AGS Week 5 Poll Results

[AGSPoll]

1 North Dakota State Bison 2487 96
2 Youngstown State Penguins 2332 1
3 Old Dominion Monarchs 2178 1
4 Montana State Bobcats 2095
5 Wofford Terriers 1966
6 James Madison Dukes 1942
7 Eastern Washington Eagles 1810
8 Illinois State Redbirds 1700
9 Georgia Southern Eagles 1603
10 Stony Brook Seawolves 1419
11 Cal Poly Mustangs 1367 2
12 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1342
13 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 1209
14 Towson Tigers 1149
15 Appalachian State Mountaineers 990
16 The Citadel Bulldogs 964
17 New Hampshire Wildcats 865
18 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 835
19 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 780
20 Albany Great Danes 779
21 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 627
22 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 452
23 Central Arkansas Bears 328
24 Northern Iowa Panthers 288
25 McNeese State Cowboys 266

Most Significant Win:
Stony Brook Seawolves

Most Significant Loss:
Northern Iowa Panthers
The Citadel Bulldogs


26 Harvard Crimson 196
27 Villanova Wildcats 147
28 Tennessee State Tigers 129
29 Indiana State Sycamores 52
30 Montana Grizzlies 41
31 Samford Bulldogs 35
32 Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 24
33 Eastern Illinois Panthers 20
34T Sacramento State Hornets 16
34T Alabama A&M Bulldogs 16
36T North Dakota 9
36T Yale Bulldogs 9
38 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 8
39 South Dakota Coyotes 6
40 Chattanooga Mocs 5

[frozennorth]

UNI is underrated.

*puts on flamesuit*

[bobcathpdevil56]

Dang North Dakota took a huge hit, and glad to see everyone else struggled with placing the Citadel.

[cpalum]

Wow...Cal Poly got 2 votes for #1 .......not sure I can say that but I certainly appreciate their perspective.

[bluehenbillk]

Equal to the CS poll, both better than TSN.

Too high: Lehigh & No Iowa

Too low: SDSU & 'Nova

[Dane96]

Yep...El Cid was so hard to place...it's like, "ERRR....was that a hiccup game?"

This poll also causes me to call out the 9 voters who gave votes to YALE.

ARE Y'ALL FOR REAL?!?!?

Yale 24 - GTown 21
Cornell 45 - Yale 6
Colgate 47 - Yale 24

WHAT ON EARTH WHO HAVE THEM SNIFFING THE TOP 40...let alone 25?

People...get your **** in gear. It is week 6.

[bluehenbillk]

Here's how the poll should have looked, which is mine....

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Wofford Terriers
4: Old Dominion Monarchs
5: Montana State Bobcats
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: James Madison Dukes
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Cal Poly Mustangs
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats
11: Georgia Southern Eagles
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
15: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
16: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
17: Towson Tigers
18: The Citadel Bulldogs
19: Appalachian State Mountaineers
20: Albany Great Danes
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
23: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
24: Central Arkansas Bears
25: Villanova Wildcats

[RadioFan]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Wofford Terriers
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: James Madison Dukes
8: Georgia Southern Eagles
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats
11: Cal Poly Mustangs
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: Appalachian State Mountaineers
15: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
16: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
17: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
18: New Hampshire Wildcats
19: Towson Tigers
20: Albany Great Danes
21: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
22: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
23: Central Arkansas Bears
24: McNeese State Cowboys
25: Northern Iowa Panthers

[Dane96]

Here's how the poll should have looked, which is mine....

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Wofford Terriers
4: Old Dominion Monarchs
5: Montana State Bobcats
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: James Madison Dukes
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Cal Poly Mustangs
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats
11: Georgia Southern Eagles
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
15: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
16: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
17: Towson Tigers
18: The Citadel Bulldogs
19: Appalachian State Mountaineers
20: Albany Great Danes
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
23: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
24: Central Arkansas Bears
25: Villanova Wildcats

Solid Poll.

[crusader11]

Here she is...pretty happy with it aside from the fact that I was an idiot and have Indiana State at 10 instead of Illinois State. Damnit.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Old Dominion Monarchs
5: James Madison Dukes
6: Montana State Bobcats
7: Wofford Terriers
8: Sam Houston State Bearkats
9: Towson Tigers
10: Indiana State Sycamores
11: Georgia Southern Eagles
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: Cal Poly Mustangs
15: New Hampshire Wildcats
16: Appalachian State Mountaineers
17: Albany Great Danes
18: Northern Iowa Panthers
19: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
20: Harvard Crimson
21: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
22: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
23: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
24: Central Arkansas Bears
25: Villanova Wildcats

[NoDak 4 Ever]

UNI is underrated.

*puts on flamesuit*

UNI has to win a game on the field, not potential, to get back into my poll.

[RadioFan]

potential


Chattown's favorite measurement.

[DSUrocks07]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: Illinois State Redbirds
5: James Madison Dukes
6: Georgia Southern Eagles
7: Old Dominion Monarchs
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: Montana State Bobcats
11: Northern Iowa Panthers
12: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
13: Towson Tigers
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Appalachian State Mountaineers
16: New Hampshire Wildcats
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: Albany Great Danes
19: The Citadel Bulldogs
20: Sam Houston State Bearkats
21: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
22: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
23: McNeese State Cowboys
24: Harvard Crimson
25: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens

[BlueHenSinfonian]

Here's mine:


1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Illinois State Redbirds
5: Montana State Bobcats
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Cal Poly Mustangs
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: Georgia Southern Eagles
13: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
14: Albany Great Danes
15: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
16: Appalachian State Mountaineers
17: New Hampshire Wildcats
18: McNeese State Cowboys
19: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
20: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
21: Harvard Crimson
22: Villanova Wildcats
23: The Citadel Bulldogs
24: Sam Houston State Bearkats
25: Tennessee State Tigers

[RabidRabbit]

Rabid vote

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Illinois State Redbirds
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Cal Poly Mustangs
8: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Montana State Bobcats
11: New Hampshire Wildcats
12: Appalachian State Mountaineers
13: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
14: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
15: Stony Brook Seawolves
16: Sam Houston State Bearkats
17: Georgia Southern Eagles
18: Towson Tigers
19: The Citadel Bulldogs
20: Harvard Crimson
21: Sacramento State Hornets
22: McNeese State Cowboys
23: Indiana State Sycamores
24: Albany Great Danes
25: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

[WrenFGun]

Just will take an opportunity to point out a few things:

#1. The 17th ranked team in the country, who has a 20 point win over the #22 team in the country, lost on the road to the #3 ranked team by 3 points. I think this is more a case of #3 being overrated, but 14 spots in the rankings separate those two?

#2. Lehigh is 5-0, with the following wins (margin in parenthesis): Monmouth (10), CCSU (21), Princeton (3), Liberty (2), Fordham (3). That's FOUR wins by teams outside the top 25 by 10 points or less. Liberty is a team that got beat by a team NOT in the top 25 by more than 2 points. CCSU lost by 33 to UNH, who is ranked behind Lehigh in the poll. Fordham lost by 15 points to Villanova, who is way behind Lehigh in the poll..what is going on here?

[BisonBacker]

Just a comment, how strange is it to not see Montana ranked? That and UNI at #24? UNI didn't make my poll but it was hard to leave them out. but at 1-4 how do you place them? SOS they have an argument but still they are 1-4. Interesting and yet a tough call.

[MTfan4life]

I debated a while when deciding whether to rank Villanova or TSU in the bottom spot.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Youngstown State Penguins
4: James Madison Dukes
5: Old Dominion Monarchs
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats
11: Georgia Southern Eagles
12: Cal Poly Mustangs
13: Towson Tigers
14: The Citadel Bulldogs
15: Appalachian State Mountaineers
16: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
17: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
18: Central Arkansas Bears
19: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
20: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
21: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
22: Albany Great Danes
23: New Hampshire Wildcats
24: McNeese State Cowboys
25: Tennessee State Tigers

[narc]

I'm not allowed to vote apparently, but...

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Wofford Terriers
5: James Madison Dukes
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Old Dominion Monarchs
8: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
9: Cal Poly Mustangs
10: The Citadel Bulldogs
11: Eastern Washington Eagles
12: Towson Tigers
13: Georgia Southern Eagles
14: Stony Brook Seawolves
15: New Hampshire Wildcats
16: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
17: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
18: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
19: Appalachian State Mountaineers
20: Villanova Wildcats
21: Albany Great Danes
22: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
23: Tennessee State Tigers
24: Central Arkansas Bears
25: Sam Houston State Bearkats

[crusader11]

Lehigh is a top 25 team, but they are continually be ranked 4-6 spots too high every week. Methinks many recall how good Lehigh was last year, ranked them in their top 15, see that they own a 5-0 record, and continue to rank them in the top 15. Just my hypothesis.

Don't get me wrong, they are a legitimate top 25 team who finds a way to win, but they're close to #20 than #10.

[Gil Dobie]

I'm still gun-shy on UNH after losing that bad to Minnesota.

[Professor Chaos]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Youngstown State Penguins
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: James Madison Dukes
6: Old Dominion Monarchs
7: Stony Brook Seawolves
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Towson Tigers
10: Georgia Southern Eagles
11: Sam Houston State Bearkats
12: Cal Poly Mustangs
13: Illinois State Redbirds
14: Appalachian State Mountaineers
15: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
16: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
17: The Citadel Bulldogs
18: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
21: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
22: Albany Great Danes
23: Northern Iowa Panthers
24: Central Arkansas Bears
25: Tennessee State Tigers

I couldn't drop UNI from my top 25 completely. I didn't really think that they deserved to still be in the top 25 at this point but I just think they're so much better than the teams I was considering replacing them with I couldn't drop them out completely.

[WrenFGun]

I'm still gun-shy on UNH after losing that bad to Minnesota.

4-1 Minnesota? This is a game that saw UNH's Offensive Coordinator unable to make the trip (stroke-like symptoms, hospitalized) and saw their starting QB (Goldrich) leave the game on the second play. Now, Andy Vailas has proven a capable FCS QB, but at the time he was coming in with second-team reps and no OC.

[Professor Chaos]

4-1 Minnesota?
Yes, look at who they've played and look at the margins. They'll win two more games this year tops and I would bet the under on that if I had to.

[WrenFGun]

Yes, look at who they've played and look at the margins. They'll win two more games this year tops and I would bet the under on that if I had to.

I edited my above post ... but what would most FCS schools do against their schedule? I mean, Syracuse beat Stony Brook, who is #9 in our poll, and Minn beat them. I agree that it's not remarkable, but Minnesota would be a top 5-10 FCS school, no doubt, and maybe higher. Combine that with missing your QB and your OC, and yeah, I think there are some reasons why it was as bad as it was.

[aceinthehole]

Just will take an opportunity to point out a few things:

#1. The 17th ranked team in the country, who has a 20 point win over the #22 team in the country, lost on the road to the #3 ranked team by 3 points. I think this is more a case of #3 being overrated, but 14 spots in the rankings separate those two?

#2. Lehigh is 5-0, with the following wins (margin in parenthesis): Monmouth (10), CCSU (21), Princeton (3), Liberty (2), Fordham (3). That's FOUR wins by teams outside the top 25 by 10 points or less. Liberty is a team that got beat by a team NOT in the top 25 by more than 2 points. CCSU lost by 33 to UNH, who is ranked behind Lehigh in the poll. Fordham lost by 15 points to Villanova, who is way behind Lehigh in the poll..what is going on here?

My two cents on rankings:

Stony Brook (between 8-14)
New Hampshire (between 12-18)
Lehigh (between 14-20)
Albany (between 16-23)

[UNHWILDCATS05]

I debated a while when deciding whether to rank Villanova or TSU in the bottom spot.

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Youngstown State Penguins
4: James Madison Dukes
5: Old Dominion Monarchs
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats
11: Georgia Southern Eagles
12: Cal Poly Mustangs
13: Towson Tigers
14: The Citadel Bulldogs
15: Appalachian State Mountaineers
16: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
17: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
18: Central Arkansas Bears
19: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
20: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
21: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
22: Albany Great Danes
23: New Hampshire Wildcats
24: McNeese State Cowboys
25: Tennessee State Tigers


???

[asumike83]

Fire at will!

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: James Madison Dukes
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Stony Brook Seawolves
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats
11: Cal Poly Mustangs
12: Georgia Southern Eagles
13: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
14: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
15: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
16: The Citadel Bulldogs
17: New Hampshire Wildcats
18: Appalachian State Mountaineers
19: Albany Great Danes
20: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
21: Northern Iowa Panthers
22: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
23: McNeese State Cowboys
24: Harvard Crimson
25: Villanova Wildcats

EDIT: Just realized I somehow omitted Towson. D'oh! Had them in there and forgot to put them back in when I shuffled some teams around. If I could do it again, drop Nova from #25 and throw in Towson at #14.

[Sammy94]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: James Madison Dukes
6: Montana State Bobcats
7: Wofford Terriers
8: Georgia Southern Eagles
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Towson Tigers
13: Cal Poly Mustangs
14: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
15: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
16: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
17: Appalachian State Mountaineers
18: Albany Great Danes
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
21: The Citadel Bulldogs
22: Central Arkansas Bears
23: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
24: Harvard Crimson
25: McNeese State Cowboys

[bjtheflamesfan]

???

16927

New Hampshire is ahead of Delaware in the poll that is released so whatcha getting all up in arms for that somebody posted their poll (which is their opinion which last I checked they were entitled to in this country) and had them the way they did?

[Dane96]

My two cents on rankings:

Stony Brook (between 8-14)
New Hampshire (between 12-18)
Lehigh (between 14-20)
Albany (between 16-23)

Spot on...give or take a few spots

[darell1976]

Here was mine:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: James Madison Dukes
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Cal Poly Mustangs
10: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
11: Georgia Southern Eagles
12: Sam Houston State Bearkats
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: Stony Brook Seawolves
15: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
16: Appalachian State Mountaineers
17: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
18: Towson Tigers
19: Albany Great Danes
20: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
21: New Hampshire Wildcats
22: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
23: McNeese State Cowboys
24: Tennessee State Tigers
25: Central Arkansas Bears

I can see UND getting some votes next week with an upset win over EWU...maybe not to enter the polls but on the road to getting towards #25 again.

[MTfan4life]

???

Delaware has been quite an enigma for me so far. I'll also admit that I lost a little respect for UNH after assuming they'd at least compete and maybe beat Minnesota. They're gaining respect back on my side of things and don't worry, it won't go unnoticed as I do tend to throw the nod toward the CAA on occasion. There are 122 teams, so head to head can't always be the exclusive way to rank.

[BisonBacker]

My two cents on rankings:

Stony Brook (between 8-14)
New Hampshire (between 12-18)
Lehigh (between 14-20)
Albany (between 16-23)

Stony Brook (between 8-14) 11
New Hampshire (between 12-18) 16
Lehigh (between 14-20) 8
Albany (between 16-23) 14

Here is where I had them in my poll.

[ekufbfan]

Rabid vote

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Illinois State Redbirds
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Cal Poly Mustangs
8: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Montana State Bobcats
11: New Hampshire Wildcats
12: Appalachian State Mountaineers
13: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
14: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
15: Stony Brook Seawolves
16: Sam Houston State Bearkats
17: Georgia Southern Eagles
18: Towson Tigers
19: The Citadel Bulldogs
20: Harvard Crimson
21: Sacramento State Hornets
22: McNeese State Cowboys
23: Indiana State Sycamores
24: Albany Great Danes
25: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

You may not view EKU as worthy of a vote or a place in the top 25, but the Colonels BEAT (your #25) UT-Martin Saturday 28-16 in Martin, TN! .xconfusedx

[jmufan999]

Delaware has been quite an enigma for me so far. I'll also admit that I lost a little respect for UNH after assuming they'd at least compete and maybe beat Minnesota. They're gaining respect back on my side of things and don't worry, it won't go unnoticed as I do tend to throw the nod toward the CAA on occasion. There are 122 teams, so head to head can't always be the exclusive way to rank.

Positive rep points given.

[HensRock]

Just will take an opportunity to point out a few things:

#1. The 17th ranked team in the country, who has a 20 point win over the #22 team in the country, lost on the road to the #3 ranked team by 3 points. I think this is more a case of #3 being overrated, but 14 spots in the rankings separate those two?

#2. Lehigh is 5-0, with the following wins (margin in parenthesis): Monmouth (10), CCSU (21), Princeton (3), Liberty (2), Fordham (3). That's FOUR wins by teams outside the top 25 by 10 points or less. Liberty is a team that got beat by a team NOT in the top 25 by more than 2 points. CCSU lost by 33 to UNH, who is ranked behind Lehigh in the poll. Fordham lost by 15 points to Villanova, who is way behind Lehigh in the poll..what is going on here?

I too think that most pollsters are voting UNH too low and Lehigh and ODU too high. New Hampshire and ODU should be right next to each other IMO and both in Top 10, but not Top 5..

[Pard4Life]

1 North Dakota State Bison 2487 96
2 Youngstown State Penguins 2332 1
3 Old Dominion Monarchs 2178 1
4 Montana State Bobcats 2095
5 Wofford Terriers 1966
6 James Madison Dukes 1942
7 Eastern Washington Eagles 1810
8 Illinois State Redbirds 1700
9 Georgia Southern Eagles 1603
10 Stony Brook Seawolves 1419
11 Cal Poly Mustangs 1367 2
12 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1342
13 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 1209
14 Towson Tigers 1149
15 Appalachian State Mountaineers 990
16 The Citadel Bulldogs 964
17 New Hampshire Wildcats 865
18 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 835
19 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 780
20 Albany Great Danes 779
21 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 627
22 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 452
23 Central Arkansas Bears 328
24 Northern Iowa Panthers 288
25 McNeese State Cowboys 266

Most Significant Win:
Stony Brook Seawolves

Most Significant Loss:
Northern Iowa Panthers
The Citadel Bulldogs


26 Harvard Crimson 196
27 Villanova Wildcats 147
28 Tennessee State Tigers 129
29 Indiana State Sycamores 52
30 Montana Grizzlies 41
31 Samford Bulldogs 35
32 Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 24
33 Eastern Illinois Panthers 20
34T Sacramento State Hornets 16
34T Alabama A&M Bulldogs 16
36T North Dakota 9
36T Yale Bulldogs 9
38 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 8
39 South Dakota Coyotes 6
40 Chattanooga Mocs 5

Uuuuhhhhhhhhh....

[PantherRob82]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Georgia Southern Eagles
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Cal Poly Mustangs
8: Stony Brook Seawolves
9: Appalachian State Mountaineers
10: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
11: James Madison Dukes
12: Eastern Washington Eagles
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: The Citadel Bulldogs
15: Albany Great Danes
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Sam Houston State Bearkats
18: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
19: Central Arkansas Bears
20: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
21: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
22: McNeese State Cowboys
23: Villanova Wildcats
24: Tennessee State Tigers
25: Harvard Crimson

In Waiting:
Northern Iowa Panthers
Montana Grizzlies
Samford Bulldogs
North Dakota
Stephen F Austin Lumberjacks
Richmond Spiders

[UNHWILDCATS05]

16927

New Hampshire is ahead of Delaware in the poll that is released so whatcha getting all up in arms for that somebody posted their poll (which is their opinion which last I checked they were entitled to in this country) and had them the way they did?

Since when does "???" equal "so up in arms"? Also, when did I ever say that he wasn't entitled to his opinion. I am curious about why he voted the way he did, so I asked. Just as someone is entitled to their opinion when they vote; if they make their opinion public, others are entitled to question it...

RELAX

[UNHWILDCATS05]

Here was mine:

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: James Madison Dukes
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Cal Poly Mustangs
10: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
11: Georgia Southern Eagles
12: Sam Houston State Bearkats
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: Stony Brook Seawolves
15: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
16: Appalachian State Mountaineers
17: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
18: Towson Tigers
19: Albany Great Danes
20: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
21: New Hampshire Wildcats
22: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
23: McNeese State Cowboys
24: Tennessee State Tigers
25: Central Arkansas Bears


Again... ???

[TheRevSFA]

Here was mine. Yes I know I homered some with SFA, but eh..

I also realized I unintentionally flip-flopped Appy and Citadel. Sorry El Cid

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: James Madison Dukes
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Georgia Southern Eagles
10: Cal Poly Mustangs
11: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
14: Sam Houston State Bearkats
15: Towson Tigers
16: New Hampshire Wildcats
17: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
18: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
19: Appalachian State Mountaineers
20: The Citadel Bulldogs
21: Albany Great Danes
22: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
23: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
24: Central Arkansas Bears
25: Northern Iowa Panthers

[crusader11]

My two cents on rankings:

Stony Brook (between 8-14)
New Hampshire (between 12-18)
Lehigh (between 14-20)
Albany (between 16-23)

In my poll I had: SBU 12, UNH, 15, Lehigh, 21, Albany, 17.

[THE HERD]

I can't believe hardly anyone has ISUr in the top five. They are undefeated with a FBS win and some nice quality FCS wins. They should have been in the playoffs last year and got screwed big time in my opinion.

[asumike83]

I can't believe hardly anyone has ISUr in the top five. They are undefeated with a FBS win and some nice quality FCS wins. They should have been in the playoffs last year and got screwed big time in my opinion.

They definitely have an argument for top five, although I think the majority of the teams in the poll would handle EMU.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh is a top 25 team, but they are continually be ranked 4-6 spots too high every week. Methinks many recall how good Lehigh was last year, ranked them in their top 15, see that they own a 5-0 record, and continue to rank them in the top 15. Just my hypothesis.

Don't get me wrong, they are a legitimate top 25 team who finds a way to win, but they're close to #20 than #10.


Lehigh is very solid. Their offense is getting there and their defense, overall, is solid. They're good at taking away your strength. If they continue to improve they'll be a top 10 team. I'd love to see them get a shot at Montana St. The Bobcats have been a lot like Lehigh yet everyone loves them.

From a phone

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

My Stab

1: NDSU Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: James Madison Dukes
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Illinois State Redbirds
6: Montana State Bobcats
7: Stony Brook Seawolves
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Old Dominion Monarchs
10: Albany Great Danes
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: Georgia Southern Eagles
13: Cal Poly Mustangs
14: The Citadel Bulldogs
15: Appalachian State Mountaineers
16: Towson Tigers
17: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
18: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
19: Sam Houston State Bearkats
20: New Hampshire Wildcats
21: Harvard Crimson
22: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
23: Tennessee State Tigers
24: Villanova Wildcats
25: Central Arkansas Bears

[Cocky]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Georgia Southern Eagles
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Cal Poly Mustangs
8: Stony Brook Seawolves
9: Appalachian State Mountaineers
10: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
11: James Madison Dukes
12: Eastern Washington Eagles
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: The Citadel Bulldogs
15: Albany Great Danes
16: Wofford Terriers
17: Sam Houston State Bearkats
18: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
19: Central Arkansas Bears
20: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
21: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
22: McNeese State Cowboys
23: Villanova Wildcats
24: Tennessee State Tigers
25: Harvard Crimson

In Waiting:
Northern Iowa Panthers
Montana Grizzlies
Samford Bulldogs
North Dakota
Stephen F Austin Lumberjacks
Richmond Spiders

I would at least put EKU in the waiting group. They have a solid team.

[Engineer86]

Just will take an opportunity to point out a few things:

#1. The 17th ranked team in the country, who has a 20 point win over the #22 team in the country, lost on the road to the #3 ranked team by 3 points. I think this is more a case of #3 being overrated, but 14 spots in the rankings separate those two?

#2. Lehigh is 5-0, with the following wins (margin in parenthesis): Monmouth (10), CCSU (21), Princeton (3), Liberty (2), Fordham (3). That's FOUR wins by teams outside the top 25 by 10 points or less. Liberty is a team that got beat by a team NOT in the top 25 by more than 2 points. CCSU lost by 33 to UNH, who is ranked behind Lehigh in the poll. Fordham lost by 15 points to Villanova, who is way behind Lehigh in the poll..what is going on here?

Your CAA bias seems to be going on here. How did last year's CAA champ do last year?

[dbackjon]

I can't believe hardly anyone has ISUr in the top five. They are undefeated with a FBS win and some nice quality FCS wins. They should have been in the playoffs last year and got screwed big time in my opinion.

Nothing special yet - NAU has as solid if not better resume at this point.

But, they still have NDSU, UNI and YSU to get through. Win those, they will be top 5, easy.
They do miss SDSU, which has a better resume than ISUr, IMHO

[UNIFanSince1983]

I can't believe hardly anyone has ISUr in the top five. They are undefeated with a FBS win and some nice quality FCS wins. They should have been in the playoffs last year and got screwed big time in my opinion.

Now granted they have won all of them, but they seemed to have struggled against a couple of teams they probably shouldn't have struggled against. Maybe both EIU and South Dakota are better than I am giving credit for (more so EIU).

[THE HERD]

Nothing special yet - NAU has as solid if not better resume at this point.

But, they still have NDSU, UNI and YSU to get through. Win those, they will be top 5, easy.
They do miss SDSU, which has a better resume than ISUr, IMHO



Those are good points. Good luck on the rest of the season and maybe we will see you in the playoffs.....FargoDome preferabley. I don't think we have ever played you guys, maybe way back in the day, but I know we haven't in the last ten years or so. Well maybe we will meet up this year.

[DSUrocks07]

Now granted they have won all of them, but they seemed to have struggled against a couple of teams they probably shouldn't have struggled against. Maybe both EIU and South Dakota are better than I am giving credit for (more so EIU).

That's where it gets difficult, you have to go by the eye test with these teams. Instead of just looking at the scoreboard and seeing that a team is still undefeated.

[THE HERD]

Now granted they have won all of them, but they seemed to have struggled against a couple of teams they probably shouldn't have struggled against. Maybe both EIU and South Dakota are better than I am giving credit for (more so EIU).


Montana state has struggled with a few crappy teams too, but they are still there and no FBS win.

[THE HERD]

That's where it gets difficult, you have to go by the eye test with these teams. Instead of just looking at the scoreboard and seeing that a team is still undefeated.


I have seen them first hand in the FargoDome, granted it was last season, but I thought they had the most stoudt run defense that we played all year minus the Bearkats. They also have a very good senior qb in Brown and a load at rb. I'm not saying they will be top five at the end of the season, but up to this point they have a great argument.

[dbackjon]

Those are good points. Good luck on the rest of the season and maybe we will see you in the playoffs.....FargoDome preferabley. I don't think we have ever played you guys, maybe way back in the day, but I know we haven't in the last ten years or so. Well maybe we will meet up this year.



Thanks - you too!

We haven't played in 30+ years - but used to for awhile - we played 8 of 11 years from 71-81, NDSU holds series edge 5-3

[PantherRob82]

I would at least put EKU in the waiting group. They have a solid team.

Yeah, I think they're on my list too. I redo my poll every week, so not being on the radar this week doesn't mean much for next week.

[Gil Dobie]

Thanks - you too!

We haven't played in 30+ years - but used to for awhile - we played 8 of 11 years from 71-81, NDSU holds series edge 5-3

I remember that last game, listening on the radio. After that loss, NDSU won 10 straight and lost to Texas St (then SW Texas St) in the DII Championship game.

[WrenFGun]

Your CAA bias seems to be going on here. How did last year's CAA champ do last year?

What bias? I simply pointed their record out...

[LehighU11]

Here's mine. Moved Lehigh to the highest I've had them all season (15, 14, 18, 15, now 13). Arguably, they might be better placed between 16-20. Not the best looking wins, but only three other teams can claim 5 D1 wins. For me, that's top 15-worthy. Should probably have included Tennessee State...

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Old Dominion Monarchs
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Georgia Southern Eagles
6: James Madison Dukes
7: Stony Brook Seawolves
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Montana State Bobcats
10: Illinois State Redbirds
11: New Hampshire Wildcats
12: The Citadel Bulldogs
13: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
14: Cal Poly Mustangs
15: Towson Tigers
16: Sam Houston State Bearkats
17: Appalachian State Mountaineers
18: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
19: Albany Great Danes
20: Harvard Crimson
21: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
22: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
23: McNeese State Cowboys
24: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
25: Montana Grizzlies

[bobcathpdevil56]

Montana state has struggled with a few crappy teams too, but they are still there and no FBS win.

But, they are a returning quarter-finalist. I know it doesnt mean a whole lot, but gotta help a bit

[frozennorth]

They definitely have an argument for top five, although I think the majority of the teams in the poll would handle EMU.

emu so far appears worse then last year

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

I think the OVC is an enigma this year. Are the teams good, or just fooling me?

EKU - returns a solid core and is the frontrunner. Didn't look good after week 2 with a 7 point victory over Morehead St., but finding their groove now.
Tennessee St. - so far undefeated, but is their domination of HBCUs in OOC top 25 worthy? I say yes because Bethune-Cookman is supposed to win the MEAC.
EIU - simply explosive on offense, as I am sure any Illinois State fan could tell you. 3-2, but the most challenging schedule of the OVC teams.

In addition to the above teams, UT-Martin, Jacksonville St. and Tennessee Tech provide some decent depth.

I suppose voters at AGS are just waiting for the conference's first playoff win in many years before these schools get any respect. Like the MEAC, it's been tough to shake off the CAA or SoCon in the post season.

[Dane96]

I have Tenn State in...but...to say they should be in b/c they beat a team that should win the MEAC? How does that work. Frankly...the MEAC is really, really bad this year.

And Tenn Tech and Jax State?

Please pull up their records...show me the teams they played that garner them any consideration that those wins are deserving of a Top 25 spot.

I am curious...and maybe I am missing something. This is not sarcasm...but a serious "please show me so I can understand" post.

[Jazzman1522]

I have Tenn State in...but...to say they should be in b/c they beat a team that should win the MEAC? How does that work. Frankly...the MEAC is really, really bad this year.

And Tenn Tech and Jax State?

Please pull up their records...show me the teams they played that garner them any consideration that those wins are deserving of a Top 25 spot.

I am curious...and maybe I am missing something. This is not sarcasm...but a serious "please show me so I can understand" post.

I realize that this may not be my question to answer, but I don't think he's saying Tech and JSU are worthy of a top 25 spot, just that they provide depth to the conference. Tech is certainly (in my opinion) not worthy of a spot. Heck, not even close. And JSU was in the top 25 before EKU beat them by 30 a couple of weeks ago.

[UNHFan]

Here's how the poll should have looked, which is mine....

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: Youngstown State Penguins
3: Wofford Terriers
4: Old Dominion Monarchs
5: Montana State Bobcats
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: James Madison Dukes
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Cal Poly Mustangs
10: Sam Houston State Bearkats
11: Georgia Southern Eagles
12: Stony Brook Seawolves
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
15: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
16: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
17: Towson Tigers
18: The Citadel Bulldogs
19: Appalachian State Mountaineers
20: Albany Great Danes
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
23: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
24: Central Arkansas Bears
25: Villanova Wildcats

Wow spent some time on this poll.. Good Job! and to the Yale Voting Cult you should lose your voting privileges for rest of season.

[WileECoyote06]

I have Tenn State in...but...to say they should be in b/c they beat a team that should win the MEAC? How does that work. Frankly...the MEAC is really, really bad this year.

And Tenn Tech and Jax State?

Please pull up their records...show me the teams they played that garner them any consideration that those wins are deserving of a Top 25 spot.

I am curious...and maybe I am missing something. This is not sarcasm...but a serious "please show me so I can understand" post.

The MEAC has not had success against FBS teams, but the MEACs FCS out of conference record is better than the NECs and the Big South. The NEC and Big South have two top-twenty teams, and then there is everyone else.

Winning % vs other FCS conferences:

MEAC 38%
NEC 29%
Big South 28%

This is no guarantee of a playoff win, seeing as the MEAC will still likely be paired with a CAA or SoCon team; however the MEAC isn't any worse off this year and actually the league appears to be stronger this year than it has been in a while. They have some very bad teams at the bottom, but then again the MEAC also has more teams than either the Big South or the NEC.

[bjtheflamesfan]

I have Tenn State in...but...to say they should be in b/c they beat a team that should win the MEAC? How does that work. Frankly...the MEAC is really, really bad this year.

And Tenn Tech and Jax State?

Please pull up their records...show me the teams they played that garner them any consideration that those wins are deserving of a Top 25 spot.

I am curious...and maybe I am missing something. This is not sarcasm...but a serious "please show me so I can understand" post.


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[THE HERD]

Thanks - you too!

We haven't played in 30+ years - but used to for awhile - we played 8 of 11 years from 71-81, NDSU holds series edge 5-3


I figured we would have played way back, as I think we use to play a lot of the Big Sky teams. I got to college in 1990, which was the last year of the DII Championships, so I'm not familiar with who we played before say 1984-85ish.