FCS Postseason NIT

[Lehigh Football Nation]

1st round:

Lehigh at 1 Towson
Tennessee State at Albany

Eastern Kentucky at Richmond
UT-Martin at 2 Northern Arizona

Semifinals at host sites

Winner plays in Chattanooga

xthumbsupx

[Professor Chaos]

UT-Martin's and Northern Arizona's coaches are furious...

[Lehigh Football Nation]

UT-Martin's and Northern Arizona's coaches are furious...

LOL. Added them both. Why not?

Oh, wait! EKU's coach is furious they weren't seeded!

[dgreco]

It would be a cool idea to get to see other teams in years like this where there are a lot of good teams.

[TypicalTribe]

And that's without any of these 7-4 teams that were all pretty dangerous

JMU
McNeese State
The Citadel
Samford
Indiana State
Youngstown State

[RichH2]

Would definitely be fun this year. I'd like to see NAU go up vs JMU or TU.

[SpeedkingATL]

Championship trophy for FCS NIT game will be a Wofford Terrier Statue with "Woofed" inscribed on the front.

[EKU Toss Sweep]

No thank you.

[bluehenbillk]

Wait a minute, those 8 teams weren't determined by the GPI, the committee must've made a mistake :)

[BisonFan02]

Clearly EKU would've bid to host a game...but no one shows up.

[tourguide]

Lehigh should be in the CBI, that schedule doesnt even deserve NIT consideration!

[Mr. C]

You add Butler and Drake from the PFL to make it a 16-team tournament.

[Mr. C]

Lehigh should be in the CBI, that schedule doesn't even deserve NIT consideration!

That being said, what about Sam Houston State's non-FBS schedule?

[BisonFan02]

That being said, what about Sam Houston State's non-FBS schedule?

Don't disagree with SHSU either. Fire SHSU, Save Playoffs.

[Maroons]

1st round:

Eastern Kentucky at Richmond

Ugh. Why is it always Richmond? At least the Spidahs won't have Timmy Hightower this time.

And what happened that it seems like I can't read a thread without an NDSU fan running down my alma mater? This is an increasingly unpleasant site to visit.

[BisonFan02]

Clearly EKU would've bid to host a game...but no one shows up.

Well, as my 1000th post, I felt like I needed to quote the above. That post earned me my first ever neg rep on this site! Thanks Maroons! :D

[Maroons]

Well, as my 1000th post, I felt like I needed to quote the above. That post earned me my first ever neg rep on this site! Thanks Maroons! :D

I don't even have 500 posts, so I must still be learning how to work those buttons... sorry! xrolleyesx

I guess you're referencing the attendance at the playoff game last year against JMU? It was certainly a disappointment... but when the dorms are closed and UK is playing Tennessee in a home game up the road, it's hard to get people to notice. Them's the facts. We can't all have the benefit of being the state's "flagship" (that is what you guys are, right? Or... is it UND? Or are you both?).

Attendance for the Colonels this season was actually up over the past several years. I had high hopes for a much better playoff crowd, especially as UK is so terrible.

[BisonFan02]

I don't even have 500 posts, so I must still be learning how to work those buttons... sorry! xrolleyesx

I guess you're referencing the attendance at the playoff game last year against JMU? It was certainly a disappointment... but when the dorms are closed and UK is playing Tennessee in a home game up the road, it's hard to get people to notice. Them's the facts. We can't all have the benefit of being the state's "flagship" (that is what you guys are, right? Or... is it UND? Or are you both?).

Attendance for the Colonels this season was actually up over the past several years. I had high hopes for a much better playoff crowd, especially as UK is so terrible.

2,388 in attendance for that playoff game (per ESPN) is "certainly a disappointment"...sorry you can't take a joke.

[mmiller_34]

I'll play.

16-Teams

(1) Towson vs. (16) Northern Iowa
(2) Northern Arizona vs. (15) Citadel
(3) Eastern Kentucky vs. (14) Howard
(4) Lehigh vs. (13) Samford
(5) UT-Martin vs. (12) Southern Illinois
(6) James Madison vs. (11) Albany
(7) Youngstown State vs. (10) McNeese State
(8) Indiana State vs. (9) Tennessee State

[BisonFan02]

I'll play.

16-Teams

(1) Towson vs. (16) Northern Iowa
(2) Northern Arizona vs. (15) Citadel
(3) Eastern Kentucky vs. (14) Howard
(4) Lehigh vs. (13) Samford
(5) UT-Martin vs. (12) Southern Illinois
(6) James Madison vs. (11) Albany
(7) Youngstown State vs. (10) McNeese State
(8) Indiana State vs. (9) Tennessee State

No PFL autobid for the NIT?

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I'll play.

16-Teams

(1) Towson vs. (16) Northern Iowa
(2) Northern Arizona vs. (15) Citadel
(3) Eastern Kentucky vs. (14) Howard
(4) Lehigh vs. (13) Samford
(5) UT-Martin vs. (12) Southern Illinois
(6) James Madison vs. (11) Albany
(7) Youngstown State vs. (10) McNeese State
(8) Indiana State vs. (9) Tennessee State

I like it... Much better than the two-second thing I came up with! :D

[mmiller_34]

No PFL autobid for the NIT?

LOL. I briefly thought about adding Drake, or was it Butler who won it?

[BisonFan02]

LOL. I briefly thought about adding Drake, or was it Butler who won it?

Looks like a good enough play in game to me.

[mmiller_34]

Looks like a good enough play in game to me.

So does UNI get bumped in order to make room for the winner of that play in game? In that case...

FCS NIT

(1) Towson vs. (16) Butler/Drake
(2) Northern Arizona vs. (15) Citadel
(3) Eastern Kentucky vs. (14) Howard
(4) Lehigh vs. (13) Samford
(5) UT-Martin vs. (12) Southern Illinois
(6) James Madison vs. (11) Albany
(7) Youngstown State vs. (10) McNeese State
(8) Indiana State vs. (9) Tennessee State

[Lehigh Football Nation]

So does UNI get bumped in order to make room for the winner of that play in game?

"If a team does not have six wins, they are in jeopardy of not making the LFN postseason NIT..." xlolx xlolx xlolx

[ITmonarch10]

I'll play.

16-Teams

(1) Towson vs. (16) Northern Iowa
(2) Northern Arizona vs. (15) Citadel
(3) Eastern Kentucky vs. (14) Howard
(4) Lehigh vs. (13) Samford
(5) UT-Martin vs. (12) Southern Illinois
(6) James Madison vs. (11) Albany
(7) Youngstown State vs. (10) McNeese State
(8) Indiana State vs. (9) Tennessee State

Richmond snubbed again....

I honestly would like to see who would win this.

[BisonFan02]

So does UNI get bumped in order to make room for the winner of that play in game?

Naw, bump one of the OVC teams...that shouldn't be more than a 2 bid league for the NIT :D

[mmiller_34]

Richmond snubbed again....

I honestly would like to see who would win this.

Haha, whoops. That was an obvious miss.

[mmiller_34]

Some Changes:

Tennessee State OUT
Indiana State moves to (9)
Richmond IN at (8)

Second play-in game added for the (15) Tennessee State/Citadel

FCS NIT

(1) Towson vs. (16) Butler/Drake
(2) Northern Arizona vs. (15) Citadel/Tennessee State
(3) Eastern Kentucky vs. (14) Howard
(4) Lehigh vs. (13) Samford
(5) UT-Martin vs. (12) Southern Illinois
(6) James Madison vs. (11) Albany
(7) Youngstown State vs. (10) McNeese State
(8) Richmond vs. (9) Indiana State

[Lehigh Football Nation]

The NIT championship has to be played in Chatty. Does that mean Chatty makes it in favor of The Citadel? :D

[Mr. C]

The NIT championship has to be played in Chatty. Does that mean Chatty makes it in favor of The Citadel? :D

Absolutely not. Tennessee-Chattanooga never got into the championship game without a ticket when the championship game was played there.

[mmiller_34]

The NIT championship has to be played in Chatty. Does that mean Chatty makes it in favor of The Citadel? :D

Its actually going to be played on the parking garage that Chatty used to practice on... So yes. Chatty always has an automatic bid to the play-in to the play-in game.

[Mr. C]

Some Changes:

Tennessee State OUT
Indiana State moves to (9)
Richmond IN at (8)

Second play-in game added for the (15) Tennessee State/Citadel

FCS NIT

(1) Towson vs. (16) Butler/Drake
(2) Northern Arizona vs. (15) Citadel/Tennessee State
(3) Eastern Kentucky vs. (14) Howard
(4) Lehigh vs. (13) Samford
(5) UT-Martin vs. (12) Southern Illinois
(6) James Madison vs. (11) Albany
(7) Youngstown State vs. (10) McNeese State
(8) Richmond vs. (9) Indiana State

No way that Southern Illinois is in this tournament. Bring back Tennessee State.

[mmiller_34]

No way that Southern Illinois is in this tournament. Bring back Tennessee State.

So switch Southern Illinois and Tennessee State? Done.

Some Changes:

Tennessee State acquires the (13)
Samford moves to the (12)
Southern Illinois to the (15) play-in game

FCS NIT

(1) Towson vs. (16) Butler/Drake
(2) Northern Arizona vs. (15) Citadel/Southern Illinois
(3) Eastern Kentucky vs. (14) Howard
(4) Lehigh vs. (13) Tennessee State
(5) UT-Martin vs. (12) Samford
(6) James Madison vs. (11) Albany
(7) Youngstown State vs. (10) McNeese State
(8) Richmond vs. (9) Indiana State

[Mr. C]

We could use that football game simulator to figure out who wins. Anyone have the link?

[Mr. C]

So switch Southern Illinois and Tennessee State?

But you have to move TSU somewhere so the Tigers don't play UTM two weeks in a row.

[mmiller_34]

But you have to move TSU somewhere so the Tigers don't play UTM two weeks in a row.

Oh Duuurr.. Fixed it.

Samford to the (12), TSU to the (13)

[mmiller_34]

We could use that football game simulator to figure out who wins. Anyone have the link?

Found it: http://www.nationalsportsrankings.com/index.php?option=com_oneonone&Itemid=99

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Penn was offered the #4 seed, but declined. After all, the Ivy League doesn't play in postseason tournaments. Unless it's the NCAAs in basketball. Lacrosse. Hockey. Badminton. Rowing. Equestrian....

[mmiller_34]

Penn was offered the #4 seed, but declined. After all, the Ivy League doesn't play in postseason tournaments. Unless it's the NCAAs in basketball. Lacrosse. Hockey. Badminton. Rowing. Equestrian....

We were really disappointed because we thought that having Penn at #4 would be a good way to tap into the Philly market for the weekend...

[mmiller_34]

By virtue of the FCS Simulator provided by nationalsportsranking.com...

Play-in Game Results

Butler 17, Drake 14
Southern Illinois 29, Citadel 16

[BisonFan02]

By virtue of the FCS Simulator provided by nationalsportsranking.com...

Play-in Game Results

Butler 17, Drake 14
Southern Illinois 29, Citadel 16

That's pretty funny. Drake already beat Butler once this year.

[mmiller_34]

That's pretty funny. Drake already beat Butler once this year.

That what I thought. I simulated it twice, Butler won both times.

[mmiller_34]

FCS NIT First-Round Results

(1) Towson 50, (16) Butler 7
(2) Northern Arizona 31, (15) Southern Illinois 20
(3) Eastern Kentucky 23, (14) Howard 3
(4) Lehigh 27, (13) Tennessee State 30
(5) UT-Martin 32, (12) Samford 24
(6) James Madison 16, (11) Albany 17
(7) Youngstown State 44, (10) McNeese State 30
(8) Richmond 43, (9) Indiana State 29

FCS NIT Quarterfinals

(1) Towson vs. (8) Richmond
(2) Northern Arizona vs. (7) Youngstown State
(3) Eastern Kentucky vs. (11) Albany
(13) Tennessee State vs. (5) UT-Martin

[mmiller_34]

FCS NIT Quarterfinals Results

(1) Towson 24, (8) Richmond 29
(2) Northern Arizona 20, (7) Youngstown State 25
(3) Eastern Kentucky 32, (11) Albany 22
(13) Tennessee State 22, (5) UT-Martin 12

Lots of upsets so far. Only Eastern Kentucky is left of the high-seeds.

FCS NIT Semifinals

(3) Eastern Kentucky vs. (7) Youngstown State
(8) Richmond vs. (13) Tennessee State

[Mr. C]

You would be better off doing the 100-game simulation instead of just one or two. That would be more accurate.

[mmiller_34]

FCS NIT Semifinals

(3) Eastern Kentucky 31, (7) Youngstown State 28
(8) Richmond 24, (13) Tennessee State 10

FCS NIT Championship

(3) Eastern Kentucky vs. (8) Richmond @ Chattanooga

[mmiller_34]

You would be better off doing the 100-game simulation instead of just one or two. That would be more accurate.

Thats all you! xbeerchugx

[mmiller_34]

FCS NIT Championship Result

(3) Eastern Kentucky 22, (8) Richmond 30

Richmond Wins!!!! Now that my boredom has been quenched. Thoughts?

[Lehigh Football Nation]

FCS NIT First-Round Results

(4) Lehigh 27, (13) Tennessee State 30


Patriot League back to 0-bid postseason NIT league... xlolx

[DSUrocks07]

You would be better off doing the 100-game simulation instead of just one or two. That would be more accurate.

xflaggedx

Any given Saturday ;)

[Lehigh Football Nation]

The only weakness in this field is that sleeping giant Missouri State didn't get an invite.

[Mr. C]

The only weakness in this field is that sleeping giant Missouri State didn't get an invite.

Yes, our MVFC friends are telling us that Missouri State would have won the PL auto bid this year.

[ysubigred]

I'll play.

16-Teams

(1) Towson vs. (16) Northern Iowa
(2) Northern Arizona vs. (15) Citadel
(3) Eastern Kentucky vs. (14) Howard
(4) Lehigh vs. (13) Samford
(5) UT-Martin vs. (12) Southern Illinois
(6) James Madison vs. (11) Albany
(7) Youngstown State vs. (10) McNeese State
(8) Indiana State vs. (9) Tennessee State

7th!! That's an insult to Y-town!! We beat Pitt xbopx

Seriously, I'd watch this tourney before I'd watch the "real" one! No.. not just because YSU's in it.. I like the team's on this list better from top to bottom.

[ysubigred]

Yes, our MVFC friends are telling us that Missouri State would have won the PL auto bid this year.

Easily xsalutex

[ysubigred]

The only weakness in this field is that sleeping giant Missouri State didn't get an invite.

xblahx
Had a much tougher schedule than the UPS team xdontknowx

[MTfan4life]

I'll play.

16-Teams

(1) Towson vs. (16) Northern Iowa
(2) Northern Arizona vs. (15) Citadel
(3) Eastern Kentucky vs. (14) Howard
(4) Lehigh vs. (13) Samford
(5) UT-Martin vs. (12) Southern Illinois
(6) James Madison vs. (11) Albany
(7) Youngstown State vs. (10) McNeese State
(8) Indiana State vs. (9) Tennessee State

If we're stretching out to 5-6 teams, Southern Utah did beat the #2 seed in the FCS playoffs and holds another solid Top 25 road win. UNI just has a home win over SDSU and a large bucket full of "well we almost beat that team" and "we would have dominated the PL/BSouth/NEC/etc" claims. ;)

[mmiller_34]

If we're stretching out to 5-6 teams, Southern Utah did beat the #2 seed in the FCS playoffs and holds another solid Top 25 road win. UNI just has a home win over SDSU and a large bucket full of "well we almost beat that team" and "we would have dominated the PL/BSouth/NEC/etc" claims. ;)

Northern Iowa got bumped for the PFL Champ, Haha

[URMite]

FCS NIT Championship Result

(3) Eastern Kentucky 22, (8) Richmond 30

Richmond Wins!!!! Now that my boredom has been quenched. Thoughts?

In a post game interview, the Richmond players were quoted as saying that "First being left out of this field too, then being seeded 8th was used as motivation to carry us through to the title!" xtroublex

[bjtheflamesfan]

I'll play too:

Top 4 seeds:

Towson
Lehigh
Northern Arizona
Eastern Kentucky


Towson Bracket

#16 Liberty vs. #1 Towson
#9 Tennessee State vs. #8 Indiana State

Northern Arizona Bracket:

#15 The Citadel vs. #2 Northern Arizona
#10 Albany vs. #7 Richmond

Lehigh Bracket
#14 Howard vs. #3 Lehigh
#11 Samford vs. #6 Youngstown State

Eastern Kentucky Bracket
#13 Sacramento State vs. #4 Eastern Kentucky
#12 Southern Illinois vs. #5 James Madison

I tried to limit it to teams that finished above .500 (which I think is a requirement in the basketball NIT)

[Sycamore62]

I assume the ESPNU3 selection show will feature an unknown announcer using a voice box and a former hockey player with a stuttering problem.

[BisonFan02]

I assume the ESPNU3 selection show will feature an unknown announcer using a voice box and a former hockey player with a stuttering problem.

Why the stuttering problem? There are plenty of other bored hockey players out there to choose from. Besides, I'm sure Barry Melrose has nothing else to do right now. :D

[ur2k]

FCS NIT Championship Result

(3) Eastern Kentucky 22, (8) Richmond 30

Richmond Wins!!!! Now that my boredom has been quenched. Thoughts?

xsmileyclapxxsmileyclapxxsmileyclapx

I can't wait for the banner to go up on the wall and the new flag to fly above Robins Stadium next year. I also can't wait to get my fictional NIT championship gear (sweatshirt, coffee mug) to go along with all of the 2008 real national champion swag we have.

All we needed was the snub from the committee to serve as motivation to carry us across the finish line.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

xsmileyclapxxsmileyclapxxsmileyclapx

I can't wait for the banner to go up on the wall and the new flag to fly above Robins Stadium next year. I also can't wait to get my fictional NIT championship gear (sweatshirt, coffee mug) to go along with all of the 2008 real national champion swag we have.

All we needed was the snub from the committee to serve as motivation to carry us across the finish line.

Lehigh apparently didn't get the memo xlolx

[LehighU11]

You would be better off doing the 100-game simulation instead of just one or two. That would be more accurate.

Unsatisfied with the sample size and seeing Lehigh bounced in the first round, I did the 100-game simulation. The average scores are posted with the results of all 100 simulations. Here's how the NIT played out:

FCS NIT First-Round Results

(1) Towson 42, (16) Butler 13. Towson wins 100 of 100.
(2) Northern Arizona 22, (15) Southern Illinois 18. NAU wins 67 of 100.
(3) Eastern Kentucky 35, (14) Howard 14. EKU wins 99 of 100.
(4) Lehigh 26, (13) Tennessee State 24. Lehigh wins 53 of 100.
(5) UT-Martin 22, (12) Samford 24. Samford wins 59 of 100.
(6) James Madison 26, (11) Albany 19. JMU wins 79 of 100.
(7) Youngstown State 29, (10) McNeese State 21. YSU wins 80 of 100.
(8) Richmond 24, (9) Indiana State 26. Indiana St. wins 62 of 100.

FCS NIT Quarterfinals
(1) Towson 24, (9) Indiana State 24. Not a typo. ISU wins 54 of 100.
(2) Northern Arizona 25, (7) Youngstown State 19. NAU wins 68 of 100.
(3) Eastern Kentucky 19, (6) James Madison 21. JMU wins 60 of 100.
(4) Lehigh 21, (12) Samford 25. Samford wins 64 of 100.

FCS NIT Semifinals
(9) Indiana State 26, (12) Samford 18. ISU wins 85 of 100.
(2) Northern Arizona 20, (6) James Madison 17. NAU wins 67 of 100.

FCS NIT Championship
(2) Northern Arizona 21, (9) INDIANA STATE 25. ISU wins 65 of 100 (58 as a road team, 72 as a home team). xhurrayx

I also ran through ISU-b at NDSU (since Sycamores were only team to win there this year)...Bison win 92 of 100 in the Fargodome. Hard to think of anyone knocking them off there again anytime soon.

[bjtheflamesfan]

where did you run your simulation?

[bjtheflamesfan]

Towson Bracket

#16 Liberty vs. #1 Towson Towson 35, Liberty 17
#9 Tennessee State vs. #8 Indiana State Indiana State 32, Tennessee State 19

Northern Arizona Bracket:

#15 The Citadel vs. #2 Northern Arizona Northern Arizona 24, The Citadel 20
#10 Albany vs. #7 Richmond Richmond 28, Albany 22

Lehigh Bracket
#14 Howard vs. #3 Lehigh Lehigh 35, Howard 18
#11 Samford vs. #6 Youngstown State Youngstown State 22, Samford 20

Eastern Kentucky Bracket
#13 Sacramento State vs. #4 Eastern Kentucky Sacramento State 26, Eastern Kentucky 25
#12 Southern Illinois vs. #5 James Madison JMU 21, Southern Illinois 17

Quarterfinals

#8 Indiana State vs. #1 Towson Indiana State 25, Towson 24
#7 Richmond vs. #2 Northern Arizona Northern Arizona 26, Richmond 21
#6 Youngstown State vs. #3 Lehigh Youngstown State 26, Lehigh 22
#13 Sacramento State vs. #5 James Madison James Madison 25, Sacramento State 17

Semifinals

#8 Indiana State vs. #5 James Madison James Madison 27, Indiana State 26
#6 Youngstown State vs. #2 Northern Arizona 25, Youngstown State 21

Final (@ Ford Field, Detroit)

#5 James Madison vs. #2 Northern Arizona Northern Arizona 20, JMU 16

[Sycamore62]

Unsatisfied with the sample size and seeing Lehigh bounced in the first round, I did the 100-game simulation. The average scores are posted with the results of all 100 simulations. Here's how the NIT played out:

FCS NIT First-Round Results

(1) Towson 42, (16) Butler 13. Towson wins 100 of 100.
(2) Northern Arizona 22, (15) Southern Illinois 18. NAU wins 67 of 100.
(3) Eastern Kentucky 35, (14) Howard 14. EKU wins 99 of 100.
(4) Lehigh 26, (13) Tennessee State 24. Lehigh wins 53 of 100.
(5) UT-Martin 22, (12) Samford 24. Samford wins 59 of 100.
(6) James Madison 26, (11) Albany 19. JMU wins 79 of 100.
(7) Youngstown State 29, (10) McNeese State 21. YSU wins 80 of 100.
(8) Richmond 24, (9) Indiana State 26. Indiana St. wins 62 of 100.

FCS NIT Quarterfinals
(1) Towson 24, (9) Indiana State 24. Not a typo. ISU wins 54 of 100.
(2) Northern Arizona 25, (7) Youngstown State 19. NAU wins 68 of 100.
(3) Eastern Kentucky 19, (6) James Madison 21. JMU wins 60 of 100.
(4) Lehigh 21, (12) Samford 25. Samford wins 64 of 100.

FCS NIT Semifinals
(9) Indiana State 26, (12) Samford 18. ISU wins 85 of 100.
(2) Northern Arizona 20, (6) James Madison 17. NAU wins 67 of 100.

FCS NIT Championship
(2) Northern Arizona 21, (9) INDIANA STATE 25. ISU wins 65 of 100 (58 as a road team, 72 as a home team). xhurrayx

I also ran through ISU-b at NDSU (since Sycamores were only team to win there this year)...Bison win 92 of 100 in the Fargodome. Hard to think of anyone knocking them off there again anytime soon.

I'd say this is accurate. Im not biased(sarcasm font). Prior to the NDSU ISUb game i would have given NDSU the 98 of 100 edge

[jmufan999]

And that's without any of these 7-4 teams that were all pretty dangerous

JMU
McNeese State
The Citadel
Samford
Indiana State
Youngstown State

JMU was not that dangerous. Past years, definitely. This year, not so much. Not nearly enough offense to be considered "dangerous". Appreciate the comment, though.

[LehighU11]

where did you run your simulation?

The previously mentioned link: http://www.nationalsportsrankings.com/index.php?option=com_oneonone

[LehighU11]

I'd say this is accurate. Im not biased(sarcasm font). Prior to the NDSU ISUb game i would have given NDSU the 98 of 100 edge

I agree. How anyone can beat a decent NDSU team in the Fargodome is beyond me. Huge credit to ISU-b for that accomplishment this year.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

What is actually pretty amazing is how awesomer and awesomer this idea sounds the more you think about it.

[Twentysix]

Yes, our MVFC friends are telling us that Missouri State would have won the PL auto bid this year.
missouri state beats drake 91 out of 100 times w/ msu at home; 82 out of 100 times with MSU as the away team.

Missouri state wins 95 out of 100 against butler with msu as the away team. 100 of 100 as the home team. Hard to argue ;)

Just realized I read your comment as PFL bid lol.