Sagarin Rankings

[darell1976]

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkc1213.htm
Big Sky:

126 Weber State = 75.35 11 5 68.80( 327) 0 0 | 0 1 | 74.26 144 | 76.35 113
147 Montana = 73.99 12 4 69.54( 312) 0 0 | 0 2 | 74.28 142 | 73.58 152
256 Sacramento State = 66.72 8 8 67.84( 342) 0 0 | 0 0 | 66.48 257 | 66.83 254
268 Northern Colorado = 66.18 3 13 71.43( 227) 0 0 | 0 2 | 65.48 281 | 66.71 258
271 North Dakota = 65.90 6 11 70.04( 294) 0 0 | 0 1 | 65.92 272 | 65.76 270
283 Portland State = 65.30 3 11 70.97( 250) 0 0 | 0 2 | 64.47 294 | 65.94 268
284 Montana State = 65.25 7 9 68.01( 339) 0 0 | 0 0 | 64.67 290 | 65.68 272
299 Southern Utah = 64.48 5 12 70.24( 286) 0 1 | 0 1 | 64.44 295 | 64.39 296
311 Eastern Washington = 63.32 4 15 70.28( 283) 0 0 | 0 1 | 62.76 314 | 63.72 306
312 Northern Arizona = 63.29 7 13 71.09( 241) 0 1 | 0 5 | 63.81 302 | 62.60 317
324 Idaho State = 61.36 3 15 70.92( 254) 0 0 | 0 1 | 61.48 324 | 61.11 323

[Laker]

When I see that there are currently 347 D1 teams, with three more coming in- Abilene Christian, Grand Canyon and Incarnate Word- it makes me think that 350 is too many. Way too many.

[darell1976]

When I see that there are currently 347 D1 teams, with three more coming in- Abilene Christian, Grand Canyon and Incarnate Word- it makes me think that 350 is too many. Way too many.

Do you think they should have a I-AA in basketball like football? And have an attendance requirement? I know Sac State plays in a building resembling a high school gym.

[bonarae]

When I see that there are currently 347 D1 teams, with three more coming in- Abilene Christian, Grand Canyon and Incarnate Word- it makes me think that 350 is too many. Way too many.

Yes. There are way too many. Division III has around 400-500 but their culture is way too different from Division I's. MIT's men's (which Harvard plays to open or which is scheduled early in the season in the past few years) and Chicago's women's (this was true only until Roussell was pirated away by Bucknell last year) teams are usually in the top 25% of those teams.

Division II, however, is the "poor guy" in the middle of the conference realignment and transfer controversy. However, they have done their best to salvage their reputation, e.g. allowing Canadian schools to enter the NCAA through them and continuing to pirate away teams from the NAIA and Division III.

[bonarae]

Back to the topic...

Ivy is ranked #19 in the conference rankings and teams are sorted by rank:
19 IVY LEAGUE = 69.67 70.15 ( 18) TEAMS= 8 70.06 ( 18)
College Basketball 2012-2013 Div I games only through 2013 January 26 Saturday
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 25 | VS top 50 | ELO_SCORE | PREDICTOR
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 3.18] [ 3.11] [ 3.52]
94 Princeton = 78.19 7 7 74.59( 82) 0 1 | 0 1 | 77.88 94 | 78.39 88
96 Harvard = 78.10 9 6 74.20( 98) 0 0 | 0 3 | 77.98 92 | 78.11 93
172 Columbia = 72.56 7 7 70.51( 276) 0 0 | 0 0 | 72.12 176 | 72.89 167
223 Cornell = 68.63 8 10 71.50( 222) 0 2 | 0 2 | 68.88 216 | 68.25 227
237 Yale = 67.76 5 12 74.29( 93) 0 1 | 0 3 | 67.14 245 | 68.25 228
252 Pennsylvania = 66.93 3 15 74.67( 79) 0 0 | 0 1 | 66.17 265 | 67.52 243
269 Brown = 65.99 6 9 70.63( 267) 0 0 | 0 1 | 65.79 277 | 66.06 263
314 Dartmouth = 63.05 3 12 71.44( 225) 0 0 | 0 0 | 62.04 318 | 63.83 305

The blowout at Memphis impacted us too much... xsmhx

[darell1976]

Yes. There are way too many. Division III has around 400-500 but their culture is way too different from Division I's. MIT's men's (which Harvard plays to open or which is scheduled early in the season in the past few years) and Chicago's women's (this was true only until Roussell was pirated away by Bucknell last year) teams are usually in the top 25% of those teams.

Division II, however, is the "poor guy" in the middle of the conference realignment and transfer controversy. However, they have done their best to salvage their reputation, e.g. allowing Canadian schools to enter the NCAA through them and continuing to pirate away teams from the NAIA and Division III.

I think if you can't put at least 1000 fans in the seats you shouldn't have a DI basketball team. Sac State has just over 600.

[bonarae]

I think if you can't put at least 1000 fans in the seats you shouldn't have a DI basketball team. Sac State has just over 600.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2012.pdf

According to that link above, some DI schools (both reclassifying and permanent) still average three digits in home attendance. No wonder why they don't advance much in basketball... xreadx

[darell1976]

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2012.pdf

According to that link above, some DI schools (both reclassifying and permanent) still average three digits in home attendance. No wonder why they don't advance much in basketball... xreadx

That was from last season. I can't find attendance for all schools for this season but here it is from the Big Sky:

http://www.bigskyconf.com/custompages/mbball/2012/stats/confldrs.htm#conf.wkt

Weber State 6103
Montana 3809
Southern Utah 2634
MSU 2346
ISU 1872
UND 1572
UNC 1198
NAU 1031
EWU 915
PSU 907
Sac St 646

[Twentysix]

That was from last season. I can't find attendance for all schools for this season but here it is from the Big Sky:

http://www.bigskyconf.com/custompages/mbball/2012/stats/confldrs.htm#conf.wkt

Weber State 6103
Montana 3809
Southern Utah 2634
MSU 2346
ISU 1872
UND 1572
UNC 1198
NAU 1031
EWU 915
PSU 907
Sac St 646

Looks like NDSU playing in El forko grande upped your average by 500 last year.

[darell1976]

Looks like NDSU playing in El forko grande upped your average by 500 last year.

That and UND having a winning record and a conference title did help too. With UND playing better and in 4th place attendance should be a little better.