SDSU gets $18 Million dollar gift

[89rabbit]

http://www.argusleader.com/article/20120803/UPDATES/120803003/Sanford-gifts-10M-SDSU-new-campus-facilities?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Home

Sanford gifts $10M to SDSU for new campus facilities

Written by
Terry Vandrovec

South Dakota State on Friday took a significant step toward constructing a long-proposed indoor practice facility and human performance center, announcing two gifts totaling $18 million for the project.

Sanford Health has agreed to provide $10 million of that. The transaction is being termed a "leadership investment," the bottom line being that Sanford will serve as the exclusive sports medicine provider for SDSU, a role previously held by Orthopedic Institute, and have naming rights on the new building.

The other $8 million is coming from anonymous donors. Jackrabbits athletic director Justin Sell characterized that group as consisting of several individuals set on supporting student-athletes at SDSU, an NCAA Division I member and the largest school in the state.

"This deal is a true game changer," Sell said. . . . (read more)



Big Day in Brookings!


Go State! :D

[TheRevSFA]

too bad the money can't go to fixing up CAS.

Still pretty cool. Congrats

[Professor Chaos]

Sanford Health has been very generous in the communities that they are in when it comes to donations to college athletics. They donated $10M to NDSU for the new indoor track facility and renovated basketball arena as well. I know several of their employees and they think that Sanford is too generous. Good for SDSU, as an outsider I'd like to see a new football facility before an indoor practice facility but I'm sure those inside the athletic department know what takes precedence.

[89rabbit]

Step 1 - Build Indoor practice and human performance center.

Step 2 - Build New 22,500 seat Stadium.

http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/ZoomStatic/UserData/L2222/L2222VUM7ENJ/L2BGL6V22QBB.jpg

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Step 1 - Build Indoor practice and human performance center.

Step 2 - Build New 22,500 seat Stadium.



Why? So it can be half full for anyone BUT USD and NDSU? A stadium what would be larger than the entire population of Brookings?

[MplsBison]

Isn't the human performance facility already built? I thought that was the football facility in the endzone, probably the nicest football facility in the MVFC.

Would that building be physically connected to the indoor practice facility? Can't quite tell from the angle of the rendering. But ... damn. SDSU will have better facilities than NDSU if everything in the rendering gets done. That's something that NDSU has always prided itself on, having the nicest football facilities in the MVFC.

[MplsBison]

Why? So it can be half full for anyone BUT USD and NDSU? A stadium what would be larger than the entire population of Brookings?

They'll fill it.

Facilities = recruits. Recruits = wins. Wins = fans.

[89rabbit]

http://www.gojacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=15000&ATCLID=205564186

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/facility/renderings/SDSU_FieldHouseLights600dpi.jpg

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[MplsBison]

http://www.gojacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=15000&ATCLID=205564186

Damn.

Now both UND and SDSU are going to have indoor track facilities with 300m tracks and full football practice fields in the middle and full football facilities attached.


NDSU: new indoor track-only facility (200m, no practice field) and the football facilities are piecemeal in the Fargodome.

Second tier.

[Bison06]

Step 1 - Build Indoor practice and human performance center.

Step 2 - Build New 22,500 seat Stadium.

http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/ZoomStatic/UserData/L2222/L2222VUM7ENJ/L2BGL6V22QBB.jpg

Will you help me get oriented with this rendering? Where is the current tailgating area? From my perspective it would be at the top left of the screen is that right?

[Gringer1]

Step 1 - Build Indoor practice and human performance center.

Step 2 - Build New 22,500 seat Stadium.

I hope for SDSU's sake that this doesn't turn out to be one of those

http://hbd.org/discus/messages/40327/43401.jpg

Sort of plans.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

They'll fill it.

Facilities = recruits. Recruits = wins. Wins = fans.

You consider yourself an expert on NDSU because you went there. Well I went to SDSU for a time and I can tell you that 22k is a pipe dream in that town.

[89rabbit]

Why? So it can be half full for anyone BUT USD and NDSU? A stadium what would be larger than the entire population of Brookings?

Slightly larger as Brookings population is 22,056 as of the 2010 Census. The 2011 US Census est. have us at 22,228.

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kf7tgg1uo9ude_&met_y=population&idim=place:4607580&dl=en&hl=en&q=brookings+south+dakota+population

And about a month ago Bel Brands USA broke ground on a new cheese plant in Brookings that will bring 400 jobs with it so new homes are being built like crazy.

Also Sioux Falls is just 45 min. south of Brookings and is bigger then Fargo/Moorehead/West Fargo. The same way that South Dakota is larger then North Dakota.

Finally we avg. more fans then our current stadium has permanent seats so no worries we will be ok. xthumbsupx



I can tell our big news bothers you, but as my grandma used to say to her friends "tend to your own knitting" . You worry about NDSU and we will worry about SDSU.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Slightly larger as Brookings population is 22,056 as of the 2010 Census. The 2011 US Census est. have us at 22,228.

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kf7tgg1uo9ude_&met_y=population&idim=place:4607580&dl=en&hl=en&q=brookings+south+dakota+population

And about a month ago Bel Brands USA broke ground on a new cheese plant in Brookings that will bring 400 jobs with it so new homes are being built like crazy.

Also Sioux Falls is just 45 min. south of Brookings and is bigger then the Fargo/Moorehead/West Fargo. The same way that South Dakota is larger then North Dakota.

Finally we avg. more fans then our current stadium has perminent seats so no worries we will be ok. xthumbsupx

Yeah, I was dating a girl from Beresford, her family seemed to think that North Dakota was a lot smaller even though I went to high school with more people than were in her entire town.

As for attendance. I'm trying to figure out how a max of 14k for NDSU last year is going to translate into 22k for any other team but USD.

[darell1976]

Step 1 - Build Indoor practice and human performance center.

Step 2 - Build New 22,500 seat Stadium.

http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/ZoomStatic/UserData/L2222/L2222VUM7ENJ/L2BGL6V22QBB.jpg

Looks pretty sweet!!!! Good luck on the fundraising, as for the capacity of 22,500 that would be a good number if SDSU were to move up to the FBS. Better to be prepared than be in a stadium where you can't raise the max capacity (Alerus 13,500).

[89rabbit]

More

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/?SPSID=64578&SPID=7147&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=15000

[89rabbit]

Will you help me get oriented with this rendering? Where is the current tailgating area? From my perspective it would be at the top left of the screen is that right?

Next time you are in Brookings it will be further north (behind the new building's and it's parking lot).

[darell1976]

More

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/?SPSID=64578&SPID=7147&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=15000

Nice video!

[Kemo]

Isn't the human performance facility already built? I thought that was the football facility in the endzone, probably the nicest football facility in the MVFC.

Would that building be physically connected to the indoor practice facility? Can't quite tell from the angle of the rendering. But ... damn. SDSU will have better facilities than NDSU if everything in the rendering gets done. That's something that NDSU has always prided itself on, having the nicest football facilities in the MVFC.
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[344Johnson]

Sanford Health is great for everyone in the area since it's status as non-profit forces them to either do free health things for people(I believe they do plenty of that) or to donate it. Donating to a University gives them a ton of good PR. Hopefully they become a gift that keeps on giving to the schools in the area.

[darell1976]

Sanford Health is great for everyone in the area since it's status as non-profit forces them to either do free health things for people(I believe they do plenty of that) or to donate it. Donating to a University gives them a ton of good PR. Hopefully they become a gift that keeps on giving to the schools in the area.

Sanford Health is everywhere most of small town ND has SH clinics including East Grand Forks. I am surprised the Mayo Clinic doesn't try to rival them when they became affiliated with Altru. Its still tough not to say Merritcare when talking about hospitals in Fargo.

[MplsBison]

Slightly larger as Brookings population is 22,056 as of the 2010 Census. The 2011 US Census est. have us at 22,228.

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=kf7tgg1uo9ude_&met_y=population&idim=place:4607580&dl=en&hl=en&q=brookings+south+dakota+population

And about a month ago Bel Brands USA broke ground on a new cheese plant in Brookings that will bring 400 jobs with it so new homes are being built like crazy.

Also Sioux Falls is just 45 min. south of Brookings and is bigger then Fargo/Moorehead/West Fargo. The same way that South Dakota is larger then North Dakota.

Finally we avg. more fans then our current stadium has permanent seats so no worries we will be ok. xthumbsupx



I can tell our big news bothers you, but as my grandma used to say to her friends "tend to your own knitting" . You worry about NDSU and we will worry about SDSU.

Cass is 150k, Clay is 60k.

Minnehaha is 170k, Lincoln is 45k.

Pretty close.

[MplsBison]

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Thanks I understand now. Dykhouse is likely the best football facility in the MVFC, although no one has nicer coach's offices than what Bohl and Co have in the Fargodome.

The HPC would be the tied as the nicest dedicated indoor facility in the MVFC with Youngstown's WATTS facility. Basically the same thing.

UND is planning to build a facility that will basically be the Dykhouse + the WATTS facility combined into one.


It's too bad NDSU didn't have the money to build the new indoor track facility the same as the WATTS.

[BisonBacker]

You consider yourself an expert on NDSU because you went there. Well I went to SDSU for a time and I can tell you that 22k is a pipe dream in that town.
Better to build it with growth in mind as opposed to building it to small ala the Fargodome xcoffeex

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Better to build it with growth in mind as opposed to building it to small ala the Fargodome xcoffeex

The Fargodome works just fine. 20k is completely fine. Will sell out most seasons, will never look empty even in down season and will always a big revenue generator for both the city and the University.

[HailSzczur]

I love the renderings, can't wait to see pictures if and when it happens.

One question though from reading this thread, what the hell is "human performance"? I'm getting one or two ideas in my head, none of which I can can be correct ;)

[89rabbit]

I love the renderings, can't wait to see pictures if and when it happens.

One question though from reading this thread, what the hell is "human performance"? I'm getting one or two ideas in my head, none of which I can can be correct ;)

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/facility

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/facility/renderings/500dpiHyrdrotherapyjpg_0.jpg

Human Performance Facility:
Medical clinic space
Medical Equipment
Hydrotherapy/Rehabilitation
Training Room
Weight Room Expansion
Academic Advising

[BisonBacker]

The Fargodome works just fine. 20k is completely fine. Will sell out most seasons, will never look empty even in down season and will always a big revenue generator for both the city and the University.

http://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ostrich-man-head-in-sand.gif

[MplsBison]

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/facility

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/facility/renderings/500dpiHyrdrotherapyjpg_0.jpg

Human Performance Facility:
Medical clinic space
Medical Equipment
Hydrotherapy/Rehabilitation
Training Room
Weight Room Expansion
Academic Advising

Does Dykhouse already have all that stuff? I guess not..

[89rabbit]

Does Dykhouse already have all that stuff? I guess not..

The quick answer is yes, but it will be bigger and nicer. Human Performance will be built onto the Dykhouse Center walls will be taken out (it was designed that way) and spaces will be expanded.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

http://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ostrich-man-head-in-sand.gif

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[MplsBison]

The quick answer is yes, but it will be bigger and nicer. Human Performance will be built onto the Dykhouse Center walls will be taken out (it was designed that way) and spaces will be expanded.

Gotcha.

That rendering of the hydro room -- that's Big 10 caliber. U of MN probably has something similar to that, but perhaps not as nice. NDSU I'm sure has nothing like that and I doubt anything like that is planned for the BSA upgrade.

[darell1976]

Better to build it with growth in mind as opposed to building it to small ala the Fargodome xcoffeex

What was capacity at Dakotah Field? I am sure when they built the dome they wanted a little bigger than that but not too outragious...remember NDSU was still in DII and would NDSU really have 20,000 playing Mankato, Duluth, and Moorhead State?

[NoDak 4 Ever]

What was capacity at Dakotah Field? I am sure when they built the dome they wanted a little bigger than that but not too outragious...remember NDSU was still in DII and would NDSU really have 20,000 playing Mankato, Duluth, and Moorhead State?

13K

[TheBisonator]

Gotcha.

That rendering of the hydro room -- that's Big 10 caliber. U of MN probably has something similar to that, but perhaps not as nice. NDSU I'm sure has nothing like that and I doubt anything like that is planned for the BSA upgrade.

NDSU's FB training facilities in the Fargodome aren't that large, but they have all that same stuff you see in the SDSU renderings.

[TheBisonator]

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If you think the 19,000-seat Fargodome will still be fine for us in 10-15 years, you're smoking something that's not legal.

[Catbooster]

Looks like it'll be a nice facility. Good luck on the fund-raising.

[ValleyChamp]

If you think the 19,000-seat Fargodome will still be fine for us in 10-15 years, you're smoking something that's not legal.

Oh, really? What factual evidence do you have to prove that NDSU will need something considerably larger than that in 10-15 years? His opinion is every bit as valid as yours is.

[JSUBison]

Oh, really? What factual evidence do you have to prove that NDSU will need something considerably larger than that in 10-15 years? His opinion is every bit as valid as yours is.

http://www.gobison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=2400&ATCLID=205563864

[Catbooster]

There's another thread around here somewhere about having already sold out the Fargodome for this season and I think you've sold out for a few years. Granted, you just won the championship and the demand may be having a temporary spike, but unless you're pessimistic and think the bison will start a string of losing years, I'd think it's time to start some planning. As long as it takes to plan, raise funds, build, etc. it will be years before something gets finished even if the process has started.

Edit to add: sorry - didn't mean to continue the thread derail. This thread started out being about SDSU and their good news.

[darell1976]

There's another thread around here somewhere about having already sold out the Fargodome for this season and I think you've sold out for a few years. Granted, you just won the championship and the demand may be having a temporary spike, but unless you're pessimistic and think the bison will start a string of losing years, I'd think it's time to start some planning. As long as it takes to plan, raise funds, build, etc. it will be years before something gets finished even if the process has started.

Edit to add: sorry - didn't mean to continue the thread derail. This thread started out being about SDSU and their good news.

Problem is the dome is owned by the city of Fargo. NDSU football is its number one client. So unless NDSU spends all available money (which isn't much since they don't have enough for the new BSA) I don't think the city wants a huge building sitting on University and 19th Ave with a For Rent sign on it unless they raise tax money to build another stadium.

[MplsBison]

NDSU's FB training facilities in the Fargodome aren't that large, but they have all that same stuff you see in the SDSU renderings.

They have separate built in, permanent construction, temperature controlled hot and cold whirlpools and a separate underwater treadmill/rehabilitation pool?

I don't think so.

[MplsBison]

There's another thread around here somewhere about having already sold out the Fargodome for this season and I think you've sold out for a few years. Granted, you just won the championship and the demand may be having a temporary spike, but unless you're pessimistic and think the bison will start a string of losing years, I'd think it's time to start some planning. As long as it takes to plan, raise funds, build, etc. it will be years before something gets finished even if the process has started.

Edit to add: sorry - didn't mean to continue the thread derail. This thread started out being about SDSU and their good news.

Definitely time to plan. Facilities simply become outdated with 30 years of use. Happened to the Metrodome.

The Fargodome should be replaced with a new multi-use facility for Fargo sometime in the mid 2020's and perhaps given the average attendance of the marquee tenant, they could consider boosting maximum seating capacity. Although I also hope they put a healthy focus on premium seating: club seats with a private club level, loge boxes and plenty of suites - all with premium views of the field from the home side and perks like private convenience parking (or valet), etc.

Like the new Vikings stadium, it'll have to be a multi-use, year round stadium in order to get government funding (whether that be city, county, state, whatever) and that means a fixed roof in all likelihood.

[MplsBison]

Problem is the dome is owned by the city of Fargo. NDSU football is its number one client. So unless NDSU spends all available money (which isn't much since they don't have enough for the new BSA) I don't think the city wants a huge building sitting on University and 19th Ave with a For Rent sign on it unless they raise tax money to build another stadium.

After 30 years of use - it'll be time for a new half cent (or whatever) tax to fund a new stadium. The Fargodome has been a major success, by any metric proposed during its planning and fundraising timeframes. The city has more than recouped their money and the economic benefit to the city and the university truly can't be measured.

One can only hope that the libertarian/anti-tax crows will bog off just enough to let it get through.

[ValleyChamp]

http://www.gobison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=2400&ATCLID=205563864

Give me a break.xrolleyesx NDSU is coming off of a National Championship, of course the demand is sky high right now. How many sellouts has NDSU had the last 10 years? Selling as many tix as NDSU has this year is great and something to be proud of, but selling out one season (immediately after a national title) does not mean there is an inherent need or demand for a new football stadium.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Give me a break.xrolleyesx NDSU is coming off of a National Championship, of course the demand is sky high right now. How many sellouts has NDSU had the last 10 years? Selling as many tix as NDSU has this year is great and something to be proud of, but selling out one season (immediately after a national title) does not mean there is an inherent need or demand for a new football stadium.

This.

I'm trying to figure out how NDSU is so much more magical than any other school in FCS. UM, MSU, ASU, GSU, UNI all have historically successful programs and all have stadiums that hover around 20-25k. We seem to be the only ones who think we should instantly go out and build a 30k stadium.

It is exactly like my point for SDSU. 22k there is going to make as much sense as 30k in Fargo.

[JSUBison]

Give me a break.xrolleyesx NDSU is coming off of a National Championship, of course the demand is sky high right now. How many sellouts has NDSU had the last 10 years? Selling as many tix as NDSU has this year is great and something to be proud of, but selling out one season (immediately after a national title) does not mean there is an inherent need or demand for a new football stadium.

I never said there was an immediate need. You asked for an indication why NDSU may need to think about expanding their stadium. I provided one. I am fully aware of this season being a little different, but you can't deny that if NDSU strings together the momentum and sellout seasons, talk of a new stadium will happen.

[MplsBison]

This.

I'm trying to figure out how NDSU is so much more magical than any other school in FCS. UM, MSU, ASU, GSU, UNI all have historically successful programs and all have stadiums that hover around 20-25k. We seem to be the only ones who think we should instantly go out and build a 30k stadium.

It is exactly like my point for SDSU. 22k there is going to make as much sense as 30k in Fargo.

Just for the sake of argument. And yes, I know, this is very unlikely to happen.


BUT -- how did Boise decide to build a 30k stadium that they now fill out?

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Just for the sake of argument. And yes, I know, this is very unlikely to happen.


BUT -- how did Boise decide to build a 30k stadium that they now fill out?

Well I would say Boise enjoys an advantage of double the population of Fargo proper and triple the metro population. That certainly helps.

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[MplsBison]

So if FM had a metro population of around 500k - but was still been averaging 16-18k attendance. THEN you would agree with building the next facility (say by mid 2020's) at 30k seats?

It's a fair point.

[darell1976]

I never said there was an immediate need. You asked for an indication why NDSU may need to think about expanding their stadium. I provided one. I am fully aware of this season being a little different, but you can't deny that if NDSU strings together the momentum and sellout seasons, talk of a new stadium will happen.

If NDSU keeps having successful season after successful season and keep selling out the demand for a new, and bigger stadium will grow. Especially if talks of the FBS gets to become a reality and moveup is possible. I give NDSU 10 years and the sales tax for a new stadium will be on my ballot to vote on.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Get RDO-Microsoft-Sanford to chip in and it might happen.....

[darell1976]

Get RDO-Microsoft-Sanford to chip in and it might happen.....

Since they chipped in on the new BSA, I wouldn't be suprised if they chip in on a new dome....The Sanford Dome.

[clenz]

The proposed stadium at SDSU is very close to what I want to see at UNI eventually...


Sadly it won't start to happen for a decade or two at UNI

[WCFIELDS]

CONGRATS ON THE NEW STUFF YOU ARE GETTING. WE HAD A GREAT TRIP THERE WHEN MCNEESE STATE WON IN WHAT 4 OVERTIMES IN FOOTBALL? AWESOME GAME AND ENDING. I'LL NEVER FORGET YOUR QB AND ANOTHER PLAYER CAME TO OUR DRESSING ROOM AFTER THE GAME TO CONGRATULATE SOME OF OUR PLAYERS AND SAY HELLO. HOBO DAYS WAS ALSO FUN IN TOWN. HOWEVER, IT IS ALSO THE ONLY FOOTBALL AWAY GAME I HAVE BEEN TO THAT HAD PORTY POTTIES FOR THE VISITING FANS TO USE BEHIND THE STANDS. GEAUXCOWBOYS.COM

[NoDak 4 Ever]

CONGRATS ON THE NEW STUFF YOU ARE GETTING. WE HAD A GREAT TRIP THERE WHEN MCNEESE STATE WON IN WHAT 4 OVERTIMES IN FOOTBALL? AWESOME GAME AND ENDING. I'LL NEVER FORGET YOUR QB AND ANOTHER PLAYER CAME TO OUR DRESSING ROOM AFTER THE GAME TO CONGRATULATE SOME OF OUR PLAYERS AND SAY HELLO. HOBO DAYS WAS ALSO FUN IN TOWN. HOWEVER, IT IS ALSO THE ONLY FOOTBALL AWAY GAME I HAVE BEEN TO THAT HAD PORTY POTTIES FOR THE VISITING FANS TO USE BEHIND THE STANDS. GEAUXCOWBOYS.COM

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[MSUBear42]

Way to go, SDSU!

[TheBisonator]

This.

I'm trying to figure out how NDSU is so much more magical than any other school in FCS. UM, MSU, ASU, GSU, UNI all have historically successful programs and all have stadiums that hover around 20-25k. We seem to be the only ones who think we should instantly go out and build a 30k stadium.

It is exactly like my point for SDSU. 22k there is going to make as much sense as 30k in Fargo.

You just sort of answered your own question when you said "hover around 20-25K". The issue isn't so much that NDSU needs to build a new 30,000 seat facility, it's that we're kind of forced to have building a new facility be our best option because we're at a freaking capacity WALL right now with 19,000. We can't go any higher than that. If there was an already built-in way for the FD to expand to 25K, everyone would be talking about that option right now. But the truth of the matter is that once Montana State expands again to above 20K, NDSU will have one of the smallest stadiums among the "elite" FCS programs.

I had an idea earlier of knocking out a roof slope on the west side and building an upper deck to increase seating to 23K, but even that may not be economically feasible. THAT'S why people talk about "new facility". Because there's not a damn thing else you can do with our place to make it bigger.

Getting back to the topic of SDSU, I hope they build their indoor facility soon, so they can get to working on their sorry-*** stadium. They should've put new field turf on it at least three years ago.

[MplsBison]

1000000% yes, the MVFC should *FORCE* SDSU to upgrade to fieldturf. They have terrible, terrible grass when it gets cold and it's dangerous and not conducive to the highest quality of play - which the MVFC is known for.

[JackrabbitDen]

It's been mentioned before, but the reason that SDSU would build a 22,500 seat stadium is because the stadium would need to stand for 50 years.

In 1960, Brookings population was 10,558 and in 2011 the population was 22,228.

[JackrabbitDen]

1000000% yes, the MVFC should *FORCE* SDSU to upgrade to fieldturf. They have terrible, terrible grass when it gets cold and it's dangerous and not conducive to the highest quality of play - which the MVFC is known for.

If CAS's natural grass was so dangerous, wouldn't you see SDSU players dropping like flies throughout the season? SDSU has played on that surface for 50 years and there have been no more and no less injuries than any other team's home field.

If you want to talk about dangerous and hard as a rock, than you should talk about playing on NDSU's turf the past 10 years.

[89rabbit]

Hey Bison fans, you want to argue about the need for a new NDSU stadium here is an idea start a thread rather then hijack this one. xrolleyesx


Let me help us get back on track.

From KELO TV:

http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/sdsu-launches-fundraising-for-indoor-practice-facility/?id=135362

New story from the Argus Leader:

http://www.argusleader.com/article/20120805/SPORTS0202/308050017/Jacks-hope-seize-moment?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Sports|p&nclick_check=1

[darell1976]

If CAS's natural grass was so dangerous, wouldn't you see SDSU players dropping like flies throughout the season? SDSU has played on that surface for 50 years and there have been no more and no less injuries than any other team's home field.

If you want to talk about dangerous and hard as a rock, than you should talk about playing on NDSU's turf the past 10 years.

Has there ever been talk about SDSU getting a dome? They are the only Dakota team that plays outdoors.

[89rabbit]

Nope we like playing outdoors. Playing in the elements is part of the game. xnodx :D

[darell1976]

Nope we like playing outdoors. Playing in the elements is part of the game. xnodx :D

Plus it does give you an advantage for adding seats very easily where you are limited if you had a dome (like we are). I have never been to CAS (been through Brookings but never to a game) it sounds like a great place for football...20,000 fans, grass field, and fresh air. Next time UND plays at SDSU (hopefully in the near future) I will have to go.

[BisonBacker]

Oh, really? What factual evidence do you have to prove that NDSU will need something considerably larger than that in 10-15 years? His opinion is every bit as valid as yours is.

At the rate NDSU has grown and the interest in the program has followed it's only logical that it will continue to rise. The FM area continues to grow, NDSU has grown and all one has to do is look at History. You are either moving forward or going backward there is no status quo. I'd rather see NDSU continue to grow at a steady pace that allows our administration to plan and put NDSU in a position to take advantage of the growth rather than be behind the 8ball when that time comes and it is coming.

[BisonBacker]

This.

I'm trying to figure out how NDSU is so much more magical than any other school in FCS. UM, MSU, ASU, GSU, UNI all have historically successful programs and all have stadiums that hover around 20-25k. We seem to be the only ones who think we should instantly go out and build a 30k stadium.

It is exactly like my point for SDSU. 22k there is going to make as much sense as 30k in Fargo.

Are you really that dense? Brookings has a limited (Very Limited) population base. Fargo Moorhead can support the growth. Don't get me wrong either I'm happy for SDSU's growth and hope they get this built and they continue to grow.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Are you really that dense? Brookings has a limited (Very Limited) population base. Fargo Moorhead can support the growth. Don't get me wrong either I'm happy for SDSU's growth and hope they get this built and they continue to grow.

When was the last time you were actually ON campus? The actual University infrastructure has been behind the student growth for years. Uncle Joe wanted the numbers up so badly that there was housing, classroom, and parking shortages. Hell, even getting food in the Union was a pain in the *** as recently as a few years ago.

The school is barely able to handle 12k much less 15k. The focus now is on stabilization than growth.

[89rabbit]

Are you really that dense? Brookings has a limited (Very Limited) population base. Fargo Moorhead can support the growth. Don't get me wrong either I'm happy for SDSU's growth and hope they get this built and they continue to grow.

SDSU Jackrabbit Thread! Bad Bison go start your own thread. xnonox


By the way I don't know how it is in Fargo but down here SDSU is not Brookings' University. It is South Dakota's and we have fans come from all over the State, Region, and even further for games.

My In-Laws live in Kansas City, they have season tickets and they come up for every home game.

We are South Dakota State University, not the University of Brookings. We just happen to be located in one of the best college towns in the country. xnodx

[89rabbit]

Plus it does give you an advantage for adding seats very easily where you are limited if you had a dome (like we are). I have never been to CAS (been through Brookings but never to a game) it sounds like a great place for football...20,000 fans, grass field, and fresh air. Next time UND plays at SDSU (hopefully in the near future) I will have to go.

It is true, the design for the new stadium is expandable to 40,000.

[Professor Chaos]

It's been mentioned before, but the reason that SDSU would build a 22,500 seat stadium is because the stadium would need to stand for 50 years.

In 1960, Brookings population was 10,558 and in 2011 the population was 22,228.

It is true, the design for the new stadium is expandable to 40,000.
Ok, I understand that there are plenty of out of towners that come to SDSU football games but 22,500 right away and 40,000 in the future seems a bit preposterous. I think it's good to have that option because you never know what's going to happen but SDSU averaged 12,000 fans last year and your best average was 13,265 in 2009 if my research is correct. Those numbers are a long way from 22,500. It's good to dream big but when you're talking about fronting the extra dough to build seats for 170% of your highest ever average attendance I think SDSU would be better off building a smaller and more cost effective facility sooner. xtwocentsx

[NoDak 4 Ever]

SDSU Jackrabbit Thread! Bad Bison go start your own thread. xnonox


By the way I don't know how it is in Fargo but down here SDSU is not Brookings' University. It is South Dakota's and we have fans come from all over the State, Region, and even further for games.

My In-Laws live in Kansas City, they have season tickets and they come up for every home game.

We are South Dakota State University, not the University of Brookings. We just happen to be located in one of the best college towns in the country. xnodx

I'm really glad your in-laws could make it so they could get to 12k. How far will they have to come to make 22k? Tulsa?

As I said before, I attended SDSU for a year, I know what the campus and the town are like, that is quite a stretch to say the least.

[TheRevSFA]

I'm really glad your in-laws could make it so they could get to 12k. How far will they have to come to make 22k? Tulsa?

As I said before, I attended SDSU for a year, I know what the campus and the town are like, that is quite a stretch to say the least.

How long ago did you attend SDSU? Times change and campuses change. SFA 20 years ago is not what SFA is now...

Just saying..things might be looking up for them.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

How long ago did you attend SDSU? Times change and campuses change. SFA 20 years ago is not what SFA is now...

Just saying..things might be looking up for them.

Maybe 8 years ago. Not a lot has changed. There is still only 11k on campus, this new stadium will be larger than the rest of the MVFC. It just doesn't make sense.

[MplsBison]

If CAS's natural grass was so dangerous, wouldn't you see SDSU players dropping like flies throughout the season? SDSU has played on that surface for 50 years and there have been no more and no less injuries than any other team's home field.

If you want to talk about dangerous and hard as a rock, than you should talk about playing on NDSU's turf the past 10 years.

And now NDSU has changed to fieldturf - just as SDSU should be forced to do.

Grass is fine if it's early Sept and very light usage. Otherwise, it might not be dangerous but it is not conducive to high quality, division I football!! You want grass, go play DIII in the WIAC. Oh wait, you already lost to a team from that conference!

[MplsBison]

Ok, I understand that there are plenty of out of towners that come to SDSU football games but 22,500 right away and 40,000 in the future seems a bit preposterous. I think it's good to have that option because you never know what's going to happen but SDSU averaged 12,000 fans last year and your best average was 13,265 in 2009 if my research is correct. Those numbers are a long way from 22,500. It's good to dream big but when you're talking about fronting the extra dough to build seats for 170% of your highest ever average attendance I think SDSU would be better off building a smaller and more cost effective facility sooner. xtwocentsx

If you build it...

[MplsBison]

Hey Bison fans, you want to argue about the need for a new NDSU stadium here is an idea start a thread rather then hijack this one. xrolleyesx


Let me help us get back on track.

From KELO TV:

http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/sdsu-launches-fundraising-for-indoor-practice-facility/?id=135362

New story from the Argus Leader:

http://www.argusleader.com/article/20120805/SPORTS0202/308050017/Jacks-hope-seize-moment?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Sports|p&nclick_check=1

Running out of time!

Gotta get shovels in the ground by early October or they'll have to wait until next year and quotes will go higher.


Seems very little risk that SDSU won't be able to pay for this project...why is the SD BoHE (or whatever you call it in your state) forcing you to have all the money upfront before starting construction?

[clenz]

I'm really glad your in-laws could make it so they could get to 12k. How far will they have to come to make 22k? Tulsa?

As I said before, I attended SDSU for a year, I know what the campus and the town are like, that is quite a stretch to say the least.

I have MANY classmates/kids from my HS that went to/go to SDSU and for SDSU to need a 22.5K stadium it would take SDSU and NDSU playing a national semi-final game with both teams sitting at 13-0 ranked #1 and #2 in the nation. I looked at going to SDSU, was recruited by SDSU out of HS back in the day (I graduated HS in 2006, so not that long ago). I can tell you SDSU is a suitcase campus for any kid that is from Iowa, Minnesota, and most Sioux Falls kids. Brookings isn't a good college town....just because it's small and has lots of beer for college kids to drink doesn't make it a great college town. It feels like my hometown of 800 people, just bigger....that's not a good thing.


Brookings won't double in size again. Sioux Falls, Brandon, Dell RapidsTea, Lennox, Hartford, Garretson are all going to double in size before Brookings. Brookings is too far away from Sioux Falls to see much more impact from the growth of Sioux Falls being 60 miles away.


Zero need to a stadium that seats 10k over your average attendance, and 9k over your best average attendance ever unless you are planning on going FBS is the next couple years.

SDSU's attendance since going D1.

2011: 12k
2010: 10k
2009: 13k
2008: 9k
2007: 8k


SDSU's best season ended at 13k.

For being the university that SD claims as it's own and gets people from all over the country every weekend you're sill a ways off of 22K.

It would be full the first year....but how quickly would it fall off?


UNI doesn't need a 22K seat stadium. 18K and expandable is all UNI needs...NDSU needs a 21-22K stadium that is expandable....YSU has their stadium that they lie about their attendance of at about 19K...After that it falls off hard.

[MplsBison]

http://www.gojacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=15000&ATCLID=205564186

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/facility/renderings/SDSU_FieldHouseLights600dpi.jpg



By the way...did anyone else notice in this picture....that apparantly the football team is holding a scrimmage with some other team....while a track event is taking place? In fact, it appears that someone is performing a hammer throw (which is NOT an indoor event) right into the football play....

xlolx

[BisonBacker]

By the way I don't know how it is in Fargo but down here SDSU is not Brookings' University. It is South Dakota's and we have fans come from all over the State, Region, and even further for games.

My In-Laws live in Kansas City, they have season tickets and they come up for every home game.

We are South Dakota State University, not the University of Brookings. We just happen to be located in one of the best college towns in the country. xnodx

You missed my point. I'm saying it's better for you guys to build it with the future in mind. NDSU should have done the same when we built the Fargo Dome.

[BisonBacker]

I have MANY classmates/kids from my HS that went to/go to SDSU and for SDSU to need a 22.5K stadium it would take SDSU and NDSU playing a national semi-final game with both teams sitting at 13-0 ranked #1 and #2 in the nation. I looked at going to SDSU, was recruited by SDSU out of HS back in the day (I graduated HS in 2006, so not that long ago). I can tell you SDSU is a suitcase campus for any kid that is from Iowa, Minnesota, and most Sioux Falls kids. Brookings isn't a good college town....just because it's small and has lots of beer for college kids to drink doesn't make it a great college town. It feels like my hometown of 800 people, just bigger....that's not a good thing.


Brookings won't double in size again. Sioux Falls, Brandon, Dell RapidsTea, Lennox, Hartford, Garretson are all going to double in size before Brookings. Brookings is too far away from Sioux Falls to see much more impact from the growth of Sioux Falls being 60 miles away.


Zero need to a stadium that seats 10k over your average attendance, and 9k over your best average attendance ever unless you are planning on going FBS is the next couple years.

SDSU's attendance since going D1.

2011: 12k
2010: 10k
2009: 13k
2008: 9k
2007: 8k


SDSU's best season ended at 13k.

For being the university that SD claims as it's own and gets people from all over the country every weekend you're sill a ways off of 22K.

It would be full the first year....but how quickly would it fall off?


UNI doesn't need a 22K seat stadium. 18K and expandable is all UNI needs...NDSU needs a 21-22K stadium that is expandable....YSU has their stadium that they lie about their attendance of at about 19K...After that it falls off hard.

The problem with both North Dakota and South Dakota are that we have 4 state universities. NDSU, UND, SDSU and USD. For two states with a limited population you end up diluting the fan base. Unlike Nebraska where you have a larger population to start with and basically one large State school in Lincoln. Yeah there are smaller schools but Big Red runs the show down there. Allegiances are split in North and South Dakota. If both states had one large state University like Nebraska I could see 40k stadiums easily.

[clenz]

The problem with both North Dakota and South Dakota are that we have 4 state universities. NDSU, UND, SDSU and USD. For two states with a limited population you end up diluting the fan base. Unlike Nebraska where you have a larger population to start with and basically one large State school in Lincoln. Yeah there are smaller schools but Big Red runs the show down there. Allegiances are split in North and South Dakota. If both states had one large state University like Nebraska I could see 40k stadiums easily.
Agreed....For SDSU to plan for 40K is laughable to me....but more power to them for dreaming big I guess.


Hell, Iowa has 3 million people and 4 D1 universities - with 2 in BCS conferences. Iowa averages over 70K per game, Iowa State roughly 50K per game....For UNI to go "We need a 40K seat stadium" would be dumb as hell. Although an 18-20K outdoor stadium would be great.

[BearsCountry]

It is true, the design for the new stadium is expandable to 40,000.

That is smart thinking because you never know what the future might bring. Also I think 22k is about the right size for SDSU. It gives the Bunnies a top notch FCS stadium and is about the same size as what Illinois St is doing to Hancock and what we have on the drawing board for Plaster.

[TheRevSFA]

I'm glad to see Mpls thinks that Notre Dame, Texas A&M, Virginia Tech do not play quality ball and should be DIII since they play on grass.

[clenz]

I'm glad to see Mpls thinks that Notre Dame, Texas A&M, Virginia Tech do not play quality ball and should be DIII since they play on grass.

I'm pretty sure most of the SEC and Pac 12 do a well


I can't think if a single SEC school off the top of my head with turf..maybe ole miss

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[TheRevSFA]

I'm pretty sure most of the SEC and Pac 12 do a well


I can't think if a single SEC school off the top of my head with turf..maybe ole miss

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Vandy plays on field turf starting this year..but do they really count?

[MplsBison]

I'm glad to see Mpls thinks that Notre Dame, Texas A&M, Virginia Tech do not play quality ball and should be DIII since they play on grass.

Apples to coconuts, in regards to grass growing climate in the later season.

But you knew that. Just trolling.

[BearsCountry]

I can't think if a single SEC school off the top of my head with turf..maybe ole miss

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Arkansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Vanderbilt

[frozennorth]

Ok, I understand that there are plenty of out of towners that come to SDSU football games but 22,500 right away and 40,000 in the future seems a bit preposterous. I think it's good to have that option because you never know what's going to happen but SDSU averaged 12,000 fans last year and your best average was 13,265 in 2009 if my research is correct. Those numbers are a long way from 22,500. It's good to dream big but when you're talking about fronting the extra dough to build seats for 170% of your highest ever average attendance I think SDSU would be better off building a smaller and more cost effective facility sooner. xtwocentsx

I think sdsu attendance would jump pretty fast if they could string a couple good runs together over a few years. Plenty of alumni withing a 2 hours drive, and lots of opponents within their fans driving distance as well.

[89rabbit]

Ok, I understand that there are plenty of out of towners that come to SDSU football games but 22,500 right away and 40,000 in the future seems a bit preposterous. I think it's good to have that option because you never know what's going to happen but SDSU averaged 12,000 fans last year and your best average was 13,265 in 2009 if my research is correct. Those numbers are a long way from 22,500. It's good to dream big but when you're talking about fronting the extra dough to build seats for 170% of your highest ever average attendance I think SDSU would be better off building a smaller and more cost effective facility sooner. xtwocentsx


There are 13,000 permanent seats in Coughlin Alumni Stadium. How many more tickets do you think we could sell if fans knew they would have a place to sit instead of stand, or sit in temp bleachers that might not have the best sight lines?

Why in the world would you build a new stadium incrementally your construction cost per seat would be through the roof. I can't imagine building a stadium that seats 15,000 and then a couple years later build it to 18,000, and then a years later adding more seats. That would be silly.

[89rabbit]

I'm really glad your in-laws could make it so they could get to 12k. How far will they have to come to make 22k? Tulsa?

As I said before, I attended SDSU for a year, I know what the campus and the town are like, that is quite a stretch to say the least.

My point is we have support from all over the state so focusing on the population of Brookings is foolhardy at best. Again Sioux Falls just 45 min. south is bigger then Fargo. South Dakota is bigger then North Dakota.

Manhattan, KS only has 52,281 people living in town, much smaller then Fargo yet they have a stadium that seats 50,000 and they are expanding it. How can it be you ask? Simple the Stadium is built for Kansas State University, not the University of Manhattan, they draw fans from all over. Get it? xconfusedx

[89rabbit]

Maybe 8 years ago. Not a lot has changed. There is still only 11k on campus, this new stadium will be larger than the rest of the MVFC. It just doesn't make sense.

Really? 7 new residence halls, new Electrical Engineering Hall, new Seed Technologies Laboratory, new Avera Health Science Center, Alfred Dairy Science Building Exp. and remolding, Berg Agricultural Hall expansion and renovations, New Fishback Early Childhood Development Laboratory, New J Lohr Building, 2 expansions of the University Student Union, Dykhouse Student Athlete Center, Erv Heather Baseball Stadium, just to name a few things that have changed in the last 8 years. Maybe you aren't as in touch with SDSU as you think. xsmhx


P.S. 8 years ago there were 10,561 students. Last fall 12,725 students both numbers are per SD Board of Regents reports.

[BearsCountry]

There are 13,000 permanent seats in Coughlin Alumni Stadium. How many more tickets do you think we could sell if fans knew they would have a place to sit instead of stand, or sit in temp bleachers that might not have the best sight lines?

Why in the world would you build a new stadium incrementally your construction cost per seat would be through the roof. I can't imagine building a stadium that seats 15,000 and then a couple years later build it to 18,000, and then a years later adding more seats. That would be silly.

Yep this sounds like us when we built our new basketball arena. Our attendance hasn't jumped alot from the old arena, but for the big games its been great. Like I said I think 22k is the right size, especially when the other MVC schools are planning to go to that size as well.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

My point is we have support from all over the state so focusing on the population of Brookings is foolhardy at best. Again Sioux Falls just 45 min. south is bigger then Fargo. South Dakota is bigger then North Dakota.

Manhattan, KS only has 52,281 people living in town, much smaller then Fargo yet they have a stadium that seats 50,000 and they are expanding it. How can it be you ask? Simple the Stadium is built for Kansas State University, not the University of Manhattan, they draw fans from all over. Get it? xconfusedx

Manhattan is about 2 hrs away from 2 million people. That's a big difference from Brookings and Sioux Falls

K State is also twice the size of SDSU. There are much different dynamics at play.

I get it, you love the **** out of Brookings. I couldn't stand being an hour away from a Target or having to buy shoes at the 200 sq ft JC Penney store, I had to go back to Fargo.


Really? 7 new residence halls, new Electrical Engineering Hall, new Seed Technologies Laboratory, new Avera Health Science Center, Alfred Diary Science Building Exp. and remolding, Berg Agricultural Hall expansion and renovations, New Fishback Early Childhood Development Laboratory, New J Lohr Building, 2 expansions of the University Student Union, Dykhouse Student Athlete Center, Erv Heather Baseball Stadium, just to name a few things that have changed in the last 8 years. Maybe you aren't as in touch with SDSU as you think. xsmhx

That's a lot of buildings and still only about 1,000 more students than were there before. Are the buildings going to sit in the seats?

[mmiller_34]

Manhattan is about 2 hrs away from 2 million people. That's a big difference from Brookings and Sioux Falls

K State is also twice the size of SDSU. There are much different dynamics at play.

I get it, you love the **** out of Brookings. I couldn't stand being an hour away from a Target or having to buy shoes at the 200 sq ft JC Penney store, I had to go back to Fargo.



That's a lot of buildings and still only about 1,000 more students than were there before. Are the buildings going to sit in the seats?

a 50,000 seat stadium at KSU is much different than a 22,000 seat stadium at SDSU too. Use your noggin'. If your telling me that there isn't even a chance of SDSU being able to consistently get crowds of 19,000 plus (EVEN IN THE FUTURE) then SDSU should have never gone D-1. This whole process is a vision for the future. If you are so narrow minded that you cannot even see the possibility of that ever happening then I feel bad for you.

I don't understand what is so hard to understand about SDSU building and having a vision for the future. I'm sure the stadium will be built in phases... the south endzone will probably not be part of the initial project. So calm down, when SDSU builds their new stadium it will probably have a capacity of 16,000 at first. SDSU has averaged over capacity crowds for about 5 years now, its time to build.

Good grief.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Step 1 - Build Indoor practice and human performance center.

Step 2 - Build New 22,500 seat Stadium.




I don't understand what is so hard to understand about SDSU building and having a vision for the future. I'm sure the stadium will be built in phases... the south endzone will probably not be part of the initial project. So calm down, when SDSU builds their new stadium it will probably have a capacity of 16,000 at first.

Good grief.

This is the premise under which this entire thread has existed. I have only said 22.5k is unrealistic, which is true.

[mmiller_34]

Did you even read what I said about building for the future?

[89rabbit]

To accommodate football seasons it will be built in phases. Like season ends and East grandstands are torn down and rebuilt before next season begins. Play season, season ends do the same on west side. Play season, season ends do south endzone. Then you have a new stadium. 3 seasons beginning to end. That is the way I hear it.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

At the rate NDSU has grown and the interest in the program has followed it's only logical that it will continue to rise. The FM area continues to grow, NDSU has grown and all one has to do is look at History. You are either moving forward or going backward there is no status quo. I'd rather see NDSU continue to grow at a steady pace that allows our administration to plan and put NDSU in a position to take advantage of the growth rather than be behind the 8ball when that time comes and it is coming.

+1

Good post Backer.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

After reading thru the posts added today, it makes sense for SDSU to plan for the future in regards to their stadium.

IMO, a stadium in the 19-21K range would be great for SDSU.

[TheBisonator]

For seasons that they don't host USD, I can see SDSU averaging something like 14-15K per game right out of the gate after they completely rebuild their stadium to 22.5K. (I think SDSU will gain a couple/few thousand more "every game" fans just due to the fact their stadium will not be a POS. Same thing with NDSU Basketball and the BSA. Once they rebuild it, average attendance will likely be around 4,500-5,000. A lot of fans stay away because of poor facilities) I think maybe a bump up to 17-18K for years they host USD.

This would leave a lot of room to grow, but getting 4-5K more per game for USD years will take time. That's why they're thinking about decades-long timelines when designing this thing.

I see the USD game selling out immediately once it's rebuilt, but it will take time to find more games for potential sellouts. I don't think Hobo Days will sell out the thing immediately. Maybe 16-18,000.

I don't see SDSU EVER being able to expand the thing to 40,000. I think maybe a small addition to 25K sometime decades from now will be as far as they go.

By that time, NDSU will probably have a 35,000-seat outdoor partially-covered stadium. F-M's metro will be something like 400K and Brookings will have like 40-45K. The XDSU's will be in whatever version of the MWC exists at that time.

[JackrabbitDen]

Brookings won't double in size again. Sioux Falls, Brandon, Dell RapidsTea, Lennox, Hartford, Garretson are all going to double in size before Brookings. Brookings is too far away from Sioux Falls to see much more impact from the growth of Sioux Falls being 60 miles away.

Zero need to a stadium that seats 10k over your average attendance, and 9k over your best average attendance ever unless you are planning on going FBS is the next couple years.

SDSU's attendance since going D1.

2011: 12k
2010: 10k
2009: 13k
2008: 9k
2007: 8k


SDSU's best season ended at 13k.

For being the university that SD claims as it's own and gets people from all over the country every weekend you're sill a ways off of 22K.

It would be full the first year....but how quickly would it fall off?


UNI doesn't need a 22K seat stadium. 18K and expandable is all UNI needs...NDSU needs a 21-22K stadium that is expandable....YSU has their stadium that they lie about their attendance of at about 19K...After that it falls off hard.

Some thoughts:

(1)If all the towns you mention double in size than SDSU will surely need a 20,000+ stadium. And by nature, if those towns do double (SF is one of the fastest growing small cities in the US), than SDSU's student population is going to increase dramatically. And when their student population doubles, the town typically grows because some students end up sticking around after they graduate.

(2)Judging by your attendance math, in 5 years SDSU had %50 attendance growth. What will it be 30 years from now? Failure to plan is planning to fail.

(3)Speaking of lack-luster college towns. I went to Cedar Falls 2 years ago when SDSU played UNI. After the game we wanted go out and enjoy the bar scene and everywhere we went, the bars were packed with black and yellow clad Hawkeye fans watching an Iowa game. The color purple was nowhere to be seen even in UNI's home town after a home football game.

SDSU doesn't have that issue. Even though South Dakota's population is smaller than Iowa, SDSU is the most popular college in the state and doesn't have to compete with 2 FBS programs for fanfare.

[Twentysix]

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/facility

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/facility/renderings/500dpiHyrdrotherapyjpg_0.jpg

Human Performance Facility:
Medical clinic space
Medical Equipment
Hydrotherapy/Rehabilitation
Training Room
Weight Room Expansion
Academic Advising

Color that red and that looks alot like what Nebraska has. I was there during the orange bowl, they wouldn't let me take a dip.

http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics26/640/VY/VYPGHCFTAVNKQIC.20060825213244.JPG

[mmiller_34]

By that time, NDSU will probably have a 35,000-seat outdoor partially-covered stadium. F-M's metro will be something like 400K and Brookings will have like 40-45K. The XDSU's will be in whatever version of the MWC exists at that time.

Sounds cool

[344Johnson]

You missed my point. I'm saying it's better for you guys to build it with the future in mind. NDSU should have done the same when we built the Fargo Dome.

You could say NDSU built the dome for the future. It took 20 years to get the consistent sell-out.

[MplsBison]

Color that red and that looks alot like what Nebraska has. I was there during the orange bowl, they wouldn't let me take a dip.


I know the Gophers have something similar to that as well.

Like I said, that's Big 10 caliber!

[BisonBacker]

You could say NDSU built the dome for the future. It took 20 years to get the consistent sell-out.
Yes but they have no option to expand now which was short sighted thinking. there was talk back then of building it bigger but that was nixed.

[MplsBison]

Yes but they have no option to expand now which was short sighted thinking. there was talk back then of building it bigger but that was nixed.

I don't see anything wrong with building a dome for a 30 year lifespan, knowing that it will need to be demolished at the end of the 30 years.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Yes but they have no option to expand now which was short sighted thinking. there was talk back then of building it bigger but that was nixed.


I don't see anything wrong with building a dome for a 30 year lifespan, knowing that it will need to be demolished at the end of the 30 years.

Then, as I have said in about 1,000 threads before this, they should have gotten out their checkbook and done it instead of piggybacking on the city. They could easily have said "nah, that's a good idea but we're going to do something on our own" but they didn't.

[MplsBison]

Then, as I have said in about 1,000 threads before this, they should have gotten out their checkbook and done it instead of piggybacking on the city. They could easily have said "nah, that's a good idea but we're going to do something on our own" but they didn't.

Hogwash.

Fargo has benefited immensely from the Fargodome and will recoup their entire cost back via the tax, if they haven't done so already

The Fargodome either would've been much smaller or simply not possible if NDSU had to build it themselves.


And I don't see any reason why the Fargodome can't be torn down or partially torn down and the next large city event center built right on top of it or part of it - ala the Metrodome.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Hogwash.

Fargo has benefited immensely from the Fargodome and will recoup their entire cost back via the tax, if they haven't done so already

The Fargodome either would've been much smaller or simply not possible if NDSU had to build it themselves.


And I don't see any reason why the Fargodome can't be torn down or partially torn down and the next large city event center built right on top of it or part of it - ala the Metrodome.

Because, unlike Minneapolis, Fargo let's their citizens actually vote on whether or not to spend millions of dollars on a building and there is just too damn much good sense to do something like that.

They let the idiots float on down I-94

[344Johnson]

Hogwash.

Fargo has benefited immensely from the Fargodome and will recoup their entire cost back via the tax, if they haven't done so already

The Fargodome either would've been much smaller or simply not possible if NDSU had to build it themselves.


And I don't see any reason why the Fargodome can't be torn down or partially torn down and the next large city event center built right on top of it or part of it - ala the Metrodome.

And where would NDSU play in the meantime?

[No_Skill]

And where would NDSU play in the meantime?

We could rent out the tin shed down river and help them actually turn a profit that year.

[MplsBison]

Because, unlike Minneapolis, Fargo let's their citizens actually vote on whether or not to spend millions of dollars on a building and there is just too damn much good sense to do something like that.

They let the idiots float on down I-94

Well, luckily, you're in Columbus. So that's one less Libertarian anti-tax nut job who won't get to vote on it.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Well, luckily, you're in Columbus. So that's one less Libertarian anti-tax nut job who won't get to vote on it.

Holy ****, you have me pegged. I'm clearly a raging anti-tax nut.

I'm just saying nobody in their right mind is going to tear down a $50 million dollar building just to give NDSU more seats.

[MplsBison]

Holy ****, you have me pegged. I'm clearly a raging anti-tax nut.

I'm just saying nobody in their right mind is going to tear down a $50 million dollar building just to give NDSU more seats.

And I'm just saying that's what the anti-tax nut jobs will say in their opposition campaign, just like they do in every city that's trying to build something new.

A fixed roof venue has 365 event days per year. NDSU takes up what 9, max, per year?

[89rabbit]

Leaving Fargo again and back to Brookings and SDSU's $18 million dollar gifts. xthumbsupx

http://www.sdsucollegian.com/2012/08/03/sdsu-raises-18-million-for-indoor-facilty/

[344Johnson]

Leaving Fargo again and back to Brookings and SDSU's $18 million dollar gifts. xthumbsupx

http://www.sdsucollegian.com/2012/08/03/sdsu-raises-18-million-for-indoor-facilty/

Fellow ndsu fans are currently in a hostile takeover of the thread. back to sdsu. excellent for a program that I cheer for 10 weeks out of 11 every year.

[darell1976]

Leaving Fargo again and back to Brookings and SDSU's $18 million dollar gifts. xthumbsupx

http://www.sdsucollegian.com/2012/08/03/sdsu-raises-18-million-for-indoor-facilty/

C'mon every Dakota thread has to be hijacked by NDSU fans...I think its one of the rules of this board.:D

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

C'mon every Dakota thread has to be hijacked by NDSU fans...I think its one of the rules of this board.:D


Blah, blah, blah

...or, UND fans or should I say fan, continually "stoke the fire" with NDSU fans by post crap like you do.

[MplsBison]

Leaving Fargo again and back to Brookings and SDSU's $18 million dollar gifts. xthumbsupx

http://www.sdsucollegian.com/2012/08/03/sdsu-raises-18-million-for-indoor-facilty/

Nothing new there. But your attempt to get the attention back on SDSU is admirable.

All I can say is, I hope you're able to get shovels in the ground this fall!


New facilities of this caliber only raises the profile and the competitive bar of the league.

[mmiller_34]

All I can say is, I hope you're able to get shovels in the ground this fall!

That would be awesome. If SDSU can come up with the money before October and get construction approved by the BOR then it should happen.

[SDFS]

Leaving Fargo again and back to Brookings and SDSU's $18 million dollar gifts. xthumbsupx

http://www.sdsucollegian.com/2012/08/03/sdsu-raises-18-million-for-indoor-facilty/

Hope to hear about shovels in the ground next spring - good to see SDSU investing in facilities.

[89rabbit]

Nothing new there. But your attempt to get the attention back on SDSU is admirable.

All I can say is, I hope you're able to get shovels in the ground this fall!


New facilities of this caliber only raises the profile and the competitive bar of the league.

Next spring is the soonest dirt can be moved. It has to get South Dakota Board of Regents approval in the fall and then Legislative approval after the first of the new year. The South Dakota Legislature meets from Jan. - March each year. If they pass a bill and the Governor signs it we start construction with the spring thaw.

[89rabbit]

Even though it is being built will 100% donated money the Legislature must pass a bill to authorize the construction.

[darell1976]

Even though it is being built will 100% donated money the Legislature must pass a bill to authorize the construction.

So if the legislature votes it down even though the money is there they couldn't build it.

[89rabbit]

So if the legislature votes it down even though the money is there they couldn't build it.

That is correct. It won't happen, but we do need to go through the process. That is why we need to raise the rest of the money in the next two months otherwise you have to wait a whole year before you can start construction.

[89rabbit]

This ought to help. Go to page three of the Athletic Facilites Master Plan and you can see an overhead shot of what this will all look like.

http://www.gojacks.com/downloads2/390498.pdf?ATCLID=205012208&SPSID=64578&SPID=7147&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=15000

It is a little dated, the baseball stadium - Phase 1 - is already done and they are putting new seating in the bottom bowl of Frost Arena right now, but the the visuals are nice.

[darell1976]

This ought to help. Go to page three of the 25 Year Master Plan and you can see an overhead shot of what this will all look like.

http://www.gojacks.com/downloads2/390498.pdf?ATCLID=205012208&SPSID=64578&SPID=7147&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=15000

It looks good. I like how your campus is set up where all the venues are pretty close to each other, unlike UND where the football stadium is off campus along with the baseball field, only the basketball, hockey, and soccer field is close to each other and on campus. At SDSU you could park your car and walk from one venue to another.

[MplsBison]

That is correct. It won't happen, but we do need to go through the process. That is why we need to raise the rest of the money in the next two months otherwise you have to wait a whole year before you can start construction.

Ah ok. Sorry I read incorrectly. I thought it said they had to get the money raised by Oct in order to start construction this fall.

[MplsBison]

It looks good. I like how your campus is set up where all the venues are pretty close to each other, unlike UND where the football stadium is off campus along with the baseball field, only the basketball, hockey, and soccer field is close to each other and on campus. At SDSU you could park your car and walk from one venue to another.

How often do you park your car and watch football, basketball and baseball games in the same day?

[89rabbit]

Ah ok. Sorry I read incorrectly. I thought it said they had to get the money raised by Oct in order to start construction this fall.

I freely admit it is slightly odd that you have to have a bill passed by the legislature to spend donated money on a building. Because our system is a bit odd, I am not surprised when anyone has trouble understanding it.

[darell1976]

How often do you park your car and watch football, basketball and baseball games in the same day?

When UND had football, basketball, and hockey in the same day you could go from Memorial Stadium then across the street to the Hyslop Sports Center (basketball) then back across to the old Ralph Engelstad Arena, all within a couple blocks of each other. Now it would be from the Alerus to the new REA and thats a 3 mile walk (google map). In late fall early winter it can be very cold. But for students at SDSU everything is in the same area of campus not spread across the city of Brookings like in Grand Forks.

[Catbooster]

I freely admit it is slightly odd that you have to have a bill passed by the legislature to spend donated money on a building. Because our system is a bit odd, I am not surprised when anyone has trouble understanding it.

But the state (university) will be responsible to maintain and run it, which can amount to a significant cost. So it's not surprising that they have that process.

[89rabbit]

But the state (university) will be responsible to maintain and run it, which can amount to a significant cost. So it's not surprising that they have that process.

The State of South Dakota doesn't maintain any of the building on campus. The Higher Education Facilities Fund is used for that purpose and those dollars come from student tuition. Twenty cents out of each tuition dollar goes into that fund.

[Dakotaguy74]

What's the update on the Human Performance Facility? Is construction starting this spring? Is the entire facility being built or only part?

[Laker]

When UND had football, basketball, and hockey in the same day you could go from Memorial Stadium then across the street to the Hyslop Sports Center (basketball) then back across to the old Ralph Engelstad Arena, all within a couple blocks of each other. Now it would be from the Alerus to the new REA and thats a 3 mile walk (google map). In late fall early winter it can be very cold. But for students at SDSU everything is in the same area of campus not spread across the city of Brookings like in Grand Forks.

I can remember walking across the street to look at Memorial Stadium during breaks at basketball camp at Hyslop. And also walking over to the old Ralph. Now I see a ramp is built on the Swanson parking lot. Lots of changes at UND.

[darell1976]

I can remember walking across the street to look at Memorial Stadium during breaks at basketball camp at Hyslop. And also walking over to the old Ralph. Now I see a ramp is built on the Swanson parking lot. Lots of changes at UND.

The ramp is built the old Ralph is coming down as the new IPF is going up in its spot and Memorial sits there waiting for the green light to be remodeled (if we go FBS).

[Laker]

The ramp is built the old Ralph is coming down as the new IPF is going up in its spot and Memorial sits there waiting for the green light to be remodeled (if we go FBS).

I wondered what Memorial was being used for now- track? when I drove past it a month ago.

[darell1976]

I wondered what Memorial was being used for now- track? when I drove past it a month ago.

Track and football practice.

[frozennorth]

(if we go FBS).

and people say ndsu fans are delusional. :D

but seriously whats the word on SDSU's facilities?

[344Johnson]

The ramp is built the old Ralph is coming down as the new IPF is going up in its spot and Memorial sits there waiting for the green light to be remodeled (if we go FBS).

Let me guess...approximately 6 or 7 years after laughing at NDSU for doing the same thing and seeing NDSU become wildly successful?

[Kemo]

What's the update on the Human Performance Facility? Is construction starting this spring? Is the entire facility being built or only part?

The Indoor Practice Facility approval bill has passed both the SD House and Senate and is just waiting to be signed by the Governor (at least I haven't heard that it's been signed yet). Currently 28 million of the 32 million that is need is secured in private funding and construction will begin this spring (not sure if there will be a component of the project held off until the other 4 million is found or they will just go ahead and maybe take an IOU with the SDSU Foundation).

Here is the most recent article by the Argus Leader (http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130307/SPORTS0202/130307010/First-Bank-Trust-pledges-1M-planned-SDSU-facility?nclick_check=1).

[darell1976]

The Indoor Practice Facility approval bill has passed both the SD House and Senate and is just waiting to be signed by the Governor (at least I haven't heard that it's been signed yet). Currently 28 million of the 32 million that is need is secured in private funding and construction will begin this spring (not sure if there will be a component of the project held off until the other 4 million is found or they will just go ahead and maybe take an IOU with the SDSU Foundation).

Here is the most recent article by the Argus Leader (http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130307/SPORTS0202/130307010/First-Bank-Trust-pledges-1M-planned-SDSU-facility?nclick_check=1).

Good luck on the last 4 million. Exciting times in Brookings.

[TheBisonator]

Good luck on the last 4 million. Exciting times in Brookings.

At NDSU, we've hit the brick wall in trying to raise our last few million for our BSA rebuild.

[NDSUstudent]

At NDSU, we've hit the brick wall in trying to raise our last few million for our BSA rebuild.



hmmm I wonder why lol

[Kemo]

SB 11 (bill authorizing the construction of SDSU's Indoor Practice/Human Performance Facility) was signed on March 14th by Governor Dennis Daugaard.

http://legis.state.sd.us/sessions/2013/Bill.aspx?Bill=11

[89rabbit]

Some may find this interesting - last step before dirt gets moved:

http://sdbor.edu/theboard/agenda/2013/June/CommB/III_B.pdf

[89rabbit]

From the Sioux Falls Argus Leader:

http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130619/SPORTS0202/306190032/Name-SDSU-s-indoor-practice-complex-almost-final-Sanford?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports

Name for SDSU's indoor practice complex almost final with Sanford
Name for practice complex almost final with Sanford


Written by
Terry Vandrovec


Goodbye, South Dakota State indoor practice and human performance facility; hello, Sanford-Jackrabbit Athletic Complex.

Making the latter the official name is one of the details of the forthcoming project the school will take to the Board of Regents today in Vermillion.

According to the meeting agenda, SDSU proposes giving Sanford Health naming rights for 20 years in recognition of a previously announced $10 million donation to the privately funded facility, while allowing the school to retain other naming possibilities.

Also to be discussed: The last bit of details pertaining to cost and amenities in advance of July 1, the earliest construction can start. The information that SDSU is presenting looks similar to what it first proposed roughly 18 months ago – a building covering 164,168 square feet just north of the Dykhouse Student-Athlete Center for $32 million. . . . (read more)

[darell1976]

From the Sioux Falls Argus Leader:

http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130619/SPORTS0202/306190032/Name-SDSU-s-indoor-practice-complex-almost-final-Sanford?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports

Name for SDSU's indoor practice complex almost final with Sanford
Name for practice complex almost final with Sanford


Written by
Terry Vandrovec


Goodbye, South Dakota State indoor practice and human performance facility; hello, Sanford-Jackrabbit Athletic Complex.

Making the latter the official name is one of the details of the forthcoming project the school will take to the Board of Regents today in Vermillion.

According to the meeting agenda, SDSU proposes giving Sanford Health naming rights for 20 years in recognition of a previously announced $10 million donation to the privately funded facility, while allowing the school to retain other naming possibilities.

Also to be discussed: The last bit of details pertaining to cost and amenities in advance of July 1, the earliest construction can start. The information that SDSU is presenting looks similar to what it first proposed roughly 18 months ago – a building covering
164,168 square feet just north of the Dykhouse Student-Athlete Center for $32 million. . . . (read more)

UND's new IPF is only around 80,000 square feet, so you guys are getting a huge building. Good luck on the success of your athletic complex.

[BluBengal07]

i have limited access here at work (but i can still get in herexthumbsupx) but i found this sketch. look like you all are trying to build an luxury suite for sports. real nice.

http://pubstorage.sdstate.edu/universityrelationsphotos/SDSU-Sanford.jpg

[UNDColorado]

That is going to be a really nice facility!

[CrazyCat]

Nothing like dodging a discus and hammer during football practice. xlolxxsmiley_wix

[344Johnson]

Nothing like dodging a discus and hammer during football practice. xlolxxsmiley_wix

There are more people there to watch this track/football combo practice than there were at their home playoff game last year!

In all honesty, it looks like a great facility.

[MplsBison]

Nothing like dodging a discus and hammer during football practice. xlolxxsmiley_wix

What are those people doing inside the glass box above lanes 7 & 8 of the track (left side of the picture)??

I guess it's something like a human display case. xthumbsupx

[Dakotaguy74]

Go-Go girls maybe?

[BluBengal07]

What are those people doing inside the glass box above lanes 7 & 8 of the track (left side of the picture)??

I guess it's something like a human display case. xthumbsupx

looks like a fitness center with folks on cycles and treadmills.

[i_got_a_fever]

http://www.gojacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=15000&ATCLID=205564186

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/facility/renderings/SDSU_FieldHouseLights600dpi.jpg

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/facility/renderings/500dpiTrack_0.jpg

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/facility/renderings/500dpiScimmage_0.jpg

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/facility/renderings/500dpiHyrdrotherapyjpg_0.jpg

Don't forget the other component of the facility, the human performance center.

[BluBengal07]

having a true indoor track platform on campus is a premium. not may D1AAs has them that can actually hold meets.

great foresight SDSU!

[MplsBison]

300m indoor tracks with the infield being a turf football practice field *SHOULD* become the standard for indoor facilities. Gets you the most bang for your buck and the tracks are much nicer than the 200m indoor tracks of old.

[MplsBison]

Don't forget the other component of the facility, the human performance center.

But that's already built, correct? That's what they call the end zone facility at Coughlin, I believe. This new building will be constructed directly attached to that facility and will have the big room with the track and field and then also will expand the end zone facility with some more space, including the hydro therapy equipment shown above.

[Rabbit74]

But that's already built, correct? That's what they call the end zone facility at Coughlin, I believe. This new building will be constructed directly attached to that facility and will have the big room with the track and field and then also will expand the end zone facility with some more space, including the hydro therapy equipment shown above.

No, what already is built is The Dkyhouse Student Athlete Center which is basically the football locker rooms, weight machines,etc, and academic support center. The human performance center will provide space for sports medicine, orthopedics and rehabilitation programs as well as academic related programs and more strength and conditioning space in addition to the indoor practice facility.

Here are links to more information.

http://www.gojacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=15000&ATCLID=205564186

http://sdsudevelopingchampions.com/?DB_OEM_ID=15000

[MplsBison]

Very good. Thank you Rabbit74!

[89rabbit]

http://www.gojacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209124165&DB_OEM_ID=15000

18019

A groundbreaking ceremony for the Sanford-Jackrabbit Athletic Complex will be held in conjunction with South Dakota State’s 2013 football opener on Aug. 31.

The ceremony, which is open to the public, is scheduled for 3 p.m. in the construction area directly north of Coughlin-Alumni Stadium and the Dykhouse Student-Athlete Center.

The Sanford-Jackrabbit Athletic Complex is scheduled to be completed in the fall of 2014. The indoor practice and human performance facility will include an eight-lane, 300-meter competition track and 100 yards of synthetic turf, along with space for sports medicine, athletic training, strength and conditioning, physical therapy, hydrotherapy, observation rooms and office facilities. . . . (read more)

[i_got_a_fever]

This week's Jackrabbit Insider has a lot of great information on the new Sanford-Jackrabbit Athletics Complex. Top Notch Facility. Onward to the new stadium.

http://gojacks.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?id=3060088

[KUlawJack]

This week's Jackrabbit Insider has a lot of great information on the new Sanford-Jackrabbit Athletics Complex. Top Notch Facility. Onward to the new stadium.

http://gojacks.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?id=3060088

Did you notice the stadium rendering starting about 2:50? That's the first I've seen of that.

[Darlinikki150]

Congrats! Any money given to a school is a good deal. Hope the Jacks make the most of it.

[MplsBison]

Ok, did anyone notice this in today's Forum article? http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/419999/group/Sports/



NDSU is 4-0 against Southern Conference teams with three of them against Georgia Southern and one against Wofford College (S.C.). The Paladins have faced only one Missouri Valley team, and that was back in 1989 when they beat Youngstown State.
Preparation this week for NDSU may have its share of challenges. The Northern Ag Expo is taking place in the Fargodome Monday through Wednesday, forcing the Bison outside on Monday and today.
NDSU will have to deal with a couple of snow systems, although Bohl didn’t appear to be in a weather-talking mood. A winter weather advisory was posted for Monday by the National Weather Service and a winter storm watch was posted for today.
“I know this, we have a big ballgame that we’re getting prepared for,” he said.
Practicing in poor conditions would be nothing new to NDSU in December. The Bison worked out in a blizzard prior to the 2010 playoff game at Montana State.


Garbage. Pure and simple. Disgusting.

That's how NDSU treats it's back-to-back national championship team. Forcing them outside in a blizzard for two of their most important practices of the game week.

Every game NDSU plays the next three weeks is going to be indoors. Theyshouldn't have to set a foot outdoors in the god-forsaken winter wasteland that is Fargo in December.


I'm not mad at the Fargodome at all. I get they need to host events and they need to make money.

I'm mad at NDSU for not building the indoor track large enough to have a football field in the infield. Just brainless. Stupid. Idiots.


I actually want a player to twist an ankle or a knee out on the snowy outdoor fieldturf so make this into a bigger issue.

SDSU and UND are going to have first class indoor practice fields. GET. IT. DONE. NDSU.... gee whiz.

[Bisonator]

Ok, did anyone notice this in today's Forum article? http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/419999/group/Sports/



Garbage. Pure and simple. Disgusting.

That's how NDSU treats it's back-to-back national championship team. Forcing them outside in a blizzard for two of their most important practices of the game week.

Every game NDSU plays the next three weeks is going to be indoors. Theyshouldn't have to set a foot outdoors in the god-forsaken winter wasteland that is Fargo in December.


I'm not mad at the Fargodome at all. I get they need to host events and they need to make money.

I'm mad at NDSU for not building the indoor track large enough to have a football field in the infield. Just brainless. Stupid. Idiots.


I actually want a player to twist an ankle or a knee out on the snowy outdoor fieldturf so make this into a bigger issue.

SDSU and UND are going to have first class indoor practice fields. GET. IT. DONE. NDSU.... gee whiz.

You are the only one who seems to be having a problem with it. Seriously doubt the players mind a whole lot. They've been practicing outside every week and I'm sure they will continue to do so.

And this just makes you a ****ing Dick! Hoping a player gets injured so you can say I told you so? ****ing big Dick! xsmhx

[NoDak 4 Ever]

You are the only one who seems to be having a problem with it. Seriously doubt the players mind a whole lot. They've been practicing outside every week and I'm sure they will continue to do so.

And this just makes you a ****ing Dick! Hoping a player gets injured so you can say I told you so? ****ing big Dick! xsmhx

Yup. He should just write a check


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[MplsBison]

You are the only one who seems to be having a problem with it. Seriously doubt the players mind a whole lot. They've been practicing outside every week and I'm sure they will continue to do so.

And this just makes you a ****ing Dick! Hoping a player gets injured so you can say I told you so? ****ing big Dick! xsmhx

Oh boo hoo. You're just putting on a show because it's me.

Look, plain and simple: it'd be worth a back-up missing the Furman game if it would get Bohl fired up about getting a MUCH deserved IPF.

[Bisonator]

How the **** is an IPF going to prevent an injury that can happen anywhere? You ****ing moron!

[MplsBison]

How the **** is an IPF going to prevent an injury that can happen anywhere? You ****ing moron!

Don't be a child. If you can't understand that piles of snow and frigid temps make for piss-poor practice conditions and slippery fields, then I would challenge your driving privileges.

[swaghook]

IPF is a waste of $$$.

http://kdvr.com/2013/11/26/winterizing-peyton-manning-title-winning-coach-fargo-resident-may-have-some-ideas/

"Case in point: the $15 million indoor practice facility the Cornhuskers built for their football program in the 1990s. At the time, it was comparable — if not superior — to any practice facility in the NFL.

And Nebraska head coach Tom Osborne rarely used it.
“That used to baffle me,” Bohl said. “What’s the point of having this multi-million dollar indoor facility if we’re always going to practice outside?”

Two national championships later, Bohl said, “I quit asking that question.” "

[MplsBison]

IPF is a waste of $$$.

http://kdvr.com/2013/11/26/winterizing-peyton-manning-title-winning-coach-fargo-resident-may-have-some-ideas/

"Case in point: the $15 million indoor practice facility the Cornhuskers built for their football program in the 1990s. At the time, it was comparable — if not superior — to any practice facility in the NFL.

And Nebraska head coach Tom Osborne rarely used it.
“That used to baffle me,” Bohl said. “What’s the point of having this multi-million dollar indoor facility if we’re always going to practice outside?”

Two national championships later, Bohl said, “I quit asking that question.” "

Nice try Swag. That article has absolutely nothing to do with Fargo or NDSU. You just wanted to post something against it because it was me. Really pathetic of you.

[swaghook]

It has everything to do with Fargo and how the football program is ran. An IPF is for the soft bellied teams, practicing in the elements is what makes NDSU the program that it is.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Nice try Swag. That article has absolutely nothing to do with Fargo or NDSU. You just wanted to post something against it because it was me. Really pathetic of you.

It mentions how the Bison rarely practice in the dome regardless of its availability.

It isn't about you.


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[clenz]

UNI has complete access to the UNIDome at all times and practices out side almost every single day unless there is lightning/negative temps with strong winds/tornado/raining so hard the field is just a mud pit.

Fargo is going to be about 30* tomorrow with 1-2 inches of snow forecasted....today was 28* with 1/2in of snow according to weather.com.

Hardly the ****ty weather you're making it out to be.

[MplsBison]

It has everything to do with Fargo and how the football program is ran. An IPF is for the soft bellied teams, practicing in the elements is what makes NDSU the program that it is.

What total nonsense. NDSU plays every game indoors. I guess that makes them soft??

[FargoBison]

This solution won't be good enough for MPLS but it is what will likely happen....


I just talked with NDSU athletic director Gene Taylor and he said a facility such as Youngstown's isn't on the Bison's radar. The school just completed an indoor track facility and can use the Fargodome enough to escape the worst weather Fargo has to offer. A "bubble"-type practice facility is where NDSU is likely headed, Taylor said.


http://kfgo.com/blogs/so-many-opinions-so-little-time/953/video-youngstown-state-has-something-ndsu-doesnt/

[swaghook]

What total nonsense. NDSU plays every game indoors. I guess that makes them soft??

The dome was for the fans not for the team. The team would play on the old Dacotah field if needed and not care about the weather for the game. The Fargodome is all about the comfort of the fanbase.

[mmiller_34]

How childish of me to think there was any new news on SDSU's fundraising for their football facilities after seeing this thread reemerge...

[Southern Bison]

How childish of me to think there was any new news on SDSU's fundraising for their football facilities after seeing this thread reemerge...

Leave it to Lakes...I mean MPLS to try to **** on any thread he can.

Anecdote: I met Lakes at the Youngstown game after being told by numerous people "hey, you see that guy? That's lakesbison." Nuff said...glad you banned him, UAH!

[Thumper76]

What total nonsense. NDSU plays every game indoors. I guess that makes them soft??

They are the only truely physical indoor team I can think of. Most are soft or finesse if you will. USD is getting there. But on the whole generally dome teams arent physical.

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[Kemo]

To make this thread pertinent to the title again, SDSU beat writer Terry Vandrovec posted a picture of the steel going up on the facility:

http://instagram.com/p/hb5COduzU2/#

[mmiller_34]

Leave it to Lakes...I mean MPLS to try to **** on any thread he can.

Anecdote: I met Lakes at the Youngstown game after being told by numerous people "hey, you see that guy? That's lakesbison." Nuff said...glad you banned him, UAH!

Haha. It's a mystery why anyone would reveal themselves as him.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Haha. It's a mystery why anyone would reveal themselves as him.

He's a pretty big attention whore.

[slostang]

To make this thread pertinent to the title again, SDSU beat writer Terry Vandrovec posted a picture of the steel going up on the facility:

http://instagram.com/p/hb5COduzU2/#
Way to save the thread Kemo.

Exciting news for SDSU football. Now the facility is more than a drawing for recruits on their visits.

[mmiller_34]

To make this thread pertinent to the title again, SDSU beat writer Terry Vandrovec posted a picture of the steel going up on the facility:

http://instagram.com/p/hb5COduzU2/#

Nice. I've had the chance to drive by there every so often since the last home game. LOTS of progress made. Should see a steel frame pretty soon I think.

I'm also getting excited for the BOR meeting or what not; I'm getting jazzed to hear when we can start the stadium.... When I was a student I loved the atmosphere in the student section on game days at Coughlin. Now, being a season ticket holder... The stadium is uncomfortable and annoying. I literally don't buy concessions because it is so inconvenient to move from my seat.

CANT WAIT.

[Kemo]

Nice. I've had the chance to drive by there every so often since the last home game. LOTS of progress made. Should see a steel frame pretty soon I think.

I'm also getting excited for the BOR meeting or what not; I'm getting jazzed to hear when we can start the stadium.... When I was a student I loved the atmosphere in the student section on game days at Coughlin. Now, being a season ticket holder... The stadium is uncomfortable and annoying. I literally don't buy concessions because it is so inconvenient to move from my seat.

CANT WAIT.
Speaking of the stadium, a reputable poster on SDSUfans.com posted the BOR Agenda with the new stadium going up for final approval (http://sdbor.edu/theboard/agenda/2013/December/15.pdf).

To paraphrase the document: They are recommending approve from the legislature and emergency designation which will allow the construction to start immediately instead of waiting till July 1st. Need 2/3 vote.

Here is the rendering used on the BOR Document:
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[mmiller_34]

Speaking of the stadium, a reputable poster on SDSUfans.com posted the BOR Agenda with the new stadium going up for final approval (http://sdbor.edu/theboard/agenda/2013/December/15.pdf).

To paraphrase the document: They are recommending approve from the legislature and emergency designation which will allow the construction to start immediately instead of waiting till July 1st. Need 2/3 vote.

Here is the rendering used on the BOR Document:
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damn that looks nice.

[justintyem]

You are the only one who seems to be having a problem with it. Seriously doubt the players mind a whole lot. They've been practicing outside every week and I'm sure they will continue to do so.

And this just makes you a ****ing Dick! Hoping a player gets injured so you can say I told you so? ****ing big Dick! xsmhxAnd who would have a picture taken if they were pissed about the weather,Looks like they are having fun???? 18602

[Bisonoline]

Oh boo hoo. You're just putting on a show because it's me.

Look, plain and simple: it'd be worth a back-up missing the Furman game if it would get Bohl fired up about getting a MUCH deserved IPF.

STFU geez youre a dick.

[Bisonoline]

Nice try Swag. That article has absolutely nothing to do with Fargo or NDSU. You just wanted to post something against it because it was me. Really pathetic of you.

So thats your excuse because people disagree with the content of your post ---just because its you??? grow up for crying out loud. Youre nothing but a pathetic troll.

[dewey]

I am confused is this a thread about SDSU's new stadium or about NDSU fans arguing about practicing outside?

Dewey

[mmiller_34]

Kemo and I tried to keep it on topic, then a picture of Brock Jensen in snow showed up.

[dewey]

Speaking of the stadium, a reputable poster on SDSUfans.com posted the BOR Agenda with the new stadium going up for final approval (http://sdbor.edu/theboard/agenda/2013/December/15.pdf).

To paraphrase the document: They are recommending approve from the legislature and emergency designation which will allow the construction to start immediately instead of waiting till July 1st. Need 2/3 vote.

Here is the rendering used on the BOR Document:
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That rendering looks great! I noticed the practice facility East(?) of the current field is now a parking lot under the rendering. Where does the practice facilty go? My 3.5 year old had a LOT of fun playing football with me on the practice facility grass during halftime.

Maybe it was covered already but when is ribbon cutting supposed to be?

Dewey

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Kemo and I tried to keep it on topic, then a picture of Brock Jensen in snow showed up.

The whole argument stems from the fact that MPLS seems to think that this is a necessary tool. Good for SDSU that you have one but we obviously don't need it. Practicing outdoors seems to work just fine.

[KUlawJack]

The whole argument stems from the fact that MPLS seems to think that this is a necessary tool. Good for SDSU that you have one but we obviously don't need it. Practicing outdoors seems to work just fine.

Our facility will service a lot more than just football though, which we sorely need.

[Bisonoline]

Our facility will service a lot more than just football though, which we sorely need.

We could use one as well as other sports would probably use it more than the FB team.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

We could use one as well as other sports would probably use it more than the FB team.

it appears we have chosen to use other facilities. The new Track and Field and SHAC should fit the needs.

[Thumper76]

That rendering looks great! I noticed the practice facility East(?) of the current field is now a parking lot under the rendering. Where does the practice facilty go? My 3.5 year old had a LOT of fun playing football with me on the practice facility grass during halftime.

Maybe it was covered already but when is ribbon cutting supposed to be?

Dewey

Two fields are just across the street further east of there. Thats where most of practice gets done

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[MplsBison]

This solution won't be good enough for MPLS but it is what will likely happen....




http://kfgo.com/blogs/so-many-opinions-so-little-time/953/video-youngstown-state-has-something-ndsu-doesnt/

I would do a backflip if they built a bubble over the Dacotah fieldturf. In other words, what St. Cloud State has had for 10+ years.

The fees they'd collect from rec sports being played there in the cold months alone would pay for it.


Don't get me wrong, it was a HUGE mistake to build the indoor track as only a 200m. Basically, they wanted to build exactly what was in the BSA in another building as cheaply as possible.

[MplsBison]

The dome was for the fans not for the team. The team would play on the old Dacotah field if needed and not care about the weather for the game. The Fargodome is all about the comfort of the fanbase.

I don't think I've seen someone backpedal that fast since the last time Marcus Williams played! xlolx

If being in the cold = toughness, then you would like to take the furnaces out of every house or apartment that the players sleep in. This is a very easy argument for you to lose, I suggest you drop it.


I doubt you're 70 years old, so stop acting that way.

[MplsBison]

Speaking of the stadium, a reputable poster on SDSUfans.com posted the BOR Agenda with the new stadium going up for final approval (http://sdbor.edu/theboard/agenda/2013/December/15.pdf).

To paraphrase the document: They are recommending approve from the legislature and emergency designation which will allow the construction to start immediately instead of waiting till July 1st. Need 2/3 vote.

Here is the rendering used on the BOR Document:
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Best football facilities in the Dakotas, when it's all said and done.

NDSU moves down to #2 and UND would have better practice facilities.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

I don't think I've seen someone backpedal that fast since the last time Marcus Williams played! xlolx

If being in the cold = toughness, then you would like to take the furnaces out of every house or apartment that the players sleep in. This is a very easy argument for you to lose, I suggest you drop it.


I doubt you're 70 years old, so stop acting that way.

nope but he has 3 national championship rings from when he played. much more credible than a keyboard warrior such as yourself.


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[MplsBison]

The whole argument stems from the fact that MPLS seems to think that this is a necessary tool. Good for SDSU that you have one but we obviously don't need it. Practicing outdoors seems to work just fine.

Brock Jensen slips on the snow/frozen fieldturf, twists his ankle, high ankle sprain, done for the playoffs. Wouldn't have happened practicing indoors.

You lose.

[Bisonoline]

I don't think I've seen someone backpedal that fast since the last time Marcus Williams played! xlolx

If being in the cold = toughness, then you would like to take the furnaces out of every house or apartment that the players sleep in. This is a very easy argument for you to lose, I suggest you drop it.




I doubt you're 70 years old, so stop acting that way.

You quit being an azzhole . You first

[MplsBison]

it appears we have chosen to use other facilities. The new Track and Field and SHAC should fit the needs.

Except for baseball, softball, football and soccer.

Fail.

[Bisonoline]

Brock Jensen slips on the snow/frozen fieldturf, twists his ankle, high ankle sprain, done for the playoffs. Wouldn't have happened practicing indoors.

You lose.

How long are you going to push the ban meter before you disappear again?

[MplsBison]

nope but he has 3 national championship rings from when he played. much more credible than a keyboard warrior such as yourself.


NDSU plays indoors and practices indoors as many times as they can when the game is in Fargo, particularly in cold weather. And they are the toughest team in FCS.

His argument is patently absurd and it doesn't require any number of rings to comprehend that.


I will say that I respect the warriors who played on old Dacotah and used it and the weather to their advantage. That's great. But that may have well been back during leather helmets.

[MplsBison]

How long are you going to push the ban meter before you disappear again?

I haven't violated a single term of using the message board. If you want to ban people because you disagree with them and don't like them personally, all it does is reflect negatively upon yourself and AGS for your abuse of power.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

I haven't violated a single term of using the message board. If you want to ban people because you disagree with them and don't like them personally, all it does is reflect negatively upon yourself and AGS for your abuse of power.

plenty of users with banhammers to do with what they wish.

been waiting for mine for a while now.

[Bisonoline]

I haven't violated a single term of using the message board. If you want to ban people because you disagree with them and don't like them personally, all it does is reflect negatively upon yourself and AGS for your abuse of power.

No it reflects on you as a person whos only reason to come here is to show his ass. Then you throw that tripe out to rationalize your poor berhavior. Now be gone with you. The adults are having a conversation and children like yourself should be seen and not heard. In your case not being seen would be a good thing also.

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plenty of users with banhammers to do with what they wish.

been waiting for mine for a while now.

Lets string a bunch together and may be we can get rid of him for the whole playoff season.

[swaghook]

I don't think I've seen someone backpedal that fast since the last time Marcus Williams played! xlolx

If being in the cold = toughness, then you would like to take the furnaces out of every house or apartment that the players sleep in. This is a very easy argument for you to lose, I suggest you drop it.





I doubt you're 70 years old, so stop acting that way.

What back pedaling? You must have a reading comprehension issue. The dome was built for the fans to be comfortable not for the players to be comfortable. I stand by my statement that practicing in the elements no matter what they may be hot, cold, humid, wet, dry, windy, snowy, ect makes the players better on the field come game day. They don't need an IPF that would not see use because Bohl and company would choose to practice outdoors regardless of the weather.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

What back pedaling? You must have a reading comprehension issue. The dome was built for the fans to be comfortable not for the players to be comfortable. I stand by my statement that practicing in the elements no matter what they may be hot, cold, humid, wet, dry, windy, snowy, ect makes the players better on the field come game day. They don't need an IPF that would not see use because Bohl and company would choose to practice outdoors regardless of the weather.

Just be happy I mistook your post for CAS. gave you a ton of glory! Forget the troll. There's a reason he has 12,000 posts and has yet to say anything.

[swaghook]

My apologies to the rabbit fans was not planning on further derailing this thread but could not let such asinine statements made go with out comment.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

My apologies to the rabbit fans was not planning on further derailing this thread but could not let such asinine statements made go with out comment.

Me either. Good job SDSU. Kick EWU's ass, we won't mind.

[swaghook]

Just be happy I mistook your post for CAS. gave you a ton of glory! Forget the troll. There's a reason he has 12,000 posts and has yet to say anything.

Was wondering who you thought I was. lol. I'm sure CAS would side with us on the issue though. xnodx

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Was wondering who you thought I was. lol. I'm sure CAS would side with us on the issue though. xnodx

sometimes I can't see very well on the iPad and I get the posts mixed up. CAS thinks he's a dope too.

[Bisonoline]

I see our problem child disappeared just as I thought he would.xnodx

[Thumper76]

My apologies to the rabbit fans was not planning on further derailing this thread but could not let such asinine statements made go with out comment.

Meh, we're used to this sort of thing by now ; D

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[MplsBison]

What back pedaling? You must have a reading comprehension issue. The dome was built for the fans to be comfortable not for the players to be comfortable. I stand by my statement that practicing in the elements no matter what they may be hot, cold, humid, wet, dry, windy, snowy, ect makes the players better on the field come game day. They don't need an IPF that would not see use because Bohl and company would choose to practice outdoors regardless of the weather.

The dome was built because Division I, championship level football can't be played in Fargo after mid November, most years.

That's the simple fact of the matter.


Bohl would be rightfully fired for forcing players to practice outside in these bulls___t conditions under the false pretense of "getting tough". As I already proved you wrong: spending 2 hours out of 24 outside does not allow a human to acclimate himself to freezing conditions, mentally or physically. You're lying to yourself and everyone else by continuing to claim otherwise. But if that's your agenda, so be it.

But it would never come to that because I know for a fact that Bohl and the coaching staff would not set foot outdoors to practice for the next three weeks if they had a full 100 yard fieldturf indoors. Why would they?? They play the games indoors! It doesn't make you a single iota "tougher" to practice outdoors in terrible conditions. Just exposes yourself to additional injury risk and risk for sickness.

[Bisonator]

Where's the orange?xlolx

[Kemo]

I hate contributing a post that is actually on topic, but the SD Board of Regents unanimously approved the stadium proposal to move on the a vote by the legislature according to the SDSU beat writer (https://twitter.com/TerryVandrovec/status/408351850866290690).

[Twentysix]

Awesome, is it fully financed already?

[Kemo]

Awesome, is it fully financed already?

From the BOR Document:



The resources for the project include:
Financial commitments to date (donations/gifts): $19,800,000
Foundation commitment: $ 7,200,000
Building Authority bond sale proceeds: $36,000,000
University Funds for UPD space/ausilary retail space $ 2,000,000
Total project resources: $65,000,000



So yes, the financing is in place, though how the bonds will be paid are speculative.

The plan is solid enough to be met by unanimous approval by the SD Board of Regents, so hopefully that will sway the legislature in a conservative state to pass it.

[Bisonoline]

The dome was built because Division I, championship level football can't be played in Fargo after mid November, most years.

That's the simple fact of the matter.


Bohl would be rightfully fired for forcing players to practice outside in these bulls___t conditions under the false pretense of "getting tough". As I already proved you wrong: spending 2 hours out of 24 outside does not allow a human to acclimate himself to freezing conditions, mentally or physically. You're lying to yourself and everyone else by continuing to claim otherwise. But if that's your agenda, so be it.

But it would never come to that because I know for a fact that Bohl and the coaching staff would not set foot outdoors to practice for the next three weeks if they had a full 100 yard fieldturf indoors. Why would they?? They play the games indoors! It doesn't make you a single iota "tougher" to practice outdoors in terrible conditions. Just exposes yourself to additional injury risk and risk for sickness.

xcoffeexxwhistlex

[Jacks02]

SDSU, USD move closer to facility goalshttp://www.argusleader.com/article/20131205/SPORTS02/312050023/SDSU-USD-move-closer-facility-goals

[Thumper76]

Hey SDSU fans, wayyyy to many on topic posts. Dont you know you are supposed to mindlessly bicker about whether NDSU needs an indoor practice field?

[Kemo]

Hey SDSU fans, wayyyy to many on topic posts. Dont you know you are supposed to mindlessly bicker about whether NDSU needs an indoor practice field?
I thought it was about the number of different types of practice facilities NDSU needs? I find that they might be at a disadvantage in a game played in low gravity, so hopefully their administration gets their act together and starts raising funds for that moon-based practice facility ASAP.

[Bisonator]

I thought it was about the number of different types of practice facilities NDSU needs? I find that they might be at a disadvantage in a game played in low gravity, so hopefully their administration gets their act together and starts raising funds for that moon-based practice facility ASAP.

This here. At Fargo's elevation other teams struggle with the low oxygen. Especially during the spring floods! xlolx

[Thumper76]

I thought it was about the number of different types of practice facilities NDSU needs? I find that they might be at a disadvantage in a game played in low gravity, so hopefully their administration gets their act together and starts raising funds for that moon-based practice facility ASAP.

And they need a bigger pool to practice under water in just in case they have to play the University of Atlantis. Their current facilities are woefully inadiquate for both game possibilities. The moon based on is much more important however, in the event we need to play the aliens for the fate of the human race, and the bison would be the obvious choice to save our bacon in such a scenario.

[MplsBison]

From the BOR Document:



So yes, the financing is in place, though how the bonds will be paid are speculative.

The plan is solid enough to be met by unanimous approval by the SD Board of Regents, so hopefully that will sway the legislature in a conservative state to pass it.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. The state of South Dakota is letting SDSU take out... bonds!! ... to finance an athletics facilities project???

What kind of namby-pamby state is SD????

In North Dakota, a school isn't allowed to start building anything unless all of the money has been privately raised! That's the way MEN build facilities!! None of this bond crap. And wood burning stoves too!!

[MplsBison]

Looks like I am vindicated after all:

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/422069/group/Sports/


Of course none of you will admit that you were wrong and I was right, but it's good enough for me that I knew the truth all along. Hopefully some of you will recognize the absurdity in all of this, open your minds a little bit and join me in encouraging NDSU to build an indoor field on-campus in the near future, whether that be a bubble or an actual building (the latter greatly preferred).

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Looks like I am vindicated after all:

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/422069/group/Sports/


Of course none of you will admit that you were wrong and I was right, but it's good enough for me that I knew the truth all along. Hopefully some of you will recognize the absurdity in all of this, open your minds a little bit and join me in encouraging NDSU to build an indoor field on-campus in the near future, whether that be a bubble or an actual building (the latter greatly preferred).

I see you're just going to spam all the IPF threads. I do have some questions for you.

Have you been to a Bison game this year? Anywhere?
Are you a Team Maker?
Have you ever donated to NDSU athletics?
Are you coming to Frisco? Plenty of tickets available.

So far all you are is an internet squawker who doesn't do much besides bitch at everything.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

[QUOTE=NoDak 4 Ever;2081482]I see you're just going to spam all the IPF threads. I do have some questions for you.

Have you been to a Bison game this year? Anywhere?
Are you a Team Maker?
Have you ever donated to NDSU athletics?
Are you coming to Frisco? Plenty of tickets available.

So far all you are is an internet squawker who doesn't do much besides bitch at everything.[/QUOTE


Collective NO to all questions.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Yah, I knew the answers

[MplsBison]

I see you're just going to spam all the IPF threads. I do have some questions for you.

Have you been to a Bison game this year? Anywhere?
Are you a Team Maker?
Have you ever donated to NDSU athletics?
Are you coming to Frisco? Plenty of tickets available.

So far all you are is an internet squawker who doesn't do much besides bitch at everything.

Here are some more irrelevant, ad hominem questions related to proving if "you're a real North Dakotan":

What kind of truck do you own?
How many hours a day do you listen/watch Fox News?
How many tax dollars did you avoid paying this year?

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Here are some more irrelevant, ad hominem questions related to proving if "you're a real North Dakotan":

What kind of truck do you own?
How many hours a day do you listen/watch Fox News?
How many tax dollars did you avoid paying this year?

None of which is germane in the least to the fact that you are complaining what NDSU will or will not pay for while providing no support, material or otherwise.

[IBleedYellow]

It's cute when you two fight against each other. In this case go Nodak go.

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[KUlawJack]

JFC, to think I was going to hear some news about our new IPF or stadium when I saw this thread bumped. What was I thinking?

[IBleedYellow]

JFC, to think I was going to hear some news about our new IPF or stadium when I saw this thread bumped. What was I thinking?

Yeah, sorry about that troll . We don't and never will claim him.

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[NoDak 4 Ever]

It's cute when you two fight against each other. In this case go Nodak go.

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This is just as absurd as the FBS talk by the non-contributors. As soon as I heard the news yesterday about the Alerus Center stuff I knew this was going to happen.


JFC, to think I was going to hear some news about our new IPF or stadium when I saw this thread bumped. What was I thinking?

Coming to AGS for news? heh.

[MplsBison]

None of which is germane in the least to the fact that you are complaining what NDSU will or will not pay for while providing no support, material or otherwise.

Indeed, I am complaining about something that is legitimate to complain about.

[MplsBison]

JFC, to think I was going to hear some news about our new IPF or stadium when I saw this thread bumped. What was I thinking?

I realize you're trying to make a point, though you standing on this principle is roughly akin to standing on principle about not jaywalking, but you do realize that you're able to see which poster has most recently bumped the thread, correct?

Because it's true. Use your considerable intellect and intuition to assist you in the considerable decision of whether to click on the thread or not.

[KUlawJack]

I realize you're trying to make a point, though you standing on this principle is roughly akin to standing on principle about not jaywalking, but you do realize that you're able to see which poster has most recently bumped the thread, correct?

Because it's true. Use your considerable intellect and intuition to assist you in the considerable decision of whether to click on the thread or not.

xnutsx


None of what you posted is accurate. One can see who posted last in a thread. When I clicked, the last poster was IBleedYellow. Perhaps he was actually commenting on something another poster mentioned about SDSU's new facilities. Unfortunately, my considerable intellect and intuition did not allow me to conclude that you continue to carry on a pissing match about NDSU's facilities in a thread dedicated to SDSU's facilities. But, by all means, carry on.

[MplsBison]

xnutsx


None of what you posted is accurate. One can see who posted last in a thread. When I clicked, the last poster was IBleedYellow. Perhaps he was actually commenting on something another poster mentioned about SDSU's new facilities. Unfortunately, my considerable intellect and intuition did not allow me to conclude that you continue to carry on a pissing match about NDSU's facilities in a thread dedicated to SDSU's facilities. But, by all means, carry on.

Haha. "None of what you posted is accurate....except the main gist of your post, which I agree is accurate."

Thanks, I will continue to post messages about FCS level football on a message board set-up for the explicit purpose of doing that. If you don't like it, sue me! xblehx

[NDSUSR]

Step 1 - Build Indoor practice and human performance center.

Step 2 - Build New 22,500 seat Stadium.

http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/ZoomStatic/UserData/L2222/L2222VUM7ENJ/L2BGL6V22QBB.jpg

Step 3 - Continue to be mediocre. :)

[MplsBison]

Step 3 - Continue to be mediocre. :)

You mean:

Step 3 - have the best football facilities in the Dakotas

And since facilities are the prime mover of a football program (they attract top players and coaches, which brings wins, which brings fans and money into the program, etc. etc.):

Step 4 - become the dominant program in the Dakotas.