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darell1976
November 30th, 2012, 09:34 AM
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkc1213.htm
1 BIG TEN = 84.49 84.46 ( 1) 12 84.50 ( 1)
2 BIG EAST = 82.41 82.72 ( 2) 15 82.64 ( 2)
3 BIG 12 = 82.37 81.84 ( 4) 10 82.07 ( 4)
4 ATLANTIC COAST = 82.22 82.19 ( 3) 12 82.21 ( 3)
5 PAC-12 = 80.61 80.24 ( 5) 12 80.30 ( 5)
6 MOUNTAIN WEST = 79.81 79.66 ( 7) 9 79.68 ( 7)
7 SOUTHEASTERN = 79.67 80.18 ( 6) 14 79.99 ( 6)
8 ATLANTIC 10 = 78.06 77.84 ( 8) 16 77.92 ( 8)
9 MISSOURI VALLEY = 75.80 76.19 ( 9) 10 76.08 ( 9)
10 WEST COAST = 75.13 75.83 ( 10) 9 75.42 ( 10)
11 CONFERENCE USA = 74.39 74.85 ( 11) 12 74.80 ( 11)
12 HORIZON = 73.21 73.24 ( 12) 9 73.22 ( 12)
13 WESTERN ATHLETIC = 71.98 71.90 ( 13) 10 71.91 ( 13)
14 BIG WEST = 71.45 71.15 ( 15) 10 71.25 ( 14)
15 COLONIAL = 70.82 71.19 ( 14) 11 71.12 ( 15)
16 METRO ATLANTIC = 70.75 70.93 ( 16) 10 70.91 ( 16)
17 MID-AMERICAN = 70.67 70.86 ( 17) 12 70.80 ( 17)
18 SUN BELT = 70.44 70.80 ( 18) 11 70.65 ( 18)
19 OHIO VALLEY = 69.31 69.75 ( 20) 12 69.56 ( 20)
20 PATRIOT = 69.08 69.86 ( 19) 8 69.63 ( 19)
21 ATLANTIC SUN = 68.62 68.08 ( 23) 10 68.22 ( 23)
22 SUMMIT LEAGUE = 68.41 68.59 ( 21) 9 68.60 ( 21)
23 NORTHEAST = 68.27 67.97 ( 24) 12 68.00 ( 24)
24 IVY LEAGUE = 68.17 68.58 ( 22) 8 68.50 ( 22)
25 AMERICA EAST = 67.67 67.59 ( 25) 9 67.66 ( 25)
26 BIG SKY = 67.25 67.37 ( 27) 11 67.35 ( 26)
27 SOUTHERN = 67.04 67.43 ( 26) 12 67.31 ( 27)
28 SOUTHLAND = 66.78 67.36 ( 28) 10 67.26 ( 28)
29 BIG SOUTH = 65.84 65.31 ( 29) 12 65.42 ( 29)
30 MID-EASTERN = 63.70 63.64 ( 30) 13 63.64 ( 30)
31 INDEPENDENTS = 62.54 62.54 ( 31) 2 62.54 ( 31)
32 SOUTHWESTERN = 60.83 60.66 ( 32) 10 60.69 ( 32)
33 GREAT WEST = 60.33 60.50 ( 33) 5 60.49 ( 33)
darell1976
November 30th, 2012, 09:35 AM
26 BIG SKY = 67.25 67.37 ( 27) TEAMS= 11 67.35 ( 26)
College Basketball 2012-2013 through 2012 November 29 Thursday
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 25 | VS top 50 | ELO_SCORE | PREDICTOR
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 3.94] [ 3.79] [ 3.86]
138 Montana = 73.63 2 2 77.60( 56) 0 0 | 0 2 | 74.04 135 | 72.99 147
141 Weber State = 73.49 1 2 77.88( 49) 0 0 | 0 0 | 73.52 141 | 73.22 145
221 Northern Colorado = 69.13 0 3 78.33( 36) 0 0 | 0 1 | 68.75 222 | 69.28 217
239 North Dakota = 67.87 0 4 81.45( 14) 0 0 | 0 1 | 69.33 217 | 65.98 272
247 Sacramento State = 67.45 3 1 66.89( 315) 0 0 | 0 0 | 66.28 266 | 68.32 228
249 Portland State = 67.43 0 3 83.05( 4) 0 1 | 0 1 | 67.76 240 | 66.86 251
256 Eastern Washington = 66.85 1 5 75.98( 80) 0 0 | 0 0 | 66.98 252 | 66.48 262
279 Northern Arizona = 65.57 2 4 78.18( 40) 0 1 | 0 2 | 66.80 256 | 63.89 299
284 Montana State = 65.41 1 4 72.47( 182) 0 0 | 0 0 | 64.31 291 | 66.18 266
312 Idaho State = 62.75 0 5 72.19( 196) 0 0 | 0 0 | 61.57 317 | 63.56 303
318 Southern Utah = 61.50 0 5 78.11( 41) 0 1 | 0 1 | 62.07 313 | 60.60 325
Twentysix
November 30th, 2012, 10:41 AM
92 North Dakota State = 77.78 4 2 73.61( 149) 0 1 | 0 1 | 76.90 98 | 78.47 85
I dig yo, totally called being under 100. #1 in the summit!
darell1976
November 30th, 2012, 11:00 AM
92 North Dakota State = 77.78 4 2 73.61( 149) 0 1 | 0 1 | 76.90 98 | 78.47 85
I dig yo, totally called being under 100. #1 in the summit!
Looks like a 3 man race in the Summit...NDSU, SDSU and Oakland.
Twentysix
November 30th, 2012, 11:09 AM
Looks like a 3 man race in the Summit...NDSU, SDSU and Oakland.
Yeah checkout pitt's lineup so far http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/221/pittsburgh-panthers
Oakland gave them their best game, took them to OT, outside #4 Michigan.
darell1976
November 30th, 2012, 11:13 AM
Yeah checkout pitt's lineup so far http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/221/pittsburgh-panthers
Oakland gave them their best game, took them to OT, outside #4 Michigan.
That's going to hurt Pitt when they play big name teams. Oakland is always tough but now the Dakota's are up there with them. Too bad we can't play each other in the dance it would be like old times. Is this NDSU team as good as the Woodside team? Seems like you guys did good in OOC games so far.
Twentysix
November 30th, 2012, 11:18 AM
That's going to hurt Pitt when they play big name teams. Oakland is always tough but now the Dakota's are up there with them. Too bad we can't play each other in the dance it would be like old times. Is this NDSU team as good as the Woodside team? Seems like you guys did good in OOC games so far.
It's drastically different. It is a head and shoulders more athletic team. The # of blocks and dunks is off the chart by comparison. The team is also about 5-6" taller on avg. We pretty much run one or two guys that are around 6'3" and the rest are 6'7"-6'9". Some of our bench players bring the average down, but I suspect they will play less as the games get more serious.
12 Lawrence Alexander G 6-3 175 So. Peoria, Ill. (St. John's NW Military Academy) (Manual HS)
3 Mike Felt G 6-3 185 Jr. Redwood Falls, Minn. (Redwood Valley HS)
22 Kory Brown G 6-4 190 Fr. Hoffman Estates, Ill. (Elgin HS)
4 Tanner Harris G 6-4 195 Jr. Bismarck, N.D. (St. Mary's Central HS)
21 Jamie Mauch F 6-4 230 Sr. Mooreton, N.D. (NDSCS/Wisconsin-Stevens Point) (Hankinson HS)
23 Brett VandenBergh F 6-5 210 Fr. De Pere, Wis. (De Pere HS)
40 Dexter Werner F 6-6 240 Fr. Bismarck, N.D. (Bismarck HS)
24 Taylor Braun G 6-7 205 Jr. Newberg, Ore. (Newberg HS)
32 TrayVonn Wright F 6-7 180 Jr. Waterloo, Iowa (Waterloo West HS)
42 Marshall Bjorklund F 6-8 240 Jr. Arlington, Minn. (Sibley East HS)
34 Chris Kading F 6-8 220 RFr. De Pere, Wis. (De Pere HS)
44 Jordan Aaberg F 6-9 225 Jr. Rothsay, Minn. (Rothsay HS)
Bold are typical starters with felt and kading being potential starters but not typically.
bonarae
November 30th, 2012, 05:50 PM
Some optimism over on the Ivies, but that'll change later when we play much tougher opponents... xchinscratchx
24 IVY LEAGUE = 68.17 68.58 ( 22) TEAMS= 8 68.50 ( 22)
College Basketball 2012-2013 through 2012 November 29 Thursday
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 25 | VS top 50 | ELO_SCORE | PREDICTOR
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 3.94] [ 3.79] [ 3.86]
94 Harvard = 77.67 1 3 77.81( 52) 0 1 | 0 1 | 77.15 96 | 77.98 89
119 Princeton = 75.55 2 4 74.44( 122) 0 1 | 0 1 | 75.25 118 | 75.61 115
163 Columbia = 72.49 2 3 73.15( 164) 0 0 | 0 0 | 72.40 162 | 72.34 168
252 Cornell = 67.16 3 5 68.79( 283) 0 0 | 0 1 | 66.54 259 | 67.53 243
262 Pennsylvania = 66.45 2 5 68.58( 288) 0 0 | 0 0 | 65.48 275 | 67.13 248
292 Brown = 64.55 3 3 64.58( 337) 0 0 | 0 0 | 63.90 296 | 64.93 286
297 Yale = 64.22 2 6 71.52( 222) 0 1 | 0 1 | 63.29 301 | 64.85 289
325 Dartmouth = 60.60 1 3 65.06( 330) 0 0 | 0 0 | 58.54 333 | 61.95 318
Twentysix
November 30th, 2012, 08:23 PM
Some optimism over on the Ivies, but that'll change later when we play much tougher opponents... xchinscratchx
Harvards mens team should have come with their womens team. Harvard @ NDSU for MBB would be neat.
darell1976
December 19th, 2012, 05:02 PM
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkc1213.htm
UND now plummeting in the rankings at #317 (second to last in the BSC) only SUU is worse at #338. UND needs some wins. Looks like our neighbors to the south has a lot of success so far. NDSU is at #56. Saul has that team on high. If UND keeps getting further behind then recruiting may become tougher unless Brian Jones recruits in a different region than Saul Phillips.
frozennorth
December 19th, 2012, 07:25 PM
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkc1213.htm
UND now plummeting in the rankings at #317 (second to last in the BSC) only SUU is worse at #338. UND needs some wins. Looks like our neighbors to the south has a lot of success so far. NDSU is at #56. Saul has that team on high. If UND keeps getting further behind then recruiting may become tougher unless Brian Jones recruits in a different region than Saul Phillips.
bro. use predictor.
ngineer
December 23rd, 2012, 10:13 PM
Lehigh is rising in the ranks. Patriot League will come down to Bucknell and Lehigh battling it out; however, this is one rare year that the runner-up could make an at large bid....where have I heard that before?
Twentysix
December 24th, 2012, 04:06 PM
Has the patriot ever had an atlarge before?
ngineer
December 25th, 2012, 11:19 PM
Has the patriot ever had an atlarge before?
No. Last year some thought Bucknell should have received serious consideration, but they ended up in the NIT and pulled off a nice 'upset' out in Arizona. Their 'big guy' Muscala is a force and has good support. The games between Lehigh and Bucknell last year were real wars. Same expected this year.
813Jag
December 26th, 2012, 02:17 PM
Jags #154 almost 100 places higher than the second SWAC school
Twentysix
December 27th, 2012, 06:29 AM
No. Last year some thought Bucknell should have received serious consideration, but they ended up in the NIT and pulled off a nice 'upset' out in Arizona. Their 'big guy' Muscala is a force and has good support. The games between Lehigh and Bucknell last year were real wars. Same expected this year.
Interesting, I don't believe the Summit/midcon has ever had an at-large either. There has been speculation a few times that if the right team lost in the championship game of the tournament they could get an atlarge. Usually that team has won the championship anyway. I have no idea if the committee would have considered these teams, this is just from fans perspectives.
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