The Lehigh at Holy Cross Game Thread

[Lehigh Football Nation]

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2012/11/game-preview-lehigh-at-holy-cross.html

Will there be a Ryan Spadola at this game?

[Lehigh'98]

Yep. Hopefully he makes a big splash

[RichH2]

I'm guessing yes. My real hope is that Mike shows up for the whole game. With Ruley and Vuono back, we s/b able to run on Cross.

[ngineer]

Too bad Haggins still out at TE. He's had a vexed senior year and can be such an impact player when in the lineup. With the forecast wind conditions, the run game will be vitally important.

[ngineer]

You can watch the game on Holy Cross's website through the 'all-access' portal for only $8.95. I registered last night. Was hoping to make the trip, but too much work in the aftermath of 'Sandy' to justify taking a full day away from the homestead. "The Second in Command" will be fine with my being 'incommunicado' for 3 1/2 hours on Saturday afternoon, as opposed to being AWOL from 6:30 a.m. until about 8 p.m....(;-)

[crusader11]

I'll be there for HC's last home game of the year. Think it will very much be a back and forth game, but Lehigh's defense is too much for an emerging HC offense.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Game Breakdown and Fearless Prediction:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2012/11/game-breakdown-lehigh-at-holy-cross.html

[ngineer]

You got me psyched on this, now. Now, I'm wishing I were hitting the road tomorrow a.m....but discretion is the better part of valor. So cheering on I will be in front of my monitor with my Yuengling Lager. (;-)

[van]

You got me psyched on this, now. Now, I'm wishing I were hitting the road tomorrow a.m....but discretion is the better part of valor. So cheering on I will be in front of my monitor with my Yuengling Lager. (;-)

+1

[RichH2]

Putting up lot of family from Rockaway but I will pick up some peppermint schnapps. Lord, Chuck you like sweet drinks but as long as we win I'll risk diabetes. Have reserved the desktop for game. Everyone knows not to worry when they hear me cussin at the screen. My nieces have been warned not to sit in my lap during football. Just because I once bounced my daughter at 7 onto the floor. Women they just never forget stuff.

[Neighbor2]

Lehigh/Holy Cross now listed for telecast on WFMZ-TV69 at 12:30pm. That channel reaches millions (assuming they have electric power).

[Southsider]

Lehigh/Holy Cross now listed for telecast on WFMZ-TV69 at 12:30pm. That channel reaches millions (assuming they have electric power).

Great. Got power back at 6 pm Fri, but cable still out. Using my 4G unit for internet connection. Hopefully signal strong enough to see game online. Also, I too saw the game listed in the TV line-up. I really doubt if that is accurate as the LU site says no TV coverage. Hope they are wrong!

[ngineer]

Lehigh/Holy Cross now listed for telecast on WFMZ-TV69 at 12:30pm. That channel reaches millions (assuming they have electric power).

That is an error! I called WFMZ and no one at the station could confirm the game. Indeed one person followed up and said a 'paid programming' infomercial was scheduled and the website does NOT have the game listed. This a a Morning Call mistake (and a lot were made in today's edition. The editing at the paper is getting downright horrible.). Only way to see the game is to go to wwwGoHolyCross.com and sign up for the streaming. Costs only $8.95.

[Neighbor2]

We'll just need to wait until 12:30pm to find out. It's on my Direct TV channel listing. Someone had to submit the info to Direct TV.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Just about an hour until kickoff! Hopefully Lehigh comes out swinging! Don't let HC believe they have a chance!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Disappointed the game won't be streamed! Updates will be appreciated!

[Sader87]

Watching on Sader-Vision, was going to go....late night, don't have the recuperative powers I once had...will update here.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Disappointed the game won't be streamed! Updates will be appreciated!

It will be streamed on Holy Cross Stretch Internet. I know this since I'm watching it right now. (With Lehigh's audio, of course!)

[Sader87]

You're not listening to "Mr E & Gordie???"....sacrilege

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I'm going to use the radio broadcast to keep updated.

[LehighU11]

Elder sacked on 1st down...2nd and 19. Good start for Lehigh

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Nice start by the defense..lets catch a punt!!

big punt return to the HC 3!!

[Sader87]

6-0 Engineers very quickly...Saders 3 and out, long punt return, Colvin TD from 2 yards out missed XP

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

First missed XP of the year i believe....

[Sader87]

7-6 Saders

[Lehigh Lover]

Can't miss extra points. They always loom large.

[Pard4Life]

First missed XP of the year i believe....

Don't even mention missed XPs vs. Holy Cross to Lafayette fans...

[Sader87]

Lockbaum is a very good analyst btw...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

HC seems to be relying on their big TE....

Another nice special teams play! Cmon offense!

[Lehigh Lover]

Lehigh squandering great field position.

[Lehigh Lover]

End of 1st quarter. 7-6 Cross.

[Sader87]

End of 1: HC 7-6

[van]

D better toughen up soon or it's gonna be a long day!

[van]

D better toughen up soon or it's gonna be a long day!

guess not

[Sader87]

Fess 8 yd TD reception 14-6 Saders

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Need to respond here...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

TD Colvin!! Time for the defense to make a statement!!

[LehighU11]

COLVIN 33 yards for the TD!

[Lehigh Lover]

Colvin great run 33 yard TD, extra point made this time. 14-13 Cross.

[Lehigh'98]

Keep updates coming guys, no power appreciate it.

[LehighU11]

Colvin to Spadola. Mike is settling in very nicely the past two drives.

[LehighU11]

Colvin to Barket on a screen pass. Holding brings it back. 2nd and 10 from Lehigh 35 7min remaining in half. Colvin to Spadola for 2 yds.

[LehighU11]

Colvin to Spadola over midfield. 1st down! 6:07 remaining

[LehighU11]

Colvin to Coyle. on 1st and 10 from HC 44.

[LehighU11]

3rd down, 6 to go. Under 5 min remaining. Colvin to Spadola incomplete...flags: PI. First down Lehigh.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Putting together a nice drive. Need points!!

The Oline seems to be taking control...

[van]

You're not listening to "Mr E & Gordie???"....sacrilege

I'll say one thing for Mr E, he knows that 8-0 means undefeated!

[LehighU11]

3rd and goal from 5. Barket stopped at the 2. Timeout.

[van]

I'll say one thing for Mr E, he knows that 8-0 means undefeated!

Hope he remembers that late in the 4th quarter!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Not a TD but a good way to end the half!

16-14 Lehigh, Hawks to receive second half KO...

[LehighU11]

Not a TD but a good way to end the half!

16-14 Lehigh, Hawks to receive second half KO...

Disappointing end to an otherwise outstanding drive, but we'll take a lead, no matter how ugly it is.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Disappointing end to an otherwise outstanding drive, but we'll take a lead, no matter how ugly it is.

Lehigh seems to have the running game going. They need to eliminate the big HC TE and they should be ok.

[LehighU11]

Lehigh seems to have the running game going. They need to eliminate the big HC TE and they should be ok.

Colvin also finding Spadola several times on that last drive was encouraging. New threats in SFS and Kurfis probably taking away double coverage from Ryan.

[LehighU11]

Pards getting massacred up in Hamilton...21-0 just 16 minutes in. Glad we host Gate at Goodman this year.

[Sader87]

Schneider (#87 TE) has been so under-used the last couple of years imo...we're going to need a turnover or two to win this but it's a winnable game.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I think that early one-play drive might have worked against LU to some degree. The defense got worn down and the offense never really got going. There are signs that the LU offense is shaking off the rust, though. IMO. They get the ball first in the second half, which could be huge.

[Southsider]

Lehigh seems to have the running game going. They need to eliminate the big HC TE and they should be ok.

Hey Owl, I usually think your commentary is pretty accurate. But....LU's running game is non existent. Has been all year. O-Line really struggles to get anyone other than Colvin more than 3 yards a clip. I believe this is the reason the O is so inconsistent. They need to prove me wrong with a balanced 2nd half. Watching Colgate/Lafayette. Red Raiders are very scary!!!

[van]

Really need solid play for D in second half, Cross has some weapons!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Hey Owl, I usually think your commentary is pretty accurate. But....LU's running game is non existent. Has been all year. O-Line really struggles to get anyone other than Colvin more than 3 yards a clip. I believe this is the reason the O is so inconsistent. They need to prove me wrong with a balanced 2nd half. Watching Colgate/Lafayette. Red Raiders are very scary!!!

Sherman broke off a nice run to set up a score. I think Barket has lost a step since his injury which has hurt.

[Sader87]

HC is really not that bad a team....the front 7 defensively is weak but outside of that, they are right there with anyone in the PL.

[van]

Wagner up on Albany 20-0, if this hold it is gonna throw a big monkey wrench into the playoff selection!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Hopefully Colvin can avoid mistakes. Lehigh can't afford to give HC any breaks.

[Southsider]

Sherman broke off a nice run to set up a score. I think Barket has lost a step since his injury which has hurt.

Well, then Barket shoul be riding the pine. With Sherman, and the younger kid Sodeke (I think) LU would stand a much better chance of getting their running game going. It would really help to open up the passing game.

[Hawk98]

Strike from Colvin to Spadola! 23-14

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Very nice!! Now the defense needs to finish off the Crusaders!

[Lehigh Lover]

Spadola long TD!!!! 23-14 Lehigh for some breathing room.

[van]

Spadola long TD!!!! 23-14 Lehigh for some breathing room.

Ryan Spadola, all PL, all american!

[Sader87]

All year long....3rd and 4th down breakdowns

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Ryan Spadola, all PL, all american!

If he has a strong finish he has a shot. I don't think there's a WR that has put together a great season around the country.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

HC driving...Cmon defense!!

[Hawk98]

The D has to tackle, can't keep bouncing off guys.

[Southsider]

Very nice!! Now the defense needs to finish off the Crusaders!

What defense????????????????????????????//

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

TD HC, terrible defense....

This team just doesn't have "it"....

[Hawk98]

Gave the TD right back. Defense is going to get run over by 'Gate next week if they don't start tackling.

[Lehigh Lover]

17 yd TD Holy Cross, 23-21 Lehigh.

[Sader87]

Holy Cross has a good offense....no D

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Gave the TD right back. Defense is going to get run over by 'Gate next week if they don't start tackling.

They need worry about today. That type of horrendous D is what allows you to lose a game like this.

[Lehigh Lover]

Wow Lehigh fumbles the ensuing kickoff, recovered by Holy Cross.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Holy Cross has a good offense....no D

I disagree....They've struggled minus the Colgate and Fordham games, 17, 21, 10, 3, 6 and 13 points in all others.

[LehighU11]

Wow Lehigh fumbles the ensuing kickoff, recovered by Holy Cross.

We should just take poor field position from now on and not attempt any returns. This special teams play is pathetic.

[Southsider]

This team has real problems. Can't be denied. Getting it done with smoke and mirrors for 8 weeks. ANyone who can't see it is fooling themselves.

[Lehigh Lover]

Another Holy Cross touchdown. 28-23 this is ridiculous.

[Hawk98]

Wow, terrible.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

This team has real problems. Can't be denied. Getting it done with smoke and mirrors for 8 weeks. ANyone who can't see it is fooling themselves.

Just a complete lack of consistency. When one bad thing happens, three bad things end up happening and they have to fight their way back.

[Sader87]

Again....HC is not bad....their D is bad

[Franks Tanks]

Wow this is surpising. Holy Cross only scored one offensive TD against our crappy D.

[Doc QB]

This team has real problems. Can't be denied. Getting it done with smoke and mirrors for 8 weeks. ANyone who can't see it is fooling themselves.
Couldn't agree more. Our soft schedule has allowed us to aqueeze by for eight weeks. We will get POUNDED in first round of playoffs making mistakes and playing inconsistently like this. We should still win out, but playoffs could get very ugly and the message boards will follow suit...

[Hawk98]

This team has real problems. Can't be denied. Getting it done with smoke and mirrors for 8 weeks. ANyone who can't see it is fooling themselves.

It's not smoke and mirrors, but they do have a lot of issues on D. But they have a lot of playmakers that have so far overcome the mistakes.

[Doc QB]

It's not smoke and mirrors, but they do have a lot of issues on D. But they have a lot of playmakers that have so far overcome the mistakes.

It works against inferior competition, but CAA, SoCon, MVFC playoff caliber teams will eat us alive. We are not last years team.

[van]

Looks like Peery of 2010 again.

[Hawk98]

Don't understand kicking the FG there. The kicker hasn't hit from 30+ all year.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

It works against inferior competition, but CAA, SoCon, MVFC playoff caliber teams will eat us alive. We are not last years team.

How can they look so good and then lose it? Leadership?

[Southsider]

Couldn't agree more. Our soft schedule has allowed us to aqueeze by for eight weeks. We will get POUNDED in first round of playoffs making mistakes and playing inconsistently like this. We should still win out, but playoffs could get very ugly and the message boards will follow suit...

DOc, with all due respect, it ain't gonna happen. NO RUNNING GAME, and a D that is very suspect.

[Doc QB]

DOc, with all due respect, it ain't gonna happen. NO RUNNING GAME, and a D that is very suspect.
I'm trying to stay positive...

[Lehigh Lover]

This defense can't stop anybody today.

[Sader87]

this was the HC team many expected to see more of this year

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

this was the HC team many expected to see more of this year

You can keep talking them up but they're 1-7 and have lost to every decent team they've faced....

[Lehigh Lover]

TD Cross, 35-23. Don't know what to say right now.

[van]

3rd quarter almost over, maybe break time is over?

[Sader87]

They aren't that bad though....coulda, woulda shoulda beat Brown, Dartmouth and Fordham

[Doc QB]

You can keep talking them up but they're 1-7 and have lost to every decent team they've faced....

And they are taking it to us right now.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

TD Cross, 35-23. Don't know what to say right now.


The Lafayette game will likely be all about bragging rights....

[LUHawker]

Crappy Stretchinternet went down after Suggs's fumble. What the hell happened?

[Lehigh'98]

This is turning out to be classic look ahead

[Southsider]

This is turning out to be classic look ahead

Couldn't disagree more. What have they done YTD that would make you think that any game wouldn't be a struggle?

[LehighU11]

We need another pep-talk by O'Brien, like he did against Georgetown in the 3rd Q, to spark this defense. Especially since the coaches are incompetent.

[LehighU11]

Coen backing off to end the 1st half with a FG may finally cost this team. Playcalling all season has never shown a killer instinct. We let teams stay right in the game by running down the clock or settling for punts and FGs to end the first half. Every darn week. And then fail to show up for 10-15 minutes. Beyond frustrating.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Coen backing off to end the 1st half with a FG may finally cost this team. Playcalling all season has never shown a killer instinct. We let teams stay right in the game by running down the clock or settling for punts and FGs to end the first half. Every darn week. And then fail to show up for 10-15 minutes. Beyond frustrating.

It's on the defense. When you go up 23-14 you need to put the foot down. I actually think taking points before half was the right call given the fact you got the second half KO.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh scores! How I don't know....

[RichH2]

Had to take family to their home just got back. Damn, we're getting our *** handed to us. Dont have the heart to read thread.

[LehighU11]

WOW. That fumble may just have saved the season.

[Southsider]

NO RUNNING GAME!!! Cant get a stinking yard when you need one!

[LehighU11]

3 and out. Unbelievable. Same lousy plays each week. Predictable.

[Jacked_Rabbit]

C'mon Hawks!!! Let's not ***** the bed today...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

C'mon Hawks!!! Let's not ***** the bed today...

If they lose they're done in terms of an at large imo. That would be a good thing for the power conferences....

[LehighU11]

C'mon Hawks!!! Let's not ***** the bed today...

Don't worry. We lose this one and you won't have to worry about us taking away an at-large.

[LehighU11]

HC counting on a muffed punt as their best offense. Smart move.

[PAllen]

HC counting on a muffed punt as their best offense. Smart move.

Oh, their offense has been doing just fine. :(

[LehighU11]

Spadola drops it. Characteristic of the day.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Well the offense will get their chance assuming they can field a punt....

86 yards to save the season....Will Colvin force it?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh driving....

[LehighU11]

SFS for the first down down to the HC 38

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

TD!! Spadola!! Cmon defense!! Need a 2 pt conversion!!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

2 pt conversion no good....HC just needs a FG to win..... 2 minutes left....

[Lehigh Lover]

33 yd TD Spadola!!! 2 point conversion missed. 36-35 two minutes left. Defense has to make a stop.

[Sader87]

Story of the year.....

[LehighU11]

Spadola couldn't have returned at a better time.

[LehighU11]

Story of the year.....

For both teams.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Still a lot of time left....The odds of pulling this off are still, eh...ok....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

HC moving the ball easily....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

4th down! One play defense!!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

First down HC at the LU 36....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Good grief....this is intense!!

[Sader87]

Gilmore poor use of time here

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

No good!! Lehigh escapes again!! This team has tremendous heart!! Good lord i need a drink!!

[Lehigh Lover]

43 yarder missed. Get out the goblet!!!! 9-0!!!!! Lehigh wins 36-35!!!!!

[Sader87]

HC blew that....good game....story of the year, just can't make the big plays....congrats Lehigh

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

HC blew that....good game....story of the year, just can't make the big plays....congrats Lehigh

It was like watching a bball game, it was all about the spurtability....

[LehighU11]

Unbelievable. We are officially the ugliest 9-0 team ever. No doubt about it. But Al Davis would be proud. Playoffs should be a definite after today. Hopefully.

[LehighU11]

HC blew that....good game....story of the year, just can't make the big plays....congrats Lehigh

As frustrating as these close wins have been, I can't believe what it must feel like for HC. Hope you can pull off one against Wagner and Gtown.

[hawkineer]

Unbelievable. We are officially the ugliest 9-0 team ever. No doubt about it. But Al Davis would be proud. Playoffs should be a definite after today. Hopefully.

Let's hope that we haven't used up our nine lives.

[Lehigh'98]

Wow

[Southsider]

Very lucky today. I'll say it again. With a consistent running game they would be able to control games, despite the poor play of the Defense. Luckily, the Colgate D may be worse than ours!!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Unbelievable. We are officially the ugliest 9-0 team ever. No doubt about it. But Al Davis would be proud. Playoffs should be a definite after today. Hopefully.

I was extremely impressed with Colvin that final drive. Most everyone questioned his ability to put together a drive passing the ball when it was needed. He answered the bell! The loss of Dave K has hurt the defense. I'm not sure if the co-DC's will be a good idea after this year.

[van]

That's undefeated Lehigh!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Very lucky today. I'll say it again. With a consistent running game they would be able to control games, despite the poor play of the Defense. Luckily, the Colgate D may be worse than ours!!

Next weeks game will be an epic shootout. Lehigh has the horses on offense to put up 50 next week. The defense is now a concern which it wasn't 5 hours ago...

[Franks Tanks]

Next weeks game will be an epic shootout. Lehigh has the horses on offense to put up 50 next week. The defense is now a concern which it wasn't 5 hours ago...

Colgate all the way next week.

[Sader87]

This league has the most parity in the country....unquestioned.

[hawkineer]

Colgate all the way next week.

LU and Colgate in the PL championship game, while Laughing-at-it is playing another meaningless game in November. Any memory what it's like to be relevant?

[Franks Tanks]

LU and Colgate in the PL championship game, while Laughing-at-it is playing another meaningless game in November. Any memory what it's like to be relevant?

Colgate is much better than Lehigh, despite their very suspect D. You won't get lucky again next week.

[citdog]

That whole league is just terrible. Lehigh is not a top 10 team and should drop like a stone this week.

[Sader87]

That whole league is just terrible. Lehigh is not a top 10 team and should drop like a stone this week.

So said Jefferson Davis in 1861....we all know how that turned out.

[Lehigh'98]

That whole league is just terrible. Lehigh is not a top 10 team and should drop like a stone this week.

Go away

[RichH2]

I see we again took the 3rd off. We were very lucky. Was D as bad as stats show?. If so next week could be a 77-70 game.

[LEHIGH07]

SPADOLA - straight beast mode!! I'd say he's healthy again - WATCH OUT!

A win is a win, especially on the road! LEHIGH!

[Nova09]

Go away

this thread has about 12 pages of PL fans bashing lehigh, who leads the league. why isn't citdog allowed to chime in?

[Go...gate]

Next weeks game will be an epic shootout. Lehigh has the horses on offense to put up 50 next week. The defense is now a concern which it wasn't 5 hours ago...

Don't count your chickens yet. We may be able to put up 50 on you guys.....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I see we again took the 3rd off. We were very lucky. Was D as bad as stats show?. If so next week could be a 77-70 game.

The radio feed died. The problem with the defense seems to be quick changes. Whenever there's a turnover or quick TD they come out lethargic.

[Go...gate]

this thread has about 12 pages of PL fans bashing lehigh, who leads the league. why isn't citdog allowed to chime in?

Agreed. Lighten up, everybody.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Don't count your chickens yet. We may be able to put up 50 on you guys.....

Likely be a lot like the '05. Hopefully with the same result! Lehigh's defense was not concern before today....

[Lehigh'98]

this thread has about 12 pages of PL fans bashing lehigh, who leads the league. why isn't citdog allowed to chime in?

He can but no need to call the whole league terrible. El CID ain't exactly worldbeaters, even with Higgy at the helm.

[Sader87]

Eye test, Colgate's a little better but the game's at Goodman...should be a good one.

Just bantering with the gentleman from South Carolina...he's more than welcome to post here.

[citdog]

Go away

i believe western carolina would win the pl. You have been exposed by HOLY CROSS.... and your entire league is just slightly better than the pioneer

[Sader87]

I'll have the good gentleman know, that HC is the best 1-8 team in the country. We've also been playing meaningful football at HC far longer than that school for Southern gents who couldn't get into West Point.

[hawkineer]

i believe western carolina would win the pl. You have been exposed by HOLY CROSS.... and your entire league is just slightly better than the pioneer
A win is a win. If you want to a really cool a$$kicking, watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3po17QbHLRQ

[Go...gate]

I'll have the good gentleman know, that HC is the best 1-8 team in the country. We've also been playing meaningful football at HC far longer than that school for Southern gents who couldn't get into West Point.

I thought VMI was in the Big South.... :D

[Go...gate]

i believe western carolina would win the pl. You have been exposed by HOLY CROSS.... and your entire league is just slightly better than the pioneer

We need to get The Citadel into the Patriot League.

[citdog]

I'll have the good gentleman know, that HC is the best 1-8 team in the country. We've also been playing meaningful football at HC far longer than that school for Southern gents who couldn't get into West Point.

meaningful football? The pl doesn't play that now. We have played football for 105 years all of them at the d1 level.

[Sader87]

Holy Cross was playing much more meaningful football from the 1930's through the 1980's than the Citadel could only dream about....do a little research.

[RichH2]

Aww, dont let citdog get you. Actually he is a good guy with a rather quirky sense of humor and he loves to troll us.
We gave up over 500 yds to Cross . DCs best get their act together. Neither they nor the players were ready today. Mike and Ryan saved us.

[RichH2]

Just had an idea. Have Coach K call the D from California.

[Sader87]

I'll give El Cid this...the PL has become somewhat of a joke defensively....it's obvious that we don't have scholarship-level kids playing D for the most part overall.

[DFW HOYA]

The Bulldogs need to play a game up in Washington DC. When was the last time the cadets played that far up in Union controlled territory?

[RichH2]

Boy, I didn't think Citadel was even allowed north of zVirginia. What is the world coming to?

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Hats off to the Saders and coach Gilmore. You guys gave LU everything they could handle.

[citdog]

The Bulldogs need to play a game up in Washington DC. When was the last time the cadets played that far up in Union controlled territory?

defeated princeton in new jersey in 2009. Had a great tailgate under the STAINLESS BANNER.

[Go...gate]

Aww, dont let citdog get you. Actually he is a good guy with a rather quirky sense of humor and he loves to troll us. We gave up over 500 yds to Cross . DCs best get their act together. Neither they nor the players were ready today. Mike and Ryan saved us.

Agree wholeheartedly.

[ngineer]

I watched this on the internet and listened to the Lehigh broadcast. Can't imagine how the fans in the stands felt as I was drained,..as was my Yuenglings! Having Spadola back was huge. I don't recall the announcers talking about it, but it seemed to me that Chagani was out for most if not all of the second half, which really impacted the effectiveness of our DL. He really eats up the middle and his backup is about 30 lbs lighter. We really need him in there against Colgate. They did expect Haggins to return to the line up next week as well as Laughery who was missing at LB.

[LehighU11]

I watched this on the internet and listened to the Lehigh broadcast. Can't imagine how the fans in the stands felt as I was drained,..as was my Yuenglings! Having Spadola back was huge. I don't recall the announcers talking about it, but it seemed to me that Chagani was out for most if not all of the second half, which really impacted the effectiveness of our DL. He really eats up the middle and his backup is about 30 lbs lighter. We really need him in there against Colgate. They did expect Haggins to return to the line up next week as well as Laughery who was missing at LB.

We certainly missed Loughery in this one. Same with the second half against the Hoyas. He can not return soon enough. Did not know that Chagani was missing for the second half, as I was listening to the HC audio. He usually ties up a couple O-lineman and has a significant effect on D. Hopefully with power restored, everyone can rest up and get healthy for next week. We'll have our hands full with McCarney and the 'gate O.

[RichH2]

Chagani not in does explain a bit 3rd period. Did it seem to you that 2ndary very poor today and that was supposed.to be our strength?

[Sader87]

Again, Holy Cross has a pretty good offense most days...I'd even say collectively they may have the best overall corps of receivers (Fess, Mistretta, Touloise, Schneider etc) in the league actually. That being said, I think just about every defensive unit in the PL is sub-par.

i know you guys are loathe to admit it, but Lehigh is really not that much better than Holy Cross...nor is anyone in the PL that much better or worse than anyone else.

[Lehigh'98]

I will still stand by this being a HORRIBLE situational spot for Lehigh. 1. Look ahead to Colgate. 2. Weather distractions all week. 3. Underrated team last chance for a big win and very hungry on their home turf. This was their Super Bowl this year. ..... Hats off to HC, they played great from what I can tell. I expect to see a completely different team next week at home for all the marbles. It will be an intense game. Don't be surprised if they finally put it together next week.

[RichH2]

98
We-ve been saying that all yr. I hope you're right.
Parity yup cept for Gate offense.

[Lehigh'98]

I like them much better as a perceived dog than what they were this week, which was expected blowout. Only thing that has me worried next week is Colgate will be looking to make a statement and take the league back. LU has a very long W streak going.

[van]

Again, Holy Cross has a pretty good offense most days...I'd even say collectively they may have the best overall corps of receivers (Fess, Mistretta, Touloise, Schneider etc) in the league actually. That being said, I think just about every defensive unit in the PL is sub-par.

i know you guys are loathe to admit it, but Lehigh is really not that much better than Holy Cross...nor is anyone in the PL that much better or worse than anyone else.

I thought Cross was 2nd best team in the league this year and always figured this game would decide the league title. Gate caught me completely by surprise, next week will be the league championship.

[Hawk98]

Holy Cross and Lehigh aren't that different .. both are pretty good teams. The difference between 9-0 and 1-8 is that one team believes they will win in the 4th quarter, and the other team hopes they don't blow it. Confidence is an amazingly powerful thing, and each time Lehigh wins like this it will make them a tougher out in the postseason, and each time HC losses like this it sends them deeper into the death spiral. HC could be up 24-3 going into the 4th next week, and do you think those kids will believe they will win?

If HC won a couple of early season close games and Lehigh dropped a couple of them, the records could be reversed.

[LEHIGH07]

There is parity in the PL just like every other league in the country - there is nothing special about the PL in regards to parity. The OVC, CAA, Sourthern and all the FBC conferences they all have it....its not different than any other conference in the country or any other year for that matter. Its college football and anyone can beat anyone, so just b/c LU pulls out W's by the skin of their teeth sometimes lets not pull the "parity" card in the league to bring down their success - THEY WIN......they have won 18 straight league games, 18 STRAIGHT! Hows that for parity?!!

[Lehigh Football Nation]

This game came down to two plays. Two plays! The Spadola catch in the end zone, where Cross' pass coverage somehow lost him, and that Tyler Ward pass break-up to get the ball back to set up the game-winning strike. And - you know what? - That FG attempt was a lot closer than people gave credit for. It had the distance. I really, really want to say hats off to Gilmore and company. I know you'll be back next year.

[Wallace]

...they have won 18 straight league games, 18 STRAIGHT! Hows that for parity?!!

Ask the Harlem Globetrotters how many games they have won in a row? Lehigh needs to win the PL and get the AQ.

[Sader87]

No league has as much uncertainty/parity going into the week every week than the PL this year...Lehigh has won, and hats off to them, but they aren't that much better than the other schools of the PL.

Outside of the egg the Saders laid in Easton, they have been very competitve with every team in the PL, Colgate included.

Lehigh has a nice team this year but they aren't at the level (week-in, week-out) of a UNH or Harvard...truth be told they were probably the fourth best team we've played this year after UNH. Harvard and Colgate in that order.

[Lehigh'98]

See, LU is already a perceived home dog next week. I like those odds.

[Sader87]

I think Lehigh could/will prevail at home against Colgate but then I could see them losing at Lafayette the following week....which goes to my premise, and the name of this board, which should be the PL's new mantra this year i.e. "Any Given Saturday"

[RichH2]

Well everyone has a valid viewpoint. I do , of cousre prefer being the "worst" 9-0 team than the best 1-8 tsam. Agree difference is more that LU expects to win Cross has to learn how to win.

[Sader87]

Well everyone has a valid viewpoint. I do , of cousre prefer being the "worst" 9-0 team than the best 1-8 tsam. Agree difference is more that LU expects to win Cross has to learn how to win.


I think this is valid...I just get my hackles up when people think today's contest/result was "fluky" when if you take the entire body of work of both Lehigh and HC this year, it was anything but. Outside of their records this year, and with HC at home today, I'm not the least bit surprised that this ended up a "one-score" game today nor should anyone else for that matter.

[LEHIGH07]

No league has as much uncertainty/parity going into the week every week than the PL this year...Lehigh has won, and hats off to them, but they aren't that much better than the other schools of the PL.

Outside of the egg the Saders laid in Easton, they have been very competitve with every team in the PL, Colgate included.

Lehigh has a nice team this year but they aren't at the level (week-in, week-out) of a UNH or Harvard...truth be told they were probably the fourth best team we've played this year after UNH. Harvard and Colgate in that order.

I agree - If you're juding on style points Lehigh leaves much to be desired when compared with a Harvard, UNH or Colgate. But bringing it - Week-in and week-out?? Harvard lost to princeton (a team LU beat) and Colgate lost to South Dakota (a team who is 1-8, obviously with their only win coming against colgate). A team that brings it each week is a team that WINS week-in and week-out. I believe lehigh is the only team that can make that claim in 2012 in all of the FCS.....it may not be pretty, it may not be dominant but Lehigh wins! If the PL is even in talent - what sets lehigh apart to allow them to win 18 straight in the PL?

[ngineer]

Chagani not in does explain a bit 3rd period. Did it seem to you that 2ndary very poor today and that was supposed.to be our strength?

Holy Cross's two WRs are very good--all league material and their TE is a beast at 6'7". However, we didn't have much pressure on the QB. Opening play sack was it. Their QB's were on effective, but the WR's made at least 4 catches that were highlight material. I saw the problem more with not shutting down their run game.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I'm sure it's already been said, but OV-ER-RA-TED. xcoffeex

[ngineer]

Again, Holy Cross has a pretty good offense most days...I'd even say collectively they may have the best overall corps of receivers (Fess, Mistretta, Touloise, Schneider etc) in the league actually. That being said, I think just about every defensive unit in the PL is sub-par.

i know you guys are loathe to admit it, but Lehigh is really not that much better than Holy Cross...nor is anyone in the PL that much better or worse than anyone else.

Coen said before the game that the PL has the most parity of any league in the country, and I think he is right. After all you guys were picked 2nd in the preseason poll. All of the close scores around the league are bearing this out.

[ngineer]

This game came down to two plays. Two plays! The Spadola catch in the end zone, where Cross' pass coverage somehow lost him, and that Tyler Ward pass break-up to get the ball back to set up the game-winning strike. And - you know what? - That FG attempt was a lot closer than people gave credit for. It had the distance. I really, really want to say hats off to Gilmore and company. I know you'll be back next year.

I would point out that we missed a very makeable field goal and gave HC a very short field on the KO return fumble that put our tired D right back on the field with backs against the wall. Huge turnaround of momentum, both mentally and physically. What is great is the way this team came back down 12 points well into the fourth quarter. Colvin, who many have doubted this year, showed that he can lead the team in a come from behind fashion when the pressure is on and the chips are down.

[ngineer]

I think this is valid...I just get my hackles up when people think today's contest/result was "fluky" when if you take the entire body of work of both Lehigh and HC this year, it was anything but. Outside of their records this year, and with HC at home today, I'm not the least bit surprised that this ended up a "one-score" game today nor should anyone else for that matter.



College football is great because we never know how these young guys are going to ready from week to week. Look at the Notre Dame/Pitt game today. AFter last week, everyone expected a blowout at Notre Dame Stadium. Instead, the Panthers took it to the Irish and the ND was lucky to escape with a 3 OT win. HC's record could easily be much better this year, but the 1-7 going in is magnified by everyone. Look at South Dakota. Virtually the same record, but when you look closely, they have been very close to some very good teams. A very fine line some years between great records and lousy records.

[CFBfan]

I think this is valid...I just get my hackles up when people think today's contest/result was "fluky" when if you take the entire body of work of both Lehigh and HC this year, it was anything but. Outside of their records this year, and with HC at home today, I'm not the least bit surprised that this ended up a "one-score" game today nor should anyone else for that matter.

Bottom line; you are who your record says you are! 9 - 0 is 9 - 0 and 1 - 8 is 1 - 8.

[Sader87]

Bottom line; you are who your record says you are! 9 - 0 is 9 - 0 and 1 - 8 is 1 - 8.

True but yesterday's final score should not be all that surprising given that HC has lost a host of close games and Lehigh has won a lot of close ones this year...just sayin'

[Engineer86]

I'm sure it's already been said, but OV-ER-RA-TED. xcoffeex

Dude this is a Lehigh-HC thread, there is a separate EWU thread, unless there is not enough interest xcoffeex