Colgate at Wagner, Mr. C's Official Game Thread

[Mr. C]

Wagner is doing a great job of running clock and matriculating the ball down the field. Run to the 40.

[aceinthehole]

Wagner needs a score here to break their backs.

It is a close game and 'Gate is right in this.

[Mr. C]

Wright slashes to the 35. 3rd and 3 after a 6-yard run.

[danefan]

Mr. C is hoping for good traffic to Long Island for part two of his doubleheader as he makes the 70-mile trip to Stony Brook.

Good luck with that!

[aceinthehole]

Wagner is doing a great job of running clock and matriculating the ball down the field. Run to the 40.

That's certainly NEC Football

[Mr. C]

Doscher first down pass to the TE at the 30. 13 minutes left in this one.

[Pards Rule]

Use Belt to Van Wyk to LIE..Best choice Mr C my friend!

[Twentysix]

Here is to a complete lack of scoring from here on out, I have this game as 24-14 Wagner win.

[Mr. C]

Big holes to cut back on for Williams. 14 carries, 87 yards after this five-yard run.

[Mr. C]

Williams for 4 more to the 21. 3rd and 1.

[Mr. C]

Wright slams to the first down at the 18. 11 minutes left. 10 plays, 56 yards thus far on the drive.

[Mr. C]

Williams goes outside on the zone read to the 12.

[danefan]

NEC football right here.

Bore your opponent to death.

[Mr. C]

7 minutes used on this drive.

[Mr. C]

Doscher first-down run to the six.

[aceinthehole]

NEC football right here.

Bore your opponent to death.

Aren't you going to miss it ;)

[danefan]

Great play call.

Great throw.

[Mr. C]

Fade route to David Crawford for the TD. 13 plays, 74 yards.

[aceinthehole]

What a drive 7+ minutes for the TD!

[danefan]

Aren't you going to miss it ;)

No. We cant play defense so we'll fit right in in the CAA.

[Mr. C]

Wagner 31, Colgate 14, 9:15 left.

And I'm on the road to Stony Brook.

[md64179]

What a drive by Wagner. That score makes it hard for Colgate to get back in the game

[Lehigh'98]

That will do it I believe. Great game from Wagner

[TheValleyRaider]

Really up against it now

[CFBfan]

Gate hasn't had a D all year but never thought their O would choke

[busybee14]

Hurry up clock!!!!!

[Pards Rule]

Wagner 31, Colgate 14, 9:15 left.

And I'm on the road to Stony Brook.

Follow the directions I gave you two pages ago!

[aceinthehole]

Doscher just got much better over his career at Wagner. He used to throw tons of picks and really didn't let the game come to him. Forced too much.

Now, it is like having a coach on the field. I saw this potential from Wagner a few years ago - glad it became a reality.

[SingForever]

Now BIDDLE CAN EITHER WIDDLE OR PLAY WITH HIS FIDDLE!

[danefan]

Gate hasn't had a D all year but never thought their O would choke

Wagner defense caused it.

McCarney threw one bad Int, but all of the fumbles were true forced fumbles.

[Pards Rule]

And congrats Seahawks on your first I-AA playoff win! I assume Bill Russo (former Lafayette HC direct from HC at Wagner way back in 1981) was there?

[danefan]

Doscher just got much better over his career at Wagner. He used to throw tons of picks and really didn't let the game come to him. Forced too much.

Now, it is like having a coach on the field. I saw this potential from Wagner a few years ago - glad it became a reality.

Big difference for Wagner this year was staying healthy. They were destroyed by injuries every year until this.

[Seahawks Fan]

Doscher came up big today.

[aceinthehole]

I'll be honest: I think Colgate wins by more than three scores.

Homer, why would you have thought this? D'oh :)

[aceinthehole]

Big difference for Wagner this year was staying healthy. They were destroyed by injuries every year until this.

True! They aren't very deep, so they need everyone they've got to be healthy.

[Sader87]

This game isn't quite over....just sayin'

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I cannot begin to express how disappointed I am in Colgate today.

[aceinthehole]

Colgate needs to air it out and score quick. Rushing isn't going to get it done.

[busybee14]

Big girl is warming up the pipes!

[WileECoyote06]

If they hold on to win, congrats to the Wagner faithful. What a great win for your program!

[Nickels]

Colgate is doing everything in can to lose this game.

[SingForever]

I cannot begin to express how disappointed I am in Colgate today.The wrong team represented the PL today. Once again I say, and it is true beyond a doubt, The roughing the punter penalty by Lehigh in the first half is the reason. Simply the truth, so don't give me a hard time.

[BisonFan02]

Colgate looked very much like the team that lost to South Dakota....

[kalm]

I cannot begin to express how disappointed I am in Colgate today.

Maybe the PL's A.L. will fare better. xthumbsupx

[busybee14]

It will ne a big day also for the NEC

[danefan]

Colgate is going to make this interesting!

[Twentysix]

The wrong team represented the PL today. Once again I say, and it is true beyond a doubt, The roughing the punter penalty by Lehigh in the first half is the reason. Simply the truth, so don't give me a hard time.

Perhaps the PL simply was not good this year...

[Twentysix]

Colgate looked very much like the team that lost to South Dakota....

Must spread rep.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I cannot begin to express how disappointed I am in Colgate today.

Wagner > Colgate > Lehigh, but Lehigh would still beat EWU, AMIRIGHT!!!?


Sorry for being a dick, had to take my obligatory shot at the Patriot. xcoffeex

[aceinthehole]

Nice drive by 'gate. Misssed PAT may come back to haunt them - now need 2 tuchdowns

They need to recover the onsides kick

[TheValleyRaider]

Down the field for a quick score, but missed the XP. Probably too early for the onside attempt, but a couple of first downs would finish this one off

[danefan]

The wrong team represented the PL today. Once again I say, and it is true beyond a doubt, The roughing the punter penalty by Lehigh in the first half is the reason. Simply the truth, so don't give me a hard time.

FWIW (nothing) I still think Wagner is the 2nd best team in the NEC.

Remember what Albany did to Colgate. xnodx

[CFBfan]

The wrong team represented the PL today. Once again I say, and it is true beyond a doubt, The roughing the punter penalty by Lehigh in the first half is the reason. Simply the truth, so don't give me a hard time.

NO! THE Reason is Lehigh LOST bone head!!!!

[danefan]

Like I said. gate making this interesting!

[CFBfan]

FWIW (nothing) I still think Wagner is the 2nd best team in the NEC.

Remember what Albany did to Colgate. xnodx

If we're going down that road, Georgetown beat Wagner!! totaly shut then down!!!

[BisonBohl]

Good game Colgate, thanks for playing.

[danefan]

If we're going down that road, Georgetown beat Wagner!! totaly shut then down!!!

Yup. Like I said. Wagner has played great so far today and played even better at Albany.

Here's to hoping they can play an even batter game next week (if they make it).

[aceinthehole]

FWIW (nothing) I still think Wagner is the 2nd best team in the NEC.

Remember what Albany did to Colgate. xnodx

wagner is doing the same :) Wagner is very impressive this year!

[Sader87]

This game is still not over...it's close but not quite

[danefan]

Great call and great use of replay. Quick and concise and correct.

[CFBfan]

Yup. Like I said. Wagner has played great so far today and played even better at Albany.

Here's to hoping they can play an even batter game next week (if they make it).

that's gonna be a tough game and on that hideous red turf

[344Johnson]

So....i haven't read through this thread, have any lehigh fans been discussing how Colgate was/is a quality team?

[danefan]

that's gonna be a tough game and on that hideous red turf
I'm looking forward to seeing what the defense can do against a reall top FCS offense. It will be the best they've seen this year.

[SingForever]

NO! THE Reason is Lehigh LOST bone head!!!!

AND THE REASON THaT HAPPENED IS BECAUSE OFROUGHING THE PUNTER, stupid.l LEHIGH WOULD HAVE BEEN UP 24-0 AT THE HALF. I know it's "water over the damn, but it's the truth. Don't you know anything about football?

[busybee14]

I hope im one of the few that picked wagner for my bracket?

[Lehigh'98]

This thread /game has little to do with Lehigh and frankly it's taking away from a great win for Wagner. All credit to their defense and ball control

[aceinthehole]

Wagner's defense has only given up more than 28 points in 2 games (38 vs. Monmmouth and 30 vs. Holy Cross). They held FBS Florida Atlantic (with 40+ more schollys) to 7 points and shutout Albany.

On offense, the Sehawks have scored 30+ in 5 of their 11 games. I think 'Gate is in for a tough game on all sides of the ball.

LFN - Wagner scored more than 30 and allowed less than 28. That's a lot closer than your prediction of a 3 TD Colagte win. xblehx

Colgate - 20
Wagner - 31

[SingForever]

SMILE BIDDLE! xblehx

[CFBfan]

AND THE REASON THaT HAPPENED IS BECAUSE OFROUGHING THE PUNTER, stupid.l LEHIGH WOULD HAVE BEEN UP 24-0 AT THE HALF. I know it's "water over the damn, but it's the truth. Don't you know anything about football?

Dude YOUR Lehigh did that and it's a part of the game, if my aunt had a male organ she'd be my uncle BUT she doesn't

[danefan]

So....i haven't read through this thread, have any lehigh fans been discussing how Colgate was/is a quality team?

Only before the game started.....


I'll be honest: I think Colgate wins by more than three scores.

Nothing since Wagner took the lead in the first quarter and never looked back.

[DFW HOYA]

If we're going down that road, Georgetown beat Wagner!! totaly shut then down!!!

Final was 13-10. Georgetown was on its second of five QB's used this season.

[LUHawker]

Sorry for being a dick

Guess you can't change who you are.

[CFBfan]

AND THE REASON THaT HAPPENED IS BECAUSE OFROUGHING THE PUNTER, stupid.l LEHIGH WOULD HAVE BEEN UP 24-0 AT THE HALF. I know it's "water over the damn, but it's the truth. Don't you know anything about football?

and clearly i know more then you do!

[superman7515]

I hope im one of the few that picked wagner for my bracket?

I picked them to win the game on the AGS Radio Show, hopefully everyone was listening to me and not that Citdog fella or that other MTFan, haha.

[kalm]

that's gonna be a tough game and on that hideous red turf

Hideous? It will probably be the most beautiful thing those kids will see in their entire lives. You should be happy for them!

[SingForever]

CONGRATULATIONS WAGNER. SMART GAME.

[BisonBohl]

But Colgate was a changed team...

No seriously though congrats Wagner and good luck on that hideous turf and dump of a stadium.

[clenz]

Guess you can't change who you are.
Much like LU fans and being whiners?

[SingForever]

SHUT UP

[SingForever]

Much like LU fans and being whiners?SHUT UP! Lehigh 14 Northern Iowa 7. Merry Christmas

[danefan]

Congrats Wagner!

Great win for the NEC. I'm happy for you NEC fans that Wagner represented the league and won.

[aceinthehole]

So....i haven't read through this thread, have any lehigh fans been discussing how Colgate was/is a quality team?

Colgate fans are the classiest in the PL. I feel for them on a tough loss, they deserve better. All the 'gate posters here are very knowledgeable

As for NEC fans, we’ve got a right to gloat. In just our 3rd AQ appearance we win a playoff game. Beating a PL team is just gravy and hopefully it silences some of the more obnoxious Lehigh, Holy Cross and Lafayette fans

[danefan]

Colgate fans are the classiest in the PL. I feel for them on a tough loss, they deserve better. All the 'gate posters here are very knowledgeable

As for NEC fans, we’ve got a right to gloat. In just our 3rd AQ appearance we win a playoff game. Beating a PL team is just gravy and hopefully it silences some of the more obnoxious Lehigh, Holy Cross and Lafayette fans

+100000000

[SingForever]

and clearly i know more then you do!GET LOST. That was the reason Lehigh lost. If you deny that you are blind deaf and dumb.

Case closed

[TheValleyRaider]

Colgate 20
Wagner 31
Final

[dgreco]

Congrats to Wagner and a fantastic win for the NEC!

[aceinthehole]

Congrats Wagner!

Great win for the NEC. I'm happy for you NEC fans that Wagner represented the league and won.

We (NEC fans) needed this bad. As I said, the league has to go on after losing Albany, but I feel we are still in good shape and this win will go a long way in proving that (a will the good efforts by RMU and Albany in previous seasons).

I hope this puts the PL/Ivy/NEC debate to bed once and for all. :)

[RichH2]

Congrats to Wagner. Good luck next round.

Embarassing loss for Gate and PL.

[BisonBohl]

Colgate fans are the classiest in the PL. I feel for them on a tough loss, they deserve better. All the 'gate posters here are very knowledgeable

As for NEC fans, we’ve got a right to gloat. In just our 3rd AQ appearance we win a playoff game. Beating a PL team is just gravy and hopefully it silences some of the more obnoxious Lehigh, Holy Cross and Lafayette fans

Congrats to Wagner and the NEC on the playoff win, they are always fun. I guess im not surprised though, nothing against Colgate but they lost to South Dakota one of worst teams I have seen this year. Anyone who loses to that kind of team probably didn't belong in the playoffs. Patriot fans tried to say it was a changed Colgate team but in reality it was just a team playing in a weak conference.

Good Luck Next Week Wagner!

[busybee14]

Holy Sh$& we won!! Proud of the boys and giving the Nec some cred

[Sader87]

Colgate fans are the classiest in the PL. I feel for them on a tough loss, they deserve better. All the 'gate posters here are very knowledgeable

As for NEC fans, we’ve got a right to gloat. In just our 3rd AQ appearance we win a playoff game. Beating a PL team is just gravy and hopefully it silences some of the more obnoxious Lehigh, Holy Cross and Lafayette fans

Congrats but enjoy it while you can, the PL is going to get a lot better with scholarships going forward.

[kalm]

In all seriousness...congrats to Wagner! Can't wait to see you guys in "Chaney" on "that hideous carpet" next week!

[BisonBohl]

In all seriousness...congrats to Wagner! Can't wait to see you guys in "Chaney" on "that hideous carpet" next week!

No quotations needed, it is what it is.

[Pards Rule]

+100000000

Ouch! I am not obnoxious!

[clenz]

SHUT UP! Lehigh 14 Northern Iowa 7. Merry Christmas
Yup....and your point?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

No quotations needed, it is what it is.

What it is, is bitterness. Yet it tastes so sweet! xblehx xsmiley_wix

[Sader87]

I am....I'm wicked smaaahhht too.

[TheValleyRaider]

Picked the wrong day to make mistakes all over the field. 5 turnovers from McCarney is thoroughly unexpected. Killed a few promising drives and set up the first Wagner score. Mix in a few dropped passes and you wind up struggling like that

Some of that, though, does go to the Wagner defense. Their tackling was exceptional, and you have to actually grab those fumbles to make them count. Doscher had a smart, solid game and when they really needed a play, they got it

Full credit to our defense and special teams. They were the reason we still had a shot heading into the 4th. Never expected to see Specials as the best unit in the game but there you have it

Congratulations Seahawks, and good luck on the red turf. I'll be pulling for you :)

[LehighU11]

Colgate fans are the classiest in the PL. I feel for them on a tough loss, they deserve better. All the 'gate posters here are very knowledgeable

As for NEC fans, we’ve got a right to gloat. In just our 3rd AQ appearance we win a playoff game. Beating a PL team is just gravy and hopefully it silences some of the more obnoxious Lehigh, Holy Cross and Lafayette fans

A good win for Wagner. They deserved it. Colgate happened to play their best game when Lehigh played their worst. Raiders not a very good team in a down year for the PL. Teams without defense can't win in the playoffs, especially when your QB turns the ball over 5 times. I think Wagner could beat EWU at home, but it will be tough to fly across the country and play on that awful red field.

[danefan]

Ouch! I am not obnoxious!
Sorry. Should've taken Lafayette fans out. You and Frank are good dudes.

[profisme]

Yup....and your point?

That has to mean that last year's win counts somehow this year for the Patriot League's strength. Lehigh would have been lucky to finish 2-9 this year with UNI's schedule and most certainly wouldn't have kept it within 2 TD's of each of the Big Ten schools that UNI's AD must have mistakenly scheduled for the same season. Seriously, WTF?!

[Pards Rule]

Sorry. Should've taken Lafayette fans out. You and Frank are good dudes.

Much obliged! Thx Danefan :)

[Screamin_Eagle174]

A good win for Wagner. They deserved it. Colgate happened to play their best game when Lehigh played their worst. Raiders not a very good team in a down year for the PL. Teams without defense can't win in the playoffs, especially when your QB turns the ball over 5 times. I think Wagner could beat EWU at home, but it will be tough to fly across the country and play on that awful red field.

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif

[LehighU11]

In all seriousness...congrats to Wagner! Can't wait to see you guys in "Chaney" on "that hideous carpet" next week!

Hey, I'd be wary of Wagner...coming from Staten Island, they're used to playing in a dump :D

[Seahawks Fan]

Congratulations Wagner Seahawks. Great win today. You made us proud.

[CFBfan]

GET LOST. That was the reason Lehigh lost. If you deny that you are blind deaf and dumb.

Case closed

4 words from your statement are correct: Lehigh lost. Case closed!! now go eat some leftovers and stop crying

[clenz]

That has to mean that last year's win counts somehow this year for the Patriot League's strength. Lehigh would have been lucky to finish 2-9 this year with UNI's schedule and most certainly wouldn't have kept it within 2 TD's of each of the Big Ten schools that UNI's AD must have mistakenly scheduled for the same season. Seriously, WTF?!
Been discussed ad nausium....

The PL is a third tier league. I don't get why their fans can't understand it.

[Gater]

Congrats to Wagner. Their defense really to it to Colgate. They made plays and Colgate's offense made mistakes. It proved to be a lethal combination. Colgate had five turnovers but (I think) fumbled the ball seven times (losing three). This is uncharacteristic of Colgate's offense but maybe they just hadn't seen a defense this good. Colgate's last touchdown drive was what the offense looked like all year. It was a shame that it took a later bus to Staten Island. Good luck to The Wag the rest of the way and congrats on bringing some good news to Staten Island--a place that could certainly use it.

[SingForever]

Colgate fans are the classiest in the PL. I feel for them on a tough loss, they deserve better. All the 'gate posters here are very knowledgeable

As for NEC fans, we’ve got a right to gloat. In just our 3rd AQ appearance we win a playoff game. Beating a PL team is just gravy and hopefully it silences some of the more obnoxious Lehigh, Holy Cross and Lafayette fansSEE YOU NEXT YEAR AND THEREAFTER. I am happy for Wagner and the NEC. I never was obnoxious about the NEC or any NEC team, and I seriously doubt that other Lehigh fans were. Don't insult me with baseless statements. Over the years I have pointed out that the NEC was on its way too greater things. Well today they achieved one of them. My nephew was a placekicker for Monmouth, and I developed an interest in the league at that time. OBNOXIOUS? Please give me a break!

[SingForever]

Yup....and your point?It has been made, and I often smile about it.

[Sader87]

Been discussed ad nausium....

The PL is a third tier league. I don't get why their fans can't understand it.

This coming from someone whose team lost to Lehigh at home two years ago in the playoffs.

The PL was down this year....maybe it's worse year ever....it will get better and better with each scholarship class.

[CFBfan]

A good win for Wagner. They deserved it. Colgate happened to play their best game when Lehigh played their worst. Raiders not a very good team in a down year for the PL. Teams without defense can't win in the playoffs, especially when your QB turns the ball over 5 times. I think Wagner could beat EWU at home, but it will be tough to fly across the country and play on that awful red field.

You Lehigh fans are pathetic!!!! they came down to LU and BEAT YOU in YOUR house on a grass field!! Get over yourselves you just ain't that good and you constant crying and whinnng when you lose and gloating when you win is truly pathetic! I don't think I am alone in that opinion!!!!!

[clenz]

It has been made, and I often smile about it.
Good for you.

I'm glad your teams biggest "hang our hat moment" came in a first round playoff game against one of the worst UNI teams in over a decade.


What a ****ty feeling that must really be.

[SingForever]

That has to mean that last year's win counts somehow this year for the Patriot League's strength. Lehigh would have been lucky to finish 2-9 this year with UNI's schedule and most certainly wouldn't have kept it within 2 TD's of each of the Big Ten schools that UNI's AD must have mistakenly scheduled for the same season. Seriously, WTF?!It was 2010 not last year. Wake up. It has nothing to do this year BUT IT SURE WAS FUN BEATING NORTHERN IOWA, AND I DON"T INTEND TO FORGET IT. Your league ought to get over themselves. It'a not really a big deal.

[SingForever]

Good for you.

I'm glad your teams biggest "hang our hat moment" came in a first round playoff game against one of the worst UNI teams in over a decade.


What a ****ty feeling that must really be.You fat boys from the Midwest never give up, do you.

[clenz]

It was 2010 not last year. Wake up. It has nothing to do this year BUT IT SURE WAS FUN BEATING NORTHERN IOWA, AND I DON"T INTEND TO FORGET IT. Your league ought to get over themselves. It'a not really a big deal.
You're right...beating one of the worst UNI teams in over a decade isn't a big deal.


4 other teams did it that year as well.



Like I said, I feel bad for fans of programs who can hang their hat on a first round playoff game and nothing else.

[Grizalltheway]

No quotations needed, it is what it is.


You mean a field where the bizon lose?

[profisme]

It was 2010 not last year. Wake up. It has nothing to do this year BUT IT SURE WAS FUN BEATING NORTHERN IOWA, AND I DON"T INTEND TO FORGET IT. Your league ought to get over themselves. It'a not really a big deal.

Oh. My bad. Something even further in the past is what you are hanging your hat on. I guess if I wanted to I could go on and on about MSU winning the NCAA Mens' Basketball National Championship back in 1929, but I don't. Why? Because it has no bearing on this year (or this sport). Lehigh was lucky to be 10-1 this year. Beating Princeton by a field goal? Kicking Holy Cross' butts by a whole point. Not really sure why you are yelling in caps at me over something having nothing to do with my team of choice. I think you should probably be the one to wake up here.

[aceinthehole]

A good win for Wagner. They deserved it. Colgate happened to play their best game when Lehigh played their worst. Raiders not a very good team in a down year for the PL. Teams without defense can't win in the playoffs, especially when your QB turns the ball over 5 times. I think Wagner could beat EWU at home, but it will be tough to fly across the country and play on that awful red field.

This is what I mean PL fans full of excuses.

2005 - Colgate won the Patriot League AQ, but lost to CCSU.
2006 - Lehigh was Patriot League co-champs and lost to Albany. Lafayette won the AQ and escaped week 1 with a 25-14 win over Sacred Heart.
2007 - Fordham win Patriot League AQ and lost to Albany.
2012 - Colgate (PL AQ) loses in playoffs to Wagner (NEC AQ)

[DFW HOYA]

The PL was down this year....maybe it's worse year ever....it will get better and better with each scholarship class.

I think there's more hope than expectation in that argument. This becomes a great opportunity for every NEC coach to sell Wagner's success.

[LehighU11]

I love listening to some of these MVFC and Big Sky posters who clearly have no jobs or lives since they post garbage on here every hour of the day, year round and live vicariously through a bunch of college football players who are just playing for fun. It's so amusing to see them go to any length to disparage teams and fans from other leagues. Pathetic.

Too bad some of our Lehigh "fans" who never set foot inside a classroom on South Mountain have to add fuel to the fire and diminish the University's name, as well as the Patriot League. They're just as bad.

[kdinva]

back to the present.........a great win for Wagner and their program.......still lots of full scholly programs (like VMI and Liberty) still haven't made it.....

[Kramden]

Congratulations to Wagner and the NEC.

To think 30 years ago Colgate was a 1A team and you were a DIII team, and it was clear you were the better, more talented team. The PL has a lot of catching up to do; hopefully Schollies help a bit but to see names like Stony Brook, Albany, and Wagner and their respective conferences, let alone the CAA (which when some of those teams were in the old Yankee Conference, there was not much difference in that level of ball and the PL teams).

Good luck to Wagner in the second round.

[danefan]

This is what I mean PL fans full of excuses.

2005 - Colgate won the Patriot League AQ, but lost to CCSU.
2006 - Lehigh was Patriot League co-champs and lost to Albany. Lafayette won the AQ and escaped week 1 with a 25-14 win over Sacred Heart.
2007 - Fordham win Patriot League AQ and lost to Albany.
2012 - Colgate (PL AQ) gets crushed by Albany and loses in playoffs to Wagner (NEC AQ)


FIFY

[Screamin_Eagle174]

http://www.kcconfidential.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Crying+Baby+Natural+High+for+Some+Moms.jpg


Cool story, bro.

[SingForever]

You mean a field where the bizon lose?Exactly LOL

[Sader87]

It's a great win for Wagner no doubt but it shows how far the PL has fallen just as much as how much the NEC schools have risen in the last decade or so.

[BisonFan02]

Exactly LOL

That's rich coming from Lehigh fan...

[SingForever]

I love listening to some of these MVFC and Big Sky posters who clearly have no jobs or lives since they post garbage on here every hour of the day, year round and live vicariously through a bunch of college football players who are just playing for fun. It's so amusing to see them go to any length to disparage teams and fans from other leagues. Pathetic.

Too bad some of our Lehigh "fans" who never set foot inside a classroom on South Mountain have to add fuel to the fire and diminish the University's name, as well as the Patriot League. They're just as bad.I am a Lehigh graduate with an MBA!

[aceinthehole]

This coming from someone whose team lost to Lehigh at home two years ago in the playoffs.

The PL was down this year....maybe it's worse year ever....it will get better and better with each scholarship class.

Worse than 2005-2007 when the Patriot AQ lost to a NEC team for 3 years in a row? Back then the NEC didn't have the AQ, so our champion was left out of the playoffs.

Don't let facts get in they way of a good PL excuse.

[SingForever]

That's rich coming from Lehigh fan...What's your point. You have a home field advantage that defies imagination. Things would not be the same if you played outside and on grass. And as far as playoff games are concerned, the only honest way to do it is to have all games on a neutral field.

[SingForever]

As far a obnoxious fans on this board, do you people out their notice how obnoxious the fat boys from North Dakota have become?

[LehighU11]

This is what I mean PL fans full of excuses.

2005 - Colgate won the Patriot League AQ, but lost to CCSU.
2006 - Lehigh was Patriot League co-champs and lost to Albany. Lafayette won the AQ and escaped week 1 with a 25-14 win over Sacred Heart.
2007 - Fordham win Patriot League AQ and lost to Albany.
2012 - Colgate (PL AQ) loses in playoffs to Wagner (NEC AQ)

Not really an excuse, more of an observation. Lehigh was an awful 2nd half team this year and that's why they lost to Colgate. Colgate had no defense. The entire league was about the same of talent, and pretty weak this year. I've had nothing but respect for the NEC after seeing Monmouth this year and watching Albany several times recently. Wagner has to be a good team to be able to travel after Sandy and blow out the Danes on their own field. The PL went 5-3 against the NEC this year, so the leagues are about equal on talent. Haven't seen too many reasonable Lehigh fans denying that the NEC is a league at the same level as ours this year.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I just got home and saw the score. Not really surprising imo. For whatever reason, Colgate does not fair well in the playoffs. Outside of 2003 their performances have been brutal. Congrats to Wagner!

[SingForever]

I give up. This board is a waste of time.

[BisonFan02]

As far a obnoxious fans on this board, do you people out their notice how obnoxious the fat boys from North Dakota have become?

Trololololo......nice spelling of "there" Mr. MBA

[aceinthehole]

It's a great win for Wagner no doubt but it shows how far the PL has fallen just as much as how much the NEC schools have risen in the last decade or so.

Again, really?

In 1991 Wagner was playing D-III football, while Holy Cross was the PL champs. Wagner just beat the PL champs - I think Wagner hs risen to the PL level.

Robert Morris played its first year of NCAA football in 1994 - they reached the FCS playoff in 2010. Enough said.

[RichH2]

Fellas, not to add to the recurring p*ssing contest but today is not about Lehigh. We lost. Today is for Wagner to celebrate their well earned victory. Time enough after the playoffs to bicker.
PL has lots to be proud of just not this year.

[aceinthehole]

Not really an excuse, more of an observation. Lehigh was an awful 2nd half team this year and that's why they lost to Colgate. Colgate had no defense. The entire league was about the same of talent, and pretty weak this year. I've had nothing but respect for the NEC after seeing Monmouth this year and watching Albany several times recently. Wagner has to be a good team to be able to travel after Sandy and blow out the Danes on their own field. The PL went 5-3 against the NEC this year, so the leagues are about equal on talent. Haven't seen too many reasonable Lehigh fans denying that the NEC is a league at the same level as ours this year.

LFN picked 'gate by 3 TDs less than 3 hours ago xcoffeex

[LehighU11]

Cool story, bro.

Haha, nice way to prove my point. I hope I get to bring that picture back in a few weeks when EWU gets bounced from the playoffs. No title this year, sorry!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Colgate in the playoffs
1997 - #1 Villanova 49 Colgate 28
1998 - #1 Georgia Southern 49 Colgate 28
1999 - Illinois State 56 Colgate 13
2003 - Colgate 19 Umass 7, Colgate 28 WIU 27, Colgate 36 FAU 24, Delaware 40 Colgate 0 Title Game
2005 - UNH 55 Colgate 21
2008 - Villanova 55 Colgate 28
2012 - Wagner 31 Colgate 20

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

LFN picked 'gate by 3 TDs less than 3 hours ago xcoffeex


I have no idea what he was thinking...

[aceinthehole]

Colgate in the playoffs
1997 - #1 Villanova 49 Colgate 28
1998 - #1 Georgia Southern 49 Colgate 28
1999 - Illinois State 56 Colgate 13
2003 - Colgate 19 Umass 7, Colgate 28 WIU 27, Colgate 36 FAU 24, Delaware 40 Colgate 0 Title Game
2005 - UNH 55 Colgate 21
2008 - Villanova 55 Colgate 28
2012 - Wagner 31 Colgate 20

Wow, I feel bad. that's awful

[SingForever]

Its a typo asshole. I have won so many spelling bees in my lifetime it's probably worth a degree at NDSU! THERE(right) THEIR (wrong) THERE(right) THEIR(wrong)
Oh boy, I got it right. Talk about obnoxious and stupid - criticizing a typo. Pretty petty crap.

[Sader87]

Again, really?

In 1991 Wagner was playing D-III football, while Holy Cross was the PL champs. Wagner just beat the PL champs - I think Wagner hs risen to the PL level.

Robert Morris played its first year of NCAA football in 1994 - they reached the FCS playoff in 2010. Enough said.

As they say on WEEI, "you're making my point Ace"....the NEC teams have gotten better but the PL teams (particularly HC, Colgate and Lehigh) have dropped in overall talent since the 1980's and early 1990's.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow, I feel bad. that's awful

They've really struggled in the playoffs. Their a system team that struggles to adapt imo. Some of those years the PL got another team in and faired much better than the Gate. Holy Cross, Fordham and Lafayette have showed better than Colgate except for '03.

[LehighU11]

LFN picked 'gate by 3 TDs less than 3 hours ago xcoffeex

Yeah, well he tends to exaggerate things in favor of LU and the PL. And he also tends to blow up my Facebook news feed with excessive posts, like today with about 75 posts from the Colgate game.

FWIW, I favored Wagner coming into this one. 8 wins in a row with a 30-0 drubbing of Albany on the road is impressive. I figured that they would win if they could stop the run (and they did) and move the ball (and they did).

[DFW HOYA]

It all comes down to numbers. Among 100 recruits eligible to play I-A football, the PL chooses to ignore 85% of them, and with what's left, they lose half to the Ivy League from the start. NEC teams can recruit all of those kids, and at some point, the supply of available talent exceeds the demand curve of those wishing to play in the PL, fielding teams with an ever smaller fraction of of the recruiting pool.

[Southern Bison]

Haha, nice way to prove my point. I hope I get to bring that picture back in a few weeks when EWU gets bounced from the playoffs. No title this year, sorry!

At least they made the dance!

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Haha, nice way to prove my point. I hope I get to bring that picture back in a few weeks when EWU gets bounced from the playoffs. No title this year, sorry!

That's all you have. And not much of it, I'm afraid. Poor guy.

[LehighU11]

Its a typo . I have won so many spelling bees in my lifetime it's probably worth a degree at NDSU! THERE(right) THEIR (wrong) THERE(right) THEIR(wrong)
Oh boy, I got it right. Talk about obnoxious and stupid - criticizing a typo. Pretty petty crap.

Please leave. You have as much of a degree at Lehigh as I have at NDSU or Wofford.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Its a typo asshole. I have won so many spelling bees in my lifetime it's probably worth a degree at NDSU! THERE(right) THEIR (wrong) THERE(right) THEIR(wrong)
Oh boy, I got it right. Talk about obnoxious and stupid - criticizing a typo. Pretty petty crap.

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif

Holy *****, thanks for the laugh. You should build a castle to house your delusions of grandeur with all that sand in your vagina. xtwocentsx

[LehighU11]

That's all you have. And not much of it, I'm afraid. Poor guy.

We shall see. I think the Eagles will run into trouble with App St or Sam Houston/Villanova. They'll be close ones, like many of EWU's games as of late.

[kalm]

At least they made the dance!

And he also has us making the semi's. he secretly likes us and red us his favorite color.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

We shall see. I think the Eagles will run into trouble with App St or Sam Houston/Villanova. They'll be close ones, like many of EWU's games as of late.

App State probably will be a close game. Almost all of our games were by a score or less on our championship run two years ago as well. xcoffeex

[Pards Rule]

Trololololo......nice spelling of "there" Mr. MBA

And RMU beat us this year. NEC is a very good conference as I have endorsed for some time.

[LehighU11]

And he also has us making the semi's. he secretly likes us and red us his favorite color.

Yes I do, doesn't mean I care for your fans :D! EWU is a good team, but you can only win so many close games in a row before one doesn't go your way. If the Eagles from September show up, they could win it all. Personally, I don't think that will happen.

[Grizalltheway]

I love listening to some of these MVFC and Big Sky posters who clearly have no jobs or lives since they post garbage on here every hour of the day, year round and live vicariously through a bunch of college football players who are just playing for fun. It's so amusing to see them go to any length to disparage teams and fans from other leagues. Pathetic.

Too bad some of our Lehigh "fans" who never set foot inside a classroom on South Mountain have to add fuel to the fire and diminish the University's name, as well as the Patriot League. They're just as bad.

Well they're doing a pretty great job of getting under your paper-thin skin. Why do you take this stuff so seriously?

[Sader87]

And RMU beat us this year. NEC is a very good conference as I have endorsed for some time.

I'm sorry Pards but the NEC is not a very good conference. It's a limited scholarship league with schools who have almost 0 D1 football history, who also play at basically high school facilities. Shame on us for basically being at their level right now.

[aceinthehole]

It all comes down to numbers. Among 100 recruits eligible to play I-A football, the PL chooses to ignore 85% of them, and with what's left, they lose half to the Ivy League from the start. NEC teams can recruit all of those kids, and at some point, the supply of available talent exceeds the demand curve of those wishing to play in the PL, fielding teams with an ever smaller fraction of of the recruiting pool.

As DFW so often points out - changing aid alone won't help the PL.

Wagner is going to be at a disadvantage against a team like EWU because the NEC is only offering 40 schollys compared to 63. But the the NEC is recruting talent (and speed) on par with theese "power conference" teams. Look a kid like Docher - he was a 22 year old Frosh who had played minor league baseball would never be accepted at a PL school. Wagner has transfers on the roster from programs like Hofstra and Syracuse. Wagner is able to redshirt its players. Wagner recruited (as does many NEC teams) heavily in Florida. Wagner scheduled a FBS game. The NEC has been doing a lot more things that just switching from grant-in-aid to schollys.

The PL is playing by Ivy rules and they will struggle to compete against what its becoming standard at FCS schools - redshirts, FBS transfers, etc. That's why I think the NEC has a bright future.

Wagner's win helps all NEC in future recruiting! Congrats again to Wagner!

[SingForever]

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif

Holy *****, thanks for the laugh. You should build a castle to house your delusions of grandeur with all that sand in your vagina. xtwocentsx

Just stating a fact. I am a Proud graduate of Lehigh, although LehighU11 making a statement that is a complete lie really upsets me. Grandeur?? What the **** is the matter with you? And by the way LehighU11 - I am probably the most Exuberant Lehigh fan you would ever see. But don't see me or your ****ing nose will be .

[SingForever]

BROKEN

[BisonFan02]

BROKEN

No Cops.

[Sader87]

As DFW so often points out - changing aid alone won't help the PL.

Wagner is going to be at a disadvantage against a team like EWU because the NEC is only offering 40 schollys compared to 63. But the the NEC is recruting talent (and speed) on par with theese "power conference" teams. Look a kid like Docher - he was a 22 year old Frosh who had played minor league baseball would never be accepted at a PL school. Wagner has transfers on the roster from programs like Hofstra and Syracuse. Wagner is able to redshirt its players. Wagner recruited (as does many NEC teams) heavily in Florida. Wagner scheduled a FBS game. The NEC has been doing a lot more things that just switching from grant-in-aid to schollys.

The PL is playing by Ivy rules and they will struggle to compete against what its becoming standard at FCS schools - redshirts, FBS transfers, etc. That's why I think the NEC has a bright future.
Wagner's win helps all NEC in future recruiting! Congrats again to Wagner!

DFW is a great fan but he's jaded by GTown's decision not to give scholarships. The PL schools that do will get a lot better overall.

[aceinthehole]

I'm sorry Pards but the NEC is not a very good conference. It's a limited scholarship league with schools who have almost 0 D1 football history, who also play at basically high school facilities. Shame on us for basically being at their level right now.

Exactly what I mean.

Maybe a few non-'gate fans have come to see the light, but the majority of Lehigh/Lafayette/HC fans have nothing but distain for the NEC and are bitter at the new status quo of FCS football.

LFN, Bogus and Sader are the 3 stooges of this group of PL fans of a bygone era.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Just stating a fact. I am a Proud graduate of Lehigh, although LehighU11 making a statement that is a complete lie really upsets me. Grandeur?? What the **** is the matter with you? And by the way LehighU11 - I am probably the most Exuberant Lehigh fan you would ever see. But don't see me or your ****ing nose will be .

Nothing wrong with me, but you on the other hand...

http://psychcentral.com/encyclopedia/2008/delusion-of-grandeur/

http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/m4JnO.png

xcoffeex

[BisonBohl]

What's your point. You have a home field advantage that defies imagination. Things would not be the same if you played outside and on grass. And as far as playoff games are concerned, the only honest way to do it is to have all games on a neutral field.

You do realize we havent lost on the road since 2010, thats a 11 game road winning streak. Our only two losses in the last two years have been at home. Think were fine anywhere we play.

[Grizalltheway]

Nothing wrong with me, but you on the other hand...

http://psychcentral.com/encyclopedia/2008/delusion-of-grandeur/

http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/m4JnO.png

xcoffeex

xlolxxlolxxbowx

[aceinthehole]

DFW is a great fan but he's jaded by GTown's decision not to give scholarships. The PL schools that do will get a lot better overall.

And you are jaded that HC never joined the Big East.

I'm looking forward to watching the former Orange Bowl participant Holy Cross Crusaders lose a football game to the state teacher's college in New Britain next season :)

[FargoBison]

Obviously a down year in the PL. Congrats to Wagner on their win.

[Lehigh'98]

Exactly, this is Wagners day, great win

[BisonBohl]

You mean a field where the bizon lose?


Oh thats cute coming from a Grizz Fan, hows next season shaping up to look like? Cant be much worse then this year...

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Oh thats cute coming from a Grizz Fan, hows next season shaping up to look like? Cant be much worse then this year...


Grizz fans are 'hurting'.....Northern Colorado finished ahead of them in the Big sky.....

[LehighU11]

Exactly what I mean.

Maybe a few non-'gate fans have come to see the light, but the majority of Lehigh/Lafayette/HC fans have nothing but distain for the NEC and are bitter at the new status quo of FCS football.

LFN, Bogus and Sader are the 3 stooges of this group of PL fans of a bygone era.

Wagner will have a great chance to represent the NEC next weekend. They will play the champion of a power conference and have a chance to see how they stack up.

While this is not the PL of the late 80s and 90s, I still think the league is relevant and that scholarships will increase the talent in the league, at least to some degree. Lehigh beat the MVFC champ in 2010 (a fact, no matter how much people downplay UNI and the MVFC's talent that year) and the CAA champ in 2011. I can understand why some are hesitant to name the NEC as an equal, even if one of their teams beats our AQ, until they have a signature win over a power conference champion in the playoffs. I think the NEC is about on par with the PL at the moment. The direction of the NEC is promising, though Albany's departure is a big loss.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Oh thats cute coming from a Grizz Fan, hows next season shaping up to look like? Cant be much worse then this year...

On a field where the bi-son lose? xcoffeex











xsmiley_wix

[DFW HOYA]

DFW is a great fan but he's jaded by GTown's decision not to give scholarships. The PL schools that do will get a lot better overall.

I'm jaded by the Academic Index. This was not instituted as a result of flunkouts or scandal, only as a competitive horse collar around these schools for the purpose of staying in the good graces of the Ivy League.

I trust the caliber of student who Holy Cross chooses to admit to its class. Unfortunately, the league does not.

There's plenty of time to talk about how Georgetown continues in the PL without scholarships. This is Wagner's day to stand tall.

[SingForever]

Nothing wrong with me, but you on the other hand http://psychcentral.com/encyclopedia/2008/delusion-of-grandeur/

http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/m4JnO.png

xcoffeexNothing wrong with you?? Talk about delusions of grandeur!

[Grizalltheway]

Oh thats cute coming from a Grizz Fan, hows next season shaping up to look like? Cant be much worse then this year...

Actually, it can.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/2449/year/2009/north-dakota-state-bison

[Bisonoline]

As far a obnoxious fans on this board, do you people out their notice how obnoxious the fat boys from North Dakota have become?

Youve been posting for 6 days. (at least under this alias) So six days is a point of reference to make that determination?

[BisonBohl]

Actually, it can.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/2449/year/2009/north-dakota-state-bison


Haha, not going to hijack this thread any further. http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/2449/year/2011/north-dakota-state-bison

Congrats Wagner!

[SingForever]

Youve been posting for 6 days. (at least under this alias) So six days is a point of reference to make that determination?

I've been posting a lot longer than that, Sherlock.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Nothing wrong with you?? Talk about delusions of grandeur!

Good one.

[Bisonoline]

I've been posting a lot longer than that, Sherlock.


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So what was your other alias?

[RichH2]

I'm jaded by the Academic Index. This was not instituted as a result of flunkouts or scandal, only as a competitive horse collar around these schools for the purpose of staying in the good graces of the Ivy League.

I trust the caliber of student who Holy Cross chooses to admit to its class. Unfortunately, the league does not.

There's plenty of time to talk about how Georgetown continues in the PL without scholarships. This is Wagner's day to stand tall.
We should all get off this thread. Status of PL with schollies is not relevant here. Altho, you like many assume AI is a huge limiting factor. Not really true. Consider just in the NE there are over 2000 high schools playing football.
Anyway, I'm sure this topic will reappear for the next decade or so.
Agree this is Wagner's day.

[LehighU11]

Join Date
11-18-2012

So what was your other alias?

Pick one who was banned for threatening members. That's a good start.

[BisonFan02]

Pick one who was banned for threatening members. That's a good start.

Not the same style as TheFan I don't think...

[clenz]

Not the same style as TheFan I don't think...

Thefan, lakes, etc...

Sent from the nexus of the universe

[frozennorth]

Not the same style as TheFan I don't think...
the fan supposedly had an mba.

[clenz]

More of a cs poster but...razor?

Sent from the nexus of the universe

[Sam]

Colgate tough day nothing went right? MCcarney great player had a tough time I think he may have had injury. That is football you win some you lose some?
BUT the behavior from the Wagner football players grabbing their nuts to the fans and yelling during the game obscenities was disgusting I will never tell a player that I coach or speak to to go to school that promotes that type of behavior. Enough said good luck East Washington you will be shocked at this group and the behavior of these "football" players?

[ColgateTD]

Colgate tough day nothing went right? MCcarney great player had a tough time I think he may have had injury. That is football you win some you lose some?
BUT the behavior from the Wagner football players grabbing their nuts to the fans and yelling during the game obscenities was disgusting I will never tell a player that I coach or speak to to go to school that promotes that type of behavior. Enough said good luck East Washington you will be shocked at this group and the behavior of these "football" players?

Tough day for Payton Award nominee Gavin McCarney and Patriot League Coach of the Year Dick Biddle. Thanks, team, for a great season. Just wasn't our day.

[Go...gate]

The wrong team represented the PL today. Once again I say, and it is true beyond a doubt, The roughing the punter penalty by Lehigh in the first half is the reason. Simply the truth, so don't give me a hard time.

How about a little class, Ace? We beat Lehigh.

[OL FU]

This way to Crapsville. I'm buying.





Don't tell citdog

[Go...gate]

Colgate in the playoffs
1982 - Colgate 21, Boston University 7; Delaware 20, Colgate 13 (Quarterfinal)
1983 - Western Carolina 24, Colgate 23
1997 - #1 Villanova 49, Colgate 28
1998 - #1 Georgia Southern 49, Colgate 28
1999 - Illinois State 56, Colgate 13
2003 - Colgate 19, UMass 7; Colgate 28 WIU 27 (Quarterfinal); Colgate 36, FAU 24 (Semifinal); Delaware 40, Colgate 0 (Title Game)
2005 - UNH 55, Colgate 21
2008 - Villanova 55, Colgate 28
2012 - Wagner 31, Colgate 20

Check your history. And Lehigh has lost a few play-off games in its history, too.

[Go...gate]

Congratulations to Wagner!!!

[Go...gate]

Congratulations Wagner Seahawks. Great win today. You made us proud.

Indeed, congratulations! You guys played a great game and richly deserved the win. Go get EWU next week!

[Gater]

Sam, didn't see what their players were doing on the field but heard (from a former football player Colgate alum) a lot of our fans we all over their players and had to be moved away from behind their bench by the cops--which I don't think I have ever heard of at an away game but that might explain some of what happened on the field. As for SingForever, it's amazing how Lehigh gets one poster a year, normally around playoff time, that turns this whole board against the school. Not sure why he wasn't with OL FU in Crapsville. Which is where I'm headed for a Bulleit, rocks and a what-if chaser.

[danefan]

Sam, didn't see what their players were doing on the field but heard (from a former football player Colgate alum) a lot of our fans we all over their players and had to be moved away from behind their bench by the cops--which I don't think I have ever heard of at an away game but that might explain some of what happened on the field. As for SingForever, it's amazing how Lehigh gets one poster a year, normally around playoff time, that turns this whole board against the school. Not sure why he wasn't with OL FU in Crapsville. Which is where I'm headed for a Bulleit, rocks and a what-if chaser.

Lehigh has had its fair share of idiot posters this year. Im sure some of them are the same people.

[aceinthehole]

Lehigh has had its fair share of idiot posters this year. Im sure some of them are the same people.

And until their loss to Colgate, many Lehigh fans thought they had a top-10 team (and some still do).

This thread just reforces the class the 'gate fans have - best in the PL.

[Seawolf97]

Congratulations to the Seahawks today. Good luck at Eastern Washington !

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Exactly what I mean.

Maybe a few non-'gate fans have come to see the light, but the majority of Lehigh/Lafayette/HC fans have nothing but distain for the NEC and are bitter at the new status quo of FCS football.

LFN, Bogus and Sader are the 3 stooges of this group of PL fans of a bygone era.

In what fantasy world do I have disdain for the NEC? Sure, I'll own "Colgate winning by 3 TDs" after watching their offense put up 50+ and 60+ points on Georgetown and Lafayette. But "disdain"? You've been hanging around Eastern Washington and UNI fans too long.

[Bill]

Congratulations, Wagner.

[Go...gate]

Sam, didn't see what their players were doing on the field but heard (from a former football player Colgate alum) a lot of our fans we all over their players and had to be moved away from behind their bench by the cops--which I don't think I have ever heard of at an away game but that might explain some of what happened on the field. As for SingForever, it's amazing how Lehigh gets one poster a year, normally around playoff time, that turns this whole board against the school. Not sure why he wasn't with OL FU in Crapsville. Which is where I'm headed for a Bulleit, rocks and a what-if chaser.

Colgate fans did this? If so, I'm very disappointed. Has rarely if ever happened in my memory.

[danefan]

Colgate fans did this? If so, I'm very disappointed. Has rarely if ever happened in my memory.

Very unlike Colgate fans if true.

[Gater]

Apparently a bunch of students with Mo-vember mustaches. My friend was sitting with his wife (who went to Wagner) and he said it made Colgate look pretty bad. You're always going to have kids acting like idiots at some point. I played football and I was a holy mess to visiting teams at hockey games. A few idiots (like myself in the day) don't define a school. Just like five posters on this board don't define a school. I do feel like Colgate's team plays clean and Biddle is an honorable guy and I feel like, in general, our fans are good. I've never seen any bad stuff at football games since I graduated but I'm sure it happens.

[Lehigh'98]

And until their loss to Colgate, many Lehigh fans thought they had a top-10 team (and some still do).

This thread just reforces the class the 'gate fans have - best in the PL.

Most Lehigh fans give credit where it is due and are gracious in defeat, don't let a few rogue posters ruin it. Colgate was better than us Nov 10th. Wagner was better than Colgate today. Hopefully, you come see for yourself at Murray Goodman next season Ace I'll have a beer waiting for ya at tailgates!!

[ngineer]

This is what I mean PL fans full of excuses.

2005 - Colgate won the Patriot League AQ, but lost to CCSU.
2006 - Lehigh was Patriot League co-champs and lost to Albany. Lafayette won the AQ and escaped week 1 with a 25-14 win over Sacred Heart.
2007 - Fordham win Patriot League AQ and lost to Albany.
2012 - Colgate (PL AQ) loses in playoffs to Wagner (NEC AQ)

Not sure what is meant by 'excuses', as I don't recall PL fans condescending about the NEC. Heck, we've recognized for years that with scholarships your league had become significantly stronger than in the early part of the decade. Indeed, that Albany team that beat Lehigh on opening day in 2006 also beat Delaware that year! As a league they have become very competitive with the PL. With scholarships I am hopeful we'll be raising the bar another notch or two. Over the past few years, the top one or two NEC teams were always on a par with the top PL teams, but overall I think the PL was had more parity, and in the past couple the overall strength of the conference has improved.

[ngineer]

Not the same style as TheFan I don't think...

Wouldn't be so sure..what can one do. We're really all not like that.

[CFBfan]

AND THE REASON THaT HAPPENED IS BECAUSE OFROUGHING THE PUNTER, stupid.l LEHIGH WOULD HAVE BEEN UP 24-0 AT THE HALF. I know it's "water over the damn, but it's the truth. Don't you know anything about football?

Hmmm, Gate puts up 35 points and beats you by 9 points (35 - 25)......yeah you're right you can absoulutely predict the outcome of a game lost by 9 points based on a play in the 1st half. you are a prophet of biblical proportions!!!!! we here all bow to you!!!

[CFBfan]

Hmmm, Gate puts up 35 points and beats you by 9 points (35 - 25)......yeah you're right you can absoulutely predict the outcome of a game lost by 9 points based on a play in the 1st half. you are a prophet of biblical proportions!!!!! we here all bow to you!!!

SORRY: make that 11 points that they beat you 35 - 24......no coffee yet: but then you knew that cause you're a prophet SingForever!!!

[busybee14]

Any chance moving foward we could see a combined conference between Nec and Patriot? Geographically it makes sense and we could have a little more at large swagger come playoff selection time.East and West division.Im sure this has been discussed as the PL scholly situation always comes up in the off season.Or is this thought just like slumming it for PL purists ?

[caribbeanhen]

I love listening to some of these MVFC and Big Sky posters who clearly have no jobs or lives since they post garbage on here every hour of the day.

no reason to point that out, the've all admitted it already

[caribbeanhen]

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So what was your other alias?

this has to be "Hawker" the same guy who appeared with a loud entrance on the UNI fan board just prior to the Lehigh win over UNI a few years ago

[kalm]

no reason to point that out, the've all admitted it already

Posts like that are just a variation of Godwins Law.

[ngineer]

Any chance moving foward we could see a combined conference between Nec and Patriot? Geographically it makes sense and we could have a little more at large swagger come playoff selection time.East and West division.Im sure this has been discussed as the PL scholly situation always comes up in the off season.Or is this thought just like slumming it for PL purists ?

Not likely in the near future. PL Presidents are looking for "all sports" companions as opposed to associations in just one sport. Fordham has been an exception, but they were a earlier all sport member and I won't be surprised if they return in near future in that capacity. Georgetown also an exception, but their location and academic 'cache" makes the association good. Philosophically, most if not all the Presidents will not agree to combining based upon what they see as academic profile and how that would effect the "Academic Index" all schools must follow. So while I don't see an actual merger, I would like to see a 'working relatationship' similar to what we have with the Ivy League.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Not likely in the near future. PL Presidents are looking for "all sports" companions as opposed to associations in just one sport. Fordham has been an exception, but they were a earlier all sport member and I won't be surprised if they return in near future in that capacity. Georgetown also an exception, but their location and academic 'cache" makes the association good. Philosophically, most if not all the Presidents will not agree to combining based upon what they see as academic profile and how that would effect the "Academic Index" all schools must follow. So while I don't see an actual merger, I would like to see a 'working relatationship' similar to what we have with the Ivy League.

That working relationship is extremely visible in the world of college hoops. There's a specific Patriot/NEC challenge in hoops for the women, and always lots of collaboration with the men's as well. For example, LIU-Brooklyn plays Lafayette this year as a home-and-home.

As much as the NEC people here hate the Patriot League, in reality I think the leadership of both conferences are much more closely aligned than you think.

[LUHawker]

this has to be "Hawker" the same guy who appeared with a loud entrance on the UNI fan board just prior to the Lehigh win over UNI a few years ago

Just for clarity, please don't confuse me, LUHawker, with Hawker. I've been here since the beginning and don't want my name sullied by this other "hawker"

[LUHawker]

Any chance moving foward we could see a combined conference between Nec and Patriot? Geographically it makes sense and we could have a little more at large swagger come playoff selection time.East and West division.Im sure this has been discussed as the PL scholly situation always comes up in the off season.Or is this thought just like slumming it for PL purists ?

Extremely doubtful this would ever happen and yes to purists, or even simply those proud of our conference, this would be a very distasteful outcome. Most PL folks I talk to dislike even Boston U. and Loyola, so any connection to CCSU, or Wagner, etc, would be unpalatable. And for full disclosure, I am also of that view.

[clenz]

No Cops.Or lunch

[clenz]

this has to be "Hawker" the same guy who appeared with a loud entrance on the UNI fan board just prior to the Lehigh win over UNI a few years ago
Makes total sense...especially due to the fact that 3/4th of his posts refer back to that game

[busybee14]

Extremely doubtful this would ever happen and yes to purists, or even simply those proud of our conference, this would be a very distasteful outcome. Most PL folks I talk to dislike even Boston U. and Loyola, so any connection to CCSU, or Wagner, etc, would be unpalatable. And for full disclosure, I am also of that view.

All good.But i will tell You ,having been involved with Hs recruiting for a #of years the PL,Ivy,NEC and Pioneer Leagues are all recruiting the same kids.They are all more alike then u may think.

[LUHawker]

All good.But i will tell You ,having been involved with Hs recruiting for a #of years the PL,Ivy,NEC and Pioneer Leagues are all recruiting the same kids.They are all more alike then u may think.

Perhaps from an athletics point of view, but not from an academic or institional one. With schollies now, I think the PL will capture more of the qualified kids that end up at an Ivy or NEC school because of money.

[SingForever]

Makes total sense...especially due to the fact that 3/4th of his posts refer back to that gameWRONG!

[Go...gate]

As is the case with the Ivies, I think that NEC schools have been showing up more and more on Patriot OOC skeds. Colgate played four NEC schools in 2012.

[Mr. C]

Here is the write-up on the game:

http://www.college-sports-journal.com/index.php/ncaa-division-i-sports/fcs-football/623-wagner-continues-it-s-wild-journey-with-win-over-colgate

[Mr. C]

Here is the write-up on the game:

http://www.college-sports-journal.com/index.php/ncaa-division-i-sports/fcs-football/623-wagner-continues-it-s-wild-journey-with-win-over-colgate