Appstatenation FOIA'd GSU and App re: Sun Belt. Has some info...

[Skjellyfetti]

Has 50+ pages of documents... but, is releasing slowly because he's not sure what he can publicly release without getting into legal trouble.

I'm going to just link to the website to give it the traffic it deserves.

http://www.appstatenation.com/

[Skjellyfetti]

Ah ****. Repost. Mods, you can delete this.

And, do a better job naming your threads so it's easier to scan the front page and see if there's already a thread. xsmiley_wix

[Baldy]

Nothing more than what we already knew. xrolleyesx

Probably isn't going to matter in the grand scheme of things, but people need to mind their own ******* business and let these things work themselves out. xnodx

[Professor Chaos]

No, by all means. We need more App/GaSo realignment threads! MORE! MORE!!!!!!

[citdog]

if I was an app st person i'd file a FOIA request to find out what happened to my defense against The Citadel and Wofford. witness protection?

[GlassOnion]

if I was an app st person i'd file a FOIA request to find out what happened to my defense against The Citadel and Wofford. witness protection?

No, must have been something else. Witness protection would last way longer than one season, like Citadel football, showing up every 20-30 years.

[cbarrier90]

No, by all means. We need more App/GaSo realignment threads! MORE! MORE!!!!!!

You got any better ideas? Welcome to the offseason!

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Still seems like Karl Benson shopping puppy dogs and ice cream at this point. One of the schools mentioned was Towson, after all.

[Apphole]

No, by all means. We need more App/GaSo realignment threads! MORE! MORE!!!!!!

There were hundreds of redundant Canada State threads all season. I think you can let a few slide before you have a right to bitch about it.

[gsu_paintballer]

if I was an app st person i'd file a FOIA request to find out what happened to my defense against The Citadel and Wofford. witness protection?

Going to need you to cite your source in your signature, please.

Thanks.

[citdog]

Going to need you to cite your source in your signature, please.

Thanks.


Douglas Southall Freeman

[ncguitarplyr]

FOIA Article #3:

EXCLUSIVE: E-Mails Between GSU & NMSU Raise Conference Realignment Questions
http://www.appstatenation.com/2013/02/03/exclusive-e-mails-between-gsu-nmsu-raise-conference-realignment-questions/

[CID1990]

FOIA Article #3:

EXCLUSIVE: E-Mails Between GSU & NMSU Raise Conference Realignment Questions
http://www.appstatenation.com/2013/02/03/exclusive-e-mails-between-gsu-nmsu-raise-conference-realignment-questions/

Looks like the Stinkers think there ain't enough room in this Sun Belt town for two of ya

[citdog]

these two could be meeting up to discuss how to best 'realign' one anothers schmeckles into their bunghole.

[walliver]

Looks like the Stinkers think there ain't enough room in this Sun Belt town for two of ya

I would not be completely surprised if ASU gets left out. ASU would be somewhat of an outlier in the Sunbelt, especially if WKU leaves. NMSU would also be an outlier, but would probably be football-only so teams wouldn't have to fly their tennis and volleyball teams around.

My personal feeling is that ASU is better prepared for the jump, but GSU is a better fit for the Sunbelt.

If the Sunbelt chooses to add 4 teams, then ASU would be OK.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

I have heard from reliable sources that GSU basically did the same thing last year with App. There's no way GSU would rather join with NMSU than App. State.

Maybe Peacock and/or Cobb have told Keel that they're just not sure about the Sun Belt so we've had to turn to someone else.

[gsu_paintballer]

Douglas Southall Freeman

The .gif file, genius.

[HappyAppy]

Looks like the Stinkers think there ain't enough room in this Sun Belt town for two of ya

Could be, doubt it though. I think two things are very telling: 1. NMSU flew to Georgia (and not the other way around) and 2. these emails were before the GSU AD was in place and before Benson emailed that map and info to GSU.

I think New Mexico State is the most desperate team in any of this. As badly as App and GSU want to move up, it would be more devastating for NMSU to get kicked down to FCS then it would be for us to stay here. NMSU has to join a conference and they have to do it fast, so I think they are doing everything possible to make that happen.

You can take it as a bad sign for App that we were not involved in these emails, but I can tell you that our AD and President have zero interest in being in a conference with New Mexico State. If they did anything involving New Mexico State, it would be actively trying to keep them out of a conference with us. We want a conference that is as geographically tight as possible, and New Mexico State does not fit that profile.

Why would Georgia Southern care to side up with New Mexico State over App? They are not moving the needle at all for the GSU fan base. For the GSU people who might be on the fence about moving to FBS or staying FCS, joining with App State will excite them much more than New Mexico State (same goes for the App side). Everything about this screams that NMSU is doing everything humanly possible to join the Sun Belt, and I don't think it is going to be enough.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

The .gif file, genius.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo3dcMUVAG4

[citdog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo3dcMUVAG4


one of my favorites! thanks for posting! I like this one too.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Ees0HMS8I

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

I'm flattered you think that 2 point win over GSU was better than "The Shock at the Rock". xthumbsupx

[CID1990]

I'm flattered you think that 2 point win over GSU was better than "The Shock at the Rock". xthumbsupx

GSU was the best team in the SoCon this year and most people felt that going in. So I'd say the GSU win was bigger (but the ASU win was sweeter- you'd think someone yelled fire the way KBS emptied out in the 3rd).

[citdog]

I'm flattered you think that 2 point win over GSU was better than "The Shock at the Rock". xthumbsupx


WHO has been to the National Semifinals every year recently?


so yes beating you is better than beating appy.


BOTH of your tears taste salty.

[seantaylor]

I would not be completely surprised if ASU gets left out. ASU would be somewhat of an outlier in the Sunbelt, especially if WKU leaves. NMSU would also be an outlier, but would probably be football-only so teams wouldn't have to fly their tennis and volleyball teams around.

My personal feeling is that ASU is better prepared for the jump, but GSU is a better fit for the Sunbelt.



If the Sunbelt chooses to add 4 teams, then ASU would be OK.

Lets be real, now. Appy is no longer a better fit than GSU. When Sammy Baker was here, yeah. Now, GSU is again the class of the Socon, the biggest school in the conference, and Tommy Killer is a true guinea.

[seantaylor]

GSU was the best team in the SoCon this year and most people felt that going in. So I'd say the GSU win was bigger (but the ASU win was sweeter- you'd think someone yelled fire the way KBS emptied out in the 3rd).

Program defining win for El Chit. McKinnon was not yet the starting QB. And, oh the pass interference call. Good ole boy from Goose Creek

[CID1990]

Program defining win for El Chit. McKinnon was not yet the starting QB. And, oh the pass interference call. Good ole boy from Goose Creek

The only defining thing about you and half your fans is blaming the refs.

Get over yourself, our FBS wins and wins over Marshall were more program defining. You guys this year were just the latest in a long line of teams to come in to JHS and get embarrassed.

[CID1990]

Program defining win for El Chit. McKinnon was not yet the starting QB. And, oh the pass interference call. Good ole boy from Goose Creek

The only defining thing about you and half your fans is blaming the refs.

Get over yourself, our FBS wins and wins over Marshall were more program defining. You guys this year were just the latest in a long line of teams to come in to JHS and get embarrassed.

[ASUMountaineer]

Nothing more than what we already knew. xrolleyesx

Probably isn't going to matter in the grand scheme of things, but people need to mind their own ******* business and let these things work themselves out. xnodx

Public school admins should use personal emails, not work emails, if they don't want to information made available through FOIA.

[eaglewraith]

In fairness, that PI call was borderline at best.

But what really lost us that game was turning it over inside of our own 30 twice. Other than that Citadel had a minimal number of drives that drove the length of the field, and even then they ended in FG's.

[ASUMountaineer]

if I was an app st person i'd file a FOIA request to find out what happened to my defense against The Citadel and Wofford. witness protection?

That would be more interesting than ascertaining why Citadel can't win the conference or make the playoffs. xnodx

[ASUMountaineer]

these two could be meeting up to discuss how to best 'realign' one anothers schmeckles into their bunghole.

Doubtful, Citadel isn't involved.

[Appaholic]

these two could be meeting up to discuss how to best 'realign' one anothers schmeckles into their bunghole.

Says the alumni of a school who fought to keep women OUT of it's college experience....

[citdog]

Says the alumni of a school who fought to keep women OUT of it's college experience....



APPAHOLIC! FINALLY AN EQUAL COMBATANT IS UPON THE FIELD!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Tj-Xo_eqI

[CID1990]

Says the alumni of a school who fought to keep women OUT of it's college experience....

Holy ***** he ain't dead!

[ncguitarplyr]

4th and final article on the FOIA request, hope you enjoyed reading!

EXCLUSIVE: E-Mails From the MAC & Sun Belt’s Commissioners Project Conference Realignment Pause
http://www.appstatenation.com/2013/02/04/exclusive-e-mails-from-the-mac-sun-belts-commissioners-project-conference-realignment-pause/

[CID1990]

This reminds me of Cletus and Corky fighting over the last burnt tater tot.

[citdog]

so after this GROUNDBREAKING report what did we find out?

NOtHING!


deep throat you ain't

[Laker]

deep throat you ain't

17541

No, but this one is- Linda Lovelace herself!

[ncguitarplyr]

It was covered by NBCSports.com and is being discussed on at least 25 different message boards. Nothing my ***.

Haters gonna hate.

[citdog]

It was covered by NBCSports.com and is being discussed on at least 25 different message boards. Nothing my ***.

Haters gonna hate.


not hating.....


why so sensitive?


it seems that this whole episode was touted as a big reveal and all we got was






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xOoH-SeqoE

[walliver]

not hating.....


why so sensitive?


it seems that this whole episode was touted as a big reveal and all we got was





...

What we learned:

1) Don't e-mail Georgia Southern if you don't want the contents revealed.
2) Marking a document "confidential" doesn't make it so.
3) Current SunBelt members are too busy prostituting themselves to CUSA to worry about new members.

[PaladinFan]

What we learned:

1) Don't e-mail Georgia Southern if you don't want the contents revealed.
2) Marking a document "confidential" doesn't make it so.
3) Current SunBelt members are too busy prostituting themselves to CUSA to worry about new members.

That may be about it.

[ASUMountaineer]

so after this GROUNDBREAKING report what did we find out?

NOtHING!


deep throat you ain't

If you had used Caps Lock, that wouldn't have happened. xnodx

[CID1990]

4. GSU would rather travel all the way to New Mexico every other season than play ASU every year.

[Skjellyfetti]

1) Don't e-mail Georgia Southern if you don't want the contents revealed.
2) Marking a document "confidential" doesn't make it so.

It's not so much that Georgia Southern doesn't keep things confidential that are supposed to be confidential... it has more to do with state and federal laws ensuring public access of government records.



And, responses like "people need to mind their own ******* business" are shortsighted... as all government business is OUR business. And the more transparency we have in government (whether it concerns conference realignment, to budget talks, etc. ) is ultimately a good thing.

[citdog]

It's not so much that Georgia Southern doesn't keep things confidential that are supposed to be confidential... it has more to do with state and federal laws ensuring public access of government records.



And, responses like "people need to mind their own ******* business" are shortsighted... as all government business is OUR business. And the more transparency we have in government (whether it concerns conference realignment, to budget talks, etc. ) is ultimately a good thing.


yet you supported the LEAST transparent president since Nixon.


http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003451325/1933590437_4851210507_ObamaWhisper_answer_1_xlarge _xlarge.jpeg

[CID1990]

yet you supported the LEAST transparent president since Nixon.


http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003451325/1933590437_4851210507_ObamaWhisper_answer_1_xlarge _xlarge.jpeg

Yep. Says the guy who is conspicuously silent about the rules and guidelines by which the President can order the death of American citizens without due process. Rules that we would not be privy to if they had not been leaked.

[DoWe]

Is this the politics forum around this joint?

[CID1990]

Is this the politics forum around this joint?

It usually degenerates to that the the minute Felchyfetty shows up.

[citdog]

Is this the politics forum around this joint?


you got one?


http://ranqer.com/photo2/large/3d54a4bd54f7bfeac015a1affeee1246/matthew-mcconaughey/watch-matthew-mcconaughey-reprises-david-wooderson-from-dazed.jpg



It'd be a lot cooler if you did....man

[DoWe]

Then let me caution both of you Citadel folks, he is the Commander in Chief. No respect for him = no respect for you.

[CID1990]

Then let me caution both of you Citadel folks, he is the Commander in Chief. No respect for him = no respect for you.

Tangent much, Spock?

[citdog]

Then let me caution both of you Citadel folks, he is the Commander in Chief. No respect for him = no respect for you.


I don't currently have to follow orders emanating from 1600 Penn ave. I am a private citizen and am free to hold WHATEVER ****ING POLITICAL OPINION I DESIRE.

[CID1990]

I don't currently have to follow orders emanating from 1600 Penn ave. I am a private citizen and am free to hold WHATEVER ****ING POLITICAL OPINION I DESIRE.

Ohh now I get it.

DoMe is threatening to withdraw his respect.

Fcuk!

[Skjellyfetti]

I don't currently have to follow orders emanating from 1600 Penn ave. I am a private citizen and am free to hold WHATEVER ****ING POLITICAL OPINION I DESIRE.

Nope. It's none of your business. ;)

[DoWe]

toy soldiers you both are.

[citdog]

toy soldiers you both are.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvdLovAaYzM

[Baldy]

And, responses like "people need to mind their own ******* business" are shortsighted... as all government business is OUR business. And the more transparency we have in government (whether it concerns conference realignment, to budget talks, etc. ) is ultimately a good thing.
No public funds go toward athletics at Georgia Southern, so it is none your ******* business.

[ASUMountaineer]

Then let me caution both of you Citadel folks, he is the Commander in Chief. No respect for him = no respect for you.

xlolx

[fc97]

No public funds go toward athletics at Georgia Southern, so it is none your ******* business.

on one hand, i agree with you. being that this is georgia and it is georgia funds, then foia shouldn't apply to a citizen outside the state unless information is provided to a georgia resident and then transferred to an out of state person. what interest does a nc resident have in the dealing of georgia government entities.

on the other hand, i disagree with you. the athletic department takes government funds. the funds are all handled by a government entity for student fees and other such items though private donations may not be. because these funds are taken and transferred, it makes it funded by the government by definition. even then, the athletics department is a daughter department of a public entity and therefore should have the same transparency as the rest of the government, to residents of that state.

[Apphole]

on one hand, i agree with you. being that this is georgia and it is georgia funds, then foia shouldn't apply to a citizen outside the state unless information is provided to a georgia resident and then transferred to an out of state person. what interest does a nc resident have in the dealing of georgia government entities.
The writer/creator of Appstatenation.com is a resident of Atlanta, Ga.

[ASUMountaineer]

The writer/creator of Appstatenation.com is a resident of Atlanta, Ga.

DOH! xlolx

[Apphole]

DOH! xlolx

Guess now we know why he hasn't gotten one from ASU xlolx

[ASUMountaineer]

Guess now we know why he hasn't gotten one from ASU xlolx

If so...paging asumike!

[fc97]

The writer/creator of Appstatenation.com is a resident of Atlanta, Ga.

then done deal, the gsu fan is incorrect and that person has every right to the data and every right to do anything with it! so nothing to whine about, right?

i was more responding to the absurdity of the gsu fan saying an app fan has no business to the information, which in every point of this, is completely false. resident of georgia and athletics are part of a government organization means that everything is out in the open.

also to the point of using private email accounts to do this. court decisions have shown that, if those are used at work they are subject to the same foia laws and can be cracked open..... so..... well that's that

[seantaylor]

Atlanta,Georgia is a ish hole.

[dgtw]

Does Georgia Southern receive any federal funds?

[Baldy]

Guess now we know why he hasn't gotten one from ASU xlolx
And probably won't.