Ivy League Week 1 2012

[bonarae]

Finally, it's time! xhurrayx xthumbsupx

I lost track of my last season's prediction record... so I'm starting another clean slate.

Predictions:
San Diego at Harvard - Crimson too strong for the Toreros.
Marist at Columbia - Won big against overrated Bryant, but lost a close one to Bucknell. Will Columbia come up short?
Princeton at Lehigh - Tigers' woes continue... against Spadola.
Brown at Holy Cross - Harvard's streak of opening against Holy Cross since 2000 ends this year but will resume in 2014. Is Brown ready for opening against the Crusaders?
Cornell at Fordham - Fordham lost a close one against Villanova... but can Cornell's offense tear up the Rams' defense like Villanova did against Fordham in the second half?
Penn at Lafayette - Lafayette escaped against W&M... but Penn can be dangerous too.
Butler at Dartmouth - hmm... Butler lost a close game against Western Illinois before opening their home slate with D-III Franklin. But well, Dartmouth lost a lot to graduation...

[bulldog10jw]

Finally, it's time! xhurrayx xthumbsupx

I lost track of my last season's prediction record... so I'm starting another clean slate.

Predictions:
San Diego at Harvard - Crimson too strong for the Toreros.
Marist at Columbia - Won big against overrated Bryant, but lost a close one to Bucknell. Will Columbia come up short?
Princeton at Lehigh - Tigers' woes continue... against Spadola.
Brown at Holy Cross - Harvard's streak of opening against Holy Cross since 2000 ends this year but will resume in 2014. Is Brown ready for opening against the Crusaders?
Cornell at Fordham - Fordham lost a close one against Villanova... but can Cornell's offense tear up the Rams' defense like Villanova did against Fordham in the second half?
Penn at Lafayette - Lafayette escaped against W&M... but Penn can be dangerous too.
Butler at Dartmouth - hmm... Butler lost a close game against Western Illinois before opening their home slate with D-III Franklin. But well, Dartmouth lost a lot to graduation...

Did they cancel the Yale at Georgetown game?

[bulldog10jw]

San Diego at Harvard
Marist at Columbia
Princeton at Lehigh
Brown at Holy Cross
Cornell at Fordham
Penn at Lafayette
Butler at Dartmouth

And, in case they do play

Yale at Gtown

[bonarae]

Did they cancel the Yale at Georgetown game?

Sorry. I base my schedule off the Ivy League website and Yale-G'Town was not listed earlier.

Here's my prediction for this game now: Yale at Georgetown - when will Georgetown ever play FBS or higher FCS opponents in one or two of their first few games of each season in order to become more competitive in the PL and increase their reputation in football? Given the Hoyas' previous game performances this season, they are quite dangerous. But Yale is a young team, though.

[Ivytalk]

Harvard
Marist
Lehigh
Penn
Cornell
Holy Cross
Dartmouth
Georgetown

[Pard4Life]

Ah the Ivy League... our more attractive, blonde second cousin that wants nothing to do with our relation...

Interesting to see all the Ivy guys side with Penn and all the PL guys pick Lafayette. For the record, we pretty much controlled, though not dominated, WM the entire game.

[bulldog10jw]

Ah the Ivy League... our more attractive, blonde second cousin that wants nothing to do with our relation...

Interesting to see all the Ivy guys side with Penn and all the PL guys pick Lafayette. For the record, we pretty much controlled, though not dominated, WM the entire game.

For what it's worth, I hope you win. When it comes to Penn, I have no league loyalty.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Penn vs Lafayette is more than just another OOC game for both teams. Lafayette has played Penn more often than most other PL teams and Penn has played Lafayette more often than most other Ivy teams (this will be the 89th game between the two). It might not seem like it to others but it's quite a rivalry and the two schools/teams certainly treat it that way. The game will be in Easton this year and I would expect quite a nice crowd given the Pards' win over W&M (Penn plays W&M on October 6, FYI). Forecast right now is fair, dry and about 65 degrees for the 6 PM kickoff - in other words perfect for this time of year. Penn always is tough but I'm pretty confident of a Lafayette victory in this one. Penn/Lafayette games typically are close and low scoring (last year was an exception).

Of course, the rest of the Ivy views Penn as a state university out in the midwest somewhere. Talk about no respect . . . .

[Ivytalk]

Penn vs Lafayette is more than just another OOC game for both teams. Lafayette has played Penn more often than most other PL teams and Penn has played Lafayette more often than most other Ivy teams (this will be the 89th game between the two). It might not seem like it to others but it's quite a rivalry and the two schools/teams certainly treat it that way. The game will be in Easton this year and I would expect quite a nice crowd given the Pards' win over W&M (Penn plays W&M on October 6, FYI). Forecast right now is fair, dry and about

65 degrees for the 6 PM kickoff - in other words perfect for this time of year. Penn always is tough but I'm pretty confident of a Lafayette victory in this one. Penn/Lafayette games typically are close and low scoring (last year was an exception).

Of course, the rest of the Ivy views Penn as a state university out in the midwest somewhere. Talk about no respect . . . .

That's because Penn IS a state university out in the midwest somewhere. Ben Franklin State.:pxblehxxblehxxsmugxxsmugxxtroublex

[UAalum72]

So there are TWO state universities in the Ivy? They're not nearly as exclusive as I thought.

[DJOM]

Ivies are more exclusive than you can imagine. I don't say that in a snobbish way, although it probably comes across like it...The admissions standards are so high, it is scary.

Now for the facts. 2012 will be the year of the Tiger. Please don't confuse the issue with an abundance of facts....Princeton is due and will rise to the occassion.

Princeton upsets Lehigh. Everything comes together for the upset of the week.
San Diego--Toreros bring a strong game. Harvard better be prepared for a well coached California offense. Pray for rain and cool temperatures.
Marist beats Columbia. Marist is team on the rise.
Yale wins at G-town
Brown wins
Fordham in big win.
Penn wins this one
Dartmouth takes this one.

[carney2]

The opener for the Ivys. A second or third game for all of their opponents. (Big) advantage to the opponents.

San Diego at Harvard - Cheating scandal or not this should not be close.
Marist at Columbia - I can't believe I'm picking Marist over anybody. Oh, it's Columbia. It's nobody.
Princeton at Lehigh - Tigger is the worst team in old Ivy and one of the worst in all of FCS. Over early and over often.
Brown at Holy Cross* - Holy Cross is not convincing. Brown in its first game. Coin toss.
Cornell at Fordham* - The Rams are moving up. Cornell is better than usual, but this is day one.
Penn at Lafayette* - Contrary to Bonarae's comments, the Leopards did not "escape" against W&M. They were in control all the way and the game was not as close as the score. 5 out of the last 6 primarily because of "already played a game."
Butler at Dartmouth - See Marist comments above and substitute Butler.
Yale at Georgetown* - The Hoyas are in the second and last year of their Golden Age.

*The (only) games I'd pay to see.

[GaelsFootball]

San Diego at Harvard
Marist at Columbia .....i really really hope i'm wrong on this one!
Princeton at Lehigh
Brown at Holy Cross
Cornell at Fordham
Penn at Lafayette
Butler at Dartmouth
Yale at Gtown

[bonarae]

Penn at Lafayette* - Contrary to Bonarae's comments, the Leopards did not "escape" against W&M. They were in control all the way and the game was not as close as the score. 5 out of the last 6 primarily because of "already played a game."

Sorry. When I predicted that game above (in the original post), I overlooked the quarter-by-quarter scoring of the Lafayette-W&M game. W&M, like Bryant, might be overrated (because the Tribe lost to Maryland because they choked in 4Q).

I'm revising my predictions, then:

San Diego at Harvard
Marist at Columbia
Princeton at Lehigh
Brown at Holy Cross
Yale at Georgetown
Cornell at Fordham - not sure, still a toss-up at this time. Fordham beat a bad Lock Haven team and controlled a quite bad Villanova team.
Penn at Lafayette
Butler at Dartmouth

[dystopiamembrane]

1. Harvard
2. Brown
3. Yale
4. Cornell
5. Penn
6. Dartmouth
7. Columbia
8. Princeton

Brown 18-17 Holy Cross
Marist 24-21 Columbia
Cornell 33-24 Fordham
Butler 14-24 Dartmouth
San Diego 13-35 Harvard
Penn 21-28 Lafayette
Princeton 7-35 Lehigh
Yale 23-27 Georgetown

[bulldog10jw]

Yale starting a freshman at QB. Could be a rough 1st half of the year unless this kid is a superstar

http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/09/10/sports/doc504e218313aee246679426.txt


How about Yale’s version of quarterback controversy: Eric Williams or John Whitelaw?

After being tight-lipped throughout preseason camp, Bulldogs coach Tony Reno announced his decision on Monday going with Williams. The 6-foot-3, 192-pound freshman will be under center when the Bulldogs open their season on the road against Georgetown (2-0) on Saturday.

[Ivytalk]

Yale starting a freshman at QB. Could be a rough 1st half of the year unless this kid is a superstar

[url]http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/09/10/sports/doc504e218313aee246679426.txt[/url


How about Yale’s version of quarterback controversy: Eric Williams or John Whitelaw?



After being tight-lipped throughout preseason camp, Bulldogs coach Tony Reno announced his decision on Monday going with Williams. The 6-foot-3, 192-pound freshman will be under center when the Bulldogs open their season on the road against Georgetown (2-0) on Saturday.
Didn't Joe Walland start as a freshman?

[Go...gate]

Harvard 30, San Diego 7

Marist 20, Columbia 12

Lehigh 27, Princeton 10

Holy Cross 23, Brown 17

Fordham 33, Cornell 14

Lafayette 14, Pennsylvania 13

Butler 20, Dartmouth 16

Georgetown 22, Yale 20

[bulldog10jw]

Didn't Joe Walland start as a freshman?

If I remember correctly, Walland wasn't even recruited as a QB. He was in Cozza's last recruiting class as a wide receiver/defensive back. Jack Siedlecki moved him to QB.

[Pard4Life]

Penn complaining about their schedule: http://www.thedp.com/m/article/2012/09/alter-does-penn-football-have-too-tough-a-schedule

I wish there were some Penn guys on here... in fact I've never seen someone from Columbia, Dartmouth, or Cornell either.

[bulldog10jw]

Penn complaining about their schedule: http://www.thedp.com/m/article/2012/09/alter-does-penn-football-have-too-tough-a-schedule

I wish there were some Penn guys on here... in fact I've never seen someone from Columbia, Dartmouth, or Cornell either.

Columbia, no one that I can think of, but there was a guy from Cornell a couple of years ago. And that was when they were terrible. To bad he's not around now that they are supposed to be decent. I don't remember his profile name.

And Green26 is a member from Dartmouth. In fact he played on the great undefeated Dartmouth team in 1970. He is also a Montana fan and you should see him here once in a while.

[Ivytalk]

Columbia, no one that I can think of, but there was a guy from Cornell a couple of years ago. And that was when they were terrible. To bad he's not around now that they are supposed to be decent. I don't remember his profile name.

And Green26 is a member from Dartmouth. In fact he played on the great undefeated Dartmouth team in 1970. He is also a Montana fan and you should see him here once in a while.

otto4pres was the only Cornell poster that I recall. Don't know what happened to him. And the Brown posters have tailed off as well.

[bulldog10jw]

http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2012/09/12/sports/doc505013bfc8242171110696.txt

Bulldogs lose two more offensive weapons before season starts

Yale is down three of its top offensive weapons, and it hasn't even played its first game yet.

Junior wide receiver Deon Randall and junior tight end Keith Coty will both miss the season with injuries. That comes in addition to the loss of Chris Smith, a two-time All-Ivy League selection. It was announced late last month that Smith would miss the season for personal reasons.


Losing both Smith and Randall really hurts since they were also their best kickoff and punt returners

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The Georgetown-Yale game might end up 6-3.

[bulldog10jw]

The Georgetown-Yale game might end up 6-3.

Maybe it will be like the 7-0 Yale-Lehigh games a few years ago. A fake punt wins it.

[CFBfan]

Maybe it will be like the 7-0 Yale-Lehigh games a few years ago. A fake punt wins it.

you won't have those local hometown ref's serving up some home cooking and killing the hoyas this year like they did 2 years ago and even last year bulldog.....

[bulldog10jw]

you won't have those local hometown ref's serving up some home cooking and killing the hoyas this year like they did 2 years ago and even last year bulldog.....

Yale has been playing football for 140 years. We have a network of crooked refs all across the country. We have already made the phone calls. xnodx

[bulldog10jw]

It keeps getting worse for Yale. They really have no backup QB now.

http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2012/09/12/sports/doc50512ed0ce864583097177.txt

Days after being beat out for Yale’s starting quarterback job, junior John Whitelaw has left the team, coach Tony Reno said Wednesday.

“He made a decision to pursue other interests,” said Reno, who met with Whitelaw Tuesday afternoon. “I liked him as a player and a person. He made a decision to leave the program and explore other things.”

[Bogus Megapardus]

Sportsbook:

Harvard (-21) vs San Diego

Columbia (-1) vs Marist

Lehigh (-28) vs Princeton

Georgetown (-5) vs Yale

Brown (-1) at Holy Cross

Colgate (-11½) vs Sacred Heart

Cornell (-7) at Fordham

Delaware (-17) vs Bucknell

Lafayette (-7) vs Penn

Dartmouth (-13) vs Butler

[CFBfan]

Yale has been playing football for 140 years. We have a network of crooked refs all across the country. We have already made the phone calls. xnodx

Well played bulldog!

[Go...gate]

We have more Ivy posters than this - seems like fewer predictions than normal.

[bulldog10jw]

We're all too depressed to post because we will all have losing seasons. All of us.

What depresses me is starting two weeks later than everyone else and only having 10 games to look forward to.

And ending a sentence with a preposition.

[bonarae]

We have more Ivy posters than this - seems like fewer predictions than normal.

I don't know if they have all tailed off... xchinscratchx Only Ivytalk, bulldog10jw, the 2 Princeton posters (DJOM and Babar) and I seem to remain regulars here anymore. xsmhx

[bulldog10jw]

otto4pres was the only Cornell poster that I recall. Don't know what happened to him. And the Brown posters have tailed off as well.

Yalefootballfan has disappeared, too. He was here every fall for a few years, but I don't remember him posting at all last year. He was actually a Quinnipiac grad and a big hockey fan as well.

[RichH2]

May be IL becoming more insular. IL board certainly active. Lack of interest in the rest of FCS. Glad you guys are here.

[bonarae]

May be IL becoming more insular. IL board certainly active. Lack of interest in the rest of FCS. Glad you guys are here.

True. xsmhx I actually joined AGS because Ralphie encouraged the posters on the IL board to join a contest here back then. Since then, because of AGS, I began to appreciate the higher-tier teams more and more... and I got sparked up by the major upsets (e.g. Appalachian State over Michigan in 2007). But the other IL board regulars don't seem to appreciate higher tier FCS teams like me. xsmhx

[bulldog10jw]

May be IL becoming more insular. IL board certainly active. Lack of interest in the rest of FCS. Glad you guys are here.

I think that would change, for many on the IL board, if we participated in the playoffs.

[bonarae]

I think that would change, for many on the IL board, if we participated in the playoffs.

As we all wish to. xsmhx

[Ivytalk]

We're all too depressed to post because we will all have losing seasons. All of us.

Speak for yourself, Babar! xsmiley_wix

We may lose a "cheater" or two, but that won't make us go 4-6.xsmugx

[Pards Rule]

For what it's worth, I hope you win. When it comes to Penn, I have no league loyalty.

Thats why I like you JW! I may do a return to New Haven since I was there for the 2009 game. Pards 28, Penn 23

[bonarae]

No way. xoopsx xsmhx

Harvard over San Diego 28-13 (We almost lost this game! xoopsx)
Columbia nips Marist 10-9 (Was I wrong?)
Lehigh over Princeton 17-14 (xchinscratchx)
Fordham over Cornell 34-27 (I was right after I changed the prediction.)
Yale over Georgetown 24-21 (Uh oh...)
Brown over Holy Cross 24-21 (Is Holy Cross that weak after all?)

In progress:
Lafayette 21 - Penn 7 HALFTIME (Considering that I expected this one too...)
Dartmouth 14 - Butler 0 2:55 1Q (I was wrong AGAIN. xoopsx But hopefully Dartmouth expands its lead...)

[bonarae]

All final now.

Lafayette 28 - Penn 21
Dartmouth 35 - Butler 7

Final thought...
Ivy > PFL remains as it is? Or has the gauge in the scholarship conferences changed?

[Pards Rule]

Thats why I like you JW! I may do a return to New Haven since I was there for the 2009 game. Pards 28, Penn 23

WINNER WINNER - chicken parm dinner!!