Barry Bonds strikes again

[Mr. C]

Just saw on the sports ticker where Barry Bonds' sleaze-bucket attorney says Bonds WILL NOT talk to George Mitchell unless he receives assurances that the information won't be released to the Feds. Of course, attorney Michael Rains knows Mitchell can't do that. If Mitchell were given a supeona, he would have to tell a Grand Jury, the Justice Department, or the IRS, anything he knows. If Butt Selig had a backbone, he would tell Bonds, sure Barry, you can choose not to testify. But you will not play another Major League game until you do. If Barry is so innocent (which anyone with a brain knows he isn't), then he would have no reason not to talk to Mitchell.

[HiHiYikas]

Just saw on the sports ticker where Barry Bonds' sleaze-bucket attorney says Bonds WILL NOT talk to George Mitchell unless he receives assurances that the information won't be released to the Feds. Of course, attorney Michael Rains knows Mitchell can't do that. If Mitchell were given a supeona, he would have to tell a Grand Jury, the Justice Department, or the IRS, anything he knows. If Butt Selig had a backbone, he would tell Bonds, sure Barry, you can choose not to testify. But you will not play another Major League game until you do. If Barry is so innocent (which anyone with a brain knows he isn't), then he would have no reason not to talk to Mitchell.
Doesn't this refusal just reek of guilt? It's not like a lot of us think the guy's innocent anyway, though.

[Mr. C]

Yes it does. Bonds and his attorney are just positively brilliant on the PR front. You know if Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, Sheffield, Giambi and all the rest just came out and came clean and begged baseball fan's forgiveness, we would probably forgive them. But instead we here nothing but excuses and denials. We might even put them in the Hall of Fame along with Pete Rose and Joe Jackson, if they were willing to fess up and admit everything.

Baseball keeps hoping that Bonds just goes away so they don't have to deal with this. The best thing would be for Bonds to retire immediately. Too bad that Judge Kennesaw Mountain Landis isn't still commissioner. He would have suspended all of the above players and everyone else suspected for life and the scandal would have been over immediately.

It's also time to start testing blood and develop a test for HGH and tell Donald Fehr to stick it and leave, if he won't agree. Throw him out of baseball, too. He is as responsible (as is Selig) for this mess. There are enough respectable players now (Smoltz, Maddox, Schilling etc) that want to end the suspicion that they will stand up to Fehr and take back the player's association.

[dirtbag]

Doesn't this refusal just reek of guilt? It's not like a lot of us think the guy's innocent anyway, though.

He already reeks of guilt, but I have no idea why this is being made into a news story. If you're under criminal investigation, you DO NOT speak to anyone else about it. That's common sense. Even Lionel Hutz knows that.

That's also why Bonds did not testify in front of Congress when they did that stupid little charade.

[dirtbag]

Too bad that Judge Kennesaw Mountain Landis isn't still commissioner. He would have suspended all of the above players and everyone else suspected for life and the scandal would have been over immediately.



xidiotx

[Mr. C]

Landis got rid of anyone who he even suspected in the Black Sox scandal and that put an end to the gambling problem. I didn't say it was just, or anything, but it did solve the problem. You wouldn't have anyone messing with roids, if you had a commissioner like that.

[Tod]

xidiotx

You're right, db. I just swept past that and didn't catch it. : smh :

[Tod]

Landis got rid of anyone who he even suspected in the Black Sox scandal and that put an end to the gambling problem. I didn't say it was just, or anything, but it did solve the problem. You wouldn't have anyone messing with roids, if you had a commissioner like that.

A very stern commissioner would be a great thing, Mr. C, but not one who sweeps up the innocent just to ensure they get the guilty. Not in America. I'm sure there must be something in between that would work well.

[dirtbag]

Landis got rid of anyone who he even suspected in the Black Sox scandal and that put an end to the gambling problem. I didn't say it was just, or anything, but it did solve the problem.

So you advocate solving problems by banning anyone you suspect being involved?

Are you from China or Cuba?

[Mr. C]

You are putting words in my mouth. I was just making the point that we need a strong commissioner. You missed that altogether. I'm surprised you are not apologizing for Bonds as you have in the past when people have posted regarding him.

In the Black Sox scandal, Buck Weaver took no money, but he was kicked out of baseball because he knew that other were fixing games. If you used the same punishment for those who knew their teammates were taking illegal drugs could also face some punishment.

[dirtbag]

You are putting words in my mouth. I was just making the point that we need a strong commissioner. You missed that altogether.


How am I putting words in your mouth and missing your point that we need a strong commissioner?!?!?!

I quoted your exact freakin' sentence that said we need a strong commissioner to kick out everyone who has or has been suspected of using steroids!

If you'd like to retract your asinine comment, feel free to, but don't blame it on me.


In the Black Sox scandal, Buck Weaver took no money, but he was kicked out of baseball because he knew that other were fixing games. If you used the same punishment for those who knew their teammates were taking illegal drugs could also face some punishment.

You realize that every MLB player since Jim Bouton's days has had knowledge of teammates (or themselves) taking amphetimines, don't you?

[HiHiYikas]

Landis was a tough one, for sure. I don't know if we'd be better off with a hard-liner like the Judge. But, given the choice between a puppet like Selig and a tough-nosed, objeive outsider like Landis, you have to wonder whether Landis wouldn't be better. I'd settle for Fay Vincent.

[*****]

... If you'd like to retract your asinine comment...Woah, no need to get personal. I think the point has been made that users and "enablers" are equally guilty and deserve punishment.