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Skjellyfetti
July 26th, 2012, 01:54 PM
2012 Preseason Southern Conference Polls

Coaches Poll
1. Georgia Southern (7) 63
2. Appalachian State (2) 57
3. Wofford 48
4. Chattanooga 44
5. Furman 36
6. Samford 27
7. Elon 24
8. The Citadel 17
9. Western Carolina 8

Media Poll

Media Poll
School (First-place votes) Points School (First-place votes)
Points
1. Georgia Southern (25) 266
2. Wofford (4) 225
3. Appalachian State (1) 223
4. Chattanooga 163
5. Furman 152
6. Samford 105
7. Elon 104
8. The Citadel 79
9. Western Carolina 36




2012 Southern Conference Preseason All-Conference Teams

First-Team Offense

QB Jamal Jackson Appalachian State
RB Jerodis Williams Furman
RB Eric Breitenstein Wofford
OL Mike Sellers The Citadel
OL Dakota Dozier Furman
OL Dorian Byrd Georgia Southern
OL Ryan Dudchock Samford
OL Jake Miles Wofford
TE Colin Anderson Furman
WR Aaron Mellette Elon
WR Kelsey Pope Samford


First-Team Defense

DL Chris Billingslea The Citadel
DL Josh Lynn Furman
DL Brent Russell Georgia Southern
DL Josh Williams Chattanooga
LB Jeremy Kimbrough Appalachian State
LB Wes Dothard Chattanooga
LB Alvin Scioneaux Wofford
DB Demetrius McCray Appalachian State
DB Greg Worthy Furman
DB Deion Stanley Georgia Southern
DB D.J. Key Chattanooga


First-Team Specialists

PK Cameron Yaw Samford
P Cass Couey The Citadel
RS Fabian Truss Samford


Second-Team Offense

QB Thomas Wilson Elon
RB Darien Robinson The Citadel
RB Fabien Truss Samford
OL Kendall Lamm Appalachian State
OL Blake Debartola Georgia Southern
OL Charlie Sanford Samford
OL Adam Miller Chattanooga
OL Jared Singleton Wofford
OL Calvin Cantrell Wofford
TE Faysal Shafaat Chattanooga
WR Andrew Peacock Appalachian State
WR Tony Washington Appalachian State


Second-Team Defense

DL Ronald Blair Appalachian State
DL Derek Douglas The Citadel
DL Tony Thompson Elon
DL Nick Williams Samford
DL Davis Tull Chattanooga
LB Brandon Grier Appalachian State
LB Mitch McGrath Furman
LB Darius Eubanks Georgia Southern
LB Rock Williams Western Carolina
DB Troy Sanders Appalachian State
DB Alvin Hines II Samford
DB Kadeem Wise Chattanooga
DB Nathan Wade Furman


Second-Team Specialists


PK Nick Pollard Chattanooga
P Sam Martin Appalachian State
RS Darreion Robinson Georgia Southern

FCS_pwns_FBS
July 26th, 2012, 02:32 PM
When was the last time App. was not the preseason #1? 2005?

EKU-n-GSU
July 26th, 2012, 02:34 PM
Solid...I think we'll have a few more players on 1st/2nd teams by the season's end.

Skjellyfetti
July 26th, 2012, 03:46 PM
When was the last time App. was not the preseason #1? 2005?

2011. Media picked us 2nd.

SpeedkingATL
July 26th, 2012, 03:53 PM
Hope the polls underrate App by season's end, but the Coach's Poll is about how I would rank them preseason. I know GaSo, App and UTC are going to all be pretty tough to move the ball against if healthy.

Apphole
July 26th, 2012, 04:02 PM
Hope the polls underrate App by season's end, but the Coach's Poll is about how I would rank them preseason. I know GaSo, App and UTC are going to all be pretty tough to move the ball against if healthy.

I'm not too worried about the Chatty defense. We're lacking a TE with hands and the O-line is questionable, but now we actually have an offensive play caller that can tell his *** from a hole in the ground. The new staff at UTC will not be adequately prepared for a Satterfield offense that early in the season. They'll only have one conference game on which to watch film at that point in the season.

Scott Satterfield is overqualified to be an FCS O Coordinator. Before he ends up a head coach for an FBS App State, he's going to once again have a field day with the SoCon D Coordinators.

GaSo is a totally different animal. There's actually an atmosphere in Stinkboro that will compliment a tough defense, unlike chatty. I'll bet we go 1-1 against GaSo/UTC, taking the L to the Stink again.

chattownmocs
July 26th, 2012, 04:32 PM
I'm not too worried about the Chatty defense. We're lacking a TE with hands and the O-line is questionable, but now we actually have an offensive play caller that can tell his *** from a hole in the ground. The new staff at UTC will not be adequately prepared for a Satterfield offense that early in the season. They'll only have one conference game on which to watch film at that point in the season.

Scott Satterfield is overqualified to be an FCS O Coordinator. Before he ends up a head coach for an FBS App State, he's going to once again have a field day with the SoCon D Coordinators.

GaSo is a totally different animal. There's actually an atmosphere in Stinkboro that will compliment a tough defense, unlike chatty. I'll bet we go 1-1 against GaSo/UTC, taking the L to the Stink again.


The new O-line and RB coaches are really going to be in over their heads against the great Satterfield lol. The only new coach on defense is the safeties coach. Be serious. Chattanooga was tops in most categories and it wasn't just the App State game that put them there.

eaglesrback
July 26th, 2012, 04:35 PM
I'm not too worried about the Chatty defense. We're lacking a TE with hands and the O-line is questionable, but now we actually have an offensive play caller that can tell his *** from a hole in the ground. The new staff at UTC will not be adequately prepared for a Satterfield offense that early in the season. They'll only have one conference game on which to watch film at that point in the season.

Scott Satterfield is overqualified to be an FCS O Coordinator. Before he ends up a head coach for an FBS App State, he's going to once again have a field day with the SoCon D Coordinators.

GaSo is a totally different animal. There's actually an atmosphere in Stinkboro that will compliment a tough defense, unlike chatty. I'll bet we go 1-1 against GaSo/UTC, taking the L to the Stink again.

We have a young defensive backfield, if they dont grow up quick, we may get in a hole early in the season, not very worried about the d front.Right now, we dont even know who our Quarterback is! By the way, you better worry about the Chatty Quarterback. He's quick. I dont think he played against App last year did he?

chattanoogamocs
July 26th, 2012, 04:41 PM
We have a young defensive backfield, if they dont grow up quick, we may get in a hole early in the season, not very worried about the d front.Right now, we dont even know who our Quarterback is! By the way, you better worry about the Chatty Quarterback. He's quick. I dont think he played against App last year did he?

Nope...Coleman stayed in the game and got beat to death.

asumike83
July 26th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Nope...Coleman stayed in the game and got beat to death.

That is one tough kid. You definitely can't question that. His O-Line hung him out to dry that day and he stuck it out after taking a serious beating.

whoanellie
July 26th, 2012, 05:26 PM
What? BJ Coleman still made 3rd team pre-season team?


Nope...Coleman stayed in the game and got beat to death.

eaglesrback
July 26th, 2012, 07:55 PM
Coleman looked really good when came in last year againist us! Kid is dangerous!

ElCid
July 26th, 2012, 10:48 PM
Coaches Poll
1. Georgia Southern (7) 63
2. Appalachian State (2) 57
3. Wofford 48
4. Chattanooga 44
5. Furman 36
6. Samford 27
7. Elon 24
8. The Citadel 17
9. Western Carolina 8

Media Poll

Media Poll
school (First-place votes) Points
1. Georgia Southern (25) 266
2. Wofford (4) 225
3. Appalachian State (1) 223
4. Chattanooga 163
5. Furman 152
6. Samford 105
7. Elon 104
8. The Citadel 79
9. Western Carolina 36
I really can't stand coaches or media who simply look at last years results and play it safe without much analysis and simply shift a spot or two. Some glaring miscalculations. No doubt Eagles will do well, probably Wofford also. but my Cid Dogs too low. App St and Chatt overrated. Middle of pack will be dog fight but votes are unrealistic. Wofford, App, Chatt, Furman, Cit all within 1-2 games. Samford a little off, Elon and WC in the cellar.

T-Dog
July 26th, 2012, 11:23 PM
If UTC is to break through, they have to do it this year. They got the defense to give them a chance every game. They got GSU and ASU at home. It's all on the QB play.

chattownmocs
July 27th, 2012, 07:50 AM
If UTC is to break through, they have to do it this year. They got the defense to give them a chance every game. They got GSU and ASU at home. It's all on the QB play.

They will have about 19 starters back again. They are a Sophomore and junior laden team. Last year outside of 5 or 6 really solid seniors they were a Freshman and Sophomore laden team...Let's look at Chattanooga's likely starting rotation to debunk this myth..

QB-Sophomore
RB-Sophomore
FB-Sophomore
TE-Sophomore
WR-Junior
WR-Sophomore
OL-Senior
OL-Junior
OL-Sophomore
OL Freshman
OL-Sophomore

DE-Senior
DT-Junior
DT-Sophomore
DE-Sophomore
LB-Senior
LB-Junior
LB-Junior
CB-Junior
CB-Junior
S- Junior
S-Freshman

This team is young. 1 Senior on offense, 2 on defense.

AppStsGr8
July 27th, 2012, 07:57 AM
We have a young defensive backfield, if they dont grow up quick, we may get in a hole early in the season, not very worried about the d front.Right now, we dont even know who our Quarterback is! By the way, you better worry about the Chatty Quarterback. He's quick. I dont think he played against App last year did he?

Coleman played the virtually the entire game. Several of the UTC fans who joined our tailgate were saying they believed Coleman's backup was more versatile than Coleman and was really the better QB. Certainly, Coleman stood in there and took a beating last year; gotta give him credit for toughness.

asumike83
July 27th, 2012, 08:04 AM
They will have about 19 starters back again. They are a Sophomore and junior laden team. Last year outside of 5 or 6 really solid seniors they were a Freshman and Sophomore laden team...Let's look at Chattanooga's likely starting rotation to debunk this myth..

QB-Sophomore
RB-Sophomore
FB-Sophomore
TE-Sophomore
WR-Junior
WR-Sophomore
OL-Senior
OL-Junior
OL-Sophomore
OL Freshman
OL-Sophomore

DE-Senior
DT-Junior
DT-Sophomore
DE-Sophomore
LB-Senior
LB-Junior
LB-Junior
CB-Junior
CB-Junior
S- Junior
S-Freshman

This team is young. 1 Senior on offense, 2 on defense.

He did say that this is the year because along with a strong defense, they have ASU/GSU at home. They've got to travel to Boone and Statesboro in 2014 which are tough places to win. If they're going to step up and be the dominant team we've been hearing about this offseason and last, this is their best shot.

chattownmocs
July 27th, 2012, 08:08 AM
Coleman played the virtually the entire game. Several of the UTC fans who joined our tailgate were saying they believed Coleman's backup was more versatile than Coleman and was really the better QB. Certainly, Coleman stood in there and took a beating last year; gotta give him credit for toughness.

He threw for 270 yards, albeit on a lot of attempts. The first int was not his fault and the 2nd was desperation. He is fighting for the backup QB position on the Green Bay Packers.

chattownmocs
July 27th, 2012, 08:10 AM
He did say that this is the year because along with a strong defense, they have ASU/GSU at home. They've got to travel to Boone and Statesboro in 2014 which are tough places to win. If they're going to step up and be the dominant team we've been hearing about this offseason and last, this is their best shot.

So if they do win the SOCON this year and return 19 starters next year, they won't be the favorite because they have to go to Boone and Statesboro? Lol.

asumike83
July 27th, 2012, 08:15 AM
So if they do win the SOCON this year and return 19 starters next year, they won't be the favorite because they have to go to Boone and Statesboro? Lol.

If they win the conference this year, I'm sure they would be picked as the favorite in 2013. That doesn't mean the road to a championship won't be a lot tougher when they have to travel to the two toughest venues in the conference.

chattownmocs
July 27th, 2012, 08:18 AM
If they win the conference this year, I'm sure they would be picked as the favorite in 2014. That doesn't mean the road to a championship won't be a lot tougher when they have to travel to the two toughest venues in the conference.

Whatever their chances are this year, they will be higher in 2013. Where the games are played means next to nothing. As a amatter of fact Chattanooga has probably played better on the road than they have at home. Maybe it cancels that whole theory out. Year 2 in the offense next year with 10 starters back will in itself override any scheduling advantages/disadvantages.

Saint3333
July 27th, 2012, 08:36 AM
So if they do win the SOCON this year Lol.

fixed it

GlassOnion
July 27th, 2012, 08:39 AM
Where the games are played means next to nothing. As a a matter of fact Chattanooga has probably played better on the road than they have at home. Maybe it cancels that whole theory out.


There you have it, Chatty plays better on the road, and the numbers support it. 3-3 on the road, 2-3 at home.

App and GaSo will beat Chatty at home this year, and next year when Chattown has App and GSU exactly where he wants them, in KBS and Paulson, that will be Chatty's year.

chattownmocs
July 27th, 2012, 08:49 AM
There you have it, Chatty plays better on the road, and the numbers support it. 3-3 on the road, 2-3 at home.

App and GaSo will beat Chatty at home this year, and next year when Chattown has App and GSU exactly where he wants them, in KBS and Paulson, that will be Chatty's year.

Chattanooga will probably win 3 of those 4 games.

GlassOnion
July 27th, 2012, 08:55 AM
Since Chatty is horrible at home against the middle pack SoCon teams, they must be doubley horrible against the top teams. I'll give you Elon and Samford. App, GSU and Glenville will smack down the road warrior Mocs in Finley.

Apphole
July 27th, 2012, 10:48 AM
He threw for 270 yards, albeit on a lot of attempts. The first int was not his fault and the 2nd was desperation. He is fighting for the backup QB position on the Green Bay Packers.

But he's better than Aaron Rogers, right?

chattownmocs
July 27th, 2012, 11:02 AM
But he's better than Aaron Rogers, right?

He is better than Graham Harrell.

PaladinFan
July 27th, 2012, 11:28 AM
Whatever their chances are this year, they will be higher in 2013. Where the games are played means next to nothing. As a amatter of fact Chattanooga has probably played better on the road than they have at home. Maybe it cancels that whole theory out. Year 2 in the offense next year with 10 starters back will in itself override any scheduling advantages/disadvantages.

As far as Furman is concerned, UTC has played Furman better on the road. Over the past 20 years, UTC is 1-10 against Furman in Chattanooga, and 2-7 against them in Greenville.

CID1990
July 27th, 2012, 11:31 AM
As far as Furman is concerned, UTC has played Furman better on the road. Over the past 20 years, UTC is 1-10 against Furman in Chattanooga, and 2-7 against them in Greenville.

Those are some impressively dominant stats considering you were playing one of the elite SoCon teams.

PaladinFan
July 27th, 2012, 02:11 PM
Those are some impressively dominant stats considering you were playing one of the elite SoCon teams.

17-3 over 20 seasons is impressive regardless of the opponent. If there's a more one sided series between two teams that play every year, I would like to see it.

Most of the games really have not even been close. Over that time Furman has won by an average of two touchdowns per game.

Skjellyfetti
July 27th, 2012, 02:15 PM
If there's a more one sided series between two teams that play every year, I would like to see it.

Battle for the Old Mountain Jug

App is 25-2 since 1985

chattownmocs
July 27th, 2012, 02:28 PM
17-3 over 20 seasons is impressive regardless of the opponent. If there's a more one sided series between two teams that play every year, I would like to see it.

Most of the games really have not even been close. Over that time Furman has won by an average of two touchdowns per game.

Unfortunately Chattanooga has better players, coaches, and a better program right now so the trend is likely to be reversed.

CID1990
July 27th, 2012, 03:47 PM
17-3 over 20 seasons is impressive regardless of the opponent. If there's a more one sided series between two teams that play every year, I would like to see it.

Most of the games really have not even been close. Over that time Furman has won by an average of two touchdowns per game.

Yes, impressive against any team, but particularly impressive against the most talented team in the world.

Horseshoe App
July 27th, 2012, 08:15 PM
Unfortunately Chattanooga has better players, coaches, and a better program right now so the trend is likely to be reversed.
And who says Chattanooga has a better program than Furman? I believe this is only you. Will you please eat the crow sandwich this year when Chattanooga reverts to it normal self? You sure wouldn't last year. I suspect you will turn silent again by early October. Just sayin!!!

WUTNDITWAA
July 27th, 2012, 10:18 PM
17-3 over 20 seasons is impressive regardless of the opponent. If there's a more one sided series between two teams that play every year, I would like to see it.

Most of the games really have not even been close. Over that time Furman has won by an average of two touchdowns per game.


App is 24-3 against UTC since the 1985 season. But they did kick our ***** once during the Carter administration.

T-Dog
July 28th, 2012, 01:18 AM
They will have about 19 starters back again. They are a Sophomore and junior laden team. Last year outside of 5 or 6 really solid seniors they were a Freshman and Sophomore laden team...Let's look at Chattanooga's likely starting rotation to debunk this myth..

QB-Sophomore
RB-Sophomore
FB-Sophomore
TE-Sophomore
WR-Junior
WR-Sophomore
OL-Senior
OL-Junior
OL-Sophomore
OL Freshman
OL-Sophomore

DE-Senior
DT-Junior
DT-Sophomore
DE-Sophomore
LB-Senior
LB-Junior
LB-Junior
CB-Junior
CB-Junior
S- Junior
S-Freshman

This team is young. 1 Senior on offense, 2 on defense.

My view is that if UTC doesn't make the playoffs, they will get that label of being under-achievers and that will effect morale.

blueballs
July 28th, 2012, 08:11 AM
My view is that if UTC doesn't make the playoffs, they will get that label of being under-achievers and that will effect morale.

Very much so... this is their year. No excuses.

But in my mind just making the playoffs isn't enough. Winning the conference with no more than one loss and making a deep (at least semi-final) playoff run is the only thing acceptable.

They've got their two biggest challengers at home and return more than anybody in the conference. The deck is stacked for them more than any time in their history.

If Jeff Monken can take a 5-6 team full of run and shoot players, install a completely new system, and make the semi-finals in consecutive years then why can't the almighty Heussman do at least the same or better?

The time for choking, excuses, and whining is over in Chattanooga. Nothing less than an outright conference title and top 4 national finish is acceptable. They've all talked the talk, now let's see them walk the walk the way App and GSU has.