judge our coach on how he runs his team. If you haven't seen from the last ten years how he runs in, then that's cool. Enjoy your internet badass rank. You earned it!xbowx

He has booted some big talent, and we have done just fine. I trust whatever he decides

[HandoEX]

Nope, just to ignorant, pretentious douchebags. Don't feel too special though, your type are quite common. You're welcome! xthumbsupx

Are you trolling Bisonville again? I figured you wouldn't come back after we won another title.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Are you trolling Bisonville again? I figured you wouldn't come back after we won another title.

I haven't been able to post on that forum since midway during the 2011 season when some overly sensitive gash put a lock on my account requiring all my posts to be moderated first, all of which they just ignored. xcoffeex

[Bisonwinagn]

What are your thoughts in general of suspending a player for a standard bar fight? I'm ok with a one game suspension or none at all just wondering what other schools have done in this situation.

[Houndawg]

What are your thoughts in general of suspending a player for a standard bar fight? I'm ok with a one game suspension or none at all just wondering what other schools have done in this situation.

Nobody goes to the hospital one game is probably good. It happens again, hammer time, because you should have learned..

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

On the radio it was said that Beck's dad took him home to Munich and told Bohl that he will be back in August. Going to work his ass this summer.

Bohl should reinstate him but give him a game or two suspension.

[Vitojr130]

I guess thats the difference between having a coach from Nebraska and a coach from North Dakota.

Well I guess I'll give that one to you. If you'd rather take a coach from a school with one championship vs 10 so be it... SIU logic...xthumbsupx

[Bisonoline]

I haven't been able to post on that forum since midway during the 2011 season when some overly sensitive gash put a lock on my account requiring all my posts to be moderated first, all of which they just ignored. xcoffeex

You mean there is another asshole posting the same arguements and nonsense as you over at BV?xlolx

[Southern Bison]

Nope, just to ignorant, pretentious douchebags. Don't feel too special though, your type are quite common. You're welcome! xthumbsupx

Beagle, you really need to get out of Grandma's basement...There is this gender called 'woman' and they are pretty awesome to hang out with.

Here's what you need to do:
First, get a job where people aren't pulling up in their cars to talk to you and you aren't asking them if they'd like to upsize their fries.
Second, wearing a DC or Marvel comics t-shirt is NOT a good thing...regardless of how big a fan you are of Big Bang Theory...the best chance you have is the Blossom girl.
Third, you shouldn't have played so much D&D in high school and college.
Fourth, understand that you will never, eeeevvver have a chance with the women you see when you're watching online porn.
Fifth, you need to stop wearing your Def Leopard, Steppenwolf, Metallica, and Dire Straits t-shirts when your Grandma lets you leave the house. Women want men with class...something you know nothing about.

I'd keep going but I'll bet you've been through 1/2 of a box of kleeenex already.

[Houndawg]

Well I guess I'll give that one to you. If you'd rather take a coach from a school with one championship vs 10 so be it... SIU logic...xthumbsupx

I don't do the hiring.xcoffeex


I tried to tell them that somebody from ND probably wouldn't be a very good fit. Nice guy though.

[IBleedYellow]

Just going to post this here quickly:

Apparently Lakes was on a local radio station yesterday to cover all of this Travis Beck case and was cool, calm and collected and represented NDSU well.


I can't believe it until I hear it.

[BigTimeTimmyJim]

Hey all! I'm new here as you probably can already tell, but I've been reading all these post on here and even bisonville and just was thinking why not put my two cents in. As a bison fan, I feel that Travis was the victim and want to stick up for him but yet I also feel like he needs to be disciplined in some way as maybe there was a way to completely avoid the situation (but then again I wasn't there). Even if he had the charges dropped he should have some punishment for getting caught up with the law for a second time. I believe that if he would be suspended for a few games then that would be good. If I was Travis and had to miss even half of the season, I would still be ok with that and count my blessings. His reputation has taken a huge hit with all the media buzz but it all could have been much worse, for example if he wouldn't have had the charges dropped, he would be done with football and possibly even college all together. I honestly hope for the best for him and hopefully he can stay out of trouble. My opinion.

[MSUBobcat]

I love watching fans of other schools try and judge our coach on how he runs his team. If you haven't seen from the last ten years how he runs in, then that's cool. Enjoy your internet badass rank. You earned it!xbowx

Your reading comprehension is.... not good. I haven't in any way judged your coach. My statement was we will see (i.e. in the future) what kind of team he wants to run. As I said before, given how he's handled other situations, my bet is he'll suspend Beck for a game. I think Bohl is a stand up guy and one hell of a coach, and you won't find any post of me saying otherwise.

Curious how I've "earned my internet badass rank". Just because I said things you disagreed with? Not like I've ever said anything threatening or intimidating. I think you may want thicker skin if you are going to hang out on a public forum. xbawlingx

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Damn. I go away for a couple days and this turns into a bigger ****storm?

MSU. worry about your AD and not our coach. I'd take him over your chokin ass guy any day.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Beagle, you really need to get out of Grandma's basement...There is this gender called 'woman' and they are pretty awesome to hang out with.

Here's what you need to do:
First, get a job where people aren't pulling up in their cars to talk to you and you aren't asking them if they'd like to upsize their fries.
Second, wearing a DC or Marvel comics t-shirt is NOT a good thing...regardless of how big a fan you are of Big Bang Theory...the best chance you have is the Blossom girl.
Third, you shouldn't have played so much D&D in high school and college.
Fourth, understand that you will never, eeeevvver have a chance with the women you see when you're watching online porn.
Fifth, you need to stop wearing your Def Leopard, Steppenwolf, Metallica, and Dire Straits t-shirts when your Grandma lets you leave the house. Women want men with class...something you know nothing about.

I'd keep going but I'll bet you've been through 1/2 of a box of kleeenex already.

Thanks for sharing your personal experiences! Sounds like you've had a rough go of it. xlolx

[MSUBobcat]

Damn. I go away for a couple days and this turns into a bigger ****storm?

MSU. worry about your AD and not our coach. I'd take him over your chokin ass guy any day.

No disagreement from me. I'm on record with how I felt about our AD's decision and it wasn't in favor of that pussy.

Not sure why you guys are so hostile. I've never said anything bad about Bohl. Just the opposite actually, if you care to read my posts objectively instead of try to make me into a Bohl-hater. All I've done here is speculate how I think Bohl will handle it and some Bison fans take offense to someone with a different view on something that has yet to be decided. There are Bison fans who think the same way I do, you know. xcoolx

[CrazyCat]

No disagreement from me. I'm on record with how I felt about our AD's decision and it wasn't in favor of that pussy.

Not sure why you guys are so hostile. I've never said anything bad about Bohl. Just the opposite actually, if you care to read my posts objectively instead of try to make me into a Bohl-hater. All I've done here is speculate how I think Bohl will handle it and some Bison fans take offense to someone with a different view on something that has yet to be decided. There are Bison fans who think the same way I do, you know. xcoolx

Didn't that "pussy" lead MSU to a presidents cup last year and is in contention for 2 in a row ?

[344Johnson]

Didn't that "pussy" lead MSU to a presidents cup last year and is in contention for 2 in a row ?

I dont know what some President's Cup but it sounds like a pretty weak consolation trophy for not winning the National Championship.

[CrazyCat]

I dont know what some President's Cup but it sounds like a pretty weak consolation trophy for not winning the National Championship.


Sure. I'd take a football champ. over the presidents cup anytime, but it's a good gauge of an overall athletic program in counting athletics,gpa, and grad. rates for the trophy.

[BigTimeTimmyJim]

The President's Cup would be great to win and even an honor! Someday I hope NDSU can steal the crown away from y'all but I guess I'll be happy with a Natty Champ trophy also. xnodx The Pres Cup is a great indicator of a great overall athletic program as CrazyCat says and is something to be proud of!

[CrazyCat]

The President's Cup would be great to win and even an honor! Someday I hope NDSU can steal the crown away from y'all but I guess I'll be happy with a Natty Champ trophy also. xnodx The Pres Cup is a great indicator of a great overall athletic program as CrazyCat says and is something to be proud of!


Thanks. I should have stated that it was the Big Sky Conference Presidents Cup. You guys joining soon ? xsmiley_wix

[MSUBobcat]

Didn't that "pussy" lead MSU to a presidents cup last year and is in contention for 2 in a row ?

Not in my book. I think the student-athletes should get the lion's share of the credit for that award, unless he's leading them to the library. However, backing out of an agreement to play the defending national champs with short notice seems like something that falls more directly in line with an AD's responsibilities. It was a bitch move and made the school lose credibility throughout the FCS.

[IBleedYellow]

Thanks. I should have stated that it was the Big Sky Conference Presidents Cup. You guys joining soon ? xsmiley_wix

I think the Valley worked out well for us, don't ya think?

[CrazyCat]

Not in my book. I think the student-athletes should get the lion's share of the credit for that award, unless he's leading them to the library. However, backing out of an agreement to play the defending national champs with short notice seems like something that falls more directly in line with an AD's responsibilities. It was a bitch move and made the school lose credibility throughout the FCS.

I wanted the game as much as anyone and your welcome to your opinion. I think your overstating the ramifications of the buyout. Have you seen the new logo and the costs involved ? The income from the home game that we might not have had will sure come in handy.

I'll let you guys get back to discussing the original topic.

[BigTimeTimmyJim]

Thanks. I should have stated that it was the Big Sky Conference Presidents Cup. You guys joining soon ? xsmiley_wix
Oh wow, I don't know what I was thinking! Hmm... well maybe all the conferences should just switch teams every year just to mix things up... ya that's what I was meaning... I'll stick with that! xlolx

[MSUBobcat]

I wanted the game as much as anyone and your welcome to your opinion. I think your overstating the ramifications of the buyout. Have you seen the new logo and the costs involved ? The income from the home game that we might not have had will sure come in handy.

I'll let you guys get back to discussing the original topic.

Cost of redesign totalled $68,000 from what I found here - http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/04/18/montana-state-athletics-debuts-new-bobcat-logo-block-m-for-helmets/

I think our reputation as a school that sticks to its agreements is worth more than that and more than the income from an additional home game. Hopefully it doesn't affect the school's ability to schedule quality OOC games, but only time will tell.xtwocentsx Enough of that though. There was a whole thread on that topic when the news broke. Sorry Bison fans for the partial thread-hijacking.

[CrazyCat]

Cost of redesign totalled $68,000 from what I found here - http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/04/18/montana-state-athletics-debuts-new-bobcat-logo-block-m-for-helmets/

I think our reputation as a school that sticks to its agreements is worth more than that and more than the income from an additional home game. Hopefully it doesn't affect the school's ability to schedule quality OOC games, but only time will tell.xtwocentsx Enough of that though. There was a whole thread on that topic when the news broke. Sorry Bison fans for the partial thread-hijacking.

That's just the football field and stadium. It doesn't include basketball and volleyball courts or all the logos around campus. I'm sure when we got the award for having the best run-out video that everybody asked. "Is that the school that bought out NDSU?"

I really mean it this time.:D Back to the topic.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

That's just the football field and stadium. It doesn't include basketball and volleyball courts or all the logos around campus. I'm sure when we got the award for having the best run-out video that everybody asked. "Is that the school that bought out NDSU?"

I really mean it this time.:D Back to the topic.

What topic? The schadenfreude is a little weak after the dismissal now all you guys want to do is make some hay about the program.

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[Southern Bison]

Thanks for sharing your personal experiences! Sounds like you've had a rough go of it. xlolx

Really? That's all you could come up with? You folded just like Ewww did last year against Sam Houston!

Can we start the countdown to when you disappear from AGS? The last game for Ewww is only 181 days away!

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Really? That's all you could come up with? You folded just like Ewww did last year against Sam Houston!

Can we start the countdown to when you disappear from AGS? The last game for Ewww is only 181 days away!

Your empty, infantile insults just aren't worthy of my time. Maybe try harder next time, little guy.

[Bisonoline]

Your empty, infantile insults just aren't worthy of my time. Maybe try harder next time, little guy.

Obviously it WAS worth your time. xlolx

[justintyem]

**** darell, I was charged with resisting arrest last year while responding to a fire alarm as a volunteer FF and when the DA saw the dashcam video, he turned around and chewed out the officer for being overly aggressive (and wasting his time with the entire case). Police all over the country have a "big swingin' dick" mentality and they'll do whatever they want to whomever they want and get away with it. Hell, even the DA stated that I had an excellent civil case against the department.

Darrell,are you that cop................ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SMpAHJkhm0

[justintyem]

Ok,so this is what I have learn from the 3 Videos of Beck fight.................... Video 1.Inside the Drunken Noodle, Beck was leaning on the counter,when some guy upproach him,and the lady pushes the unnamed man away,then all individuals went to the alley. Then Video 2 of Sidewalk Cam,Travis went outside twords the alley and the 6'6 280 guy kept walking at Travis,so Travis tried to get away............... Now Video 3 Cop Dash Cam.................. One of the 2 guys tried and missed to push or Punch Travis,so Travis Punched back in defense of himself and he knocked down the 6'6 guy on his ass,so the other guy starts punchin back at travis,and travis knocks him back,while the 6'6 guy is standing up so, travis hit him again and knocked him the **** OUT,again is of his Free Defense. Then travis tries to get away from the fight,and the cops shown up and then the Dash Cam is History,again who is the Victim ??????? http://www.valleynewslive.com/story/22568496/assault-charge-dropped-against-ndsus-travis-beck?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=8991579#.UbswoVD89hM.gmail

[Southern Bison]

Your empty, infantile insults just aren't worthy of my time. Maybe try harder next time, little guy.

The Creamed on Beagle has spoken...heed his words because he'll only be around until the 3rd quarter of the Portland State game. Perhaps we'll be blessed with his unique combination of inate trivial bull**** and insightful introspect of his life as a bitch.

Seriously, your return to AGS through this thread has been one of the funniest bits of BS that I've witnessed in quite some time! It was sweet how you tried so hard to be accurate and factual with your Northwest hillbilly notion of how life happens in the rest of the country.

[Bisonoline]

The Creamed on Beagle has spoken...heed his words because he'll only be around until the 3rd quarter of the Portland State game. Perhaps we'll be blessed with his unique combination of inate trivial bull**** and insightful introspect of his life as a bitch.

Seriously, your return to AGS through this thread has been one of the funniest bits of BS that I've witnessed in quite some time! It was sweet how you tried so hard to be accurate and factual with your Northwest hillbilly notion of how life happens in the rest of the country.

He appreared over at BV also. Same asshatery that he has shown here. Of course claiming not to be who he really is. Hes to the point of talking himself in a circle and is forgetting the lies that hes told so he getting caught. Its been quite comical.

[ThompsonThe]

I bet he couldn't copy and paste the link fast enough...

What does it really matter? Anyone that saw it might post it, they probably had more interest.
You sound like you are b___ hurt. Things happen, you have to deal with it. Happens to every school.

[TennBison]

Thanks. I should have stated that it was the Big Sky Conference Presidents Cup. You guys joining soon ? xsmiley_wix

So you are bragging to fans of teams outside of the Big Fluffy about your Big Fluffy presidents cup. Pretty week chest thumping there. Why not brag about something that every team in the FCS can win, like a national championship, or better yet, back to back national championships. You brag about an award that any conference can hand out to a school. I would bet that just like NDSU there are quite a few other schools that have awards (and lots of them in NDSUs case) just like your Presidents Cup. Try finding an award that your football team won this last year and let us know what it is.

[Houndawg]

44 pages of butthurt over a bar fight. Does anybody in North Dakota ever step outside other than to take a dump?

[Tribe4SF]

Ok,so this is what I have learn from the 3 Videos of Beck fight.................... Video 1.Inside the Drunken Noodle, Beck was leaning on the counter,when some guy upproach him,and the lady pushes the unnamed man away,then all individuals went to the alley. Then Video 2 of Sidewalk Cam,Travis went outside twords the alley and the 6'6 280 guy kept walking at Travis,so Travis tried to get away............... Now Video 3 Cop Dash Cam.................. One of the 2 guys tried and missed to push or Punch Travis,so Travis Punched back in defense of himself and he knocked down the 6'6 guy on his ass,so the other guy starts punchin back at travis,and travis knocks him back,while the 6'6 guy is standing up so, travis hit him again and knocked him the **** OUT,again is of his Free Defense. Then travis tries to get away from the fight,and the cops shown up and then the Dash Cam is History,again who is the Victim ??????? http://www.valleynewslive.com/story/22568496/assault-charge-dropped-against-ndsus-travis-beck?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=8991579#.UbswoVD89hM.gmail

After watching this ridiculous thread continue to grow, I finally watched the clip of this young man in the police car. He's an embarrassment to his school, and he had it right when he said parent's wouldn't want him coaching their kids. Plenty of opportunity to get away from that situation, but he willingly went outside to fight, and then has his behavior recorded for all to see. His football career was clearly on his mind, but he couldn't keep himself from ending up in that predicament? Legalities aside, a head coach has to be wondering if this is what he wants from his players. For the moment Beck is the public face of NDSU football, and it ain't a pretty sight.

[Houndawg]

After watching this ridiculous thread continue to grow, I finally watched the clip of this young man in the police car. He's an embarrassment to his school, and he had it right when he said parent's wouldn't want him coaching their kids. Plenty of opportunity to get away from that situation, but he willingly went outside to fight, and then has his behavior recorded for all to see. His football career was clearly on his mind, but he couldn't keep himself from ending up in that predicament? Legalities aside, a head coach has to be wondering if this is what he wants from his players. For the moment Beck is the public face of NDSU football, and it ain't a pretty sight.


Finally broke down and watched it. Ouch. There probably isn't a team in FCS that hasn't had something like this happen, and in the pre-24/7 surveillance US it would have been he said/she said and not that big a deal, maybe a game suspension. If I were betting I'd bet he's gone. I know Jerry Kill would have BBQd his ass and I suspect Bohl is probably similar to him discipline wise.

[justintyem]

He(TB)was in a "NO WIN" situation................... take the assult and get punched repeatedly or Get Hit and Defend urself............... Who won???? The "Victim",won and yet the victim threw the first punch !!!!! I would take TB's side everyday and twice on sunday!!!! And if you cant see the truth and not taking TB's side,ur a HEARTLESS A$$H01E !!!!! BTW- The "PEOPLE" blaming it all on TB,are nothing but JEALOUS jerks !!!!

[Bisonoline]

After watching this ridiculous thread continue to grow, I finally watched the clip of this young man in the police car. He's an embarrassment to his school, and he had it right when he said parent's wouldn't want him coaching their kids. Plenty of opportunity to get away from that situation, but he willingly went outside to fight, and then has his behavior recorded for all to see. His football career was clearly on his mind, but he couldn't keep himself from ending up in that predicament? Legalities aside, a head coach has to be wondering if this is what he wants from his players. For the moment Beck is the public face of NDSU football, and it ain't a pretty sight.

You dont have the full story. He was dropped off by his designated driver so he could get something to eat while his DD dropper some others off. He actually went out side to avoid the guy and to look for his DD so he could get out of there. He gets outside and the DD isnt there but the aggressor follows him. He trys to get away but the guy is bent on fighting. Which of course happens.
Granted TB didnt look good in the back of the squad car. But who of you would after fighting 2 guys?

[Houndawg]

You dont have the full story. He was dropped off by his designated driver so he could get something to eat while his DD dropper some others off. He actually went out side to avoid the guy and to look for his DD so he could get out of there. He gets outside and the DD isnt there but the aggressor follows him. He trys to get away but the guy is bent on fighting. Which of course happens.
Granted TB didnt look good in the back of the squad car. But who of you would after fighting 2 guys?

*********. He said himself, on camera, more than once, that invited the guy to "take it outside". Yeah he was in a no win situation given his already having a strike, but he had options. He might have had to swallow his pride, but he had options.

[Bisonoline]

*********. He said himself, on camera, more than once, that invited the guy to "take it outside". Yeah he was in a no win situation given his already having a strike, but he had options. He might have had to swallow his pride, but he had options.



Correct he did say to take it outside so nothing would happen inside. He goes outside and trys to get away from the guy. Whats so hard to understand?

[justintyem]

Correct he did say to take it outside so nothing would happen inside. He goes outside and trys to get away from the guy. Whats so hard to understand?

Im right on ur side OLine........................This was the whole fight.......... xblahx xarguex xtroublex xasswhipx xzzzzx xstretchx

[MSUBobcat]

Correct he did say to take it outside so nothing would happen inside. He goes outside and trys to get away from the guy. Whats so hard to understand?

I guess what's so hard to understand is how a few Bison fans think that when someone says, "you wanna fight" and you reply, "let's go f'ing outside" that means you want to get away from the guy, not fight him. xrotatehxxlolx If I only watched the surveillance video, I would say it might look like he tried to get away. After he admitted 4 times to saying let's go outside, kinda hard to believe he was trying to get away. Given the evidence, that shouldn't be the debate. The conversation should be whether or not he receives any disciplinary action from the coaching staff. Some say yes, some no. If you don't think he should be punished, I have no problem with your opinion, as long as you agree that he was a willing participant and not jumped in an alley and had no other choice. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but it bothers me when the defense is that he HAD to fight the guy off, when there appears to be other options, like Houndawg said, swallowing your pride. xtwocentsx

FWIW, I'm not talking smack about the program, the coaching staff, players, anyone. I have the utmost respect for what they have accomplished and how Bohl handles his team. Not sure how some of you have got that vibe just because I said I'd bet Bohl assigns a one game suspension, but it's just not true.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Obviously it WAS worth your time. xlolx

Yeah, so clearly evidenced by my 2 second response. xlolx

[Screamin_Eagle174]

He appreared over at BV also. Same asshatery that he has shown here. Of course claiming not to be who he really is. Hes to the point of talking himself in a circle and is forgetting the lies that hes told so he getting caught. Its been quite comical.

xlolx Priceless. Why don't you dip*****s have a mod tell you the IP addresses of my account and whatever account you think is me? I've visited that circle jerk of a forum maybe once in the last year, and haven't posted in nearly two. Moron.

[Bisonoline]

xlolx Priceless. Why don't you dip*****s have a mod tell you the IP addresses of my account and whatever account you think is me? I've visited that circle jerk of a forum maybe once in the last year, and haven't posted in nearly two. Moron.

So there is another Dickhead making the same arguement over at BV that you are making here? Outstanding!!!!

[Bisonoline]

Yeah, so clearly evidenced by my 2 second response. xlolx
'
Hey what ever happens between you and your boyfiend is none of my business.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

So there is another Dickhead making the same arguement over at BV that you are making here? Outstanding!!!!

I know, common sense is a rare thing to bi-son fans.

[Bisonoline]

I guess what's so hard to understand is how a few Bison fans think that when someone says, "you wanna fight" and you reply, "let's go f'ing outside" that means you want to get away from the guy, not fight him. xrotatehxxlolx If I only watched the surveillance video, I would say it might look like he tried to get away. After he admitted 4 times to saying let's go outside, kinda hard to believe he was trying to get away. Given the evidence, that shouldn't be the debate. The conversation should be whether or not he receives any disciplinary action from the coaching staff. Some say yes, some no. If you don't think he should be punished, I have no problem with your opinion, as long as you agree that he was a willing participant and not jumped in an alley and had no other choice. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but it bothers me when the defense is that he HAD to fight the guy off, when there appears to be other options, like Houndawg said, swallowing your pride. xtwocentsx

FWIW, I'm not talking smack about the program, the coaching staff, players, anyone. I have the utmost respect for what they have accomplished and how Bohl handles his team. Not sure how some of you have got that vibe just because I said I'd bet Bohl assigns a one game suspension, but it's just not true.

I agree with pretty much with what you said. Regardless of him saying lets go outside it obvious by his actions when he gets outside that he is trying to avoid a fight. But was a willing participant when he realizes that the fight is going to happen. He actually gives the other guy a chance to not get his ass kicked. But that guy didnt look for any other options himself did he. The guy want to fight from the get go. He just picked on the wrong guy.

[MSUBobcat]

I agree with pretty much with what you said. Regardless of him saying lets go outside it obvious by his actions when he gets outside that he is trying to avoid a fight. But was a willing participant when he realizes that the fight is going to happen. He actually gives the other guy a chance to not get his ass kicked. But that guy didnt look for any other options himself did he. The guy want to fight from the get go. He just picked on the wrong guy.

xbowx Finally feel like I'm making some headway. I agree 100% that the other guy was the instigator and got what he had coming to him, which led to the charges being dropped. Never said anything to the contrary. My question is, now that he's cleared legally but it is obvious he probably could have avoided the conflict altogether and didn't have to bring negative publicity to NDSU, how do you (Bison fans) think Bohl handles it? That's all I've ever been saying in this thread, not bashing a great coach or the team. As I've said, if I had to put money on it, I think Bohl holds him accountable with a light punishment. Maybe I'm wrong, and I won't come on here saying what a bad coach he is for it. It's just my prediction.

[Houndawg]

I guess what's so hard to understand is how a few Bison fans think that when someone says, "you wanna fight" and you reply, "let's go f'ing outside" that means you want to get away from the guy, not fight him. xrotatehxxlolx If I only watched the surveillance video, I would say it might look like he tried to get away. After he admitted 4 times to saying let's go outside, kinda hard to believe he was trying to get away. Given the evidence, that shouldn't be the debate. The conversation should be whether or not he receives any disciplinary action from the coaching staff. Some say yes, some no. If you don't think he should be punished, I have no problem with your opinion, as long as you agree that he was a willing participant and not jumped in an alley and had no other choice. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but it bothers me when the defense is that he HAD to fight the guy off, when there appears to be other options, like Houndawg said, swallowing your pride. xtwocentsx

FWIW, I'm not talking smack about the program, the coaching staff, players, anyone. I have the utmost respect for what they have accomplished and how Bohl handles his team. Not sure how some of you have got that vibe just because I said I'd bet Bohl assigns a one game suspension, but it's just not true.

Some of them seem very needy and seem to take it personally if every statement about the Bison isn't prefaced by telling them how great they are.

Lots of options for the drunk fool who already knew his **** was weak. Like: "No, man, I don't want to fight, hey barkeep, will you have the bouncer show this guy the door?" But I guess if the kid had any brains he would be playing offense..

[Bisonoline]

Some of them seem very needy and seem to take it personally if every statement about the Bison isn't prefaced by telling them how great they are.

Lots of options for the drunk fool who already knew his **** was weak. Like: "No, man, I don't want to fight, hey barkeep, will you have the bouncer show this guy the door?" But I guess if the kid had any brains he would be playing offense..

They werent in a bar. There was no bouncer. He was at the Drunken Noodle trying to get something to eat. his **** wasnt weak apparently as he knocked the aggressors lights out. You are pretty light on the facts. May be thats the reason for your ignorant post.

[Houndawg]

They werent in a bar. There was no bouncer. He was at the Drunken Noodle trying to get something to eat. his **** wasnt weak apparently as he knocked the aggressors lights out. You are pretty light on the facts. May be thats the reason for your ignorant post.

Don't get the vapors over it sweetheart. Here's another option: "Hey Mr. manager, would you call the cops? Somebody needs to get this guy out of here before he gets himself hurt." If he wan't already weak from his previous incident, maybe he gets away with it. But like Tribe said - right now he is the face of Bison football and it ain't a pretty sight. Congratulations.

[Bisonoline]

xbowx Finally feel like I'm making some headway. I agree 100% that the other guy was the instigator and got what he had coming to him, which led to the charges being dropped. Never said anything to the contrary. My question is, now that he's cleared legally but it is obvious he probably could have avoided the conflict altogether and didn't have to bring negative publicity to NDSU, how do you (Bison fans) think Bohl handles it? That's all I've ever been saying in this thread, not bashing a great coach or the team. As I've said, if I had to put money on it, I think Bohl holds him accountable with a light punishment. Maybe I'm wrong, and I won't come on here saying what a bad coach he is for it. It's just my prediction.

That is a good question. One that many are pondering. Ok he got an MIP last year. Which to me is no big deal. Its a very common occurance in Fargo. If I was coach he get a pass as he wasnt the aggressor. I also dont believe in punishing a kid just to make it look good for the media. But I think he gets docked 1 game for general principle.

[Bisonoline]

Don't get the vapors over it sweetheart. Here's another option: "Hey Mr. manager, would you call the cops? Somebody needs to get this guy out of here before he gets himself hurt." If he wan't already weak from his previous incident, maybe he gets away with it. But like Tribe said - right now he is the face of Bison football and it ain't a pretty sight. Congratulations.

99.9 % of America doesnt even know about this. If you consider him the face of NDSU then you are more ignorant than I previously thought.
No vapors from me. It is what it is. Its you who have no connection to NDSU who are telling us what we need to be concerned about.

[Houndawg]

99.9 % of America doesnt even know about this. If you consider him the face of NDSU then you are more ignorant than I previously thought.
No vapors from me. It is what it is. Its you who have no connection to NDSU who are telling us what we need to be concerned about.

I'm not telling you you need to be concerned about anything, just sayin' what it looks like outside ND. I couldn't care less what the coach does, but I am kind of curious to see if this can be stretched to 50 pages of butthurt. If you think there was no way out of that without a fight you aren't exactly Noam Chomsky either. Kid should smoke more weed when he's juicin'..

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I'm not telling you you need to be concerned about anything, just sayin' what it looks like outside ND. I couldn't care less what the coach does, but I am kind of curious to see if this can be stretched to 50 pages of butthurt. If you think there was no way out of that without a fight you aren't exactly Noam Chomsky either. Kid should smoke more weed when he's juicin'..


What kind of stupid comment is this?

[Houndawg]

What kind of stupid comment is this?

Just tryin' to help the boy out, keep the roid rage down. So many people are packing these days that his temper could get him in a lot worse trouble down the road.

[Bisonoline]

I'm not telling you you need to be concerned about anything, just sayin' what it looks like outside ND. I couldn't care less what the coach does, but I am kind of curious to see if this can be stretched to 50 pages of butthurt. If you think there was no way out of that without a fight you aren't exactly Noam Chomsky either. Kid should smoke more weed when he's juicin'..

Kid showed great restraint. I would have beat his ass right there so there would have been plenty of witnesses and no questions. I always loved punks who would try and start a fight. My reply was always---why outside? Is there something you think you can do outside that you cant in here? You would be surprised on the number who would back down because they didnt want anyone to see the possible outcome and be embarrassed.
If you think you are causing butt hurt all you are doing is showing yours.

[Houndawg]

Kid showed great restraint. I would have beat his ass right there so there would have been plenty of witnesses and no questions. I always loved punks who would try and start a fight. My reply was always---why outside? Is there something you think you can do outside that you cant in here? You would be surprised on the number who would back down because they didnt want anyone to see the possible outcome and be embarrassed.
If you think you are causing butt hurt all you are doing is showing yours.

I don't think I'm causing butthurt, it was here 40 pages before me.

Restraint is good trait to possess these days, it could save his life. Is there a local line on how long til he screws up again?

[Bisonoline]

I don't think I'm causing butthurt, it was here 40 pages before me.

Restraint is good trait to possess these days, it could save his life. Is there a local line on how long til he screws up again?

We were starting a line on how long before your next idiotic comment but you were just too fast.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I don't think I'm causing butthurt, it was here 40 pages before me.

Restraint is good trait to possess these days, it could save his life. Is there a local line on how long til he screws up again?



You're an idiot with your comments on here.

[Houndawg]

You're an idiot with your comments on here.

Oh c'mon, a little humor helps dull the embarrassment, don't be such a wet blanket.

[Bisonoline]

Oh c'mon, a little humor helps dull the embarrassment, don't be such a wet blanket.

Considering how you have embarrassed yourself I think alittle humor would be a good thing.

[Houndawg]

Considering how you have embarrassed yourself I think alittle humor would be a good thing.

You need to tell your boy Travis that, he's the one covering ND with glory

[Southern Bison]

'
Hey what ever happens between you and your boyfiend is none of my business.

You must spread reputation around before giving it to Bisonoline again.

[Bisonoline]

You need to tell your boy Travis that, he's the one covering ND with glory

He has many highlights including Intercepting a pass in the 1st natty that turned the game in our favor. He has represented us well. We will leave all the small distractions to tools like yourself to worry qbout.

[Southern Bison]

Yeah, so clearly evidenced by my 2 second response. xlolx


'
Hey what ever happens between you and your boyfiend is none of my business.

Eastern Washington Booster Club footage (Creamin' Beagle 174's first movie...the red & black gives it away)

http://youtu.be/Ulb3tZU8vsk

[Screamin_Eagle174]

You must spread reputation around before giving it to Bisonoline again.

Reputation must be your codeword for chlamydia.

[Bisonoline]

xcrazyxxcrazyx

[Tribe4SF]

You dont have the full story. He was dropped off by his designated driver so he could get something to eat while his DD dropper some others off. He actually went out side to avoid the guy and to look for his DD so he could get out of there. He gets outside and the DD isnt there but the aggressor follows him. He trys to get away but the guy is bent on fighting. Which of course happens.
Granted TB didnt look good in the back of the squad car. But who of you would after fighting 2 guys?

My comments weren't about him being in the wrong any more than the others involved. It's the video in the police car that creates the impression. He handled himself very poorly even though he knew he would be judged by the whole situation. Who doesn't know that when the police arrive you are respectful to them...follow their orders...and certainly don't use profanity in talking to them? The scene in the car was after things had calmed down, and the young man appears calm when he entered the car. What he had to say did not help him at all.

As to my comment about him being the face of NDSU football, it doesn't matter how wide spread this story is. I would bet plenty of people in Fargo, and in the university community are well aware of it, and have seen the video. Those are the people that matter, and it's their impressions that Coach Bohl must consider.

[Houndawg]

My comments weren't about him being in the wrong any more than the others involved. It's the video in the police car that creates the impression. He handled himself very poorly even though he knew he would be judged by the whole situation. Who doesn't know that when the police arrive you are respectful to them...follow their orders...and certainly don't use profanity in talking to them? The scene in the car was after things had calmed down, and the young man appears calm when he entered the car. What he had to say did not help him at all.

As to my comment about him being the face of NDSU football, it doesn't matter how wide spread this story is. I would bet plenty of people in Fargo, and in the university community are well aware of it, and have seen the video. Those are the people that matter, and it's their impressions that Coach Bohl must consider.

They have a really, really, hard time understanding that. If you don't tell them how wonderful they are it means you hate them. I think it goes way back to when the US lost the coin toss with Canada over who had to admit them. Being among the few states that don't play big time football only serves to accentuate the inferiority complex. On the up side, that is a classic recipe for overachieving.

[Bisonator]

My comments weren't about him being in the wrong any more than the others involved. It's the video in the police car that creates the impression. He handled himself very poorly even though he knew he would be judged by the whole situation. Who doesn't know that when the police arrive you are respectful to them...follow their orders...and certainly don't use profanity in talking to them? The scene in the car was after things had calmed down, and the young man appears calm when he entered the car. What he had to say did not help him at all.

As to my comment about him being the face of NDSU football, it doesn't matter how wide spread this story is. I would bet plenty of people in Fargo, and in the university community are well aware of it, and have seen the video. Those are the people that matter, and it's their impressions that Coach Bohl must consider.

Good lord man, the kid had been drinking and was just in a fist fight with two other clowns. Then to find out you are the only one facing charges knowing full well the other idiots started the whole mess! How would you react under those circumstances?

[NoDak 4 Ever]

They have a really, really, hard time understanding that. If you don't tell them how wonderful they are it means you hate them. I think it goes way back to when the US lost the coin toss with Canada over who had to admit them. Being among the few states that don't play big time football only serves to accentuate the inferiority complex. On the up side, that is a classic recipe for overachieving.

Translation: My football team is really disappointing so the only thing I have to do on a football board is pick on a 21 year old drunk kid.

[Houndawg]

Translation: My football team is really disappointing so the only thing I have to do on a football board is pick on a 21 year old drunk kid.

xlolx


If were 21 he'd be able to hold his beer better.xcoffeex


But you're right about my team being dissappointing

[Professor Chaos]

Like I've said from the beginning, and gotten grilled for it on Bisonville, is that Beck should be suspended at least for a game if he had a role in escalating it to the point that fists were thrown. It's tough to differentiate between what is rumor and what is fact. I've heard plenty of his defenders say that he was doing nothing wrong and the fight was started because the "victim" didn't like his long hair or that he was using Canadian money. What looks more likely is that Beck was talking to a chick that the "victim" was either interested in or involved with and he took offense to that. The tapes they released certainly make it look like Beck was not trying to fight when they "took it outside" but he was more than ready to take it outside knowing full well what the connotation of that is (hint: it's not "lets go outside so we can avoid a fight").

I don't think he had any intention of starting a fight that night but he also didn't seem to have too much interest in stymieing a potential fight either and for that he should be punished by the team.

[Go Bison]

I guess what's so hard to understand is how a few Bison fans think that when someone says, "you wanna fight" and you reply, "let's go f'ing outside" that means you want to get away from the guy, not fight him. xrotatehxxlolx If I only watched the surveillance video, I would say it might look like he tried to get away. After he admitted 4 times to saying let's go outside, kinda hard to believe he was trying to get away. Given the evidence, that shouldn't be the debate. The conversation should be whether or not he receives any disciplinary action from the coaching staff. Some say yes, some no. If you don't think he should be punished, I have no problem with your opinion, as long as you agree that he was a willing participant and not jumped in an alley and had no other choice. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but it bothers me when the defense is that he HAD to fight the guy off, when there appears to be other options, like Houndawg said, swallowing your pride. xtwocentsx

FWIW, I'm not talking smack about the program, the coaching staff, players, anyone. I have the utmost respect for what they have accomplished and how Bohl handles his team. Not sure how some of you have got that vibe just because I said I'd bet Bohl assigns a one game suspension, but it's just not true.

This wouldn't surprise me at all. Some fans have said they should suspend him for the Montana State game.*

*I apologize if this was already posted, I don't have time to read through every post.

[Houndawg]

Like I've said from the beginning, and gotten grilled for it on Bisonville, is that Beck should be suspended at least for a game if he had a role in escalating it to the point that fists were thrown. It's tough to differentiate between what is rumor and what is fact. I've heard plenty of his defenders say that he was doing nothing wrong and the fight was started because the "victim" didn't like his long hair or that he was using Canadian money. What looks more likely is that Beck was talking to a chick that the "victim" was either interested in or involved with and he took offense to that. The tapes they released certainly make it look like Beck was not trying to fight when they "took it outside" but he was more than ready to take it outside knowing full well what the connotation of that is (hint: it's not "lets go outside so we can avoid a fight").

I don't think he had any intention of starting a fight that night but he also didn't seem to have too much interest in stymieing a potential fight either so for that he should be punished by the team.

Exactly. He said several times, on camera, that it was his idea to take it outside. Don't need him to beat K State anyway.

[Bisonator]

I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a 1-2 game suspension. Simply for the fact that this was his second incident. Although maybe not of his choosing, but he put himself in a bad situation.

[Houndawg]

I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a 1-2 game suspension. Simply for the fact that this was his second incident. Although maybe not of his choosing, but he put himself in a bad situation.

One game ought to do it I'd think. I think I'd get somebody else to coach the kids at the summer camp.

[BisonBacker]

Like I've said from the beginning, and gotten grilled for it on Bisonville, is that Beck should be suspended at least for a game if he had a role in escalating it to the point that fists were thrown. It's tough to differentiate between what is rumor and what is fact. I've heard plenty of his defenders say that he was doing nothing wrong and the fight was started because the "victim" didn't like his long hair or that he was using Canadian money. What looks more likely is that Beck was talking to a chick that the "victim" was either interested in or involved with and he took offense to that. The tapes they released certainly make it look like Beck was not trying to fight when they "took it outside" but he was more than ready to take it outside knowing full well what the connotation of that is (hint: it's not "lets go outside so we can avoid a fight").

I don't think he had any intention of starting a fight that night but he also didn't seem to have too much interest in stymieing a potential fight either and for that he should be punished by the team.

Well said and I agree!

[UNDBIZ]

Like I've said from the beginning, and gotten grilled for it on Bisonville, is that Beck should be suspended at least for a game if he had a role in escalating it to the point that fists were thrown. It's tough to differentiate between what is rumor and what is fact. I've heard plenty of his defenders say that he was doing nothing wrong and the fight was started because the "victim" didn't like his long hair or that he was using Canadian money. What looks more likely is that Beck was talking to a chick that the "victim" was either interested in or involved with and he took offense to that. The tapes they released certainly make it look like Beck was not trying to fight when they "took it outside" but he was more than ready to take it outside knowing full well what the connotation of that is (hint: it's not "lets go outside so we can avoid a fight").

I don't think he had any intention of starting a fight that night but he also didn't seem to have too much interest in stymieing a potential fight either and for that he should be punished by the team.

Agreed. I think a 1, maybe 2 game suspension along with a short leash for the rest of his time at ndsu is adequate punishment for this situation.

[Houndawg]

Agreed. I think a 1, maybe 2 game suspension along with a short leash for the rest of his time at ndsu is adequate punishment for this situation.

Likely he was already on a short leash, hence the sit out. The cop car footage ain't helping his cause.

[MSUBobcat]

This wouldn't surprise me at all. Some fans have said they should suspend him for the Montana State game.*

*I apologize if this was already posted, I don't have time to read through every post.

+1. xlolxxlolxxlolxxthumbsupx

[MplsBison]

I stopped following this thread Friday and I'm not going to take the time to catch back up, but I will just say this: anyone who is a fan of a program that NDSU will be competing with directly (either in conference or for home playoff games come bracket time) has something to directly gain by wishing for anything that could cause NDSU to lose.

Therefore fans from EW, MSU, UND and SIU who are calling for suspensions - you automatically lose credibility and your opinions, no matter how well intentioned or thought out, should be dismissed.

Now, NDSU fans who are calling for suspensions: fine. That's your opinion and you're entitled to that. Hopefully Bohl won't listen to you and will chose not to punish a kid for doing nothing illegal, but he has to make that decision.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

I stopped following this thread Friday and I'm not going to take the time to catch back up, but I will just say this: anyone who is a fan of a program that NDSU will be competing with directly (either in conference or for home playoff games come bracket time) has something to directly gain by wishing for anything that could cause NDSU to lose.

Therefore fans from EW, MSU, UND and SIU who are calling for suspensions - you automatically lose credibility and your opinions, no matter how well intentioned or thought out, should be dismissed.

Now, NDSU fans who are calling for suspensions: fine. That's your opinion and you're entitled to that. Hopefully Bohl won't listen to you and will chose not to punish a kid for doing nothing illegal, but he has to make that decision.

I may have to quit this board. We agree completely on something.

[MSUBobcat]

I stopped following this thread Friday and I'm not going to take the time to catch back up, but I will just say this: anyone who is a fan of a program that NDSU will be competing with directly (either in conference or for home playoff games come bracket time) has something to directly gain by wishing for anything that could cause NDSU to lose.

Therefore fans from EW, MSU, UND and SIU who are calling for suspensions - you automatically lose credibility and your opinions, no matter how well intentioned or thought out, should be dismissed.

Now, NDSU fans who are calling for suspensions: fine. That's your opinion and you're entitled to that. Hopefully Bohl won't listen to you and will chose not to punish a kid for doing nothing illegal, but he has to make that decision.

Coming from MPLS, that is one hysterical comment. xlolxxlolxxlolx

I haven't said anything because I think MSU will gain anything by him missing the K-State game. One player doesn't make the team and a loss to an FBS team won't cost you home field at the end of the year, provided they take care of business the rest of the year.

Just because it's not illegal, doesn't make it a good choice. Say he went up to a professor and says, "F you teach. I ain't taking your test." How about burning a flag wearing an NDSU jersey? What about posting racist tweets? All legal actions, but would definitely be punished by the coaching staff. There's tons of examples of legal acts that would result in suspension.

And in your eyes, only Bison fans' opinions matter? You are a pompous prick ain't ya?

[MplsBison]

Losing Beck most definitely decreases NDSU's chances to win the K-State game or at least make it competitive. Even a competitive loss could go a long way in the eyes of the FCS playoff selection committee when it comes time to assign home games to an 8-3/9-2 NDSU vs. a 9-2 MSU, EW or UND.


I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished at all. That's ridiculous. I'm saying there are many, many ways to punish a young man that will remind him of his obligations to team, school, his family, etc. that are NON-PUBLIC. A suspension is a public punishment. That's unnecessary in this case for a non-criminal act.

[Bisonoline]

Coming from MPLS, that is one hysterical comment. xlolxxlolxxlolx

I haven't said anything because I think MSU will gain anything by him missing the K-State game. One player doesn't make the team and a loss to an FBS team won't cost you home field at the end of the year, provided they take care of business the rest of the year.

Just because it's not illegal, doesn't make it a good choice. Say he went up to a professor and says, "F you teach. I ain't taking your test." How about burning a flag wearing an NDSU jersey? What about posting racist tweets? All legal actions, but would definitely be punished by the coaching staff. There's tons of examples of legal acts that would result in suspension.

And in your eyes, only Bison fans' opinions matter? You are a pompous prick ain't ya?

I think we are in a sad state as a society when people think any obnoxious act needs to lead to some sort of punitive punishment. Its just not athletes who are in the cross hairs now. Damn near every day some type of non event happens and people are calling for the persons head. People need to nut up and live life.

[MSUBobcat]

Losing Beck most definitely decreases NDSU's chances to win the K-State game or at least make it competitive. Even a competitive loss could go a long way in the eyes of the FCS playoff selection committee when it comes time to assign home games to an 8-3/9-2 NDSU vs. a 9-2 MSU, EW or UND.


I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished at all. That's ridiculous. I'm saying there are many, many ways to punish a young man that will remind him of his obligations to team, school, his family, etc. that are NON-PUBLIC. A suspension is a public punishment. That's unnecessary in this case for a non-criminal act.

Finally a sound argument from you. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I have no issues with yours. Thanks for finally being objective and backing it with reasons.

[Houndawg]

I stopped following this thread Friday and I'm not going to take the time to catch back up, but I will just say this: anyone who is a fan of a program that NDSU will be competing with directly (either in conference or for home playoff games come bracket time) has something to directly gain by wishing for anything that could cause NDSU to lose.

Therefore fans from EW, MSU, UND and SIU who are calling for suspensions - you automatically lose credibility and your opinions, no matter how well intentioned or thought out, should be dismissed.

Now, NDSU fans who are calling for suspensions: fine. That's your opinion and you're entitled to that. Hopefully Bohl won't listen to you and will chose not to punish a kid for doing nothing illegal, but he has to make that decision.

Shut up, bitch.

[BisonBacker]

Shut up, bitch.

Now there is a well thought out post xcoffeex

[Houndawg]

Now there is a well thought out post xcoffeex

more thought than half the posts in a 50 page thread about a drunk kid in a bar fight. I'd set the over/under at 75 pages, still a couple of months to explore the delicate shading and nuance of the issue...

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

more thought than half the posts in a 50 page thread about a drunk kid in a bar fight. I'd set the over/under at 75 pages, still a couple of months to explore the delicate shading and nuance of the issue...



....and with such a mental 'giant' as you are, you keep your worthless posts coming....xthumbsdownx

[IBleedYellow]

Just realized this....a kid in a bar fight caused a 50 page thread.