Lindys FCS Top 25 and All-America Teams Out

[smallcollegefbfan]

Top 25
1. SHSU
2. NDSU
3. MONTANA ST
4. TOWSON
5. MONTANA
6. APP ST
7. GSU
8. ODU
9. EKU
10. WOFFORD
11. UNI
12. LEHIGH
13. JMU
14. BCC
15. ILL ST
16. SFA
17. UNH
18. MURRAY ST
19. HARVARD
20. YSU
21. DELAWARE
22. EWU
23. GRAMBLING ST
24. STONY BROOK
25. JACKSONVILLE ST

MVP: Shakir Bell, RB, Ind St
OFF POY: Terrance West, RB, Towson
DEF POY: Matt Evans, LB, UNH
NEWCOMER: Marcus Coker, RB, Stony Brook

They have FN Lutz on 2nd team. He got hurt and won't play. Marquis Jackson has transferred from TSU. He was on 2nd team.

[Dane96]

That...is a ****ing joke.

BETHUNE? Really Top 14.

And I don't want to hear anything to the contrary. That team is not a Top 14 pre-season team. Forgetting the suspect placement of Stony Brook...who has a superstar joining them.

[Seawolf97]

At least they didnt put Liberty at 10 or 12 . And yes Coker is going to make a huge difference this season. He is a legit NFL caliber back.

[MplsBison]

Honest to goodness question: does SHSU have most of their team coming back?

[bojeta]

That...is a ****ing joke.

BETHUNE? Really Top 14.

And I don't want to hear anything to the contrary. That team is not a Top 14 pre-season team. Forgetting the suspect placement of Stony Brook...who has a superstar joining them.

You won't hear anything to the contrary from me. In fact... I'll add Murray State, Grambling and Harvard to the list of ridiculous top 25 pics. There are at least 15 teams that deserve consideration before those teams.

[Dane96]

Agreed.

[mvemjsunpx]

Honest to goodness question: does SHSU have most of their team coming back?

They lost virtually nothing.

[Sycamore51]

Top 25
1. SHSU
2. NDSU
3. MONTANA ST
4. TOWSON
5. MONTANA
6. APP ST
7. GSU
8. ODU
9. EKU
10. WOFFORD
11. UNI
12. LEHIGH
13. JMU
14. BCC
15. ILL ST
16. SFA
17. UNH
18. MURRAY ST
19. HARVARD
20. YSU
21. DELAWARE
22. EWU
23. GRAMBLING ST
24. STONY BROOK
25. JACKSONVILLE ST

MVP: Shakir Bell, RB, Ind St
OFF POY: Terrance West, RB, Towson
DEF POY: Matt Evans, LB, UNH
NEWCOMER: Marcus Coker, RB, Stony Brook

They have FN Lutz on 2nd team. He got hurt and won't play. Marquis Jackson has transferred from TSU. He was on 2nd team.
I hadn't heard that Lutz wasn't going to be able to go. I knew he got hurt during the spring game, but boy that he was out for the year.

[frozennorth]

since when has murray state had football? xcoffeex

[frozennorth]

They lost virtually nothing.

the main concern re: shsu is coaching turnover, 2 bcs games, 1 non-counter, and only 3 (!) home games.

that said, they should be competitive in both BCS games, and should be good enough to go 7-1 in conference at worst. However unless they manage a win against baylor or A&M, I think the best they can really hope for is a 5 seed.

[crossfire07]

Honest to goodness question: does SHSU have most of their team coming back?

They have some really good players coming back but I guess losing the mastermind behind their offense does not play into peoples minds that are doing the polls.

[kdinva]

At least they didn't put Liberty at 10 or 12 . And yes Coker is going to make a huge difference this season. He is a legit NFL caliber back.

+1.

(I have Stony Brook #8 in my AGS poll).

[MSU Catz]

SHSU certainly returns a huge amount of talent, but their schedule alone will make it tough. Without a high seed and home field for the playoffs, their road would be precarious at best. Last year they beat both UM and MSU at home, flip that around and put SHSU in Montana in December playing in 20 deg weather instead of 80 deg weather and there very well may have been a different outcome.

[EKU-n-GSU]

I don't get Murray State and Bethune in the top 25, certainly don't get EKU in the top 10, and I'd put Georgia Southern over App State at this point. We have a pretty good recruiting class coming in, and I don't think we lost as much on the defensive side of the ball as some report. Jaybo Shaw was the essence of the term 'field general' and routinely gave up his body for the extra yard. Jerrick McKinnon doesn't (as of yet) have the field presence of Shaw, but more than makes up for it with his quickness and athleticism. Plus, we've upgraded a couple of key coaching positions in the off season. Going to be an interesting year...I just hope we don't go FBS for the next 2-3 yrs...

[crossfire07]

SHSU certainly returns a huge amount of talent, but their schedule alone will make it tough. Without a high seed and home field for the playoffs, their road would be precarious at best. Last year they beat both UM and MSU at home, flip that around and put SHSU in Montana in December playing in 20 deg weather instead of 80 deg weather and there very well may have been a different outcome.
I am not one that usually believes having to travel is always the roughest road. It sure isn't the easiest but sometimes it will bring out the true character of a team.it is hard to win in Montana but then again it is just as hard for either Montana team to come south and win.they both will probably be in the playoffs but one will be traveling and the road to Frisco goes through the south.I don't recall it being 80 degrees down this way in December.
It will be an exciting year.

[MplsBison]

the main concern re: shsu is coaching turnover, 2 bcs games, 1 non-counter, and only 3 (!) home games.

that said, they should be competitive in both BCS games, and should be good enough to go 7-1 in conference at worst. However unless they manage a win against baylor or A&M, I think the best they can really hope for is a 5 seed.

They shouldn't beat either team. I guess those programs have football budgets that are probably bigger than SHSU's athletics budget.

[MplsBison]

They have some really good players coming back but I guess losing the mastermind behind their offense does not play into peoples minds that are doing the polls.

I've long lost faith in human polls.

[Redbird Ray]

I've been blasted for saying things like this on here before, but I'll say it again, Ivy, MEAC, SWAC, Pioneer, NEC and most OVC teams have absolutely no business being in this poll at all.

[Dane96]

Ok.

Guess you have been up on current events...

[MplsBison]

At least it's not like the preseason polls in the FBS, that (realistically) determine who is capable of being ranked #1 or #2 in the BCS.

[Sammy94]

the main concern re: shsu is coaching turnover, 2 bcs games, 1 non-counter, and only 3 (!) home games.


They have some really good players coming back but I guess losing the mastermind behind their offense does not play into peoples minds that are doing the polls.

The two biggest concerns are staying healthy and the schedule. Thanks to TxSt dropping us to play Navy at the last minute we had to pick up a much tougher A&M team. The schedule is what it is. 3 home games isn't a worry as we will actually have 5. The 2 games in Houston will draw more Kat supporters then the 3 in Huntsville. I think we lose games to Baylor and A&M. Cent. Arky will be a weaker team this year and McNeese we get at home(Huntsville) for homecoming so another undefeated run through conference is very realistic.
On the coaching front, I actually believe we have a better OC coming in. I believe the offense will actually be better with the schemes added like more of a passing attack and no-huddle. After watching the offense score 6 td's (without Flanders playing) against a pretty good defense in the spring game helps confirm that for me. The defense has not lost a step and has improved with the transfer from Boise St. We will have one of the best secondary in the country. It's going to be a very exciting year around here with all Sam has returning.

[UMaineD]

Delaware and JMU on the list from CAA and no mention on Maine....hmmmm

[Humble Steward]

That...is a ****ing joke.

BETHUNE? Really Top 14.

And I don't want to hear anything to the contrary. That team is not a Top 14 pre-season team. Forgetting the suspect placement of Stony Brook...who has a superstar joining them.

I will have to agree with you on being ranked in the top 15 in this poll. However, we are definitely worthy of a top 25 consideration. Based on how we finished last season (6 consecutive wins) and number of returning players, I think justifies being at least ranked. Remember this is just a preseason poll, no games have been played. I do think that some of you need to reaccess B-CU football program and look at what coach Brian Jenkins is building in Daytona Beach. We finished last year just outside of the top 25 in some polls and people are starting to take notice of our recruiting and coaching staff. We had 3 coaches this year snapped up by other teams and several offers to other coaches. So being ranked was Nice to see, but we all know that we have to play the games. Wildcats, let's focus on going into the season healthy and eliminating turnovers and penalties. The rest will take care of itself.

Alabama St you are the clock: xnodx


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[Humble Steward]

I've been blasted for saying things like this on here before, but I'll say it again, Ivy, MEAC, SWAC, Pioneer, NEC and most OVC teams have absolutely no business being in this poll at all.

I will have to say you are definitely close minded with a statement like this. There are several teams that have every right to be in this poll and worth consideration. Also, at the end of the season some of these teams from these conferences will be ranked and well justified. But you are entitled to your opinion, just realize that these conferences play football and are apart of the FCS too. B-CU is here to play.

[Dane96]

I will have to agree with you on being ranked in the top 15 in this poll. However, we are definitely worthy of a top 25 consideration. Based on how we finished last season (6 consecutive wins) and number of returning players, I think justifies being at least ranked. Remember this is just a preseason poll, no games have been played. I do think that some of you need to reaccess B-CU football program and look at what coach Brian Jenkins is building in Daytona Beach. We finished last year just outside of the top 25 in some polls and people are starting to take notice of our recruiting and coaching staff. We had 3 coaches this year snapped up by other teams and several offers to other coaches. So being ranked was Nice to see, but we all know that we have to play the games. Wildcats, let's focus on going into the season healthy and eliminating turnovers and penalties. The rest will take care of itself.

Alabama St you are the clock: xnodx


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I don't disagree with a 20-25 ranking...because those are interchangeable and it is a pre-season poll. But yes, a Top 20 ranking and less (to 14) plus the inclusion of Harvard and Murray State, etc....made me laugh.

That said, I am familiar with what is going on down in Daytona...but on the field performances matter. I watched three Bethune games last year...and I was not impressed though conversely, not disappointed.

[asumike83]

I will have to say you are definitely close minded with a statement like this. There are several teams that have every right to be in this poll and worth consideration. Also, at the end of the season some of these teams from these conferences will be ranked and well justified. But you are entitled to your opinion, just realize that these conferences play football and are apart of the FCS too. B-CU is here to play.

After losing to FAMU in the playoffs ('99 I believe?) and the tough games we got from SCSU in '08-'09, I will not take the top teams in the MEAC lightly. The bottom half of the conference is typically pretty weak but the top teams can definitely play. Usually get a tough draw though. Makes it hard to win in the playoffs when your first game is on the road against a top 5 team.

[FanofFCS]

Keep this in mind. They are referred to as preseason polls, but to the preseason selectors (especially the magazines), it's their idea of how teams will finish at the end of the season. Thus, Lindy's thinks Sam Houston will win the national title and a team like Bethune-Cookman will be 14th-best at the end of the season - not the beginning.

[UMaineD]

where can I find the entire list of Lidys All American list?

[Humble Steward]

I don't disagree with a 20-25 ranking...because those are interchangeable and it is a pre-season poll. But yes, a Top 20 ranking and less (to 14) plus the inclusion of Harvard and Murray State, etc....made me laugh.

That said, I am familiar with what is going on down in Daytona...but on the field performances matter. I watched three Bethune games last year...and I was not impressed though conversely, not disappointed.

That's fair, I got a feeling we might impress you this year. On field performances is where it counts and our goal isn't just to win the MEAC.

[crossfire07]

The two biggest concerns are staying healthy and the schedule. Thanks to TxSt dropping us to play Navy at the last minute we had to pick up a much tougher A&M team. The schedule is what it is. 3 home games isn't a worry as we will actually have 5. The 2 games in Houston will draw more Kat supporters then the 3 in Huntsville. I think we lose games to Baylor and A&M. Cent. Arky will be a weaker team this year and McNeese we get at home(Huntsville) for homecoming so another undefeated run through conference is very realistic.
On the coaching front, I actually believe we have a better OC coming in. I believe the offense will actually be better with the schemes added like more of a passing attack and no-huddle. After watching the offense score 6 td's (without Flanders playing) against a pretty good defense in the spring game helps confirm that for me. The defense has not lost a step and has improved with the transfer from Boise St. We will have one of the best secondary in the country. It's going to be a very exciting year around here with all Sam has returning.
It is possible to go through conference undefeated but the odds are against you. SFA will be a contender and will pose a risk and just because you have McNeese at home is not a promised win. The NC game showed everybody the way to stop Sam but things will be different if they use a qb this year that can get the ball to a receiver.It will be hard to stay up for every conference game with a bulls eye on your back but Sam doing well and others in the conference that will do well too will make for an exciting season. I hope to be able to meet you with you before the game and do some tailgating. I've always enjoyed my trips to Huntsville.

[Sammy94]

I hope to be able to meet you with you before the game and do some tailgating.

Sounds like a plan. I save money by not going to Lake Charles. I just can't drive by the casino and not stop. xcrazyx

[eiu1999]

I'm all for the OVC getting good news, but EKU #9????

[WileECoyote06]

I've been blasted for saying things like this on here before, but I'll say it again, Ivy, MEAC, SWAC, Pioneer, NEC and most OVC teams have absolutely no business being in this poll at all.

lol. . okay. Hey yall let's pack it up and go to division II. FCS will be fine with a four team championship. Two semifinal bowl games featuring the Missouri Valley vs the Big Sky and the CAA vs the SoCon.

Nothing else to see here. . .

[MplsBison]

lol. . okay. Hey yall let's pack it up and go to division II. FCS will be fine with a four team championship. Two semifinal bowl games featuring the Missouri Valley vs the Big Sky and the CAA vs the SoCon.

Nothing else to see here. . .

Well?

What programs in the other non-"big 4" conferences, if you will, have made the same type of investment in football? Not saying there aren't any or aren't many, even. Who do you think are teams in those other conferences (excluding Ivy, obviously) that have made that type of investment?

[WileECoyote06]

Well?

What programs in the other non-"big 4" conferences, if you will, have made the same type of investment in football? Not saying there aren't any or aren't many, even. Who do you think are teams in those other conferences (excluding Ivy, obviously) that have made that type of investment?

Your investment is reflected in on the field performance right? Then what's the problem with allowing someone else to have a ranking in a poll? A poll that probably only 3% of Americans read anyway? But hey, you always have FBS if you feel slighted.

xthumbsupx xsmiley_wix

[MplsBison]

Your investment is reflected in on the field performance right? Then what's the problem with allowing someone else to have a ranking in a poll? A poll that probably only 3% of Americans read anyway? But hey, you always have FBS if you feel slighted.

xthumbsupx xsmiley_wix

No, no, no - you changed the subject from the poll (which I can't care less about) to the playoffs. "FCS will be fine with a four team championship."

Be a man. Answer the question. Who are the programs that have made the investment, in your book?

[Bam]

I'm all for the OVC getting good news, but EKU #9????

Not proud of a fellow OVC'er? I agree a little high, but if the fellas stay healthy & out of trouble this summer watch out!

[WileECoyote06]

No, no, no - you changed the subject from the poll (which I can't care less about) to the playoffs. "FCS will be fine with a four team championship."

Be a man. Answer the question. Who are the programs that have made the investment, in your book?

I was also being sarcastic. The original comment was equally ridiculous. Why should I answer the question when my comment was made tongue-in-cheek?

lol @ be a man. What was the point of that?

[eiu1999]

Proud, yes. Confused, a bit.

[crossfire07]

Sounds like a plan. I save money by not going to Lake Charles. I just can't drive by the casino and not stop. xcrazyx

I stop at the casinos. Have the buffet and leave :)

[Bam]

Proud, yes. Confused, a bit.

It is just a pre-season poll & our fellow AGS'ers will never give props to a OVC team till someone steps up! 9th is high, but only time will tell?

[eiu1999]

It is just a pre-season poll & our fellow AGS'ers will never give props to a OVC team till someone steps up! 9th is high, but only time will tell?

True, they won't. EKU is the obvious favorite.

[MplsBison]

I was also being sarcastic. The original comment was equally ridiculous. Why should I answer the question when my comment was made tongue-in-cheek?

lol @ be a man. What was the point of that?

Forget everything then. Pretend it's an entirely new thread, answer this "Who are the programs that have made the investment, in your book?".

Why are you trying to find excuses not to answer it? I'm not waiting to spring any kind of trap once you answer. I do think there are schools who've obviously made an investment in football, yet reside outside the power 4 conferences. Here I'll give an example: Jacksonville St.

So just answer who you think has made an equivalent investment and why.

[alvinkayak6]

Who wants to bet on EKU on finishing in the top 10 or not? Over here! Me! Me! Me!

[alvinkayak6]

Too high: Lehigh
Too low: Stony Brook
LOL: EKU
Still too low: Stony Brook
About right: Wofford
Bedbugs: Murray State
I mean come on really: Stony Brook
#1 Fiction: The team listed in #1

[Redbirdz]

Jacksonville State obviously has made an investment and has high expectations for its program.

[Sam_Kats]

All these opinions sure are great to talk about. Just play the games. Come on September!!!!!!

[cpalum]

I like Montana....I even enjoy a well played loss to Montana but honestly can somebody explain to me how with a new coach, new QB ...no more Tru etc. etc. that they are the 5th best team in the country?

Maybe when the season is done that will be the case but nothing in this off season has suggested to me that they will be that good.

[Grizalltheway]

I like Montana....I even enjoy a well played loss to Montana but honestly can somebody explain to me how with a new coach, new QB ...no more Tru etc. etc. that they are the 5th best team in the country?

Maybe when the season is done that will be the case but nothing in this off season has suggested to me that they will be that good.

We still have the same QB as of now, FWIW.

[EKU-n-GSU]

My wife and I are EKU grads from back in the days of Roy Kidd and two national championships. Those were exciting times for the football - and basketball - programs. From my perspective, EKU has gone through too many coaching changes in the past decade and a half to have anything close to their late 70's/early 80's swagger. Time will tell, and I'd like to see them make the playoffs, if only to have a shot at my son who plays for Georgia Southern. Go Eagles!

[SumItUp]

Well?

What programs in the other non-"big 4" conferences, if you will, have made the same type of investment in football? Not saying there aren't any or aren't many, even. Who do you think are teams in those other conferences (excluding Ivy, obviously) that have made that type of investment?

Don't take the bait....don't take the bait....don't take the bait........

Do you think that only teams from those four conferences make an investment in their football program? Liberty has made the investment in coaching staff, facilities, recruiting, etc... and its budget exceeds the majority of schools from the four conferences.

[WWGSUEAGLE]

Top 25
1. SHSU
2. NDSU
3. MONTANA ST
4. TOWSON
5. MONTANA
6. APP ST
7. GSU
8. ODU
9. EKU
10. WOFFORD
11. UNI
12. LEHIGH
13. JMU
14. BCC
15. ILL ST
16. SFA
17. UNH
18. MURRAY ST
19. HARVARD
20. YSU
21. DELAWARE
22. EWU
23. GRAMBLING ST
24. STONY BROOK
25. JACKSONVILLE ST

MVP: Shakir Bell, RB, Ind St
OFF POY: Terrance West, RB, Towson
DEF POY: Matt Evans, LB, UNH
NEWCOMER: Marcus Coker, RB, Stony Brook

They have FN Lutz on 2nd team. He got hurt and won't play. Marquis Jackson has transferred from TSU. He was on 2nd team.

Ga state or Ga southern?

xlmaox

[ekufbfan]

Don't understand all this hate (sarcasm?) for EKU. We are certainly not a "LOL" team. This is a PRE season poll, only time will tell where EKU (or anyone else) will finish. I can tell you we have a LOT of kids coming back, second year with the OC and a head coach who got his feet wet last year in the playoffs and hopefully learned a lot from that. One thing that we realized a long time ago at EKU during the 80's and 90's success is that not only do you have to have a great atheletes and cohesive team , you got to have a little luck on on your side (hopefully we will have all three this year).
GSU-EKU grad keep a little love for your alma mater (understand th GSU thing with a son on the team). But you can not have expeienced the Roy Kidd days and not love EKU football!! xnodx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

We still have the same QB as of now, FWIW.

Yes, and pretty much that same thing could have been said in last years poll even though I agree that MT is ranked too high. Just sayin'...

Pjlu was in his second year of an entirrely new system with a new qb last year and made a run. The system is the same, the qb (at this time) is the same, the coach is changed but was there, the defense looks like we lost a ton but in reality there is a whole lot of experience and game minutes back this year.

The losses could be treacherous but to me it's a coin flip if they will be or not.

[MplsBison]

Don't take the bait....don't take the bait....don't take the bait........

Do you think that only teams from those four conferences make an investment in their football program? Liberty has made the investment in coaching staff, facilities, recruiting, etc... and its budget exceeds the majority of schools from the four conferences.

Just out of curiosity, what is total salaries paid to Liberty's football coaching staff?

[cpalum]

Yes, and pretty much that same thing could have been said in last years poll even though I agree that MT is ranked too high. Just sayin'...

Pjlu was in his second year of an entirrely new system with a new qb last year and made a run. The system is the same, the qb (at this time) is the same, the coach is changed but was there, the defense looks like we lost a ton but in reality there is a whole lot of experience and game minutes back this year.

The losses could be treacherous but to me it's a coin flip if they will be or not.


Montana has earned the respect that they get cause they always finish high; I just cant quite reconcile 5th. Top 10.... OK but 5th seems high. Now Cal Poly not being in the top 25.....that is just flat ridiculous.

[crossfire07]

All these opinions sure are great to talk about. Just play the games. Come on September!!!!!!

Best post of this thread and some others :)

[EKU-n-GSU]

Don't take the bait....don't take the bait....don't take the bait........

Do you think that only teams from those four conferences make an investment in their football program? Liberty has made the investment in coaching staff, facilities, recruiting, etc... and its budget exceeds the majority of schools from the four conferences.

Interesting comment. Georgia Southern is exploring options to go FBS in the next 2-3 yrs; even with their outstanding record the past two years and their history, they spend less on the football program (scholarship-wise) than 7 of the 9 teams in the SoCon. This is a fact - they would need another +$4M to 'break-even' with the conference top spenders. Moving to FBS would only fill in the next set of holes, not create a windfall for the coaching staff/university...

[EKU-n-GSU]

Don't understand all this hate (sarcasm?) for EKU. We are certainly not a "LOL" team. This is a PRE season poll, only time will tell where EKU (or anyone else) will finish. I can tell you we have a LOT of kids coming back, second year with the OC and a head coach who got his feet wet last year in the playoffs and hopefully learned a lot from that. One thing that we realized a long time ago at EKU during the 80's and 90's success is that not only do you have to have a great atheletes and cohesive team , you got to have a little luck on on your side (hopefully we will have all three this year).
GSU-EKU grad keep a little love for your alma mater (understand th GSU thing with a son on the team). But you can not have expeienced the Roy Kidd days and not love EKU football!! xnodx

I do still love EKU football. Still love the school, too. Wifey played volleyball there ('79 thru '82); spent many a night (and too much money) at the Family Dog not to still love it. Dad still lives in Richmond as well - it's home when I'm not in GA. EKU recruited my son to play DE, and I would have given anything for him to go there, but he woudln't have had the FCS championship opportunities there that he has at GA Southern. FWIW - I played football and b'ball with Roy Kidd's two sons; they live (still do!) in my Dad's neighborhood. Great guy - lost in the annals of sports history as the 5th all-time winningest Div. 1 football coach...amazing record.

[Eaglesrus]

My wife and I are EKU grads from back in the days of Roy Kidd and two national championships. Those were exciting times for the football - and basketball - programs. From my perspective, EKU has gone through too many coaching changes in the past decade and a half to have anything close to their late 70's/early 80's swagger. Time will tell, and I'd like to see them make the playoffs, if only to have a shot at my son who plays for Georgia Southern. Go Eagles!

Look forward to seeing your son on the field in a few months!

[Humble Steward]

Just out of curiosity, what is total salaries paid to Liberty's football coaching staff?

I don't know, but they paid our QB coach enough to lure him away from B-CU. We will miss Joe Dailey, but we wish him much success at Liberty.

[EKU-n-GSU]

@eaglesrus;
He's #58, a rising sophomore, plays left offensive tackle - just turned 19 and is now 6'-5" and just shy of a no-fat 260 lbs. Small for a tackle at the FBS level, but runs a sub-4.8 forty and is a perfect fit for the option. One of two of the nine OL that were signed last year that weren't red-shirted, he played in seven games (4 games were 3+ quarters) before a knee injury right before the Wofford game. Loves the game and the school! Perhaps we'll see you tailgating @ Paulson!

[Eaglesrus]

@eaglesrus;
He's #58, a rising sophomore, plays left offensive tackle - just turned 19 and is now 6'-5" and just shy of a no-fat 260 lbs. Small for a tackle at the FBS level, but runs a sub-4.8 forty and is a perfect fit for the option. One of two of the nine OL that were signed last year that weren't red-shirted, he played in seven games (4 games were 3+ quarters) before a knee injury right before the Wofford game. Loves the game and the school! Perhaps we'll see you tailgating @ Paulson!

Thanks, I really appreciate the info and already appreciate your son's contributions. I take it the knee is good? Sure hope that's an accurate assumption. You're right, those measurements and stats sound perfect for our O-linemen; a little taller than most, which I like. We're on row L (first row of the large tailgate area) space 18 (third in from the middle aisle, on the left when looking out from the stadium). Would love to see you there sometime!

[alvinkayak6]

Don't understand all this hate (sarcasm?) for EKU. We are certainly not a "LOL" team. This is a PRE season poll, only time will tell where EKU (or anyone else) will finish. I can tell you we have a LOT of kids coming back, second year with the OC and a head coach who got his feet wet last year in the playoffs and hopefully learned a lot from that. One thing that we realized a long time ago at EKU during the 80's and 90's success is that not only do you have to have a great atheletes and cohesive team , you got to have a little luck on on your side (hopefully we will have all three this year).
GSU-EKU grad keep a little love for your alma mater (understand th GSU thing with a son on the team). But you can not have expeienced the Roy Kidd days and not love EKU football!! xnodx

LOL wasn't for EKU it was the preseason ranking of them at nine. A signature loss to Kansas State by 3 is impressive. But I think we all wanted a little more out of the Austin Peay game.

[ekufbfan]

LOL wasn't for EKU it was the preseason ranking of them at nine. A signature loss to Kansas State by 3 is impressive. But I think we all wanted a little more out of the Austin Peay game.

yeah, that lost to Peay was a real head scratcher and bummer for sure xchinscratchx



EKU-GSU: Most of the college bars in downown Richmond have been closed, the city "fathers" had "better ideas for development" and have now killed business downtown xcrazyx
I agree that GSU may give your son a better chance for NC than at EKU. Coach Kidd developed a great program at EKU and unfortunately the leadership (Funderburke..remember him?) DID NOT take advantage of that early on while others moved on (wku, MTSU, Marshall to name a few). The shame is that we still have a administration that just does not seem to "get it"!
The problem at EKU and Richmond is nucklehead and self serving leadership.

[NHwildEcat]

UNH at 17th? I know this is a pre season poll, but that is essentially suggesting that UNH will finish around .500 for the season. I highly doubt that. Coach Mac has a great system in place which will allow for us to again qualify for the NCAAs...we are not a 17th ranked team.

[NHwildEcat]

Delaware and JMU on the list from CAA and no mention on Maine....hmmmm

Yeah, seriously...Maine is a Top 25 team without a doubt.

[andy7171]

Towson ranked #4, 7 pages of commentary, not one questioning it. WTF!?! Is this Bizzarro AGS? :D

[EKU-n-GSU]

Thanks, I really appreciate the info and already appreciate your son's contributions. I take it the knee is good? Sure hope that's an accurate assumption. You're right, those measurements and stats sound perfect for our O-linemen; a little taller than most, which I like. We're on row L (first row of the large tailgate area) space 18 (third in from the middle aisle, on the left when looking out from the stadium). Would love to see you there sometime!

The knee is very good. Don't know where we'll end up in the tailgate lot as the family of one of the freshmen OL we grouped with last year is transferring to Valdosta State. I believe the lots open up for bidding 6/1...I'll let you know. In the meantime...I've been working on setting up a Flikr site w/some pictures from his freshman year...I'll post them as soon as I figure out a bug or two w/the posting process.

[EKU-n-GSU]

yeah, that lost to Peay was a real head scratcher and bummer for sure xchinscratchx



EKU-GSU: Most of the college bars in downown Richmond have been closed, the city "fathers" had "better ideas for development" and have now killed business downtown xcrazyx
I agree that GSU may give your son a better chance for NC than at EKU. Coach Kidd developed a great program at EKU and unfortunately the leadership (Funderburke..remember him?) DID NOT take advantage of that early on while others moved on (wku, MTSU, Marshall to name a few). The shame is that we still have a administration that just does not seem to "get it"!
The problem at EKU and Richmond is nucklehead and self serving leadership.

Yep, I spent many a night (and dollar bill!) at the Family Dog, Phone Three, Poopiazzi's, J. Sutter's Mill, etc., etc. And yes I do remember the Funderburk days, as well as filled stadiums. The unfortunate mess that was the 'play-in' game with JMU this past November w/less than 3,500 people in the stands could have been corrected a long time ago. And I agree w/your comment about others moving on. The early 80's would have been the time for EKU to jump up a notch.

[MplsBison]

Towson ranked #4, 7 pages of commentary, not one questioning it. WTF!?! Is this Bizzarro AGS? :D

Must be, even Indiana St is good now.

[Sycamore51]

Must be, even Indiana St is good now. I know, you better go out and get some gloves Mpls because there's a snow storm down in hell! :D

[clenz]

Bell is great, but without Fouch ISUb won't be a top 25 team at the end of the year.

[Sycamore51]

Bell is great, but without Fouch ISUb won't be a top 25 team at the end of the year.

Fouch didn't have a great year last year. All we need is a guy who can throw for 150-200 a game and not throw picks. We need a game manager and I think we have that in Mike Perrish

[clenz]

I may be wrong, but I don't see you finishing any better than you did this year.


Bell is great, but unless you have a QB to capitalize on 8 in the box Bell isn't going to have the numbers he did, nor will the offense.


How many players do you loose from last year? I check the ISU website for about a half hour but it sucks and i didn't feel like checking the roster for seniors then going into the stats to try to find them.


Also, Fouch (from what I found) is the 3rd or 4th best QB stat wise in ISUb history.....so there's that to replace.

[Sycamore51]

We lost wr Justin Hilton, fouch, and our full back but bring back almost everybody else. Our lack a kicking game worries me much more than the loss of fouch does.

[TheRevSFA]

Eh I'll take SFA ranked.

Hopefully we wreck Sam's thoughts of coasting through conference undefeated.

[frozennorth]

Yeah, seriously...Maine is a Top 25 team without a doubt.

i flagrantly forgot maine xthumbsdownx

[MplsBison]

I may be wrong, but I don't see you finishing any better than you did this year.


Bell is great, but unless you have a QB to capitalize on 8 in the box Bell isn't going to have the numbers he did, nor will the offense.


How many players do you loose from last year? I check the ISU website for about a half hour but it sucks and i didn't feel like checking the roster for seniors then going into the stats to try to find them.


Also, Fouch (from what I found) is the 3rd or 4th best QB stat wise in ISUb history.....so there's that to replace.

Frankly, NDSU has not had a 'good' passing QB since Steve Walker graduated. They won the championship with defenses having both safeties low, knowing they were going to run up the middle. Still scored enough to win and the defense did the rest.

ISU can follow the same model. Same for any other MVFC school that wants to win! Ditch the chuck n duck, shotgun crap with a fast little QB running around, doing the little fake handoff garbage. Play real football.

[clenz]

Frankly, NDSU has not had a 'good' passing QB since Steve Walker graduated. They won the championship with defensing having both safeties low, knowing they were going to run up the middle. Still scored enough to win and the defense did the rest.

ISU can follow the same model. Same for any other MVFC school that wants to win! Ditch the chuck n duck, shotgun crap with a fast little QB running around, doing the little fake handoff garbage. Play real football.Jensen can throw if he needs too....and had some experience before last season, did he not?

Fouch was ISU's QB for 2 or 3 years with very little back up action - especially from who the have on the roster I'd bet. They are all freshman and sophomores. NDSU also had one of the top defenses in country and two very good backs.


ISU has an average defense and one running back.

[MplsBison]

Not saying you're wrong. Just saying the model is clear: NDSU. Get a dominating defense, play a conservative, base scheme. Run the ball with a large offensive line and multiple talented backs, throw the ball only when you have to with high percentage throws.

Just do that.

[clenz]

Not saying you're wrong. Just saying the model is clear: NDSU. Get a dominating defense, play a conservative, base scheme. Run the ball with a large offensive line and multiple talented backs, throw the ball only when you have to with high percentage throws.

Just do that.NDSU is one of the few teams to win a title at the FCS level doing that. Nova, Richmond, ASU, EWU, etc... all ran/run wide open offenses.


ISU doesn't have another back that I was impressed with. Bell is great, but when he went out of the UNI game they were sunk. No flow to their offense at all. Their back up didn't even get 60 carries on the season....he's no longer on the team.

That means their second option this year is a guy who ran for 58 yards on 27 carries - 30 of those yards coming in 1 game against UNI in 2.5 quarters of action.


If ISU is going to rely on a run first second third and throw fourth style offense I don't want to do it with two running backs that are 5'8 180 and 5'7 170.

The only other back to record "stats" did it all against freaking Butler, 54 yards on the season.





I think/know Bell is a beast, and they don't have to play UNI but I just don't see anything better than 6-5......maybe 7-4