Should Reggie Bush.....

[AppGuy04]

get paid more than Mario Williams?

Apparently he and his agent think so.

[GeauxColonels]

get paid more than Mario Williams?

Apparently he and his agent think so.
I'm thinking it's mainly because of his agent. His actions around the New Orleans area lead most of us down here to believe that he just wants to contribute and play football. But when you surround yourself with a team of blood-sucking, penny-pinching lawyers, agents and specialists trying as hard as they can to get every last cent out of your contract that they can...things can get ugly.

However, all reputable reports say that the Saints have thrown out a number once or twice but never even made a true offer yet.:twocents:

[goasu984Life]

Should he get paid as much as Mario Williams? No.
Will he get paid as much as Mario Williams? Probably.

The word out of Nashville is that the Titans are going to offer Vince Young close to No. 1 pick money, and he was the third overall pick, so I can see where Reggie Bush is coming from. However, if it comes down to $500,000 or $1 million from where Bush and his agent think they should be, then shut up and sign the contract.

[FUwolfpacker]

No he should absolutely not be paid more than Mario Williams. He was the number two pick, he should get number 2 pick money. Just because you're Reggie Bush doesn't mean you get to buck the whole system. If he wants to be paid close to #1 pick money then that's fine, but he should not be paid more than Mario.

[89Hen]

All of this #1 money, #2 money is complete bull****. I was always taught you make your own deals. :nonono2:

[AppGuy04]

All of this #1 money, #2 money is complete bull****. I was always taught you make your own deals. :nonono2:

Why do you think 1/2 of the 1st round picks aren't signed yet. They base it all on others and previous years and positions

[bluehenbillk]

Rookies shouldn't have the bargaining power they have in the NFL. Make it like the NBA & have them automatically slotted based on their pick.

Prove yourself in the pros & then you get paid for it.

[AppGuy04]

Rookies shouldn't have the bargaining power they have in the NFL. Make it like the NBA & have them automatically slotted based on their pick.

Prove yourself in the pros & then you get paid for it.

I agree

[goasu984Life]

Rookies shouldn't have the bargaining power they have in the NFL. Make it like the NBA & have them automatically slotted based on their pick.

Prove yourself in the pros & then you get paid for it.

I'm with you on that
:thumbsup:

[AppGuy04]

Vince Young's new contract could potentially pay him $58 million, thats $4 million more than Mario, but Mario has $.76 million more guaranteed money

[blackfordpu]

Rookies shouldn't have the bargaining power they have in the NFL. Make it like the NBA & have them automatically slotted based on their pick.

Prove yourself in the pros & then you get paid for it.

I agree and that was one good aspect of the XFL (remember that?:)).

The players only got paid if they won. Wow, what a concept.

[AppGuy04]

I agree and that was one good aspect of the XFL (remember that?:)).

The players only got paid if they won. Wow, what a concept.

League with one of the best rules goes under

[GeauxLions94]

Rookies shouldn't have the bargaining power they have in the NFL. Make it like the NBA & have them automatically slotted based on their pick.

Prove yourself in the pros & then you get paid for it.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :hurray: :hurray: :bow: :bow: xprost2x xprost2x :beerchug: :beerchug: xsmoochx xsmoochx

[kardplayer]

Rookies shouldn't have the bargaining power they have in the NFL. Make it like the NBA & have them automatically slotted based on their pick.

Prove yourself in the pros & then you get paid for it.

I believe that in every sport but the NFL. The fact that even the most promising careers can end on any play (Joe Theisman, Bo Jackson, Michael Irvin, Dennis Byrd, Mike Utley, etc. etc. etc.) means these guys have to negotiate hard on every contract. And they can't pull a Mo Vaughn and get paid out on a guaranteed contract after they break - their teams cut them.

They've dedicated their lives to a career that for most lasts what... less than 5 years?

On top of that, the life expectancy of an NFL player is far shorter than the average American male.

The NFL is a business and these guys are businessmen. When someone graduates Harvard with an MBA, they get huge signing bonuses (relatively to the general American population - not to an NFL player) to go to an investment bank or a consulting firm - why should it be different for these guys? The college players have proven far more that they are worthy than some Ivy League grad...

[jstate83]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
People are getting away from signing bonuses for that reason.............Getting hurt, can't play anymore, and that "puffed up" contract for $80 million with $15 million as a signing is worthless.

Guaranteed money is what players are holding out for now.
Smart move.

In Vince Young's case................$27 million in guarantee's beat out $15 million in a signing bonus any day.
They can't ask for guaranteed mony back.

New Orleans Saint's Training Camp.........Reggie Bush: Missing at check in time. (http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060728/SPORTS02/607280367/1063/SPORTS)

[AppGuy04]

No other pick has ever gotten more guaranteed money than the #1 pick in their draft, and I don't think Reggie should be any different, no matter how much he thinks he was the #1 pick.

[jstate83]

No other pick has ever gotten more guaranteed money than the #1 pick in their draft, and I don't think Reggie should be any different, no matter how much he thinks he was the #1 pick.

He ain't getting more than Vince.

I just think he's holding out to get AS CLOSE to Vince as he can.............with the same type of guarantee's.

I don't think he's crazy enough to think a team will set a standard that will basically trash the pecking order for draft pick's.

NO NFL TEAM IS THAT CRAZY..................no matter how good a player is.:nod:

[AppGuy04]

I just hope he gets in camp soon, b/c otherwise he will start to lose popularity, much like Eli did, before he even plays an NFL game

[jstate83]

I just hope he gets in camp soon, b/c otherwise he will start to lose popularity, much like Eli did, before he even plays an NFL game

Yep......................But hey...................It's a business and he's gotta take the good with the bad.

Going down to watch them when I get off work.
It's a football madhouse down here with everybody starting at the same time...........Highschool, College, and pro's.:nod:

You know it's football season here when your sitting out at night, having a cold one, and all of a sudden you hear some highschool band praticing off in the distance.
People start "installing" their favorite school flag on their back windows.

You know the clashing of pads is next.:hurray:

[goasu984Life]

He should just get into camp and quit whining. He needs to be in camp. He's not gonna be just a "running back," per se. They are gonna throw the ball to him and try and center the offense around him, so he needs to get to camp.

[bluehenbillk]

If Reggie Bush is such a good player, why was he on the sidelines for USC's last 4 plays in the 4th quarter before Texas took the lead for good?

Or, is Pete Carroll that bad of a coach?

[Cap'n Cat]

All of this #1 money, #2 money is complete bull****. I was always taught you make your own deals. :nonono2:


I realize this flies in the face of a market economy way of thinkin', but I'm for a rookie maximum kinda thing. How many of these billion dollar dudes become duds? Lots of them. I think the business should have a mechanism to determine performance without the great risk tied to a mulit-mil deal.

In manufacturing, at least, we have introductory or probationary rates for new employees, designed, primarily, to see if they "work out", usually $2-$3 less than standard rate. After 2-3 years, they prove themselves and work their way into the higher wage.

They can't do this in pro sports?



My opinion only.

[AppGuy04]

I realize this flies in the face of a market economy way of thinkin', but I'm for a rookie maximum kinda thing. How many of these billion dollar dudes become duds? Lots of them. I think the business should have a mechanism to determine performance without the great risk tied to a mulit-mil deal.

In manufacturing, at least, we have introductory or probationary rates for new employees, designed, primarily, to see if they "work out", usually $2-$3 less than standard rate. After 2-3 years, they prove themselves and work their way into the higher wage.

They can't do this in pro sports?



My opinion only.

sounds like a plan, but all it takes is one idiot(team) to screw it up, and thats how we are at the current situation

[kardplayer]

I just hope he gets in camp soon, b/c otherwise he will start to lose popularity, much like Eli did, before he even plays an NFL game

Eli's popular in NY. I don't think all his dealings had much of an impact here. The 23-0 playoff loss, now that's another story.

[TexasTerror]

I hope Reggie Bush doesn't play at all this season...

Living in NOLA and being a Texans fan, I hope the Texans pick him up next year in the NFL draft after he goes a year without signing...

In all honesty, Bush has been helping out here in the NOLA community, even getting his sponsors and folks to put in $$$ to NOLA. He's a good guy and wants to play here. I think his agent is a bit of a lunatic...

[AppGuy04]

Eli's popular in NY. I don't think all his dealings had much of an impact here. The 23-0 playoff loss, now that's another story.

San Diego and the rest of the nation doesn't like him too much.

[blackfordpu]

If Reggie Bush is such a good player, why was he on the sidelines for USC's last 4 plays in the 4th quarter before Texas took the lead for good?

Or, is Pete Carroll that bad of a coach?

Neither one, White had been tearing up Texas all night long. How was Carroll to know that on fourth and two he would not be able to converty. They had been doing it the entire game. It was a good call but a better call by the defense.