Lehigh @ Liberty

[jcmanson]

There haven't been any Lehigh fans that have stopped by Flamefans.com, so I figured I'd come to you. What are your thoughts on the game this weekend? What are your team's strengths? Weaknesses? How do you describe the Princeton game being so close? How is Colvin adjusting to being the starter?

[RichH2]

We've been tied up arguing about attendance, and other crucial issues. I will be by as last yr. Just wish I could make game. I give you a definite edge this yr.

[LUHawker]

Stopped by, but don't want to register for another site.

That all said, I think this will be a close game. However, Lehigh has shown an ability to win; Liberty has not.

Liberty has played better competition, but I think as the season progresses, we will learn that Monmouth is pretty good team and Princeton better than their 1-9 record from last year, so Lehigh's wins against those two will look better later on.

Lehigh's defense is very stout, the offense is still developing. Colvin remains a question mark. An inconsistent offense. We're now headed into game 4, so if there isn't some marked offensive improvement, it will still be a good, but not excellent season.

[RichH2]

Well I tried. Neither the site nor I recall my pass word. Site gave me new but still wont let me log on. From the posts your fans seem to be counting a sure win. Boy are you in for a surprise. Lehigh D good. O inconsistent so far mostly due to OL shifting. Colvin not Lum but he is solid and if O can manage to show up in 3rd period it will be a close win for LU.

[jcmanson]

Lehigh's defense is very stout, the offense is still developing.

Replace Lehigh with Liberty and you have just defined ourselves. Should be an interesting matchup.

[jcmanson]

From the posts your fans seem to be counting a sure win. Boy are you in for a surprise.

Look at the Prediction thread. 13 for Liberty to win and 5 for Lehigh to win. Most of those 13 are by less than 1 score. We expect a very close entertaining game, and of course we favor our own team in a game like that.

[RichH2]

Just read preview thread. Big advantage for you is tougher schedule. Your game speed will be better to start. We will catch up. Key is 3rd period. O has not yet played in 3rd, if that continues Liberty will prevail absent your own screwups, which I hope are plentiful.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I expect a low scoring game. I was really impressed with the Flames defense against Montana. Their DL is not big but they swarm to the ball well and have good depth. Their DB's are big.#19 looks like a LB playing CB. On the flip side their OL is not very good. Lehigh's front 7 should be able to control the line of scrimmage. The QB looked solid throwing shorts passes when given time. Montana's secondary is very young. Lehigh definitely has a better secondary than Montana. #9 Pat Kelly is his favorite target. That kid is really good. The Flames still don't have much of a running game That's likely the product of a poor OL. Their special teams are very good imo. Their kicker has range to 50 and Kevin Fogg is a top return guy.

The one thing that I think helps Lehigh is their balance on offense. They simply have more weapons imo assuming they decide to show up for 60 minutes. I bet Haggins plays.

[Fear the Bird]

Wait are we all talking about the team that lost to Norfolk St being favored against the all mighty Lehigh?

[bjtheflamesfan]

Only 3 people who picked Liberty picked a double digit spread. This is definitely going to be an entertaining game to watch as my fellow Flames fan noted

[Fear the Bird]

Which, no offense to Liberty, leads me to believe that Lehigh is greatly overrated even as 15/16 in the country. Liberty lost at home to a team that just lost to Howard!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Which, no offense to Liberty, leads me to believe that Lehigh is greatly overrated even as 15/16 in the country. Liberty lost at home to a team that just lost to Howard!

Liberty has talent. Even the Montana fans were impressed. The Flames biggest downfall is their coaching imo. Turner Gill will sink that ship.

[RichH2]

Nerve wracking and entertaining probably the same in this context.

[Go Apps]

I will take Liberty in this one

[Fear the Bird]

Wow is that where Turner Gill ended up? How many jobs has he had in the last 5 years? Buffalo, Kansas, Liberty?

[RichH2]

Gill did a great job at Buffalo, not so much at Kansas. Both squads still uner construction. Liberty with schollies should have more good players. We won last yr necause we had very good D and a great qb. This yr our superlatives are a bit less but we have more talent overall. Is that enuf? We'll see.

[jcmanson]

Which, no offense to Liberty, leads me to believe that Lehigh is greatly overrated even as 15/16 in the country. Liberty lost at home to a team that just lost to Howard!

You can't always play that game. Yes the NSU game was bad for LU to lose. LU should have won. If we played NSU 10 times, I believe LU would win 7-8 times. If NSU played Howard 10 times, I think NSU would win 7-8 times. Liberty is the best 0-3 team in the country!

Also, someone was mentioning Liberty having a big advantage on Special Teams. Liberty has given up a punt return for TD each of the last 2 games. Both of which were game changers.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

You can't always play that game. Yes the NSU game was bad for LU to lose. LU should have won. If we played NSU 10 times, I believe LU would win 7-8 times. If NSU played Howard 10 times, I think NSU would win 7-8 times. Liberty is the best 0-3 team in the country!

Also, someone was mentioning Liberty having a big advantage on Special Teams. Liberty has given up a punt return for TD each of the last 2 games. Both of which were game changers.

Nguyen had a great TD return against Liberty. Even so, Fogg is an excellent return guy and your kicker has a tremendous leg.

[jcmanson]

I agree with you. Our kicker just needs to work on his accuracy. I think he's 2/5 for the season, all of which would have been good from 60 if he was accurate.

[Pard4Life]

There haven't been any Lehigh fans that have stopped by Flamefans.com, so I figured I'd come to you. What are your thoughts on the game this weekend? What are your team's strengths? Weaknesses? How do you describe the Princeton game being so close? How is Colvin adjusting to being the starter?

That's because only four people are showing up for the game... they were moaning that their attendance this past weekend wasn't "counted" correctly.

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[Engineer86]

Wait are we all talking about the team that lost to Norfolk St being favored against the all mighty Lehigh?

We can't all schedule West Chester or refuse to play away OOC gamesxsmiley_wix

[Pard4Life]

We can't all schedule West Chester or refuse to play away OOC gamesxsmiley_wix

No, but Columbia, Princeton are the next best thing.

[RichH2]

Haggins stillout and OL shook up again. Hopefully this combo will work better. Not an encouraging sign.

[ngineer]

Yes, sorry to see Haggins not listed on the two deep. His absence has been a significant reason for the O's inconsistency. With Haggins healthy you have a TE who can block, has good hands and is a deep threat. The backups are not as good blocking (yet), have good hands, but aren't deep threats. Not having to worry too much about the TE allows more focus on the WRs. Run game needs to open up wlth some OL help. Defense is very good. I'm seeing a relatively low scoring game, 24-17, LU (Nawthin' LU that is!)

[van]

Haggins stillout and OL shook up again. Hopefully this combo will work better. Not an encouraging sign.

Not just Haggins, but Max Anderson must also be dinged since he is not on 2 deep. He looked very good when he got in last year and I would have expected him to be #2 TE.

[RichH2]

According to tweets Anderson wearing a boot. Coyle and Colgate both solid but inexperienced. Cant help but think it hurts blocking.

[IaaScribe]

For those who didn't know, Liberty's O-line looked bad last week because it was playing without All-American LG Malcolm Boyd, who is out for the year with a broken leg. His absence completely changed the dynamic of the group. They're very thin there now, only playing six O-linemen in the rotation. Montana just overwhelmed them up front.

[RichH2]

Haggins cleared to play. Will practice and go to Liberty.

[citdog]

Haggins cleared to play. Will practice and go to Liberty.



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[RichH2]

citdog LMAO we could use Bilbo and his sword Sat.

[van]

Haggins cleared to play. Will practice and go to Liberty.

Big surprise, did not even see him standing on the sidelines last week.

[RichH2]

LoRe tweeted it about an hr ago. Even if he is ltd to blocking it will be a tremendous boost.

[van]

LoRe tweeted it about an hr ago. Even if he is ltd to blocking it will be a tremendous boost.

Gotta get on his tweet.

[ngineer]

According to tweets Anderson wearing a boot. Coyle and Colgate both solid but inexperienced. Cant help but think it hurts blocking.
True, Andy implied that today at the luncheon. Haggins' absence has had an effect on the line. Experienced and talented cannot be replicated. Also note that Pelligrini is not over at LG. With injuries, it's like musical chairs on the OL. Hopefully they can get some consistency.
Team practiced indoors yesterday at Rauch with the band playing due to the monsoon storm. Good practice with the noise expected at Williams. Team is psyched to play in such an adversarial environment.

[ngineer]

Big surprise, did not even see him standing on the sidelines last week.

Yes, he was on sidelines in street clothes and jersey. Ankle is still an issue, but he will try and give it a go. Doubtful he'll be 100%, but presence is important. He's also the backup longsnapper.

[RichH2]

Saw Laub LS ,Lechner broke a finger.

[RichH2]

Injury lists out. Liberty a number of questionable for us. We seem in slightly better shape. Not overly optimistic given their schedule compared to our performance so far with 2 weak and 1 decent teams.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

My game preview. Breakdown and fearless prediction tomorrow, or perhaps tonight if I can swing it.

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2012/09/game-preview-lehigh-at-liberty-9222012.html

[R.A.]

Which, no offense to Liberty, leads me to believe that Lehigh is greatly overrated even as 15/16 in the country. Liberty lost at home to a team that just lost to Howard!

My Howard Bison will win quite a few games this season. If we are 4-1 after October 6th, I expect us to be ranked in the Top 25.

[Engineer86]

No, but Columbia, Princeton are the next best thing.

Yea Robert Morris and who, oh Princeton up next for you? Wow you are right throw those stones.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Lehigh @ Liberty Breakdown and Fearless Prediction:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2012/09/game-4-breakdown-lehigh-at-liberty.html

Should be a very, very close game down in Lynchburg, I think.

[LUHawker]

Just got my tix for me and my 7 year old.

Excited for the atmosphere at Williams.

[Pard4Life]

Lehigh @ Liberty Breakdown and Fearless Prediction:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2012/09/game-4-breakdown-lehigh-at-liberty.html

Should be a very, very close game down in Lynchburg, I think.

Another Homer pick? Where are your PL picks this week eh?

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Another Homer pick? Where are your PL picks this week eh?

I'll get 'em out there eventually. Believe me I flirted with taking the Flames.

[Sly Fox]

That's a fair perspective coming from someone who hasn't seen us in person. I too believe it will be a close game but I like our chances. I can't wait to watch it all go down on Saturday.

[van]

Based on having seen both home games at Goodman and watched video of CCSU game, the Lehigh team can be much better that they have showed to date. Can be does not equal will be, but if they play to their potential they will win, if they continue with sloppy and erratic, then could certainly be flying home 3-1.

[Pard4Life]

Based on having seen both home games at Goodman and watched video of CCSU game, the Lehigh team can be much better that they have showed to date. Can be does not equal will be, but if they play to their potential they will win, if they continue with sloppy and erratic, then could certainly be flying home 3-1.

Lehigh has to essentially play both halves and not commit bad penalties... football 101 tomorrow.

[knucklehead]

Funny, same formula lands Liberty the Win! Hope a lot of Lehigh fans come. Should be fun!

[ngineer]

Usually the story. The team that makes the least mistakes and plays all four quarters will win. So far Lehigh has not done either and it's time they do.

[ngineer]

Leaving for Liberty Saturday a.m. on the plane with the team. Wheels up at 10 a.m. See y'all in Williams Stadium! L-E-H-I-G-H, LEHIGH!

[RichH2]

Give'em hell ngineer. GoLEHIGH!!

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Leaving for Liberty Saturday a.m. on the plane with the team. Wheels up at 10 a.m. See y'all in Williams Stadium! L-E-H-I-G-H, LEHIGH!

See you on the plane!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Video preview....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL26BC4ABAAE48D18C&v=MsZeg7_wJbg&feature=player_detailpage

[Sly Fox]

Expect a packed house today with gorgeous weather and thousands of screaming high schoolers on campus. Wish I could be on campus this Saturday. Alas I'll be tuned into the broadcast like many Mountain Hawk fans.

[Footballhero]

This game is being televised locally on WFMZ Allentown channel 69, is that correct?

Mike

[Engineer86]

That's what the email from LU said

[Bogus Megapardus]

This game is being televised locally on WFMZ Allentown channel 69, is that correct?


My Titan TV guide shows that it's on Ch 69. I didn't realize that this game is tonight at 7:00 PM. For some reason I thought it was this afternoon at 2:00 PM. I guess that means I'll be forced to watch it. xcoolx

[RichH2]

Now have seen LU, GU, BU and LC. At this point , any of them can beat or lose to any of the other. Each has gaping deficits and a bunch of talented players. Clear as of today no dominant PL team.
Qb should be diferential, but none I've seen has separated himself from the rest.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh 7 Liberty 0

Lehigh intercepts the Flames QB on 4th then marches right down the field.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Spadola with a big play! Just made a fool out of Fogg...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh 14 Liberty 0 12:53 2Q

[Engineer86]

Can they play 4Qs tonight, that will be a key. Right now, the run defense scares me and I can imagine Liberty may wear us down.

[Engineer86]

No channel 69 coverage

[RichH2]

Great pASS TO RYAN TO SET UP TD. I PRAY FOR 4 Qs

[Engineer86]

How does Lehigh not get that ball

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That might be the worst offensive PI call i've ever seen.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Why not sneak it or run Barket?

[Engineer86]

Terrible calls on 3rd and 4th down and Liberty ball on there 45

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

TD Liberty!

Lehigh 14 Liberty 7 about 4:30 left 2Q

[Engineer86]

Lehi needs a score on this drive or those terrible calls on the last drive will be haunting. Up 14-0 you don't screw around!!!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Defense needs to get a stop here. Hawks get the ball to start the 2nd half.

[van]

Terrible calls on 3rd and 4th down and Liberty ball on there 45

I liked the 3rd down call, try to catch them off guard. Going for it on 4th down was dumb at that field position, gave them all the momentum.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow, this game has completely changed since the 4th down play.

TD Liberty...

[Engineer86]

Up 14, offensive genius screws around and we are back to square on. Third and inches just get the first down!

[van]

And now we're tied ...

[Engineer86]

And now he runs a draw so it will be half a game ... The half we have only shown up in once in three games!!!

[Bogus Megapardus]

Engineers D softening up late in the half. What gives?

[RichH2]

3rd and inches , ballsy call but still should habe sneaked. Momentum completely shifted. Refs are not calling PI. Liberty dbs getting aeay with lots of holding. Still we need to come out in 3rd. D is whipped.

[Franks Tanks]

The Channel 69 crew is doing the game, but the game isn't on Channel 69. Weird.

I am watching on the FCS network-whatever that is.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh's first series of the second half lasted 1:20. Not good....

[Engineer86]

I don't know how the liberty QB does it. He hits all of his receivers in stride. It seems so hard

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh's defense isn't going make it through the half....on the field way too much

big stop...the offense needs to do something....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Offense has completely gone in the tank since the 4th down stop. Colvin throws off his back foot way too much. He seems to drop back 10-15 yards every pass attempt.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Liberty driving. Hawk defense is running out of gas. The flood gates could open if the Flames get the lead.

[Engineer86]

If Lehigh is not going to run Colvin, then put a QB in the game!

[Engineer86]

If this is a loss, it hangs on the offensive coaching staff

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh forces a FG...Unless the offense can put together a drive I think Liberty will get the knockout blow on their next possession.

What's the TOP? 3 to 1 in favor of Liberty?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh goes 3 and out. I can't see the defense stopping Liberty anymore unless they force a turnover.

[Engineer86]

Say good night, another punt. Have i said Get a new QB

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That 3rd down conversion might break the back...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Liberty FG

Liberty 20 Lehigh 14 9:06 4Q

This is like watching Lehigh from '07 to '09. The defense is playing their hearts but the offense can't do a thing....

[RichH2]

Lehigh in the tank again another 3rd q when they dont show up. Whats wrong with Dave. D looks whipped.

[RichH2]

Lehigh O in the tank again another 3rd q when they dont show up. Whats wrong with Dave. D looks whipped.

[Engineer86]

Liberty keeps trying to keep Lehigh in the game

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

espn3.com feed has died....

[Engineer86]

espn3.com feed has died....

Mine is still up

[Southsider]

UN F ing believeable!!~!~

[Engineer86]

He is a great running back TD Lehigh

[RichH2]

D is playimg their hearts out, O has disappeared since 1st. I dont know the problem. OL cant run block. Whatever it is Dave has not fixed it. Oh well maybe O rested now and will come back and play in 4th.

[van]

No rest for the D on that drive, LOL.

[RichH2]

Wow , bog play by Mike. Notice our svores come quick. No rest for D. Well at least O has finally done something.

[Engineer86]

Pick 6 Lehigh!

[Engineer86]

28-20

[Southsider]

TD!!!!!!!!!! Lets hold on!!!!!

[van]

Guess we are becoming a 4th quarter team?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow, can the defense continue to fight for 7 more minutes?

[Engineer86]

Liberty is now shooting themselves in the ankle ... Their feet are gone

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

If I'm Coen I might consider using my timeouts to give the D a break if this drive extends much further.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That play should have been stopped for no gain. Arm tackling....

[Engineer86]

Let's go D. Must keep them out of the end zone!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

first and goal from the 5

[Engineer86]

This game reminds me of 2005 at UD

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow!! Lehigh just got screwed!!1

[Engineer86]

Ball was out before he scores, but ruled a TD

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

They stop the 2 pt conversion....

[Engineer86]

Wow, make up call. No call on PI on 2 pt conv. Onside kick coming

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

need to recover the onside kick!!!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Ugh, Lehigh recovers the onside kick but call a timeout before....ugh!!

[Engineer86]

Wow recover onside kick but bench called TO before the kick

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh recovers the second onside kick....They should be able to pretty much take a knee....

[Engineer86]

Liberty announcers are making a huge deal out of the PI, but nothing about the fumble the play before that Lehigh recovered

[Engineer86]

Lehigh ball

[Engineer86]

Al Davis would be so proud of the Engineers!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

First down! Lehigh just has to take a knee!! What win, this team certainly has tremendous heart and a great will to win.

[RichH2]

My heart having trouble . Thank God for Gabe.

[Engineer86]

Liberty hits the bal before the snap, but quite a scare

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Liberty using Greg Schiano tactics...

[Engineer86]

Game over

[Southsider]

That's what you call "Stealing One"!! How's that for winning ugly!!

[RichH2]

What a win. Still problems but Lord these guys are tough. Clutch plays by D. Mike has his issuds but boy he got the job done.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That's what you call "Stealing One"!! How's that for winning ugly!!

Not sure they really stole it. The defense played great all game and capitalized on the Liberty mistakes. Tonight was a "solid" 40 minute effort imo. The took off the final 5 minutes of the 2nd quarter and the entire 3rd tonight.

[Webzy]

Turner Gill strikes again xlolx he's going to coach them to a 2-9 season

[Webzy]

double

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Turner Gill strikes again xlolx he's going to coach them to a 2-9 season

I'll be surpised if he lasts more than a couple seasons.

[Southsider]

Not sure they really stole it. The defense played great all game and capitalized on the Liberty mistakes. Tonight was a "solid" 40 minute effort imo. The took off the final 5 minutes of the 2nd quarter and the entire 3rd tonight.

Was referring to the pick 6! But, point well taken. You have to play it out, even when you are getting you *** kicked up and down the field. Gotta admit, Colvin is a gamer.

[Bogus Megapardus]

This was a "find a way to win" game for sure. Congrats to the Engineers.

[Sly Fox]

Obviously we are furious with ourselves right now. Congrats to the Lehigh folks on the win.

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[RichH2]

Sly best of luck rest of the yr. Hope the series continues. Flame fans are a good bunch.

[Sly Fox]

Not going to lie ... we have to sit on this 0-4 record for two weeks until we open conference play. It isn't going to taste any better anytime soon. We are sick of dominating the stat sheets and taking L after L. But that is where is we stand. Thanks for the thoughts. If you made it down for the game, I'd love to hear thoughts on our gameday experience.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t6hiLg2jr6Y

[ngineer]

Not going to lie ... we have to sit on this 0-4 record for two weeks until we open conference play. It isn't going to taste any better anytime soon. We are sick of dominating the stat sheets and taking L after L. But that is where is we stand. Thanks for the thoughts. If you made it down for the game, I'd love to hear thoughts on our gameday experience.

Just got in from the airport (2:05 a.m.) and too wound up to sleep. Williams Stadium and its fans are by far the most vociferous we have experienced. Over 17.000 and a sea of red. Noise nonstop; but while a 'hostile' place for an opponent it was enjoyable. Met a lot of nice people and the hospitality by the school for our tailgate was great. We had a "loud" contingent of about 300+ relegated to the home side endzone, but we know the team heard us.
This game was won on heart and making fewer mistakes. Liberty made way too many penalties and the turnovers always kill. No question the Flames have a lot of talent (about 20 FBS transfers by my count) and at times we clearly were hurt by lack of speed. I have no idea what Cecchini is thinking right now. Little effort seems to be made to try and get the ball to Spadola. He was facing single coverage a number of times tonight and it seems to me at some point you have to trust your AA receiver to go and get the ball. Few slant calls and too many 'bubble/flat" attempts that were continually stopped. Defense played tremendous, coming up with big turnovers and stops throughout, but they were certainly exhausted (on the field 42 min.). It's all about scoring and Divers and Peery did a great job of making Liberty go the long way. When teams have to go 80+ yards, they score less than 20% of the time. So you end up with alot of yardage and first downs but not enough points.
Liberty has had a real rough start to their season, but the silver lining is they can win their league. No doubt in my mind with their talent. The only disappointment was at the end of the game at least 1/3 the Liberty team ran off the field without shaking hands. Very unclassy and something that surprised me very much. Best of luck to the Flames. The season is still salvageable.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Hard to sum up the game in a few words. I did post a recap on the blog I will undoubtedly clean up a bit tomorrow morning.

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2012/09/lehigh-28-liberty-26-final.html

Two things stand out to me. One: I wonder how Liberty will be once they get a win under their belt. They do seem to have improved since the Norfolk State game somewhat, and soon they will have some Big South opponent they will simply blow out of the water, like Chuck South or Presby. With a bit more confidence and time, could they run the league? I could see it. They need to sweep the league, beat Stony Brook at home, and go on the road and beat CCU in late October. This team could still fo it. But in this game, at this time, once Lehigh went up 21-20 the team and the crowd deflated like a balloon, and it's as if they knew they were going to lose.

The other thing that stood out is I felt Turner Gill didn't attack Lehigh at the end with enough urgency or emotion. A quick strike with 5 minutes left would have given them plenty of time to go for the TD, and even had they missed the 2-point conversion they had 3 timeouts and a chance to get the ball back. Instead, Lehigh was happy to bend but not break and let the clock fritter away. Even if Liberty had tied, Lehigh would have still had the ball with a minute and could have driven for the final score. I thought Gill's late-game management was really bad.

[HandoEX]

^ That is because Turner Gill is still a bad football coach. Seeing his debut at Kansas from the first row behind his bench proved that to me.

[Pards Rule]

Congrats to our neighbors, the Hawks, on a big win. Hey L & L is 2-0 in Lynchburg, huh??

[Southsider]

Actually, they are 3-0. Lehigh won there in 2004. I wonder how the game would have played out had Lehigh converted the 4th & 2 feet midway through the 2nd qtr?? Had they scored they would have been up 3 scores. I hate those East/West runs. When you need a few feet, go straight ahead!!

[RichH2]

Hard to figure Dave out this yr. Part of O issue may simply be different skill levels this yr. Why Spadola mot tatgeted more puzzling. Is it Mike going off 1st read? Not trusting Ryan to get ball? Liberty DBs were a very hands on group, altho not called, why not trust Ryan to beat single coverage. Admittedly db on him very good, but so is Ryan.
Dave has to figure out this offensive malaise. Otherwise D will be in the ER and I'll be in cardiac.care.

[ngineer]

Actually, they are 3-0. Lehigh won there in 2004. I wonder how the game would have played out had Lehigh converted the 4th & 2 feet midway through the 2nd qtr?? Had they scored they would have been up 3 scores. I hate those East/West runs. When you need a few feet, go straight ahead!!

BINGO. We did the same thing last week against Princeton. Plus on the 4th and less than a yard in the third, we went off tackle but Sherman didn't follow his blocking. Very frustrating at that poitn.

[RichH2]

Is Dave getting too cute at times. Sherman did fail to follow blockers, but still why not run your 230 lb Qb? At some point must pick an OL and stick with it. It would be nice to have Lippincott at full strength but we dont. Lack of consistent run blocking putting too much on Mike. He pulled it out this time but we need run attack.

[Sly Fox]

I'd still love to hear your reactions to our gameday experience, LFN.

[ngineer]

See my post at #141, supra. For my taste, most schools need to tone down the thumping sound systems. Too much "canned" excitement. I'd rather hear the chants and the bands. Of course, I'm more of a 'traditionalist' and "old school". Very nice venue, however. I rank it up there with Princeton's in terms of site view from the seats, convenience of the rest rooms and concessions.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I'd still love to hear your reactions to our gameday experience, LFN.

It's going to be part of my "Sunday Word", which will probably be cleaned up and done sometime tomorrow. But here's a preview - it was a really interesting and fun experience.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Going to Liberty and watching the spectacle that was a Flames game reminded me of the... rodeo.

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2012/09/sundays-word-rodeo.html

[RichH2]

Great article. Hope we continue the series..

[Sly Fox]

Thanks for the terrific write-up. I'd encourage all those out out there who wonder why Liberty is talking FBS and why we believe that we have something special brewing in the heart of Virginia to check out LFN's story.

Giddyup!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

This is pretty cool


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nae8Y4PhPo&feature=player_embedded

[RichH2]

Its one of those clips you just dont get tired of watching.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Its one of those clips you just dont get tired of watching.

Not as good as the '09 Lafayette pre-game but still cool as heck.

[Pard4Life]

Its one of those clips you just dont get tired of watching.

And it's one of those clips that I'll never watch.

[RichH2]

Well, maybe your Pards will come up with a similar video. Would love to see a video of their dressing room after another loss to us.

[DFW HOYA]

"You really have to hand it to the folks at Liberty: they have managed to create a great gameday experience for their kids. Nothing feels small-time about the effort put into these facilities, the scoreboard, the press box."

As opposed, say, to the game in Washington on Oct. 13. Keith Groller can only wince at the press facilities awaiting him there...

[ngineer]

Going to Liberty and watching the spectacle that was a Flames game reminded me of the... rodeo.

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2012/09/sundays-word-rodeo.html

Good write up. Being there myself, you caught the atmosphere. Intense and everyone driven in one direction. Almost a little freakiy with everyone dressing the same and doing the same practiced motions in response to the cues from the PA announcer. While Lehigh has faced similar and larger crowds in the past, i.e. Delaware and NDSU, this seemed the most hostile as an opponent. Of course the big crowds with UD and Lafayette have substantial Lehigh fans as opposed to at Liberty where I am still hoarse from participating with my 300 odd Brown & White compatriots against the 17,000+ sea of red....But to borrow a biblical metaphor...we parted it!!