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bonarae
March 11th, 2012, 07:00 PM
Not a good showing of FCS brass in the Big Dance this year.
Harvard - 12 vs. Vanderbilt xsmhx Not a good chance of an upset. Vandy has a dangerous 7-footer. (6-11 actually)
South Dakota State - 14 vs. Baylor ditto
Lehigh - 15 vs. Duke :( Can get routed easily.
Davidson - 13 vs. Louisville :(
Murray State - 6 vs. Colorado State
Norfolk State - 15 vs. Missouri :(
Play-in:
Lamar vs. Vermont for 16 and vs. Tarholes. Good luck to them.
Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 11th, 2012, 07:36 PM
Lehigh played well against Michigan State and Iowa State this year. I really think they can compete with Duke as long as the Dookies aren't hitting from 3.
HandoEX
March 11th, 2012, 08:40 PM
Wisconsin could be upset by Montana. I like their chances.
Seawolf97
March 11th, 2012, 09:49 PM
Does the NIT count ? We paly Seton Hall Tuesday night. Good Luck to all who are going to the Big Dance! I see some tough match ups.
Cocky
March 11th, 2012, 09:55 PM
Murray should have been a 2-4 seed.
ngineer
March 11th, 2012, 11:10 PM
Lehigh played well against Michigan State and Iowa State this year. I really think they can compete with Duke as long as the Dookies aren't hitting from 3.
Yes, that is the entire key. Lehigh played Michigan State very tough in East Lansing trailing by only 6 with under 20 seconds to play. Knutson is becoming a real force and if Greiner is healthy, along with Adams and Bailey, we can give any team fits. With the focus on CJ McCollum, the other players have to make the Duke think about them to open up the opportunities for CJ.
Grizalltheway
March 12th, 2012, 12:11 AM
Wisconsin could be upset by Montana. I like their chances.
xnodx
It will be tough, but definitely possible.
Cleets
March 12th, 2012, 12:22 AM
Harvard vs. Vanderbilt
South Dakota State vs. Baylor
Lehigh vs. Duke
Davidson vs. Louisville
Murray State vs. Colorado State
Norfolk State vs. Missouri
Montana vs. Wisconsin
TheValleyRaider
March 12th, 2012, 01:03 AM
Lehigh played well against Michigan State and Iowa State this year. I really think they can compete with Duke as long as the Dookies aren't hitting from 3.
That's always the story with Duke, isn't it?
asumike83
March 12th, 2012, 09:34 AM
I think Harvard and Davidson both have an opportunity to pull a nice upset. Davidson beat Kansas at Phog Allen Fieldhouse, so taking down Louisville is not out of the picture if they are hitting their jumpers.
Harvard is very under-seeded in my opinion for a team that beat FSU, went 26-4 and was ranked for part of the year. Combine that with Vanderbilt's recent allergic reactions to the first round of the NCAA tournament and that one could be VERY interesting. Vandy's last three NCAA appearances have all been first round losses, two to 13 seeds and one to a 12 seed. Another 5/12 upset does not seem out of the picture at all.
asumike83
March 12th, 2012, 09:39 AM
Lehigh played well against Michigan State and Iowa State this year. I really think they can compete with Duke as long as the Dookies aren't hitting from 3.
How is Lehigh down low? Duke doesn't have the big guys to score at will against teams like UNC, FSU, etc. but they do have a pair of 6-11 athletes in the Plumlee brothers that have dominated the boards against smaller teams. They live and die by the 3 but offensive rebounding can offset a poor shooting night from them.
Ivytalk
March 12th, 2012, 11:30 AM
I think Harvard and Davidson both have an opportunity to pull a nice upset. Davidson beat Kansas at Phog Allen Fieldhouse, so taking down Louisville is not out of the picture if they are hitting their jumpers.
Harvard is very under-seeded in my opinion for a team that beat FSU, went 26-4 and was ranked for part of the year. Combine that with Vanderbilt's recent allergic reactions to the first round of the NCAA tournament and that one could be VERY interesting. Vandy's last three NCAA appearances have all been first round losses, two to 13 seeds and one to a 12 seed. Another 5/12 upset does not seem out of the picture at all.
I hope you're right! Fran Fraschilla said that he expected a close game with Vandy the winner. He also said that this game might have the highest combined SAT scores in the tournament!xlolx
HandoEX
March 12th, 2012, 11:39 AM
Davidson Davidson beat Kansas at Phog Allen Fieldhouse.
That game was at the Sprint Center in KC, not Phog Allen. Still pretty much a home game for KU though.
RabidRabbit
March 12th, 2012, 11:57 AM
Murray should have been a 2-4 seed.
Agreed. Mid-majors cornholed again. SDST should have been a 13 or 12.
MorgantonAPPAlum
March 12th, 2012, 01:32 PM
I hope you're right! Fran Fraschilla said that he expected a close game with Vandy the winner. He also said that this game might have the highest combined SAT scores in the tournament!xlolx
Probably true-Lehigh and Duke would be pretty good in that regard too.
Professor Chaos
March 12th, 2012, 03:57 PM
Murray should have been a 2-4 seed.
Agreed. Mid-majors cornholed again. SDST should have been a 13 or 12.
Agreed that both should be a seed line higher, possibly 2.
SDSU once again gets bumped because of the bad rap the Summit/Midcon gets for not being able to win tournament games. But when you keep putting these teams a seed line below where they're supposed to be what do they expect? Baylor is a very good 3 seed as well. I didn't see the full seedings but it would seem to me that Baylor is either the first 3 seed or the second behind Florida St.
The good new for Murray St is that they get their 1st round games in Louisville and Marquette is beatable for good mid-majors since they don't have the high major size on the front line that most of the other top 15 teams have.
ASU_Fanatic
March 12th, 2012, 05:06 PM
Yeah, Lehigh is not gonna beat Duke. Better not anyways.
Mr. C
March 12th, 2012, 11:03 PM
Yeah, Lehigh is not gonna beat Duke. Better not anyways.
Have you even seen Lehigh play? Lehigh has one of the top players in the tournament in McCollum. If he gets hot, it could happen. We've seen 2-15 upsets before.
ngineer
March 13th, 2012, 12:43 AM
Duke lives on the "3" and if Lehigh can disrupt the sync and/or the Dookies have an "off"night, look out. Lehigh trailed Michigan State by only 6 points with 20 seconds to go causing Izzo to throw a tantrum, callling a timeout and reaming his players. Lehigh front court is not big, but we have some muscle guys at 6'8" who can bang with the best of them. I don't expect any slack from the refs in Greensboro, so we have to stay away from the 'ticky-tack' fouls. The key for Lehigh's offense is for the others to step up in order for McCollum to have some room, though he doesn't need alot. Coach Reed likes to use 10 players in a rotation, though I suspect CJ and Knutson will be out there at least 35 min. It's a great game for Lehigh. Nothing to lose and a great stage for the guys to play. I hope the UNC fans stick around (they play at 4:30 p.m) and cheer for the Brown and White! (;-)
bonarae
March 13th, 2012, 09:10 PM
MVSU is going home. xbawlingx They lost to WKU 59-58.
Sorry for the oversight of the Delta Devils as well as the Griz in the first post. xpeacex
bonarae
March 15th, 2012, 12:48 AM
The First Four is in the books. Lamar's going home. :(
Thursday Games involving FCS:
12:15 Colorado State - Murray State
1:40 Davidson - Louisville
2:10 Montana - Wisconsin
4:40 Harvard - Vanderbilt
7:27 South Dakota State - Baylor
LakesBison
March 15th, 2012, 10:31 AM
sdsu and Natelie Wolters will get their @SS whooping in 10 hours, line has moved from -6 to -8.5 for baylor, get your money in before it moves to -10
maybe she will improve on her 5-22 choke effort in summit champ game.
ursus arctos horribilis
March 15th, 2012, 01:24 PM
sdsu and Natelie Wolters will get their @SS whooping in 10 hours, line has moved from -6 to -8.5 for baylor, get your money in before it moves to -10
maybe she will improve on her 5-22 choke effort in summit champ game.
They are there. The were good enough to at least make it that far. What are you watching Lakes?
darell1976
March 15th, 2012, 02:40 PM
Good luck to South Dakota State and Montana!!!
bonarae
March 15th, 2012, 02:55 PM
Murray is advancing to the round of 32 with a second-half effort to pull away from Colorado State 58-41.
BisonBacker
March 15th, 2012, 03:39 PM
They are there. The were good enough to at least make it that far. What are you watching Lakes?
It's absolutely amazing that LakesBison can be such a douche. You are spot on Ursus in the comment they were good enough to make it. Our womens team has fallen so far that it's a shame. Until we get a new womens head coach we will continue to watch from the sideline. Dip**** will continue to make stupid comments about how he hopes they lose but forgets they completely demolished us. Best of Luck to SDSU tonight.
darell1976
March 15th, 2012, 03:42 PM
It's absolutely amazing that LakesBison can be such a douche. You are spot on Ursus in the comment they were good enough to make it. Our womens team has fallen so far that it's a shame. Until we get a new womens head coach we will continue to watch from the sideline. Dip**** will continue to make stupid comments about how he hopes they lose but forgets they completely demolished us. Best of Luck to SDSU tonight.
Would Amy Ruley ever come back? She was a hell of a coach.
BisonBacker
March 15th, 2012, 03:50 PM
I don't think so. After all the years of coaching and then the cancer issue I think she's enjoying her time now doing what she's doing.
ursus arctos horribilis
March 15th, 2012, 03:50 PM
It's absolutely amazing that LakesBison can be such a douche. You are spot on Ursus in the comment they were good enough to make it. Our womens team has fallen so far that it's a shame. Until we get a new womens head coach we will continue to watch from the sideline. Dip**** will continue to make stupid comments about how he hopes they lose but forgets they completely demolished us. Best of Luck to SDSU tonight.
He is driven by pure emotion with absolutely no thought going into what he says. A life this full of negativity has to be tough to get through. Oh well.
darell1976
March 15th, 2012, 04:34 PM
Wisconsin 73
Montana 49 :(
Good try Montana...Good luck next year (and NO I do not hope you make it)xsmiley_wix
bonarae
March 15th, 2012, 05:52 PM
Davidson's out as well, losing to Louisville 69-62.
MorgantonAPPAlum
March 15th, 2012, 06:07 PM
UNCA (I know-not FCS, but a big underdog anyway) got hosed.
HailSzczur
March 15th, 2012, 06:38 PM
Wisconsin 73
Montana 49 :(
Good try Montana...Good luck next year (and NO I do not hope you make it)xsmiley_wix
Wisconsin set their tourney record for margin of victory.....not the kind of history you want to be a part of
HailSzczur
March 15th, 2012, 06:39 PM
UNCA (I know-not FCS, but a big underdog anyway) got hosed.
Refs gave them the game. complete BS
bonarae
March 15th, 2012, 07:26 PM
Harvard gave Vandy quite a scare but they fell short once again, making the Crimson 0-fer in the past 3 postseason contests. xsmhx
Score: Vanderbilt 79, Harvard 70.
Ivytalk
March 15th, 2012, 07:50 PM
Harvard fought hard. Best of luck to Vandy the rest of the way. They're in my law partner's Final Four!:D
Gil Dobie
March 15th, 2012, 08:07 PM
Jackrabbits starting out great against Baylor
LakesBison
March 15th, 2012, 08:35 PM
then..... the bunny turds turned into the SDSU football team at MONTANA circa playoffs 2010.
Natalie just dribbled off her leg out of bounds ...classic.
ursus arctos horribilis
March 15th, 2012, 09:38 PM
then..... the bunny turds turned into the SDSU football team at MONTANA circa playoffs 2010.
Natalie just dribbled off her leg out of bounds ...classic.
The first Dakota team to make the playoffs had a tough draw and proved themselves quite well. Much like this B Ball team. They are in the fight and you are watching them. They are better than your team so I'd just let it ride and enjoy the ride for now. I'll say it again, they are better than your team. That's a fact Jack.
HailSzczur
March 15th, 2012, 10:12 PM
The first Dakota team to make the playoffs had a tough draw and proved themselves quite well. Much like this B Ball team. They are in the fight and you are watching them. They are better than your team so I'd just let it ride and enjoy the ride for now. I'll say it again, they are better than your team. That's a fact Jack.
And their fans are more attractive than Lakes too
http://2.media.sportspickle.cvcdn.com/79/53/11d199b2a5b82877f1a82480b6e45e67.jpg
BlueHenSinfonian
March 15th, 2012, 10:25 PM
VCU represented the CAA well and took out Wichita State in an 'upset' (not convinced that the CAA champ should have been seeded underneath the 2nd MVC team to begin with).
ASU_Fanatic
March 15th, 2012, 11:21 PM
Duke lives on the "3" and if Lehigh can disrupt the sync and/or the Dookies have an "off"night, look out. Lehigh trailed Michigan State by only 6 points with 20 seconds to go causing Izzo to throw a tantrum, callling a timeout and reaming his players. Lehigh front court is not big, but we have some muscle guys at 6'8" who can bang with the best of them. I don't expect any slack from the refs in Greensboro, so we have to stay away from the 'ticky-tack' fouls. The key for Lehigh's offense is for the others to step up in order for McCollum to have some room, though he doesn't need alot. Coach Reed likes to use 10 players in a rotation, though I suspect CJ and Knutson will be out there at least 35 min. It's a great game for Lehigh. Nothing to lose and a great stage for the guys to play. I hope the UNC fans stick around (they play at 4:30 p.m) and cheer for the Brown and White! (;-)
It would take a miracle for Lehigh to beat my squad. Duke was beating MSU by like 20 with 10 minutes left earlier in the year, but they stopped playing at the end. Rivers will dominate McCollum.
Cleets
March 15th, 2012, 11:23 PM
It would take a miracle for Lehigh to beat my squad. Duke was beating MSU by like 20 with 10 minutes left earlier in the year, but they stopped playing at the end. Rivers will dominate McCollum.
You play for Duke..?
StorminASU
March 15th, 2012, 11:38 PM
It would take a miracle for Lehigh to beat my squad. Duke was beating MSU by like 20 with 10 minutes left earlier in the year, but they stopped playing at the end. Rivers will dominate McCollum.
Why don't you apply for a transfer to Duke? I'm sure ASU could continue on without you.
Mr. C
March 15th, 2012, 11:41 PM
You play for Duke..?
ASU students don't have their own hoop team to root for.
Mr. C
March 15th, 2012, 11:43 PM
It would take a miracle for Lehigh to beat my squad. Duke was beating MSU by like 20 with 10 minutes left earlier in the year, but they stopped playing at the end. Rivers will dominate McCollum.
There is nothing worst than fans that attend one school and root for some big-time hot-shot program. Have you even seen McCollum's play? If you had, you wouldn't be trashing on him. He is one of the best players in this tournament.
Mr. C
March 15th, 2012, 11:44 PM
VCU represented the CAA well and took out Wichita State in an 'upset' (not convinced that the CAA champ should have been seeded underneath the 2nd MVC team to begin with).
Is it an upset when a Final Four team beats a mid-major?
Mr. C
March 15th, 2012, 11:47 PM
UNCA (I know-not FCS, but a big underdog anyway) got hosed.
Here is the college-sports-journal.com take on the hosing UNCA got:
http://www.college-sports-journal.com/index.php/78-college-sports-journal/david-coulson/194-boeheim-syracuse-deserved-to-lose-against-unc-asheville
HailSzczur
March 15th, 2012, 11:51 PM
Here is the college-sports-journal.com take on the hosing UNCA got:
http://www.college-sports-journal.com/index.php/78-college-sports-journal/david-coulson/194-boeheim-syracuse-deserved-to-lose-against-unc-asheville
Don't forget the gift no call on goal tending that occurred around the the 4 or 5 min mark. UNCA went on to convert 1/2 FT they got from that when it should have been an and 1.
ASU_Fanatic
March 15th, 2012, 11:52 PM
I'm in high school, don't act like you guys didn't have love for one of these teams at my age.
BlueHenSinfonian
March 15th, 2012, 11:55 PM
Is it an upset when a Final Four team beats a mid-major?
VCU was a 12 seed vs Wichita as a 5 seed, so, on that side it was an upset, but my point was I think VCU was seeded too low compared to Wichita State. Both teams are mid-majors, and Wichita's record isn't definitively better than VCU's.
StorminASU
March 16th, 2012, 12:35 AM
I'm in high school, don't act like you guys didn't have love for one of these teams at my age.
It's pretty easy to act that way since I didn't. I hope you grow up and drop the false allegiances before you come to App; otherwise you'll just be one of the (too) many UNC/Duke tools walking around campus with blue on...last time I checked ASU was black and gold, no baby or royal anything.
darell1976
March 16th, 2012, 09:27 AM
Congrats to South Dakota State for giving Baylor all they could handle. You made fans in the Dakotas proud. Maybe next year there could be two Dakota teams in the Big Dance. Good luck to the SU's and South Dakota.
ngineer
March 16th, 2012, 10:35 AM
I'll post it now, as I will be at the NCAA Wrestling Championships here in St. Louis tonight, but GO LEHIGH!!! What at time to be an Engineer/Mountain Hawk..Football team #5, Basketball team PL Champs and get a chance in the big dance, Lacrosse now #11 and rising, and Wrestling with 7 still alive in THE tournament!!!
TheRevSFA
March 16th, 2012, 11:10 AM
Great performance yesterday by SDSU. Just wasn't enough.
However, Baylors jerseys looked like they were dyed in glow stick goo...
asumike83
March 16th, 2012, 11:20 AM
It's pretty easy to act that way since I didn't. I hope you grow up and drop the false allegiances before you come to App; otherwise you'll just be one of the (too) many UNC/Duke tools walking around campus with blue on...last time I checked ASU was black and gold, no baby or royal anything.
It's just the way it is in a basketball crazy state like NC. I grew up in a family of Duke fans myself, so I can relate. I still like to see Duke win (and my hate for UNC has remained), but I bleed black and gold. Until you actually attend a school and get involved in the culture or have a relative that did, most kids growing up in this state have an ACC allegiance.
ASU is the only school that I will support financially or dedicate my time to, but I have no problem with childhood allegiances remaining on the back burner as long as you don't have to think twice if their interests conflict with App!
darell1976
March 16th, 2012, 11:34 AM
Great performance yesterday by SDSU. Just wasn't enough.
However, Baylors jerseys looked like they were dyed in glow stick goo...
I was thinking a yellow highlighter.
ursus arctos horribilis
March 16th, 2012, 01:13 PM
Why don't you apply for a transfer to Duke? I'm sure ASU could continue on without you.
The little man thing is funny. One of the reasons ASU has risen in football is because of exactly this type of thing and now some want to berate because those very fans follow other schools with a much more storied tradition in B Ball?
Good stuff.
Every time that I bring up the fact that a very good portion of the crowd at ASU is not the true hard cores that have been there since before the NC's but I'm always told that I'm off base.
It's great to have those people there and all, don't fault them one bit. But acting like they will stick around if the excitement drops a level or so is foolhardy.
ursus arctos horribilis
March 16th, 2012, 01:14 PM
SDSU was a really good team and they did a hell of job yesterday. Great showing SDSU and you were oh so close to taking another step forward.xthumbsupx
asumike83
March 16th, 2012, 02:48 PM
Every time that I bring up the fact that a very good portion of the crowd at ASU is not the true hard cores that have been there since before the NC's but I'm always told that I'm off base.
It's great to have those people there and all, don't fault them one bit. But acting like they will stick around if the excitement drops a level or so is foolhardy.
Agree and disagree with that. Yes, our state is full of ACC basketball fans and I have no problem with them supporting our football team. However, the days of averaging 15K regular season attendance are over for good in my opinion, barring 5-10 years of serious futility.
Even some of the die-hards that were there pre-2005 (pats self on back) still had childhood ACC affiliation. The difference is that football is a much bigger part of on-campus life than it was 10 years ago when I started at App. It has been a pretty incredible improvement and I think the stadium will stay full, with both kinds of fans, even if we have some down years. Those fans would probably be the ones leaving early in a bad season, but the gameday experience is too big a part of campus life now to drop our support back to where it was 8-9 years ago.
StorminASU
March 16th, 2012, 02:50 PM
The little man thing is funny. One of the reasons ASU has risen in football is because of exactly this type of thing and now some want to berate because those very fans follow other schools with a much more storied tradition in B Ball?
Good stuff.
Every time that I bring up the fact that a very good portion of the crowd at ASU is not the true hard cores that have been there since before the NC's but I'm always told that I'm off base.
It's great to have those people there and all, don't fault them one bit. But acting like they will stick around if the excitement drops a level or so is foolhardy.
The excitement basically jumped off a cliff last season...I think our attendance was still at the top.
Bogus Megapardus
March 16th, 2012, 03:16 PM
There is nothing worst than fans that attend one school and root for some big-time hot-shot program. Have you even seen McCollum's play? If you had, you wouldn't be trashing on him. He is one of the best players in this tournament.
I have no love for Lehigh, of course. But I'd bet LFN's paycheck that you would never see someone walking around the Lehigh campus wearing a Penn State or a Pitt sweatshirt. It would be absolutely unthinkable.
McCollum is an elite player who could start for, and improve, any team in the nation right now. Will that be enough for the Brown Panties against Duke? Maybe not. Then again, look what Mike Muscala did for Bucknell against Arizona in the NIT the other night.
LakesBison
March 16th, 2012, 03:26 PM
Natalie wolters and sdsu were extremely lucky that baylor had a miserable miserable night and wolters dribbled plenty of balls off his feet and bad passes and bad shots. in her 2 biggest games she was 12-35 . not even close to Ben Woodsides 37 pt performance vs Kansas.
ngineer
March 16th, 2012, 04:04 PM
Bethlehem P.D. are on 'riot alert' tonight in the event Lehigh upsets the Blue Devils. Extra breathalyzers being brought in from Harrisburg.
asumike83
March 16th, 2012, 05:08 PM
Dear NCAA Selection Committee,
If you have 13 losses and are .500 or worse in your conference, you do NOT deserve an at-large bid. It does not matter if that conference is the almighty Big East, you are not a tournament team.
Sincerely,
Mike
UMass922
March 16th, 2012, 05:22 PM
Norfolk State is tied with Missouri at the half, 38-38 . . .
ursus arctos horribilis
March 16th, 2012, 06:08 PM
Natalie wolters and sdsu were extremely lucky that baylor had a miserable miserable night and wolters dribbled plenty of balls off his feet and bad passes and bad shots. in her 2 biggest games she was 12-35 . not even close to Ben Woodsides 37 pt performance vs Kansas.
They were better than your team. Since when is 34% not even close to 37%? Kids say the dumbest things.
Since you are using just the Kansas game then you'd need to just use the game yesterday by Nate as comparison. He was 8/19 from the stat sheet. 42% is better than your vaunted 37.
Stop with the negative nancy drivel, they played well and showed well.
Edit:
Ahh! Just noticed that Lakes said 37 points not 37 % so disregard due to failure to read closely.
I'll take the dunce cap for the time being on that one.
bonarae
March 16th, 2012, 06:52 PM
THE NORFOLK STATE SPARTANS PULL OFF A VERY BIG UPSET OF MISSOURI!
Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 16th, 2012, 07:08 PM
Norfolk St with an incredible win!! They beat Missouri for 40 minutes, not a fluke!
Time for Lehigh to do the same! Go Hawks!!!
ursus arctos horribilis
March 16th, 2012, 07:08 PM
The excitement basically jumped off a cliff last season...I think our attendance was still at the top.
Yeah poor choice of wording cuz what asumike said is what I was getting at and should have acknowledged that they don't just *poof* disappear.
main point is that I don't get the angst about people wearing other schools **** because they attend App. We have people that wear all sorts of WAC/MWC/Pac 10 stuff all the time around here and even at a football game.
Those schools you have some problem with have a backing for the very same reason App does.
Success.
Seems a bit trifling to bitch about someone wearing a jersey from a local area university that isn't even a rival when they also have a large fan base that stretches across the country.
ursus arctos horribilis
March 16th, 2012, 07:09 PM
Norfolk St with an incredible win!! They beat Missouri for 40 minutes, not a fluke!
Time for Lehigh to do the same! Go Hawks!!!
not even close to Ben Woodsides 37 pt performance vs Kansas.
WestCoastAggie
March 16th, 2012, 07:10 PM
This is Sparta!
Yes, I attended A&T and Murray State...
ursus arctos horribilis
March 16th, 2012, 07:15 PM
Watched most of the Norfolk game. Great win! Fitting that O'Quinn plays a big role so close to St. Paddy's day.
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 08:08 PM
Dear NCAA Selection Committee,
If you have 13 losses and are .500 or worse in your conference, you do NOT deserve an at-large bid. It does not matter if that conference is the almighty Big East, you are not a tournament team.
Sincerely,
Mike
Amen
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 08:09 PM
Amazing. Coach K is actually doing an interview at the half. That has to be a first. Did someone from the NCAA finally kick that creep in a particularly place to make him cooperate like every other coach does?
Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 16th, 2012, 08:10 PM
Duke 30 Lehigh 28 at the half...
Duke is off from 3 so far which is obviously helping the Hawks. LU needs to finish when they get in the lane.
Bogus Megapardus
March 16th, 2012, 08:17 PM
I can't believe I'm writing this . . . :cringe: . . . Go Lehigh!
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 08:18 PM
VCU was a 12 seed vs Wichita as a 5 seed, so, on that side it was an upset, but my point was I think VCU was seeded too low compared to Wichita State. Both teams are mid-majors, and Wichita's record isn't definitively better than VCU's.
You and I are on the same page here. I felt like it was silly to have VCU as a No. 12 seed, but the committee always does that against the "mid-majors." Look at how under-seeded Gonzaga is most years, compared to the Zags' track record through the years. Butler was a rimmed-out shot away from the title two years ago and was back under-seeded the next year.
Bogus Megapardus
March 16th, 2012, 08:33 PM
You and I are on the same page here. I felt like it was silly to have VCU as a No. 12 seed, but the committee always does that against the "mid-majors." Look at how under-seeded Gonzaga is most years, compared to the Zags' track record through the years. Butler was a rimmed-out shot away from the title two years ago and was back under-seeded the next year.
CBS and Disney (aka ESPN) do the seeding. I would hope that everyone realizes that by now. But so what? It's one game, on one night. Let the better team win. Last night it was Virginia Commonwealth, for sure. Every conference, from the Patriot to the CAA and on up, plays top 10 majors during the season. We all have our opportunities.
Ivytalk
March 16th, 2012, 08:59 PM
Lehigh up 5! Duke can't hit the outside shot. Ratface looks like he needs Maalox!
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:09 PM
"Ratface" got to love that nickname. We like to think of him as Adolph Hitler, without the silly mustache.
MorgantonAPPAlum
March 16th, 2012, 09:16 PM
Did anybody see what the refs called the intentional foul for?
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:18 PM
The guy from behind grabbed McCollum
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:19 PM
Can we do without the "homer" commentators?
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:23 PM
Another bad out-of-bounds call gives Michigan the ball back against Ohio, down three with 40 seconds left
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:25 PM
Lehigh is cutting the heart out of Duke. The Blue Devils look totally confused.
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:26 PM
Lucky trey by the traitor Seth Curry (can't root for a player who transfers from Liberty to Duke).
MorgantonAPPAlum
March 16th, 2012, 09:27 PM
The guy from behind grabbed McCollum
Thanks-didn't see it on the replay.
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:28 PM
Coach K is starring daggers at the officials. His Jim Boeheim act isn't working on these officials.
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:29 PM
Thanks-didn't see it on the replay.
There was one particular angle from the front of the play where you could see it. Originally, I thought it was on Curry, like everyone else.
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:30 PM
Die, Dukies, Die.
NoDak 4 Ever
March 16th, 2012, 09:31 PM
Die, Dukies, Die.
I don't remember the last time I saw a weaker 2.
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:32 PM
They just showed Coach K's wife. Wonder if she has been cussing out the Mountain Hawk players tonight, like she normally does?
cbarrier90
March 16th, 2012, 09:33 PM
So...does this make up for Lum losing the Payton Award? :)
Way to go, Mountain Hawks!
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:34 PM
I don't remember the last time I saw a weaker 2.
Taking nothing away from Lehigh, which played the kind of game I expected from them tonight, Duke looked confused and out of sync on offense all night. I wonder where that App/Duke fan on AGS has disappeared to? He was telling all of us how Rivers was going to eat McCollum's lunch.
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:34 PM
So...does this make up for Lum losing the Payton Award? :)
Way to go, Mountain Hawks!
McCollum for player of the year.
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:38 PM
And Jim Nantz has to make the excuse of the injured player, Kelly. What a jerk he is as an announcer.
bonarae
March 16th, 2012, 09:42 PM
LEHIGH! LEHIGH! LEHIGH! xthumbsupx xbowx :D
TWO #2 SEEDS LOST IN THE SAME NIGHT!
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 09:43 PM
So some class on the handshake, Coach K.
ursus arctos horribilis
March 16th, 2012, 09:43 PM
****ing HUGE Lehigh!!!!
Gil Dobie
March 16th, 2012, 09:44 PM
Congrats Lehigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 16th, 2012, 09:44 PM
Lehigh did it!! Biggest win in school history!!1
GoBlueHens83
March 16th, 2012, 09:46 PM
Congrats Lehigh!
UMass922
March 16th, 2012, 09:47 PM
xbowx xbowx xbowx Way to go LEHIGH and NORFOLK STATE!!! xbowx xbowx xbowx
WestCoastAggie
March 16th, 2012, 09:57 PM
The FCS is repping hard in this tournament.
Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 16th, 2012, 09:59 PM
I can safely say Temple & Lehigh > Duke...
dungeonjoe
March 16th, 2012, 10:00 PM
way to go Lehigh and Norfolk State!!
Go Bison
March 16th, 2012, 10:00 PM
Awesome win by Lehigh! What a great year for the Mountain Hawks! Congrats also to Norfolk State! Way to represent!
ASU_Fanatic
March 16th, 2012, 10:02 PM
DAMMIT
Huge ups to Lehigh, in my 9-10 years of being a Duke fan I can't remember a game where I've seen them play that bad. Didn't hustle for loose balls, missed wide open looks... damn damn damn. McCollum is a beast although he did shoot about 20 free throws but Duke certainly didn't deserve to win. Duke's last 3 games against VT, FSU and Lehigh they couldn't get near as good of looks as they did in all the prior games and Ryan Kelly's absence is the reason for that. Wow did we need him.
ChristopherBearkat
March 16th, 2012, 10:02 PM
WAY TO GO LEHIGH! WAY TO GO NORFOLK STATE! WOOOOOOOT!
cbarrier90
March 16th, 2012, 10:21 PM
DAMMIT
Huge ups to Lehigh, in my 9-10 years of being a Duke fan I can't remember a game where I've seen them play that bad. Didn't hustle for loose balls, missed wide open looks... damn damn damn. McCollum is a beast although he did shoot about 20 free throws but Duke certainly didn't deserve to win. Duke's last 3 games against VT, FSU and Lehigh they couldn't get near as good of looks as they did in all the prior games and Ryan Kelly's absence is the reason for that. Wow did we need him.
You are a young pup. There is still time to repent. :)
Bogus Megapardus
March 16th, 2012, 10:26 PM
I humble myself.
xbowxxbowxxbowx
Nice job, Squawkers.
ASU_Fanatic
March 16th, 2012, 10:34 PM
You are a young pup. There is still time to repent. :)Lol, as soon as I get in college I'll lose most of my love for them.
HensRock
March 16th, 2012, 11:37 PM
Huge Win Lehigh!
Way to go Lehigh and Norfolk State!
F C S
F C S
F C S !!!!!
Mr. C
March 16th, 2012, 11:48 PM
DAMMIT
Huge ups to Lehigh, in my 9-10 years of being a Duke fan I can't remember a game where I've seen them play that bad. Didn't hustle for loose balls, missed wide open looks... damn damn damn. McCollum is a beast although he did shoot about 20 free throws but Duke certainly didn't deserve to win. Duke's last 3 games against VT, FSU and Lehigh they couldn't get near as good of looks as they did in all the prior games and Ryan Kelly's absence is the reason for that. Wow did we need him.
Told you so. You should have listened to what we were saying about McCollum. What happened to your boy who was going to eat McCollum's lunch?
LakesBison
March 17th, 2012, 01:14 AM
NDSU CHAMPIONSHIP is rubbing off on Lehigh huge props to them, that is awesome!!!!
ngineer
March 17th, 2012, 01:14 AM
What a night. I'm in St. Louis where our wrestlers are also doing very well--TWO finalists tomorrow night for national championships--during the matches various people were getting play by play via cell phones, etc. Just got back from a bar. I picked my Mountain Hawks to win in my bracket, and not just due to the heart. I really thought we could play with them after the way the team played Michigan State tough back in December. Bring on the Musketeers!
HailSzczur
March 17th, 2012, 01:35 AM
DAMMIT
Huge ups to Lehigh, in my 9-10 years of being a Duke fan I can't remember a game where I've seen them play that bad. Didn't hustle for loose balls, missed wide open looks... damn damn damn. McCollum is a beast although he did shoot about 20 free throws but Duke certainly didn't deserve to win. Duke's last 3 games against VT, FSU and Lehigh they couldn't get near as good of looks as they did in all the prior games and Ryan Kelly's absence is the reason for that. Wow did we need him.
This game was pretty bad too.... statistically worse actually:
http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=294000029
23 pt loss....16/60 from the field....5/27 from 3
Mr. C
March 17th, 2012, 01:41 AM
This game was pretty bad too.... statistically worse actually:
http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=294000029
23 pt loss....16/60 from the field....5/27 from 3
A lot of us around Philly really enjoyed that game.
Cleets
March 17th, 2012, 01:42 AM
It would take a miracle for Lehigh to beat my squad. Duke was beating MSU by like 20 with 10 minutes left earlier in the year, but they stopped playing at the end. Rivers will dominate McCollum.
"Beat my squad" for the life of me I'll never understand that attitude
Didn't go to school there
Doesn't play college basketball
Is in no way involved with Duke or their program...
Duke is in no way "your squad"
xcrazyx xcoffeex
TheValleyRaider
March 17th, 2012, 01:59 AM
Great win LEHIGH!
Huge PL victory, huge Lehigh victory! Was going nuts in the bar watching the little Patriot League team topple mighty Duke. Well done sirs, well done xsmileyclapx xsmileyclapx xsmileyclapx
Also have to give it up for Norfolk taking down Mizzou! Big win for the Spartans!
Drinks all around xbeerchugx
asumike83
March 17th, 2012, 08:48 AM
"Beat my squad" for the life of me I'll never understand that attitude
Didn't go to school there
Doesn't play college basketball
Is in no way involved with Duke or their program...
Duke is in no way "your squad"
xcrazyx xcoffeex
You see this type of thing more with UNC than Duke, but college basketball is just a way of life in North Carolina. I know people that are 3rd generation Rams Club members (the UNC booster club) that did not attend a single class in Crapel Hill. When you're involved in heated arguments with friends, family, teachers, parents, etc. about college basketball from age 5 on, kids develop a connection to the team they root for well before they are college age. I do not know one person that took the "I'm neutral until I find out where I'm going to college" route, you are almost required to pick a side unless you just want to sit in a corner by yourself while everyone else you know talks ACC hoops.
I am as die-hard a Mountaineer as you'll find, I absolutely bleed black and gold. My time, travel and money will never go to another school but I grew up rooting for Duke. While I do not have the vested interest in Duke basketball that I did as a kid growing up in the Triangle, I do like to see them win. I'm not particularly upset that they lost at all, it was a great game. However, if this game had happened when I was 16 years old, my reaction would have been very much the same as his.
ASU_Fanatic, I got your back! As long as you ditch that Duke blue when you come up the mountain for school, you root as hard as you want to.
Seawolf97
March 17th, 2012, 11:48 AM
Congratulations to Norfolk St and Lehigh ! Knocking off two national powers has to feel sweet.xbowx
HailSzczur
March 17th, 2012, 12:05 PM
A lot of us around Philly really enjoyed that game.
Game ended on my birthday. What a present, to watch your walk ons tearing into duke.
What was even better was going up 2 days later to watch them beat PITT
ASU_Fanatic
March 17th, 2012, 01:55 PM
You see this type of thing more with UNC than Duke, but college basketball is just a way of life in North Carolina. I know people that are 3rd generation Rams Club members (the UNC booster club) that did not attend a single class in Crapel Hill. When you're involved in heated arguments with friends, family, teachers, parents, etc. about college basketball from age 5 on, kids develop a connection to the team they root for well before they are college age. I do not know one person that took the "I'm neutral until I find out where I'm going to college" route, you are almost required to pick a side unless you just want to sit in a corner by yourself while everyone else you know talks ACC hoops.
I am as die-hard a Mountaineer as you'll find, I absolutely bleed black and gold. My time, travel and money will never go to another school but I grew up rooting for Duke. While I do not have the vested interest in Duke basketball that I did as a kid growing up in the Triangle, I do like to see them win. I'm not particularly upset that they lost at all, it was a great game. However, if this game had happened when I was 16 years old, my reaction would have been very much the same as his.
ASU_Fanatic, I got your back! As long as you ditch that Duke blue when you come up the mountain for school, you root as hard as you want to.
Thank you! People just don't understand it unless you're from around here. I remember crying my eyes out when that team in 2004 blew that final 4 game to Connecticut, that was the team with Duhon, Deng and Redick. I remember I started watching Duke when I was 7-8 and fell in love with J.J. Redick, wow could he shoot the lights out. Redick was the first athlete I really admired and looked up to. Then the next era of stars came along such as Gerald Henderson, Kyle Singler, Nolan Smith, etc and I never miss a game. I was born to hate Carolina, my dad grew up in the mountains but was actually a Georgia Tech fan growing up... he just told me from day 1 I can like anyone BUT UNC. Sure enough I fell in love with their arch-rival 8 miles away. My uncle has Duke season tickets in his family and I've seen many games in Cameron, it is an unreal experience.
ASU_Fanatic
March 17th, 2012, 01:58 PM
"Beat my squad" for the life of me I'll never understand that attitude
Didn't go to school there
Doesn't play college basketball
Is in no way involved with Duke or their program...
Duke is in no way "your squad"
xcrazyx xcoffeex
Considering you're a fan of 7 teams, at least 6 of those aren't your "squad" and in no way are you affiliated with them.
ASU_Fanatic
March 17th, 2012, 01:58 PM
This game was pretty bad too.... statistically worse actually:
http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=294000029
23 pt loss....16/60 from the field....5/27 from 3Ahh I remember that game! Painful! But last night was worse.
Cleets
March 17th, 2012, 07:04 PM
You see this type of thing more with UNC than Duke, but college basketball is just a way of life in North Carolina. I know people that are 3rd generation Rams Club members (the UNC booster club) that did not attend a single class in Crapel Hill. When you're involved in heated arguments with friends, family, teachers, parents, etc. about college basketball from age 5 on, kids develop a connection to the team they root for well before they are college age. I do not know one person that took the "I'm neutral until I find out where I'm going to college" route, you are almost required to pick a side unless you just want to sit in a corner by yourself while everyone else you know talks ACC hoops.
I am as die-hard a Mountaineer as you'll find, I absolutely bleed black and gold. My time, travel and money will never go to another school but I grew up rooting for Duke. While I do not have the vested interest in Duke basketball that I did as a kid growing up in the Triangle, I do like to see them win. I'm not particularly upset that they lost at all, it was a great game. However, if this game had happened when I was 16 years old, my reaction would have been very much the same as his.
ASU_Fanatic, I got your back! As long as you ditch that Duke blue when you come up the mountain for school, you root as hard as you want to.
My Dad went to UNC when I was in grade school
but we lived in Durham
I used to go to UNC games when about 1000 people were in the stands - I'm not making that up... we just walked in as kids... no one even asked us for tickets
and now we've got this - where we have DIE HARD fans from 400 miles away - for no apparent reason - Times change I guess
Cleets
March 17th, 2012, 07:07 PM
Considering you're a fan of 7 teams, at least 6 of those aren't your "squad" and in no way are you affiliated with them.
Talking smack and being a die-hard life long (inexplicable) fan fanatic
isn't quite how I'd describe my feelings for any team - anywhere - ever...
But ASUmike83 cleared things up for me
bonarae
March 18th, 2012, 05:19 AM
No more Murray. xsmhx
TheRevSFA
March 18th, 2012, 10:09 AM
That sucks that Murray lost
ursus arctos horribilis
March 18th, 2012, 01:42 PM
and now we've got this - where we have DIE HARD fans from 400 miles away - for no apparent reason - Times change I guess
Times do change and acting like a man has changed. Now you wear some other dudes jersey, you act like you live and die by what some guys you'll never know do on a court, field, etc...
Can you imagine that **** happening back in the 50's, 60's, 70's?
Anyway, it's probably part of the reason that boards like AGS have a decent following so...
Cleets
March 18th, 2012, 06:20 PM
Times do change and acting like a man has changed. Now you wear some other dudes jersey, you act like you live and die by what some guys you'll never know do on a court, field, etc...
Can you imagine that **** happening back in the 50's, 60's, 70's?
Anyway, it's probably part of the reason that boards like AGS have a decent following so...
Hey,
I'm the only one allowed to prance around on my high horse on this site...
go bug somebody else while I'm pontificating over here
BlueHenSinfonian
March 18th, 2012, 08:24 PM
Times do change and acting like a man has changed. Now you wear some other dudes jersey, you act like you live and die by what some guys you'll never know do on a court, field, etc...
Can you imagine that **** happening back in the 50's, 60's, 70's?
Anyway, it's probably part of the reason that boards like AGS have a decent following so...
I wasn't around for any of those decades, but didn't MLB have the same sort of sway back then? Outside of NY and Boston crazy baseball fandom seems to have died down a bit, but I remember even as a kid growing up in the 80s baseball cards were a big deal and people talked about Canseco and Strawberry like they were superhuman.
HailSzczur
March 18th, 2012, 10:02 PM
I wasn't around for any of those decades, but didn't MLB have the same sort of sway back then? Outside of NY and Boston crazy baseball fandom seems to have died down a bit, but I remember even as a kid growing up in the 80s baseball cards were a big deal and people talked about Canseco and Strawberry like they were superhuman.
I come from a long line of Red Sox fans, and my when they won the world series in 2004 it was actually like Bill Simmons Now I Can Die in Peace. My grandfather passed away in 2006 and my family, my grandmother especially, was very happy that he got to see a world championship in his life time. My dad also tells a story about one of his very old aunts who had the whole family worried because she wouldn't answer the phone all day. The rushed over to see what was wrong, if she had fallen or something, and found her listening to game 2 of a doubleheader on the radio. She wouldn't answer the phone during the game.
I think true fanaticism like that has died down quite a bit. You still see a lot of people "living and dying" by sports teams and players, but with all the technology and access to games we have it's completely different now a days.
ngineer
March 18th, 2012, 11:59 PM
Well, Cinderalla turns into a pumpkin, but what a run. An uncharacteristic cold spell, but it happens. Very proud of these guys. They were out sized, but not out hearted. Most of the team is back next year, so they have much to look forward.
bonarae
March 19th, 2012, 04:14 AM
I think true fanaticism like that has died down quite a bit. You still see a lot of people "living and dying" by sports teams and players, but with all the technology and access to games we have it's completely different now a days.
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