Where do App, GSU and Wofford fit in playoffs-- what do you guys think?

[GSU Eagle]

Here would be my prediction:
Georgia Southern and Appalachian getting byes in 1st round and hosting in Round 2.
Wofford playing at home in 1st round.

Other thoughts.

[asumike83]

I agree. None of them get a seed, GSU/ASU get 1st Round byes. Wofford not playing an all-DI schedule bites them and they have to play on Thanksgiving weekend.

[Apphole]

Hopefully GaSo and Wofford are on the other side of the bracket. The TO is our kryptonite this year.

[GATA_Eagles]

Still a lot of football to be played this weekend.

Right now GSU and App are 6 and 8 respectively. Here's a look at the top five for the week:

#1 NDSU (9-1) @ ISU-r (8-2)
#2 Montana State (9-1) @ Montana (5-5) -- the most interesting matchup this week. Montana State has only won at Wa-Griz 2 times
#3 Sam Houston State (8-2) @ FBS Texas A&M
#4 Old Dominion (9-1) @ #13 James Madison (7-3) -- it's hard to come out of JMU's stadium with a win
#5 Eastern Washington (8-2) @ Portland State (3-7)

All five of the current top five are on the road this week. I can see at least three of them losing (Montana State, Sam Houston, and ODU). That may be enough to propel either GSU or App into one of the lower seeds.

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

You guys obviously know the SoCon better than me so why do you think Ga Southern and App State deserve a 1st round bye over Wofford? They played both App State and Ga Southern on the road and won 1 of those games.

Samford and Citadel losses are basically a wash, right?

Are you basing your opinion solely on the respective schools' likely bid?

[Apphole]

I almost prefer to have less home games. Some said this, not sure if it was here or the MMB, but to get the players out of those multi-million dollar locker rooms. So they don't walk by all those trophies when they walk into the coaches office.

[GSU Eagle]

I think for right or wrong this FCS win total is important. App and GSU will have 8 FCS wins, Wofford (unless they somehow beat South Carolina) will have 7.

[asumike83]

You guys obviously know the SoCon better than me so why do you think Ga Southern and App State deserve a 1st round bye over Wofford? They played both App State and Ga Southern on the road and won 1 of those games.

Samford and Citadel losses are basically a wash, right?

Are you basing your opinion solely on the respective schools' likely bid?

ASU/GSU would both outbid them if it came to that but I think Wofford winds up playing on Thanksgiving weekend because they scheduled a DII and will only have 7 DI wins. In the eyes of the committee, I think having 8 DI wins will make a difference.

[mountaineer in Cane Land]

ya, part of it is the bid, whether you agree or disagree with the process, Apps not afraid to spend money to secure a home game. As far as Wofford, they only have 7 FCS wins, and they are going to end up behind App and GS in the polls, plus, their playoffs attendence is poor, so I doubt they would get into a bidding war for a home playoff spot.

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

ASU/GSU would both outbid them if it came to that but I think Wofford winds up playing on Thanksgiving weekend because they scheduled a DII and will only have 7 DI wins. In the eyes of the committee, I think having 8 DI wins will make a difference.

I hope you are right.

[GSUhooligan]

9-2 gets GSU a #1/2 seed
App will get a first round bye and Wofford plays against the big south champ on TG weekend.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

9-2 gets GSU a #1/2 seed
App will get a first round bye and Wofford plays against the big south champ on TG weekend.

No complaints forom me if they beat Georgia. What an ugly way to end the regular season...

[Pitz]

Is Wofford's claim to a share of the SoCon title enough to overcome their 7 D-I wins stacked up against a likely number of 8 D-I win teams from power conferences? Oh Selection Sunday, you will be fun.

[biggie]

Does depend a lot on games this weekend with team ahead of GSU and App. Some blowouts to FBS teams and some upsets put either GSU (with good showing vs UGA) or App as a possible 5 seed. All stays the same for rankings then both are unseeded and playing at home with 1st rd bye.

Woff probably does play first rd, not sure how much they usually bid to know if they'll be at home.

[asumike83]

UGA has their sights on the BCS and they are preparing to face GT's offense. They'll be ready for the triple option, that one won't be close. Just stay healthy for the playoffs.

[SpiritCymbal]

UGA has their sights on the BCS and they are preparing to face GT's offense. They'll be ready for the triple option, that one won't be close. Just stay healthy for the playoffs.

Yep. Drop back and save the equipment!

[frozennorth]

app and gsu will have a week off then host.

wofford will be at home playing madden

[mountaineer in Cane Land]

In this game GS is a victim of bad timing, Georgia is playing for a BCS bowl, and they have GT, next week, just a bigger, faster version of GS. Georgia is going to take this game very seriously, and to make things worse, Im sure the coaching staff has shown the video of the GS/Alabama game, just to remind his kids not to overlook GS. Having said this, if GS can establish the run like they did last year against Bama, then they can eat up the clock, and keep the game relatively close. I watched the game against Bama last year, and after about 10 minutes of the game, got the feeling Bama had no clue how to stop GS, maybe the same thing will happen tomarrow.

[theasushow]

UGA will destroy GSU, just like they would destroy any other team in FCS.

[SpiritCymbal]

UGA will destroy GSU, just like they would destroy any other team in FCS.

Agreed.

[ASU_Fanatic]

I almost prefer to have less home games. Some said this, not sure if it was here or the MMB, but to get the players out of those multi-million dollar locker rooms. So they don't walk by all those trophies when they walk into the coaches office.

I agree, our biggest wins have came on the road this year (Samford, Georgia Southern). But I still want more games to go to lol

[WrenFGun]

Wofford will need one of Villanova, JMU or Richmond (or SD State) to lose next week to get in, IMO.

[LehighU11]

I think Wofford is done. Never should have scheduled one of the worst D2 programs when you have a guaranteed loss to an SEC school on your slate. SoCon is too tough to make the playoffs from.

[Rekdiver]

Too many other bubbl e teams Wufford is out.

[Drblankstare]

I'll agree with most and say that App and G.So get a week off and Woff hosts a first rounder. The real question, is which side of the bracket each falls in. God I can't wait till Sunday.

[seantaylor]

In this game GS is a victim of bad timing, Georgia is playing for a BCS bowl, and they have GT, next week, just a bigger, faster version of GS. Georgia is going to take this game very seriously, and to make things worse, Im sure the coaching staff has shown the video of the GS/Alabama game, just to remind his kids not to overlook GS. Having said this, if GS can establish the run like they did last year against Bama, then they can eat up the clock, and keep the game relatively close. I watched the game against Bama last year, and after about 10 minutes of the game, got the feeling Bama had no clue how to stop GS, maybe the same thing will happen tomarrow.

Georgia Tech is not faster. Not even close.

[Mr. Pink]

Georgia Tech is not faster. Not even close.

Agreed, if anything they actually might be a tad slower because of the size. They are significantly bigger though, I can't disagree with that.

[mcveyrl]

I don't think Wofford makes it without help. A main consideration is whether the team played an all DI schedule. They didn't and only have 7 wins. That puts them in real jeopardy.

[appmountaineer]

I think its a close call with wofford. I wouldn't be surprised to see them playing on thanksgiving weekend though.

[mcveyrl]

The way they're playing now, they may not need any help....

[SOCON DOMINATES]

Agree, the rumors of the Terriers not getting in should be answered by the 7-7 tie at the half at Williams-Brice. Really feel the Terriers would be worthy of bye, but would be on the road. Hopefully they will get a 1st round homer and I can get my son there to ride some cardboard on the hill!

[drpnut]

For all the haters: Woffy is tied with South CArolina at half. Even if we lose I do not hin the committee can overlook our strong performance today. We get in the playoffs, not haters get off our jocks.

[drpnut]

Agree, the rumors of the Terriers not getting in should be answered by the 7-7 tie at the half at Williams-Brice. Really feel the Terriers would be worthy of bye, but would be on the road. Hopefully they will get a 1st round homer and I can get my son there to ride some cardboard on the hill!

I agree. If we somehow win, ithink we have to get a seed.

[drpnut]

Our defense is playing lights out and the offense, especially "frankenstien" are goint to be scary in the playoffs.

[theasushow]

Be careful...I am pulling strongly for Wofford but many halftime ties turn out to be 49-7.

[SOCON DOMINATES]

I agree. If we somehow win, ithink we have to get a seed.

Don't know if any of us will get a seed, but it were to happen I hope the Mountaineers get the nod. Being from the Boone area I do not want #7's career for the Terriers to end today?

[mcveyrl]

To clarify, I'm not hating and wouldn't have any problem with Wofford getting in with a loss, but if you look at the criteria, they will get a minus for not playing an all DI schedule. Another criteria is W-L record and they will be up against several 8 win teams so they'll have to show that their 7 wins are better than the other teams' 8 wins.

Obviously a win today removes any questions. I don't think the committee considers "good" losses.

[SOCON DOMINATES]

To clarify, I'm not hating and wouldn't have any problem with Wofford getting in with a loss, but if you look at the criteria, they will get a minus for not playing an all DI schedule. Another criteria is W-L record and they will be up against several 8 win teams so they'll have to show that their 7 wins are better than the other teams' 8 wins.

Obviously a win today removes any questions. I don't think the committee considers "good" losses.

How many FCS schools that get in the playoffs tomorrow would be tied at the half at USC? Not many if any, you put the 20 best teams in the playoffs after the auto qualifiers Wofford is one of the 20 best in the country. This is not rocket science!

[frozennorth]

For all the haters: Woffy is tied with South CArolina at half. Even if we lose I do not hin the committee can overlook our strong performance today. We get in the playoffs, not haters get off our jocks.
the only way you get in is if you win.

[mcveyrl]

How many FCS schools that get in the playoffs tomorrow would be tied at the half at USC? Not many if any, you put the 20 best teams in the playoffs after the auto qualifiers Wofford is one of the 20 best in the country. This is not rocket science!

I can promise you the committee does not care who you are tied with at the half. The criteria is spelled out. JMU beat ACC champ Va Tech two years ago, but they didn't have the seven wins other teams had. If you look at the criteria and who Wofford might be compared with, it's a tough call.

[theasushow]

How many FCS schools that get in the playoffs tomorrow would be tied at the half at USC? Not many if any, you put the 20 best teams in the playoffs after the auto qualifiers Wofford is one of the 20 best in the country. This is not rocket science!

Well.....Georgia Southern is down only 10-7 to a more highly ranked UGA team approaching halftime.

[ITmonarch10]

Well.....Georgia Southern is down only 10-7 to a more highly ranked UGA team approaching halftime. Honestly, It making think that Gatech might beat them. I don't think Georgia is going to beat bama playing like this.

[dungeonjoe]

I hope Wofford gets in just to silence the experts.


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[theasushow]

I hope Wofford gets in just to silence the experts.


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i think it would be a travesty if a co-conference champion didnt get in.

[dungeonjoe]

Honestly, It making think that Gatech might beat them. I don't think Georgia is going to beat bama playing like this.

It's funny that the problem is UGA not playing well and GSu well.


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[mcveyrl]

i think it would be a travesty if a co-conference champion didnt get in.

It's possible that the CAA could have six co-champions...
(Btw, if that happens I don't expect JMU to get in)

[CID1990]

Touchdown Citadel!!

[stevdock]

ASU and GSU have 8 wins. Wofford has 7, what's the difference between Wofford and SHSU then??

[frozennorth]

shsu played for a title last year, basically. Otherwise shsu would likely be out too.

[ITmonarch10]

ASU and GSU have 8 wins. Wofford has 7, what's the difference between Wofford and SHSU then??
You can throw in Towson and Indiana State as well. Its just a rep and possibly a poll position battle. If Sam Houston didn't have the playoff run last year we wouldn't even be considering them.

[tractorapp]

I think Wofford had an all Division 1 schedule set and an ooc backed out at the last minute. Am I right, and who was that Wofford fans? I'm sure Wofford would have liked to get a D1 to replace them, but I guess none could be found. If I'm Wofford, I would consider long term home/home deals with PC and maybe Gardner Webb and be done with this problem. That would pretty much guarantee a an all D1 schedule every year with one money game. I think Charlie Cobb, ASU AD and chairman of the selection committee will work very hard to make sure Wofford makes the tournament.

[theasushow]

I think Wofford had an all Division 1 schedule set and an ooc backed out at the last minute. Am I right, and who was that Wofford fans? I'm sure Wofford would have liked to get a D1 to replace them, but I guess none could be found. If I'm Wofford, I would consider long term home/home deals with PC and maybe Gardner Webb and be done with this problem. That would pretty much guarantee a an all D1 schedule every year with one money game. I think Charlie Cobb, ASU AD and chairman of the selection committee will work very hard to make sure Wofford makes the tournament.

Indeed, so if Wofford makes the tourney they can thank our AD. haha

[Reign of Terrier]

You guys are being ahistorical. Wofford made the playoffs like 3to times with less of a resume than they do now. No way the committee lets the CAA get 4 in before the socon gets 3l in

[Reign of Terrier]

2007 8-3 (7 d1 wins)
2011 8-3 (7 d1 wins)

The field is larger. Wofford is in.

[Reign of Terrier]

In short, i guarantee that there will not be 4 teams from a conference before the socon gets 3 in

[LehighU11]

I agree. Thanks to Indiana St losing, I think each of the four power conferences will get exactly 3 each. 2 from the Southland and Patriot League, with the NEC, MEAC, OVC, and Big South getting autobids only fill up the 20 slots well.

[Reign of Terrier]

I agree. Thanks to Indiana St losing, I think each of the four power conferences will get exactly 3 each. 2 from the Southland and Patriot League, with the NEC, MEAC, OVC, and Big South getting autobids only fill up the 20 slots well.

I personally think 9-2 stony brook gets in over 10-1 lehigh but otherwise i agree

[rokamortis]

I personally think 9-2 stony brook gets in over 10-1 lehigh but otherwise i agree

I think EKU may have a better case than Stony Brook.

[ITmonarch10]

I personally think 9-2 stony brook gets in over 10-1 lehigh but otherwise i agree

I agree and EWU is losing to Portland right now. GSU and App are back in the running for a seed if they fall.

[theasushow]

I agree and EWU is losing to Portland right now. GSU and App are back in the running for a seed if they fall.

If EWU loses who do you give the seed to? Both teams are 8-3, GSU would make more sense since they won the auto-bid, but yet they lost the head to head.

[Reign of Terrier]

I just don't buy that a conference co-champ from a big 4 conference wouldn't make it with a resume such as wofford's. Sure, we had a d2 game, but that has never been a disqualifier before, especially in an expanded field

[ITmonarch10]

You guys are being ahistorical. Wofford made the playoffs like 3to times with less of a resume than they do now. No way the committee lets the CAA get 4 in before the socon gets 3l in

Stop using the CAA as measuring stick when our conference is a little down. We are probably only going to get 3 teams in this year. The people who would keep you out the playoffs are in the MVFC(#1 conference this year), Big Sky (expanded to 13 teams, Cal has a FBS win even with a loss to NAU), OVC (Committee loves EKY, UT-Martin for a FBS win), Stony Brook (Failing to win the big south), Sam Houston (Reputation from last year), and Lehigh (failing to win the patriot league).

[dungeonjoe]

Stop using the CAA as measuring stick when our conference is a little down. We are probably only going to get 3 teams in this year. The people who would keep you out the playoffs are in the MVFC(#1 conference this year), Big Sky (expanded to 13 teams, Cal has a FBS win even with a loss to NAU), OVC (Committee loves EKY, UT-Martin for a FBS win), Stony Brook (Failing to win the big south), Sam Houston (Reputation from last year), and Lehigh (failing to win the patriot league).

"A little down"? Everybody is in first place in the CAA, how can that be?


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[mcveyrl]

I just don't buy that a conference co-champ from a big 4 conference wouldn't make it with a resume such as wofford's. Sure, we had a d2 game, but that has never been a disqualifier before, especially in an expanded field

Honest question: can you tell me a major difference between Wofford's resume and the CAA co-champs thus far (Towson, UR, UNH, Villanova)? I know another major factor is SoS - which is where JMU is lacking - but I don't know how all those SoS's compare.

[EKUSteve]

Honest question: can you tell me a major difference between Wofford's resume and the CAA co-champs thus far (Towson, UR, UNH, Villanova)? I know another major factor is SoS - which is where JMU is lacking - but I don't know how all those SoS's compare.

I think the whole thing will come down to computers for those of us without an automatic bid and 8 wins...

[Reign of Terrier]

Honest question: can you tell me a major difference between Wofford's resume and the CAA co-champs thus far (Towson, UR, UNH, Villanova)? I know another major factor is SoS - which is where JMU is lacking - but I don't know how all those SoS's compare.
For political purposes i highly doubt the CAA gets more thanthree or four in, having a five way tie for first is a circle jerk and a credence to parity but not necessarily strength

[dungeonjoe]

I hope Wofford gets in just to silence the experts.


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For the record, I think Wofford shouldn't play D2 games. But, folks should not dismiss SoCon strength either.


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[King]

the only way you get in is if you win.

Pure genius