AGS Poll Results - Week 12 - 2012 Final Regular Season Poll

[AGSPoll]

1 North Dakota State Bison 1698 (66)
2 Montana State Bobcats 1584 (2)
3 Eastern Washington Eagles 1511
4 Old Dominion Monarchs 1506
5 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1327
6 Georgia Southern Eagles 1267
7 Appalachian State Mountaineers 1255
8 Central Arkansas Bears 1250
9 Cal Poly Mustangs 1105
10 Wofford Terriers 1006
11 Villanova Wildcats 866
12 Stony Brook Seawolves 844
13 Richmond Spiders 802
14 Illinois State Redbirds 782
15 New Hampshire Wildcats 769
16 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 764
17 Towson Tigers 683
18 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 509
19 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 460
20 James Madison Dukes 419
21 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 318
22 Albany Great Danes 273
23 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 247
24 Indiana State Sycamores 181
25 Colgate Raiders 176

Most Significant Win:
Towson Tigers

Most Significant Loss:
New Hampshire Wildcats


26 Eastern Illinois Panthers 143
27 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 106
28 Youngstown State Penguins 98
29 Wagner Seahawks 34
30 The Citadel Bulldogs 25
31 Southern Illinois Salukis 22
32 Harvard Crimson 16
33 Northern Iowa Panthers 13
34 McNeese State Cowboys 8
35T Samford Bulldogs 6
35T Sacramento State Hornets 6
37 Drake Bulldogs 5
38T Chattanooga Mocs 4
38T Southern Utah Thunderbirds 4
40 Pennsylvania Quakers 3

[BisonBacker]

Surprised Nova is ranked that high.

[Professor Chaos]

Hmmmm, AGS correctly projects 9 of 10 at larges accurately (Richmond over SDSU was the only miss). Let's see how the GPI does...

[HailSzczur]

Surprised Nova is ranked that high.

Me too. But the 10-20 range kind of was a toss up I thought

[danefan]

Hmmmm, AGS correctly projects 9 of 10 at larges accurately (Richmond over SDSU was the only miss). Let's see how the GPI does...

I too am very very interested.......

All teh AGS votes were in before the field was seeded right?

[BisonBacker]

Me too. But the 10-20 range kind of was a toss up I thought
Agreed.

[Professor Chaos]

I too am very very interested.......

All teh AGS votes were in before the field was seeded right?
I doubt it. My ballot was but I'm pretty sure they accepted them all they way up until noon ET today so it could've influenced voters who didn't submit their ballots that early.

[bluehenbillk]

Very good poll - well done people.

[BEAR]

#8 vs. #6 in the second round of the playoffs...nice. xthumbsupx

[TypicalTribe]

I think the interesting things to note in this poll are just as expected. First, Villanova jumped from #17 to #11 which was pretty healthy for a win over an unranked team, while Towson went only from #20 to #17. More interesting was that Towson was right behind SDSU last week and didn't pass them despite the 4 TD win over the #7 team in the country. Seems like the selections probably had a little bit of influence on the voting.

[Professor Chaos]

I think the interesting things to note in this poll are just as expected. First, Villanova jumped from #17 to #11 which was pretty healthy for a win over an unranked team, while Towson went only from #20 to #17. More interesting was that Towson was right behind SDSU last week and didn't pass them despite the 4 TD win over the #7 team in the country. Seems like the selections probably had a little bit of influence on the voting.
Not all spots are equal however. There's a big drop from 10 to 11 and a big drop from 17 to 18. As far as points go Towson is closer to #12 than they are to #18, they just came up a few (poll) points short of doing some serious moving like Villanova did.

[ysubigred]

1 North Dakota State Bison 1698 (66)
2 Montana State Bobcats 1584 (2)
3 Eastern Washington Eagles 1511
4 Old Dominion Monarchs 1506
5 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1327
6 Georgia Southern Eagles 1267
7 Appalachian State Mountaineers 1255
8 Central Arkansas Bears 1250
9 Cal Poly Mustangs 1105
10 Wofford Terriers 1006
11 Villanova Wildcats 866
12 Stony Brook Seawolves 844
13 Richmond Spiders 802
14 Illinois State Redbirds 782
15 New Hampshire Wildcats 769
16 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 764
17 Towson Tigers 683
18 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 509
19 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 460
20 James Madison Dukes 419
21 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 318
22 Albany Great Danes 273
23 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 247
24 Indiana State Sycamores 181
25 Colgate Raiders 176

Most Significant Win:
Towson Tigers

Most Significant Loss:
New Hampshire Wildcats


26 Eastern Illinois Panthers 143
27 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 106
28 Youngstown State Penguins 98
29 Wagner Seahawks 34
30 The Citadel Bulldogs 25
31 Southern Illinois Salukis 22
32 Harvard Crimson 16
33 Northern Iowa Panthers 13
34 McNeese State Cowboys 8
35T Samford Bulldogs 6
35T Sacramento State Hornets 6
37 Drake Bulldogs 5
38T Chattanooga Mocs 4
38T Southern Utah Thunderbirds 4
40 Pennsylvania Quakers 3

Not that it matters..."BUT" two of the teams YSU beat are ranked ahead of them and one team with the same 7-4 record xcrazyxxblahxxsalutex

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I too am very very interested.......

All teh AGS votes were in before the field was seeded right?

About 50 of the 68 ballots were in prior to the selection. I could figure it up with only those votes before the selection later if you'd like to see those as well just for comparison?

We shut it off last year prior to selections and just didn't this year because I didn't think about it since we were prepping for our Wedge Selection Sunday show.

[401ks]

xcoffeex

I voted after the selections came out, but I can definitely say that the selections had zero, zip, nada, bupkis influence on my votes.

xpeacex

[Pard4Life]

I also voted after the selection but based it off of my previous week's ballot and this week's results... and did not penalize for losing to an FBS team.

[BisonFan02]

Looks like the most sig win/loss wasn't that significant.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Looks like the most sig win/loss wasn't that significant.

no, all in all a pretty quiet week.

[BisonBacker]

I also voted after the selection but based it off of my previous week's ballot and this week's results... and did not penalize for losing to an FBS team.

I did the same

[ursus arctos horribilis]

xcoffeex

I voted after the selections came out, but I can definitely say that the selections had zero, zip, nada, bupkis influence on my votes.

xpeacex

Same here. UNH went down a good amount and Richmond, Towson etc. jumped up quite a bit as well as EIU dropping a little and EKU going up the chart if I remember right. I did not put Colgate in and left Lehigh in the 20-25 range. My thoughts on where the teams ranked had nothing to do with what the committee has to do.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Looks like the most sig win/loss wasn't that significant.

That is also a good indicator of when most votes were placed. People thought that game would matter when they voted.

[BisonFan02]

That is also a good indicator of when most votes were placed. People thought that game would matter when they voted.

That was kinda what I was going for. That, and a bit of a jab at the playoff selection committee. :D

[WileECoyote06]

oh dang it . . i forgot. . welp hope i'm not suspended this year.

[Walkon79]

3 teams in the top 10 and 4 in the top 20. Way to represent BSC!!!

[DSUrocks07]

My ballot, have at it.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Old Dominion Monarchs
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Appalachian State Mountaineers
6: Georgia Southern Eagles
7: Wofford Terriers
8: Stony Brook Seawolves
9: Sam Houston State Bearkats
10: Cal Poly Mustangs
11: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: James Madison Dukes
14: Towson Tigers
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
17: Villanova Wildcats
18: Richmond Spiders
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Albany Great Danes
21: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
22: Eastern Illinois Panthers
23: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
24: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
25: Youngstown State Penguins

[MacThor]

My ballot, have at it.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Old Dominion Monarchs
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Appalachian State Mountaineers
6: Georgia Southern Eagles
7: Wofford Terriers
8: Stony Brook Seawolves
9: Sam Houston State Bearkats
10: Cal Poly Mustangs
11: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: James Madison Dukes
14: Towson Tigers
15: Illinois State Redbirds
16: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
17: Villanova Wildcats
18: Richmond Spiders
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Albany Great Danes
21: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
22: Eastern Illinois Panthers
23: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
24: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
25: Youngstown State Penguins

OK I'll bite - JMU over two teams who beat them AND had better records than them?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Eastern Washington Eagles
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Old Dominion Monarchs
5: Central Arkansas Bears
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Georgia Southern Eagles
8: Cal Poly Mustangs
9: Appalachian State Mountaineers
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Wofford Terriers
12: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
13: Stony Brook Seawolves
14: Illinois State Redbirds
15: Richmond Spiders
16: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
17: Towson Tigers
18: New Hampshire Wildcats
19: Colgate Raiders
20: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
21: Wagner Seahawks
22: James Madison Dukes
23: Youngstown State Penguins
24: Albany Great Danes
25: Eastern Kentucky Colonels

[LehighU11]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Old Dominion Monarchs
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Central Arkansas Bears
6: Georgia Southern Eagles
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: Appalachian State Mountaineers
9: Towson Tigers
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Wofford Terriers
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Illinois State Redbirds
15: Richmond Spiders
16: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
17: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
18: Cal Poly Mustangs
19: James Madison Dukes
20: Indiana State Sycamores
21: Colgate Raiders
22: Harvard Crimson
23: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
24: Eastern Illinois Panthers
25: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats

[GoAgs72]

I voted after the selections but didn't even look at the selections until later Sunday evening. I was on the road back from the great win of UC Davis over Sac State.

[heath]

I think the interesting things to note in this poll are just as expected. First, Villanova jumped from #17 to #11 which was pretty healthy for a win over an unranked team, while Towson went only from #20 to #17. More interesting was that Towson was right behind SDSU last week and didn't pass them despite the 4 TD win over the #7 team in the country. Seems like the selections probably had a little bit of influence on the voting.

You are correct,had Towson or Lehigh made the field, the AGS experts that wanted the field to reflect their polls would have voted them higher. Kinda like tooting your own horn after the fact :(

[FargoBison]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Appalachian State Mountaineers
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: Georgia Southern Eagles
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: Towson Tigers
10: Wofford Terriers
11: Richmond Spiders
12: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
13: Cal Poly Mustangs
14: Illinois State Redbirds
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: Stony Brook Seawolves
17: New Hampshire Wildcats
18: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
19: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
20: Eastern Illinois Panthers
21: Youngstown State Penguins
22: James Madison Dukes
23: Indiana State Sycamores
24: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
25: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

[ursus arctos horribilis]

You are correct,had Towson or Lehigh made the field, the AGS experts that wanted the field to reflect their polls would have voted them higher. Kinda like tooting your own horn after the fact :(

Both teams you mention did get ranked higher than they were last week Keith, in spite of your claim. How can one man be so wrong so often. Expert is a valid word to describe it all since we're right so damn often. Thanks for recognizing.xthumbsupx

[ITmonarch10]

You are correct,had Towson or Lehigh made the field, the AGS experts that wanted the field to reflect their polls would have voted them higher. Kinda like tooting your own horn after the fact :(

I think Nova shooting up the AGS rankings was influenced by the fact they won the autobid. I think if ODU had lost vs JMU and we had to resort to Sargain Ratings, Richmond/Towson/JMU might of been the team who shot up the rankings depending on the outcome.

[heath]

Both teams you mention did get ranked higher than they were last week Keith, in spite of your claim. How can one man be so wrong so often. Expert is a valid word to describe it all since we're right so damn often. Thanks for recognizing.xthumbsupx

out of hibernation old manxlolxWhat exactly have you gotten right?Don't get pissy when your team is not still playingxthumbsupxGrow up Teddy Bear.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

out of hibernation old manxlolxWhat exactly have you gotten right?Don't get pissy when your team is not still playingxthumbsupxGrow up Teddy Bear.

I think you took me wrong there slick. I was telling you that the two subjects you chose went directly against what you said. I was correcting you.

My team is rarely out of the playoffs and I really don't sweat it too much to be honest. We've had as much or good fortune as anyone out there when it comes to playoff runs and so forth so it's pretty easy to handle actually.

You may not feel as blessed however. It's understandable.

We've gotten almost everything right. Check.

[Mr. C]

Why would ANYONE vote New Hampshire ahead of Towson after Saturday? That's my major beef with the AGS poll this week.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Why would ANYONE vote New Hampshire ahead of Towson after Saturday? That's my major beef with the AGS poll this week.

I don't get it either. In mine Towson was well ahead of UNH. In fact Richmond & Villanova were ahead of them as well. I haven't had UNH much higher than the 15 mark this season though cuz they just don't have the defense like they have in years past.

[Mr. C]

UNH has had bad defenses more years than not during their playoff run, but not this bad. Towson has put 120 points on them and Terrance West has run for almost 500 yards in the past two years. I've had them ranked more towards the 20-range most of the year. I'm not sold on Richmond, either, which lost by four (with a disputed TD that was taken away from UR) to UNH, but did managed to beat Villanova. In my mind, Towson and Villanova are the two most talented teams in that league.

[MTfan4life]

Why would ANYONE vote New Hampshire ahead of Towson after Saturday? That's my major beef with the AGS poll this week.

Clearly because UNH beat Central Connecticut State and Towson lost to LSU, duh. xcoffeex hehe

[FargoBison]

I don't get it either. In mine Towson was well ahead of UNH. In fact Richmond & Villanova were ahead of them as well. I haven't had UNH much higher than the 15 mark this season though cuz they just don't have the defense like they have in years past.

Towson is my highest rated CAA team outside of ODU, every fan with a team in the playoffs should be very happy they were left out.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Towson is my highest rated CAA team outside of ODU, every fan with a team in the playoffs should be very happy they were left out.

Same here. I don't think there are but maybe 9 teams in the playoffs that could match up with em' and give em' a proper game.

[JMUNJ08]

Same here. I don't think there are but maybe 9 teams in the playoffs that could match up with em' and give em' a proper game.

I can name the only non-playoff team that could match up with them....

[GreatAppSt]

and did not penalize for losing to an FBS team.


I did the same

Did y'all drop teams earlier in the season for an FBS loss?

[BisonBacker]

Did y'all drop teams earlier in the season for an FBS loss?

Pretty sure I didn't. I don't see teams losing to an FBS squad as an immediate reason to drop them unless said FBS squad was a doormat at the FBS level and the FCS team playing them got smoked.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Did y'all drop teams earlier in the season for an FBS loss?

Only drops I made were to jump a team that had a good win.

[BisonBacker]

I should say also that last year I took the year off from the poll but had participated in previous years. I like to think I'm getting better at putting together a good ballot however it's a learning process. When I say learning I'm referring to learning more about other conferences and it's teams. Putting forth some effort to study scores/stats and watch games that I can watch either online or on television. I still have a ways to go but I plan on participating next year and hopefully becoming a more educated FCS football fan.

[WrenFGun]

I don't get it either. In mine Towson was well ahead of UNH. In fact Richmond & Villanova were ahead of them as well. I haven't had UNH much higher than the 15 mark this season though cuz they just don't have the defense like they have in years past.

Same. There's no doubt in my mind that Towson is the second best team in the CAA. I haven't seen 'Nova enough to say, but UR/UNH are pretty similar.

[HailSzczur]

Bump. I know you should re-rank, and not just shuffle teams around, but it may help to see what we we're thinking going into the playoffs