Maryland to Big Ten, Rutgers may be next

[narc]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBC_BIG_TEN_EXPANSION?SITE=VANOV&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Someone please make this stop...

[Vitojr130]

I really hope this is a joke.

[Apphole]

Big East adds ECU and UMASS. CUSA replaces ECU with MTSU and the MAC replaces UMASS with JMU. Sunbelt either fills their one spot with App or decides to go to 12 teams, adding App, GaSo and Liberty.

Sounds feasible enough?

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I think this is all a plot to distract from the FCS playoff committees postseason choices... :P

[BisonBacker]

I really hope this is a joke.

Nope heard them talking about it yesterday on Sid and Dave. I don't agree with it either but the conference (Big10) is positioning itself for the future. Expect more of the same from other conferences in the future.

[Griz_are_Beta_AF]

I read on ESPN that Maryland was voting for it this morning, and it was expected to be a close vote because some board members didn't hear about it until recently. As a Big 10 fan, I desperately hope this doesn't happen. I figure they're doing it to try and grow their fan base farther east.

[Laker]

One of my D2 buddies just posted this: "Maryland's board has unanimously approved a move to the Big Ten. Press conference coming at 3:00"

I don't like it- I don't like it at all. But it looks like this is going to happen.

This would bring Brenda Frese back to Williams Arena- as the opposing coach.

[Vitojr130]

Nope heard them talking about it yesterday on Sid and Dave. I don't agree with it either but the conference (Big10) is positioning itself for the future. Expect more of the same from other conferences in the future.

Well, I can understand trying to make their own stars align... but MARYLAND!? Could the B1G not do better??

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I read on ESPN that Maryland was voting for it this morning, and it was expected to be a close vote because some board members didn't hear about it until recently. As a Big 10 fan, I desperately hope this doesn't happen. I figure they're doing it to try and grow their fan base farther east.

It's all about the Big 10 Network charging big fees to Maryland, DC, and NJ cable providers. Maryland wants the move so they stop the fiscal bleeding in their athletics department. Rutgers just wants out of the new Big East.

[superman7515]

Already a thread on this...

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?124210-ASU-GSU-JMU-to-the-FBS-Eastern-Conf-Realignment

[Franks Tanks]

I read on ESPN that Maryland was voting for it this morning, and it was expected to be a close vote because some board members didn't hear about it until recently. As a Big 10 fan, I desperately hope this doesn't happen. I figure they're doing it to try and grow their fan base farther east.

It was rumored that Penn State was thinking about moving to the ACC. Adding addition Eastern School like Maryland and Rutgers should ensure that PSU sticks around.

[Laker]

It was rumored that Penn State was thinking about moving to the ACC. Adding addition Eastern School like Maryland and Rutgers should ensure that PSU sticks around.

Seriously? I have never heard a word about that. Why would they have even considered that?

[HailSzczur]

I hope Nicastro is on his way to ACC offices to grovel and plead for the ACC to take us in..... Not sure the likely hood, but he has to try

[Franks Tanks]

Well, I can understand trying to make their own stars align... but MARYLAND!? Could the B1G not do better??

What's wrong with Maryland? Basketball team is good to very good, and they are good at sports like lax and soccer. Football needs some work, but they are no worse than mant current Big 10 teams.

Rutgers would be more of a reach. Word is that Georgia Tech desperately wants an invite as well.

[TheRevSFA]

Big East adds ECU and UMASS. CUSA replaces ECU with MTSU and the MAC replaces UMASS with JMU. Sunbelt either fills their one spot with App or decides to go to 12 teams, adding App, GaSo and Liberty.

Sounds feasible enough?

Except the Sun Belt will fill with former conference mate, Lamar, seeing as how they can tap into the Houston market.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I hope Nicastro is on his way to ACC offices to grovel and plead for the ACC to take us in..... Not sure the likely hood, but he has to try

FWIW I think they're a better candidate than UConn. At least one president, BC's, would be a lot more in favor of the Wildcats.

[Franks Tanks]

Seriously? I have never heard a word about that. Why would they have even considered that?

Because 90% of PSU alums live east or south of PSU and mostly hate the Big 10. It is internet rumors mostly, but I wouldd't be surpised if PSU actually thought about it.

[kdinva]

..... but MARYLAND!? Could the B1G not do better??

Brady Hoke, Urban Meyer, and Bo Pelini all just wet themselves w/fear xlolx

[Lehigh Football Nation]

What's wrong with Maryland? Basketball team is good to very good, and they are good at sports like lax and soccer. Football needs some work, but they are no worse than mant current Big 10 teams.

Rutgers would be more of a reach. Word is that Georgia Tech desperately wants an invite as well.

The problem with Maryland is an underreported fiscal crisis.

[Laker]

What's wrong with Maryland? Basketball team is good to very good, and they are good at sports like lax and soccer. Football needs some work, but they are no worse than mant current Big 10 teams.

Rutgers would be more of a reach. Word is that Georgia Tech desperately wants an invite as well.

I wouldn't mind Maryland, just that they are so far away. Of course I've been to Penn State and that is a long ways from Minnesota.

Rutgers- no. I wouldn't pick them.

[tribe_pride]

The problem with Maryland is an underreported fiscal crisis.

Rumor has it that Plank, MD Alum and CEO of Under Armour, is fronting the exit fee and MD would get a rumored $7-10 million more in the Big Ten. That could help reduce the crisis.

[Laker]

Rumor has it that Plank, MD Alum and CEO of Under Armour, is fronting the exit fee and MD would get a rumored $7-10 million more in the Big Ten. That could help reduce the crisis.

I wonder if they will have to pay the $50 million exit fee that they and FSU voted against.

[DFW HOYA]

I hope Nicastro is on his way to ACC offices to grovel and plead for the ACC to take us in..... Not sure the likely hood, but he has to try

Unlikely for the same reasons as Georgetown:

1. No I-A football. (Had Pitt not stalled that Big East vote to admit last year, maybe a different story.)
2. Weak institutional support for athletics relative to BCS schools.
3. Poor (or in Georgetown's case, even worse) campus facilities.
4. Small alumni/fan base for TV purposes.
5. Little or no ability to absorb multi-million dollar losses to make capital improvements deemed necessary by the conference.

[Franks Tanks]

I wouldn't mind Maryland, just that they are so far away. Of course I've been to Penn State and that is a long ways from Minnesota.

Rutgers- no. I wouldn't pick them.

Right, these conference expansions do little for the fan. Back in the day Penn State road games were at Boston College, Maryland and Syracuse. Now fans have to travel to Nebraska and Minnesota.

I'm sure Iowa doesn't like sending their team to Maryland either. As we know geographic or institutional simialrity just doesn't count anymore- just the $.

[aceinthehole]

If ND moves football into the ACC (a very long shot), the ACC needs to do nothing but keep all the remaining members in the fold.

Otherwise, I would assume the replacement for Maryland comes down to:
1) UConn
2) Louisville
3) Cincy (long-shot)

As long as ND remains a partial member, I guess there is some hope that the ACC might add 1 to 3 basketball schools from G-town, 'Nova, St. Johns.

[Laker]

As we know geographic or institutional simialrity just doesn't count anymore- just the $.

Like Boise and San Diego State being in the Big East. I wonder if they are having second thoughts now?

[Laker]

If ND moves football into the ACC (a very long shot), the ACC needs to do nothing but keep all the remaining members in the fold.

Otherwise, I would assume the replacement for Maryland comes down to:
1) UConn
2) Louisville
3) Cincy (long-shot)

As long as ND remains a partial member, I guess there is some hope that the ACC might add 1 to 3 basketball schools from G-town, 'Nova, St. Johns.

I wouldn't think that they would take in non-football schools since that is where the big money is from TV.

[Griz_are_Beta_AF]

It's all about the Big 10 Network charging big fees to Maryland, DC, and NJ cable providers. Maryland wants the move so they stop the fiscal bleeding in their athletics department. Rutgers just wants out of the new Big East.

But it's going to cost Maryland $50 million to leave, I mean they can clearly afford it as they voted it to happen but it seems a bit ridiculous that with them not funding their sports as well lately that they'd move conferences.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Like Boise and San Diego State being in the Big East. I wonder if they are having second thoughts now?

I'm starting to be disappointed in Temple's decision to move to the Big East. The A10 is so solid in hoops and the MAC was honestly fun in football.

[CHIP72]

Right, these conference expansions do little for the fan. Back in the day Penn State road games were at Boston College, Maryland and Syracuse. Now fans have to travel to Nebraska and Minnesota.

I'm sure Iowa doesn't like sending their team to Maryland either. As we know geographic or institutional simialrity just doesn't count anymore- just the $.

I don't know about you Franks Tanks, but I would much rather see Penn State play Pitt, Syracuse, West Virginia, etc. - its old eastern independent rivals - than play a whole bunch of Midwest schools. Penn State joining the Big Ten is actually part of the reason I'm posting here; I lost a lot of interest in Division I-A football when the Nits moved there 20 years ago. If PSU was still playing its old rivals (which ironically includes Maryland, so UMD's Big Ten move isn't all bad) and some other teams that make sense, like Virginia and Virginia Tech, I'd probably have considerably less interest in Division I-AA (and II and III) football because I'd be paying more attention to Penn State (and Temple, who essentially replaced PSU as my Division I-A team).

[CHIP72]

I'm starting to be disappointed in Temple's decision to move to the Big East. The A10 is so solid in hoops and the MAC was honestly fun in football.

If only TPTB in the Big East had listened to Joe Paterno back in the early 1980s rather than being controlled by basketball guys from small, private schools...we'd have a football conference with Penn State, Pitt, Syracuse, West Virginia, Boston College, Rutgers, Temple, and possibly Connecticut, Maryland, Virginia, and Virginia Tech in it instead of those schools being spread across 4 different conferences. That would be so much better for Division I-A eastern football IMO.

BTW, did you know that Temple was the first Philadelphia school invited to join the Big East 30+ years ago? Temple turned down the invite because they wanted to be in a conference with Penn State for football, so the Big East asked Villanova as their second choice. Had Villanova decided not to join the Big East, the conference would have asked St. Joe's to join.

[Franks Tanks]

I don't know about you Franks Tanks, but I would much rather see Penn State play Pitt, Syracuse, West Virginia, etc. - its old eastern independent rivals - than play a whole bunch of Midwest schools. Penn State joining the Big Ten is actually part of the reason I'm posting here; I lost a lot of interest in Division I-A football when the Nits moved there 20 years ago. If PSU was still playing its old rivals (which ironically includes Maryland, so UMD's Big Ten move isn't all bad) and some other teams that make sense, like Virginia and Virginia Tech, I'd probably have considerably less interest in Division I-AA (and II and III) football because I'd be paying more attention to Penn State (and Temple, who essentially replaced PSU as my Division I-A team).

I am old enough that I grew up on the old PSU schedule. I think PSU had to join the Big 10 nearly 20 years ago because it was the best option at the time, but the conference you talk about would be the best option for PSU and many other Eastern schools.

[walliver]

But it's going to cost Maryland $50 million to leave, I mean they can clearly afford it as they voted it to happen but it seems a bit ridiculous that with them not funding their sports as well lately that they'd move conferences.

I doubt Maryland pays anything near $50. I don't know how enforceable the current ACC exit fee will be, but I suspect the buyout will be smaller.

It is strange that they leave now. In the past MD was on the geographic edge of the conference, now they are in the middle.

[Cocky]

Big East adds ECU and UMASS. CUSA replaces ECU with MTSU and the MAC replaces UMASS with JMU. Sunbelt either fills their one spot with App or decides to go to 12 teams, adding App, GaSo and Liberty.

Sounds feasible enough?

App and Ga So markets are too small. The SB will look elsewhere.

[Twentysix]

as of 2010 Rutgers 430m and Maryland 450m were within 19 million dollars of eachother in research.

Georiga Tech 600m+ a few hundred million ahead of both. Academically I buy all 3 schools.

[813Jag]

Now we can get that matchup of Angry Iowa Running Back Hating God (AIRBHG) vs Angry Maryland QB Hating God (AMQBHG)

[UNDBIZ]

It was rumored that Penn State was thinking about moving to the ACC. Adding addition Eastern School like Maryland and Rutgers should ensure that PSU sticks around.

As a college hockey fan, I really wish Penn St would've left the Big10 before effing everything up....

[Laker]

Well, Maryland had their press conference yesterday. What time is the Rutgers announcement?

And who is the next school to change conferences? Vegas could have a field day with this.

[813Jag]

Well, Maryland had their press conference yesterday. What time is the Rutgers announcement?

And who is the next school to change conferences? Vegas could have a field day with this.
Probably won't happen, but for me I'd like to see FSU leave the ACC.

[superman7515]

Probably won't happen, but for me I'd like to see FSU leave the ACC.

Yes and no. We have an easier path with the ACC than we would have in the SEC or Big 12. Not exactly a lot of powerhouse schools in the ACC, especially since the fall of Miami.

[813Jag]

Yes and no. We have an easier path with the ACC than we would have in the SEC or Big 12. Not exactly a lot of powerhouse schools in the ACC, especially since the fall of Miami.
I agree with you, guess ACC refs wore me out this year. I never was a fan of the ACC move in the first place.

[Laker]

Probably won't happen, but for me I'd like to see FSU leave the ACC.

I saw that Maryland and FSU had voted against the fifty million fee to leave the ACC. The Big 12 should grab them if the SEC won't take them.

[Laker]

For those of you who love the Leaders and Legends titles as much as I do xflamemadx

Maryland prez tells regents MD, RU in Leaders Division w/OSU, PSU, Wisconsin, Purdue & Indiana. Illinois moves to Legends

[813Jag]

I saw that Maryland and FSU had voted against the fifty million fee to leave the ACC. The Big 12 should grab them if the SEC won't take them.
yeah, they increased the fee from 20 mil when the FSU/Big 12 rumors started over the summer. I just wish better football moves had been made by the ACC. Although Syracuse is improving.







I know it's crazy that an FSU fan is criticizing other football programs after our 3 down years

[Gil Dobie]

Rumors on talk radio this morning are Georgia Tech is next for the B1G. The B1G wants to expand to 16 asap, and with the lure of the B1G network money, they will get to 16. Minor change to the logo B16.

[Twentysix]

Rumors on talk radio this morning are Georgia Tech is next for the B1G. The B1G wants to expand to 16 asap, and with the lure of the B1G network money, they will get to 16. Minor change to the logo B16.

Texas and Notre Dame would be a great addition. ;)

[Gil Dobie]

Texas and Notre Dame would be a great addition. ;)

From the Nittany Lions Den
Linky (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?124366-Maryland-to-Big-Ten-Rutgers-may-be-next/page5)


But several reports have mentioned Georgia Tech, which would be interesting. North Carolina and Virginia are other names that have come up

[Twentysix]

From the Nittany Lions Den
Linky (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?124366-Maryland-to-Big-Ten-Rutgers-may-be-next/page5)

North Carolina or Pitt would make alot of Sense academically. Would UNC seperate from Duke? Maybe go after both? Would Penn state cry about Pitt?

[Twentysix]

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****
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****
1 ****Johns Hopkins U., Thea 2,004,482
2 ****U. MI-Ann Arbor 1,184,445
3 ****U. WI-Madison 1,029,295
4 ****U. WA Seattle 1,022,740
5 ****Duke U. 983,289
****
6 ****U. CA, San Diego 943,219
7 ****U. CA, Los Angeles 936,995
8 ****U. CA, San Francisco 935,509
9 ****Stanford U. 839,839
10 ****U. PA 836,322
****
11 ****U. Pittsburgh main campus 822,491
12 ****Columbia U. in the City of New York 807,235
13 ****U. MN Twin Cities 786,074
14 ****PA State U. University Park and
******Hershey Medical Ctr. 770,449
15 ****U. NC Chapel Hill 755,284
****
16 ****OH State U. 755,194
17 ****Cornell U. 749,721
18 ****Washington U. St. Louis 695,974
19 ****U. CA, Berkeley 694,049
20 ****TX A&M U. 689,624
****
21 ****U. FL 681,548
22 ****U. CA, Davis 679,915
23 ****MA Institute of Technology 677,138
24 ****Yale U. 623,510
25 ****GA Institute of Technology 615,833
****
26 ****Northwestern U. 603,732
27 ****U. TX M. D. Anderson Cancer Ctr. 599,529
28 ****U. Southern CA 592,791
29 ****U. TX Austin 589,502
30 ****U. AZ 586,647
****
31 ****Harvard U. 583,361
32 ****Purdue U. main campus 548,980
33 ****Emory U. 529,453
34 ****U. IL Urbana-Champaign 515,133
35 ****Vanderbilt U. 504,959
****
36 ****U. AL Birmingham, The 489,845
37 ****U. MD College Park 451,415
38 ****Baylor C. of Medicine 447,874
39 ****U. IA 444,034
40 ****U. Chicago 437,721
****
41 ****MI State U. 431,373
42 ****Rutgers, the State U. NJ-New
******Brunswick 428,432
43 ****U. TX Southwestern Medical Ctr.
******Dallas 419,220
44 ****Case Western Reserve U. 418,164
45 ****U. Rochester 414,655
****
46 ****U. Cincinnati 411,269
47 ****VA Polytechnic Institute and
******State U. 398,169
48 ****U. CO at Denver and Health
******Sciences Ctr. 389,461
49 ****Scripps Research Institute, The 387,298
50 ****U. South FL 385,029
****
51 ****U. UT 379,200
52 ****U. MD Baltimore 374,036
53 ****Mt. Sinai School of Medicine 370,666
54 ****NY U. 365,944
55 ****U. IL Chicago 362,939
****
56 ****CA Institute of Technology 362,172
57 ****NC State U. 360,795
58 ****U. KY 359,944

All numbers posted are in thousands U KY is 359,944,000 etc.

[Gil Dobie]

58 team conference would be cool ;)


Rank Institution All R&D expenditures Federal government State and local government Business Nonprofit organizations Institution funds All other sources
****
All institutions 61,234,893 37,487,673 3,853,598 3,209,441 3,764,291 11,897,220 1,022,670
****
1 ****Johns Hopkins U., Thea 2,004,482
2 ****U. MI-Ann Arbor 1,184,445
3 ****U. WI-Madison 1,029,295
4 ****U. WA Seattle 1,022,740
5 ****Duke U. 983,289
6 ****U. CA, San Diego 943,219
7 ****U. CA, Los Angeles 936,995
8 ****U. CA, San Francisco 935,509
9 ****Stanford U. 839,839
10 ****U. PA 836,322
11 ****U. Pittsburgh main campus 822,491
12 ****Columbia U. in the City of New York 807,235
13 ****U. MN Twin Cities 786,074
14 ****PA State U. University Park and
******Hershey Medical Ctr. 770,449
15 ****U. NC Chapel Hill 755,284
****
16 ****OH State U. 755,194
17 ****Cornell U. 749,721
18 ****Washington U. St. Louis 695,974
19 ****U. CA, Berkeley 694,049
20 ****TX A&M U. 689,624
****
21 ****U. FL 681,548
22 ****U. CA, Davis 679,915
23 ****MA Institute of Technology 677,138
24 ****Yale U. 623,510
25 ****GA Institute of Technology 615,833
****
26 ****Northwestern U. 603,732
27 ****U. TX M. D. Anderson Cancer Ctr. 599,529
28 ****U. Southern CA 592,791
29 ****U. TX Austin 589,502 350,308 24,389 56,448 37,423 116,583 4,351
30 ****U. AZ 586,647 308,157 31,656 19,618 23,975 176,331 26,910
****
31 ****Harvard U. 583,361 474,899 2,902 24,135 72,974 0 8,451
32 ****Purdue U. main campus 548,980 232,564 59,288 29,593 39,288 186,948 1,299
33 ****Emory U. 529,453 336,986 331 16,363 45,117 128,793 1,863
34 ****U. IL Urbana-Champaign 515,133 303,852 30,395 13,661 703 133,148 33,374
35 ****Vanderbilt U. 504,959 397,656 954 10,186 22,366 68,598 5,199
****
36 ****U. AL Birmingham, The 489,845 325,103 760 22,660 26,565 114,757 0
37 ****U. MD College Park 451,415 297,896 16,483 9,118 3,672 117,916 6,330
38 ****Baylor C. of Medicine 447,874 284,072 2,491 14,213 36,132 88,150 22,816
39 ****U. IA 444,034 282,465 6,004 15,670 21,767 117,704 424
40 ****U. Chicago 437,721 352,728 297 19,273 27,523 35,371 2,529
****
41 ****MI State U. 431,373 214,134 47,797 3,717 12,817 140,931 11,977
42 ****Rutgers, the State U. NJ-New
******Brunswick 428,432 224,894 75,346 10,988 17,870 85,848 13,486
43 ****U. TX Southwestern Medical Ctr.
******Dallas 419,220 232,027 49,817 19,616 44,843 42,634 30,283
44 ****Case Western Reserve U. 418,164 333,689 9,261 6,627 17,536 50,292 759
45 ****U. Rochester 414,655 322,048 8,993 20,266 12,038 43,308 8,002
****
46 ****U. Cincinnati 411,269 262,513 7,419 18,410 24,194 98,733 0
47 ****VA Polytechnic Institute and
******State U. 398,169 162,566 97,409 21,256 18,507 95,925 2,506
48 ****U. CO at Denver and Health
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50 ****U. South FL 385,029 243,017 32,548 13,862 12,959 81,294 1,349
****
51 ****U. UT 379,200 227,021 1,422 18,060 18,108 113,847 742
52 ****U. MD Baltimore 374,036 208,246 23,789 17,095 39,357 85,409 140
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55 ****U. IL Chicago 362,939 232,380 9,216 5,975 23,804 91,564 0
****
56 ****CA Institute of Technology 362,172 328,522 1,347 8,138 17,513 3,706 2,946
57 ****NC State U. 360,795 139,096 98,382 37,097 4,431 81,667 122
58 ****U. KY 359,944 171,528 41,482 12,157 10,108 124,669 0

All numbers posted are in thousands U KY is 359,944,000 etc.

[Twentysix]

58 team conference would be cool ;)


Just listing the Academic candidates. Obviously alot of different things are factored when the Big ten selects a school for invitation.

AAU is very important to the Big Ten, RD bugets are then inherintly important. I am sure they want to avoid another Nebraska.

Academics***AAU membership***RD budget***Market***Potential

RD budget is probably a major reason the Big Ten didnt want Mizzou, isn't pursuing KU or KState(Not an AAU member), or Iowa State. They all have weaker RD than Nebraska and UNL recently got the boot out of the AAU, after gaining Big Ten membership.


"All the Big Ten schools are AAU members," Nebraska Chancellor Harvey Perlman said. "I doubt that our application would've been accepted had we not been a member of the organization."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-06-13/sports/ct-spt-0614-aau-big-ten-expansion--20100613_1_aau-nebraska-chancellor-harvey-perlman-big-ten-members

[Franks Tanks]

Just listing the Academic candidates. Obviously alot of different things are factored when the Big ten selects a school for invitation.

AAU is very important to the Big Ten, RD bugets are then inherintly important. I am sure they want to avoid another Nebraska.

Academics***AAU membership***RD budget***Market***Potential

RD budget is probably a major reason the Big Ten didnt want Mizzou, isn't pursuing KU or KState(Not an AAU member), or Iowa State. They all have weaker RD than Nebraska and UNL recently got the boot out of the AAU, after gaining Big Ten membership.


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-06-13/sports/ct-spt-0614-aau-big-ten-expansion--20100613_1_aau-nebraska-chancellor-harvey-perlman-big-ten-members

There are about 1,000 reasons why the Big 10 wouldn't want Iowa State or Kansas State, and AAU status in way down on the list. Pitt is also not being considered.

VA, VA Tech, UNC and Georgia Tech are next up for Big 10 membership (but they will only take 2).

Both Virginia schools may be most likley, but UVA and UNC would the the most desirable.

[asucrutch23]

Add Kentucky and Louisville to the ACC, and send VT to the SEC. Problem solved. One conference is football powers, the other basketball powers.

Oh yeah, Big 10 can have GT and BC too. No way UVA or UNC goes to the Big 10.

[813Jag]

Add Kentucky and Louisville to the ACC, and send VT to the SEC. Problem solved. One conference is football powers, the other basketball powers.

Oh yeah, Big 10 can have GT and BC too. No way UVA or UNC goes to the Big 10.
wouldn't exactly call Clemson or FSU basketball powers

[asucrutch23]

wouldn't exactly call Clemson or FSU basketball powers

Very true but you get my point. Hey they had Sam Cassell and Horace Grant!!

[Franks Tanks]

Add Kentucky and Louisville to the ACC, and send VT to the SEC. Problem solved. One conference is football powers, the other basketball powers.

Oh yeah, Big 10 can have GT and BC too. No way UVA or UNC goes to the Big 10.



The Big 10 isn't taking Boston College. Why would they do that? Personally I think Ga Tech is a bit of a long shot, but I wouldn't be totally shocked.

It is more likley that UVA goes to the Big 10 than it is for Kentucky to leave the SEC.

[asucrutch23]

The Big 10 isn't taking Boston College. Why would they do that? Personally I think Ga Tech is a bit of a long shot, but I wouldn't be totally shocked.

It is more likley that UVA goes to the Big 10 than it is for Kentucky to leave the SEC.

Yeah, I'm speaking more in an ideal world. I realize this is not a likely scenario. Still doubt very much that UVA or UNC goes to the Big 10.

[Franks Tanks]

Yeah, I'm speaking more in an ideal world. I realize this is not a likely scenario. Still doubt very much that UVA or UNC goes to the Big 10.

Yes, but an extra 20 million a year can be rather persuasive.

[asucrutch23]

UNC isn't going anywhere without Duke. UVA may be another story but I don't see it.

[813Jag]

Very true but you get my point. Hey they had Sam Cassell and Horace Grant!!
I get what you're saying but I'd rather be with the football schools

[asucrutch23]

I get what you're saying but I'd rather be with the football schools

I'm also thinking VT has a much better shot at the SEC than FSU or Clemson, since they already have Florida and South Carolina. Again, not a likely scenario. Just throwing around some ideas. I think UK would love to be with UNC and Duke.

[813Jag]

I'm also thinking VT has a much better shot at the SEC than FSU or Clemson, since they already have Florida and South Carolina. Again, not a likely scenario. Just throwing around some ideas. I think UK would love to be with UNC and Duke.
That I agree with you that, I wouldn't mind Big 12 or SEC.

[Laker]

Has anyone seen this yet? These are his predictions. Evidently Ohio State has more leaks than the White House.

http://www.eersauthority.com/expansion-update-acc-on-the-brink/

Pretty interesting and wild.

Big 10 adds: UVA, Georgia Tech and UNC.

SEC adds NC State & Virginia Tech

Big 12 adds FSU, Clemson, Louisville , and Miami.

Left out: Pitt, Boston College, Duke, Wake, Syracuse

[Laker]

Here is a newer post by the same guy that goes into more detail.

http://www.eersauthority.com/expansion-update-unc-duke-wont-go-down-without-a-fight/

[MorgantonAPPAlum]

Has anyone seen this yet? These are his predictions. Evidently Ohio State has more leaks than the White House.

http://www.eersauthority.com/expansion-update-acc-on-the-brink/

Pretty interesting and wild.



Big 10 adds: UVA, Georgia Tech and UNC.

SEC adds NC State & Virginia Tech

Big 12 adds FSU, Clemson, Louisville , and Miami.

Left out: Pitt, Boston College, Duke, Wake, Syracuse

Breathless hyperbole-Carolina will not go anywhere without Duke.

[ngineer]

Rutgers in the Big Ten will be great. I would think once we get to our 60 scholarships that our old series with the Scarlet Knights of the Raritan that was suspended in 1977 can be resurrected. Not every year but a rotation with Lafayette and Villanova would be nice.