2012 HOF-any 1AA/FCS players

[Brad82]

Announcement came out today.
Did not see any 1-AA/FCS ballers?
Is there a seperate ballot?

[FanofFCS]

Announcement came out today.
Did not see any 1-AA/FCS ballers?
Is there a seperate ballot?

Coming May 22.

[Brad82]

do you know who is on the 1-AA ballot?

[BEAR]

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/03/01/college-football-hall-fame-class-has-38-fcs-candidates/

[Mr. C]

As a College Football Hall of Fame voter, the ballot I get has all of the names for the various categories. You get to vote for a bunch of FBS guys and then are limited to two each from FCS, D-II, D-III and NAIA. You also get to vote for two coaches from the "Small Schools" ranks. There is much about how the ballot is done and the way the National Football Foundation promotes things that I have been on public record as opposing. It is almost like the "Small Schools" guys are second-class citizens in the NFF's eyes. I'll probably write about who I voted for and why later this week on the College Sports Journal website. It was tough just voting for two FCS players this year and two FCS coaches. There were three coaches I wanted to vote for and several more players.

[Mr. C]

Here is the actual list of players from the FCS ranks:

2012 College Football Hall of Fame FCS Candidates

Archie Amerson, Northern Arizona, RB, 1995-96
Rennie Benn, Lehigh, WR, 1982-85
Carl Boyd, Northern Iowa, RB, 1985-87
Joe Campbell, Middle Tennessee State, RB, 1988-91
Bruce Collie, Texas-Arlington, OT, 1980-84
Case deBruijn, Idaho State, P, 1978-81
John Dorsey, Connecticut, LB, 1980-83
Tom Erhardt, Rhode Island, QB, 1984-85
Curtis Eller, Villanova, LB, 1989-92
Richard Erenberg, Colgate, RB, 1980-83
Don Griffin, Middle Tennessee State, S, 1982-85
Don Hass, Montana State, RB, 1965-67
Conway Hayman, Delaware, OG, 1967-70
John Hill, Lehigh, C, 1969-71
John Huard, Maine, LB, 1964-66
Rene Ingoglia, Massachusetts, RB, 1992-95
Garry Kuhlman, Delaware, OT, 1979-81
Steve McAdoo, Middle Tennessee State, OL, 1989-92
Bill McGovern, Holy Cross, DB, 1981-84
Robert Morris, Georgetown, DE, 1971-74
John Ogles, Austin Peay State, FB, 1963-66
Chris Parker, Marshall, RB, 1992-95
Michael Payton, Marshall, QB, 1989-92
Martin Peterson, Penn, OT, 1984-86
Charlie Pierce, Central Florida, P/PK, 1993-96
Michael Renna, Delaware, DE, 1987-89
Kirk Roach, Western Carolina, PK, 1984-87
Terry Schmidt, Ball State, DB, 1971-73
Larry Schreiber, Tennessee Tech, RB, 1966-69
Steve Schubert, Massachusetts, WR, 1969-72
Joe Skladany, Lafayette, LB, 1978-81
Leonard Smith, McNeese State, CB, 1979-82
Tom Stenglein, Colgate, WR, 1983-85
Freddie Thomas, Troy State, DB, 1984-87
Markus Thomas, Eastern Kentucky, TB, 1989-92
Billy Thompson, Maryland-Eastern Shore, DB, 1965-68
Lee White, Weber State, Fullback, 1965-67
John Zanieski, Yale, MG, 1982-84

The ballot is broken down in some stupid ways. Charlie Gogolak of Princeton and Dick Jauron of Yale are listed with the FBS players, but other school's players who played in the 1960s and 70s are listed with the FCS players. It is quite poorly done and even after our votes are tallied, there is a committee that still has to approve who gets in, or not. But at least the Football Writers Association is given the right to vote.

[CrunchGriz]

How Dave Dickenson has been forgotten by the College Football HOF is beyond me. 5676 yards passing, 56 TDs passing in his senior season, and led the Griz to the I-AA national championship (passing for 1500 yards during the playoffs alone)--while playing an average of 2.5 quarters per game because the Griz were almost always way out in front (I checked the game logs--he really did only average 2.5 quarters per game in 1995).

For his career, he completed 1,015 of 1,477 passes (68.7%) for 13,486 yards, with 116 touchdowns and only 26 interceptions, and was responsible for 137 total touchdowns (116 passing and 21 rushing).

Three time All-American. Payton Winner.

Travesty.

[Uncle Rico's Clan]

How Dave Dickenson has been forgotten by the College Football HOF is beyond me. 5676 yards passing, 56 TDs passing in his senior season, and led the Griz to the I-AA national championship (passing for 1500 yards during the playoffs alone)--while playing an average of 2.5 quarters per game because the Griz were almost always way out in front (I checked the game logs--he really did only average 2.5 quarters per game in 1995).

For his career, he completed 1,015 of 1,477 passes (68.7%) for 13,486 yards, with 116 touchdowns and only 26 interceptions, and was responsible for 137 total touchdowns (116 passing and 21 rushing).

Three time All-American. Payton Winner.

Travesty.

Totally agree that he should be in there, but I recall hearing that a player isn't eligible for a certain amount of time after they finish their career, and that includes a pro career. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so, how long must a player wait to become eligible?

[CrunchGriz]

Totally agree that he should be in there, but I recall hearing that a player isn't eligible for a certain amount of time after they finish their career, and that includes a pro career. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so, how long must a player wait to become eligible?

I'd forgotten about the waiting period. If he's still in such a waiting period, I take it back--unless he's snubbed after the waiting period. ;)

[CrunchGriz]

Just checked the eligibility rules:

1. Must be 10 years after last playing college football, and
2. Must no longer be playing professional football.

I'd say DD fits this bill.

Get him on the ballot, and in the Hall!

http://www.collegefootball.org/famer_procedures.php

[Mr. C]

Just checked the eligibility rules:

1. Must be 10 years after last playing college football, and
2. Must no longer be playing professional football.

I'd say DD fits this bill.

Get him on the ballot, and in the Hall!

http://www.collegefootball.org/famer_procedures.php

There is a five-year waiting period after you retire, also. Dave Dickensen didn't retire until the beginning of 2009, so he would be eligible for nomination in 2013, if they consider 2008 his last season of pro ball. Dickensen is a no-brianer, first-ballot pick in my my eyes, just like Dexter Coakley was last year.

[kdinva]

How Dave Dickenson has been forgotten by the College Football HOF is beyond me.

Same with Tommy Haskins of VMI.......three 200 yard games vs. both Appy. St. and The Citadel, two vs. Richmond, twice first team AP A-A......over 5,400 career yards & 50 TD's when he was 70% of the Keydets' offense. Three times first team all SoCon, twice SoCon Off. player of the year.

[Go...gate]

Here is the actual list of players from the FCS ranks:

2012 College Football Hall of Fame FCS Candidates

Archie Amerson, Northern Arizona, RB, 1995-96
Rennie Benn, Lehigh, WR, 1982-85
Carl Boyd, Northern Iowa, RB, 1985-87
Joe Campbell, Middle Tennessee State, RB, 1988-91
Bruce Collie, Texas-Arlington, OT, 1980-84
Case deBruijn, Idaho State, P, 1978-81
John Dorsey, Connecticut, LB, 1980-83
Tom Erhardt, Rhode Island, QB, 1984-85
Curtis Eller, Villanova, LB, 1989-92
Richard Erenberg, Colgate, RB, 1980-83
Don Griffin, Middle Tennessee State, S, 1982-85
Don Hass, Montana State, RB, 1965-67
Conway Hayman, Delaware, OG, 1967-70
John Hill, Lehigh, C, 1969-71
John Huard, Maine, LB, 1964-66
Rene Ingoglia, Massachusetts, RB, 1992-95
Garry Kuhlman, Delaware, OT, 1979-81
Steve McAdoo, Middle Tennessee State, OL, 1989-92
Bill McGovern, Holy Cross, DB, 1981-84
Robert Morris, Georgetown, DE, 1971-74
John Ogles, Austin Peay State, FB, 1963-66
Chris Parker, Marshall, RB, 1992-95
Michael Payton, Marshall, QB, 1989-92
Martin Peterson, Penn, OT, 1984-86
Charlie Pierce, Central Florida, P/PK, 1993-96
Michael Renna, Delaware, DE, 1987-89
Kirk Roach, Western Carolina, PK, 1984-87
Terry Schmidt, Ball State, DB, 1971-73
Larry Schreiber, Tennessee Tech, RB, 1966-69
Steve Schubert, Massachusetts, WR, 1969-72
Joe Skladany, Lafayette, LB, 1978-81
Leonard Smith, McNeese State, CB, 1979-82
Tom Stenglein, Colgate, WR, 1983-85
Freddie Thomas, Troy State, DB, 1984-87
Markus Thomas, Eastern Kentucky, TB, 1989-92
Billy Thompson, Maryland-Eastern Shore, DB, 1965-68
Lee White, Weber State, Fullback, 1965-67
John Zanieski, Yale, MG, 1982-84

The ballot is broken down in some stupid ways. Charlie Gogolak of Princeton and Dick Jauron of Yale are listed with the FBS players, but other school's players who played in the 1960s and 70s are listed with the FCS players. It is quite poorly done and even after our votes are tallied, there is a committee that still has to approve who gets in, or not. But at least the Football Writers Association is given the right to vote.

Not so sure about Stenglein, but Erenberg was the real deal, and he did amazing things against some very good teams, as Colgate played very tough schedules in those years. I hope he gets in.

[Bam]

Former Eastern Kentucky University football player Markus Thomas was recently put on the 2012 National Football Foundation Divisional College Football Hall of Fame ballot. The 2012 class will be announced on May 22.

Thomas was a star running back for the Colonels from 1989 to 1993. His name is listed throughout the EKU record books as he still holds the program record for rushing yards (5,552), rushing touchdowns (52), yards per rush (6.3) and single game rushing mark (300 vs. Marshall in 1989).

The two-time OVC Offensive Player of the Year (1991, 1992) helped lead Eastern to a 40-10 (.800) overall record in his four years while the team won two OVC titles (1990, 1991) and made four NCAA FCS playoff appearances. A 1992 first team All-American, Thomas ranked third on the NCAA FCS all-time rushing list when he concluded his collegiate career and currently ranks among the top-20 on that list.

Thomas played professional football for two years with the Philadelphia Eagles (1993-94) and three years with the Scottish Claymores (1995-97) of NFL Europe. He was inducted into the EKU Athletics Hall of Fame in the fall of 2008.

Eastern Kentucky University is currently represented by two people in the College Football Hall of Fame. Defensive back George Floyd (1978-81), who was a part of EKU’s first FCS national championship team in 1979, was inducted in 1999. Meanwhile, legendary head coach Roy Kidd (1964-2002) was inducted after his retirement in 2003.