NASCAR Team Sold

[UNHWildCats]

Robby Gordon who owns and drives the no. 7 car, has purchased Robert Yates Racing, the sale includes the 38, 88 and busch teams but not the engine building department.

Elliot Sadler has been released from his contract and is expected to take over the #19 Evernham dodge this weekend that was driven previously by Jeremy Mayfield who was fired last week in a ugly seperation.

Mayfield is rumored to be possibly heading to one of the new Toyota teams. Rookie Gilliand is expected to take over the 30 M&Ms dodge this weekend as reports say his name has already been painted onto the car.

[Ivytalk]

I hear that Ricky Bobby was a silent partner in the deal!:D

Hilarious movie, by the way!!

[LacesOut]

Gordon has $$$$ like that???

And good lord, NASCAR, with the drivers changing teams like they have been lately, has established a bit of free agency, like the other pro sports.

[AZGrizFan]

I hear that Ricky Bobby was a silent partner in the deal!:D

Hilarious movie, by the way!!

Hilarious is right. And it's about the ONLY way I can watch anything NASCAR related. xidiotx xidiotx xidiotx xidiotx xidiotx

[grizbeer]

has this been confirmed - last I saw on Jayski it was denied by RYR?

[saint0917]

Robby Gordon who owns and drives the no. 7 car, has purchased Robert Yates Racing, the sale includes the 38, 88 and busch teams but not the engine building department.


I don't know where you got your info but it's wrong. Robby Gordon will DRIVE the 88 BUSCH car, he did NOT buy Roberts Yates Racing. :rolleyes:

MOORESVILLE, N.C. -- JR Motorsports announced Monday that Robby Gordon will take the helm of the No. 88 Navy Accelerate Your Life Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS for the Busch Series events at Michigan International Speedway and California Speedway.

Team officials confirmed Monday they will use Gordon for those races because Shane Huffman, 32, whom the team plans to use for the remainder of the series in the car, has yet to receive clearance for those venues.

"We're looking to improve our performance in the Busch Series, so we've been making changes to get to where we need to be," team owner Dale Earnhardt Jr. said. "Martin [Truex Jr.] was a big help last week and we're going to continue our due diligence with Robby Gordon this weekend in Michigan. He brings a ton of experience and will be able to relay some good feedback on our cars.

R. Gordon to drive No. 88 Chevy at MIS, Fontana (http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/headlines/bg/08/14/rgordon_navy/index.html)

[89Hen]

#19 Evernham dodge this weekend that was driven previously by Jeremy Mayfield who was fired last week in a ugly seperation.
Man, Mayfield was one of my favorites when he drove the #12 car. The #19 stinks on ice this year. : smh :

[goasu984Life]

Robby Gordon Motorsports denied Tuesday that it had agreed in principle to purchase underperforming Robert Yates Racing.

"The rumor that we have consummated a deal to purchase Robert Yates Racing is just that, a rumor," said John Story, RGM's general manager and CEO. "For months we have been talking to multiple sponsors and teams, and while one of those teams is Robert Yates Racing, we have not purchased Robert's program."

http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/headlines/cup/08/16/rgordon.ryr/index.html

[jstate83]

Not changing the thread ..........................Just didn't want to start another NASCAR thread.:D

Question?

How do ya'll think the Toyota Camry is going to do against Ford, GM, ETC.

There's a lot of hu-bub about Toyota just throwing Corporate money at their team. They said the team will have to get the lion share of their racing budget money like every other team........................By selling advertising space.

Ya'll think the Camry can run with the Monte Carlo's and Taurases of NASCAR.
Do you think Toyota will keep their word about how they will fund their team?

[grizbeer]

I think in a couple years Toyota will dominate Nextel Cup the same way the dominate the truck series now, and for the same reason - they simply can afford the best.

I believe the teams will have to support themselves, but that is really just a twist in how you do your accounting. The teams will be responsible for paying salaries, sheet metal, tires, etc from their advertising revenue, but Toyota will fund 100% of the research, which is where the real money is in NASCAR (engines, wind tunnel, shocks/springs, etc). For example Toyota will have cars that they take to the wind tunnel for extensive testing, and will provide this information to all of their teams, but won't pay for any specific team to go to the wind tunnel - thus keeping their promise of making the teams pay their own way while making sure they are competitive.

Starting next year all teams start over with the COT, so whoever has the most money will have the best aero packages - advantage Toyota. Toyota also has a brand new engine, whereas Ford, and to a lessor degree Chevy, are relying on 30 year old engine designs - advantage Toyota.

The one area it appears Toyota is at a disadvantage is the teams and drivers they have signed so far. Micheal Waltrip never was much of a driver, although he is popular with sponsors, and Bill Davies might be the worst owner in NASCAR. Without any teams in the Top 25 in points to start the season, combined with weak owner/drivers to start the season they might struggle the first year, but then get some "help" from NASCAR, and dominate by 2009.

It also wouldn't surprise me to see Ford drop all NASCAR support by 2009 unless something turns around.

[89Hen]

Sadler moves to Evernham Racing (http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060816/SPORTS/60816014)

Elliott Sadler has found a new home with car owner Ray Evernham and the two will begin what they call a “long-term commitment” this Sunday at the GFS Marketplace 400 Michigan International Speedway.

Sadler has driven for Robert Yates for the past three-and-a-half seasons but never found the success he had anticipated, despite winning two races in 2004.

[goasu984Life]

Starting next year all teams start over with the COT, so whoever has the most money will have the best aero packages - advantage Toyota.

That's not exactly true. They are running 16 races in the CoT, not the entire schedule. However, I do agree that if Toyota throws the money that they say they are into the program, they will be competitive in the next few years

Next year will be tough, because there will be just a few number of spots to get into the field (the top 35 are locked in). It's gonna be interesting, especially if some of those cars miss three out of the first four races because they can't qualify.

[LacesOut]

Sadler moves to Evernham Racing (http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060816/SPORTS/60816014)

Elliott Sadler has found a new home with car owner Ray Evernham and the two will begin what they call a “long-term commitment” this Sunday at the GFS Marketplace 400 Michigan International Speedway.

Sadler has driven for Robert Yates for the past three-and-a-half seasons but never found the success he had anticipated, despite winning two races in 2004.

That's prettty hard core what happened to Mayfield. The dude was in the Chase the past two years for Ray E, and this is what he gets, basically fired and replaced??

[goasu984Life]

Mayfield mouthed off about how Ray was never around, and so Ray said get out. It's pretty crappy, but what can you do?

[grizbeer]

i read on NASCAR.com that Ray told Jeremy a few months ago he could look at other options. Obviously the team wasn't running well, but you have to put a lot of that on the team changes.

Sounds like Jeremy might have had a hard time getting along with people - Slugger leaving last year, etc. If i was to speculate I would guess Jeremy pissed off the wrong person, and Ray figured he was getting rid of the rotten fruit.

Too bad, those "is that 93 octane you're wearing" commercials were some of the best NASCAR commercials ever. I would like to see Yates sign Jeremy to the 38 car (and put Gilliand in the 88) keep him out of Toyota.

[LacesOut]

Mayfield mouthed off about how Ray was never around, and so Ray said get out. It's pretty crappy, but what can you do?

Really?? Huh. Didn't know that. I guess loyalty has somewhat dissapeared from all and any sport.

Anybody besides me have an interest in Erin Crocker? I love gingers!

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2006/news/headlines/truck/03/29/ecrocker.martinsville/Erin.Crocker.384.jpg

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/24/240847.jpg

http://eur.i1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/premiere_photo/20050831/10/1406746275.jpg

[goasu984Life]

Mayfield has been known to run his mouth off, so nothing about him surprises me anymore.

[goasu984Life]

Really?? Huh. Didn't know that. I guess loyalty has somewhat dissapeared from all and any sport.

Anybody besides me have an interest in Erin Crocker? I love gingers!

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2006/news/headlines/truck/03/29/ecrocker.martinsville/Erin.Crocker.384.jpg

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/24/240847.jpg

http://eur.i1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/premiere_photo/20050831/10/1406746275.jpg

Rumor has it that she has been knocking boots with Ray, and that was why he was never around. Who knows? She is kinda hot, in that "I bet she's wild in bed" kinda ways.

[LacesOut]

Rumor has it that she has been knocking boots with Ray, and that was why he was never around. Who knows? She is kinda hot, in that "I bet she's wild in bed" kinda ways.

Awwww man, you just killed it for me with that!!

[goasu984Life]

Well, it is just a rumor. Forget that I said anything.

[UNHWildCats]

That's not exactly true. They are running 16 races in the CoT, not the entire schedule. However, I do agree that if Toyota throws the money that they say they are into the program, they will be competitive in the next few years

Next year will be tough, because there will be just a few number of spots to get into the field (the top 35 are locked in). It's gonna be interesting, especially if some of those cars miss three out of the first four races because they can't qualify.


The first five races are based on the previous years owner points, Waltrip needs to finish in the top 35 at all costs this year for his guaranteed starting spot the first 5 races. plus Dale Jarret who will drive for Waltrip can fall back on his past champions provisional.

[goasu984Life]

I know, but what about Brian Vickers? He would be in the top 35 in driver points, but he won't be in the top 35 in owner points, with a new team. And trust me, the way Mikey's season has gone, he's not a shoe in to be in the top 35.

[UNHWildCats]

Michael Waltrip Racing will be a three car team with Waltrip, Jarrett (Champions Provision) and an unnamed third driver.

Bill Davis Racing curently fields one full time team #22 CAT car driven by Dave Blaney currentl;y 30th in owner points.

Team Red Bull which has announced Brian Vickers so far as its lone driver.

I think I read Davis will be 2 cars and Red Bull 3 but dont hold me to that.

Something else to remember, there are 4 past champions who are still able to drive effectively who are either fully retired or partially retired who could be enticed into a car the first 5 weeks. Darrell Waltip in his brothers 3rd car? Terry Labonte, Rusty Wallace and Bill Elliott also are out there.

I can see the teams if they feel the need have these drivers on hand to qualify the cars with past champions provisons as a fall back and then have a regular driver take over at the first pit stop like is common with injured drivers.

There is plenty of ways for these teams to be assured of starting spots. So far there have been two rumors of Yates Racing being bought first by Mark Martin now by Robby Gordon and both time Yates has called the stories false. What about Red Bull buying Yates and transfering owner oints from the 88 and 38 over they currently reside 24th and 21st respectively.

[goasu984Life]

There is plenty of ways for these teams to be assured of starting spots. So far there have been two rumors of Yates Racing being bought first by Mark Martin now by Robby Gordon and both time Yates has called the stories false. What about Red Bull buying Yates and transfering owner oints from the 88 and 38 over they currently reside 24th and 21st respectively.

That's interesting. I don't know if anyone has thought of that. Of course, with Yates doing some engine building for other teams, too, I wonder how that would work. I don't know that Robert Yates is ready to get out of racing all together at this point.

[UNHWildCats]

The rumored sale to Gordon didnt include the engine department, and I didnt see anything on his engine department in the Martin one.

I assume if he sells the race team IT wont include the engine dept

[griz37]

Am I the only one who thinks Robby Gordon is an idiot? Every race I watch I hope he finishes in last. Can't stand the guy!

[goasu984Life]

He definitely has a temper. The good thing about Robby Gordon, and Tony Stewart for that matter, is that they are not the cookie-cutter NASCAR driver. They say what they mean and don't kiss up to anyone. It doesn't matter to them who they piss off.

[UNHWildCats]

with the addition of more teams and more cars with major sponsors, NASCAR may expand the car field from 43 entries.

[grizbeer]

Expanding the field might work on the intermediate tracks, but unless the COT makes for different racing at Daytona and Talladega more cars = more accidents = someone getting killed. Can you imagine adding more cars at Bristol and Martinsville? Talk about Gridlock!

[UNHWildCats]

i had this idea before I may have even posted on here about it in the past.

NASCAR should form 2 divisions splitting drivers up by odd/even finishes the previous season. say two 25 car divisions. Both divisions race together at Daytona (Only top 43-45 qualifiers) then split after that, they race at different tracks each week, one group on Saturdays the other on Sundays. after 26 races the top 12 from each group advance to the Chase while the rest are relegated to the other division for the final stretch.

This allows tracks to maintain the same amount of races they already have, however say New Hampshhire with 2 races will still have 2 but will only get each superstar once. This opens the schedules for new tracks (Canada, Northwest, Mexico) as well as getting larger tracks that attract huge sellouts more dates (Texas)

Each Schedule for the first 26 races will have the same tracks as the other but different weekends. The Chase schedule will be the same as the other as well again just different weekends. The chase would have atleast 1 of each type track (Road, superspeedway, intermediate, short track)

This idea would create more jobs for NASCAR, add more revenue, give more fans a chance to see races (either in areas that sellout or in new areas) and also gives more racing spots and allows more chance to make the chase.

This would allow NASCAR to make sure there big sponsors are always in each race without adding to the danger of larger fields.

[LacesOut]

i had this idea before I may have even posted on here about it in the past.

NASCAR should form 2 divisions splitting drivers up by odd/even finishes the previous season. say two 25 car divisions. Both divisions race together at Daytona (Only top 43-45 qualifiers) then split after that, they race at different tracks each week, one group on Saturdays the other on Sundays. after 26 races the top 12 from each group advance to the Chase while the rest are relegated to the other division for the final stretch.

This allows tracks to maintain the same amount of races they already have, however say New Hampshhire with 2 races will still have 2 but will only get each superstar once. This opens the schedules for new tracks (Canada, Northwest, Mexico) as well as getting larger tracks that attract huge sellouts more dates (Texas)

Each Schedule for the first 26 races will have the same tracks as the other but different weekends. The Chase schedule will be the same as the other as well again just different weekends. The chase would have atleast 1 of each type track (Road, superspeedway, intermediate, short track)

This idea would create more jobs for NASCAR, add more revenue, give more fans a chance to see races (either in areas that sellout or in new areas) and also gives more racing spots and allows more chance to make the chase.

This would allow NASCAR to make sure there big sponsors are always in each race without adding to the danger of larger fields.

What are you going to do with the Busch Series then, anything? Keep it, get rid of it, move it?

[UNHWildCats]

Busch Series wouldnt change. If NASCAR is running a sat afternoon race, Busch can race Fri nite or sat nite. if the race is sat nite they can race busch sat afternoon or friday nite

[blur2005]

:giveadamn:

[grizbeer]

i had this idea before I may have even posted on here about it in the past.

NASCAR should form 2 divisions splitting drivers up by odd/even finishes the previous season. say two 25 car divisions. Both divisions race together at Daytona (Only top 43-45 qualifiers) then split after that, they race at different tracks each week, one group on Saturdays the other on Sundays. after 26 races the top 12 from each group advance to the Chase while the rest are relegated to the other division for the final stretch.

This allows tracks to maintain the same amount of races they already have, however say New Hampshhire with 2 races will still have 2 but will only get each superstar once. This opens the schedules for new tracks (Canada, Northwest, Mexico) as well as getting larger tracks that attract huge sellouts more dates (Texas)

Each Schedule for the first 26 races will have the same tracks as the other but different weekends. The Chase schedule will be the same as the other as well again just different weekends. The chase would have atleast 1 of each type track (Road, superspeedway, intermediate, short track)

This idea would create more jobs for NASCAR, add more revenue, give more fans a chance to see races (either in areas that sellout or in new areas) and also gives more racing spots and allows more chance to make the chase.

This would allow NASCAR to make sure there big sponsors are always in each race without adding to the danger of larger fields.
I had thought of something like this as well, and think it is an excellent idea, and really the way NASCAR should go - help spread the regional popularity of NASCAR without eliminating smaller traditional tracks. You could even let teams decide which division to race in, as long as you only took the top 10 from each division - if 1 division became stronger than the other teams would try to balance it out to have the best chance to make the playoffs.

I fully support your idea, and think it is the future of NASCAR. And if NASCAR doesn't go for the idea, another "league" might just come along, and force 2 divisions:D

[UNHWildCats]

I had thought of something like this as well, and think it is an excellent idea, and really the way NASCAR should go - help spread the regional popularity of NASCAR without eliminating smaller traditional tracks. You could even let teams decide which division to race in, as long as you only took the top 10 from each division - if 1 division became stronger than the other teams would try to balance it out to have the best chance to make the playoffs.

I fully support your idea, and think it is the future of NASCAR. And if NASCAR doesn't go for the idea, another "league" might just come along, and force 2 divisions:D


The reason i said to base it odd/even on the previous seasons final standings is to randomize it guaranteeing the same amount of top drivers in each one.

Plus if they were allowed to pick and choose, big teams like Chldress, HEndrick and Roush would load there entire organization together but randomizing it will atleast leave a chance there split up and spreading them out.