Projected Chattanooga Mocs Starting lineups 2012

[chattownmocs]

Offense

QB- Terrell Robinson So. 2011 SOCON freshman of the year

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RB- Keon Williams So. 2010 SOCON all-freshman team

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FB- Taharin Tyson So.

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LT- Brandon Morgan So.

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LG- Austin Wilson Sr.

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C- Patrick Sutton So.

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RG- Kevin Revis Jr.

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RT- Adam Miller- Jr.

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TE- Faysal Shaffaat So. 2011 freshman all SOCON

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WR- Marlon Anthony Jr. 2010 Freshman All soscon

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WR- Al Thompson Fr.

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[I-16Bandit]

Offense

QB- Terrell Robinson So.

http://www.gpb.org/files/imagecache/340x255/robinson1-1.jpg

This kid scares me.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Has anyone seen my car?

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[Apphole]

Here comes an epic look-alike thread!

[Twentysix]

I heard chattown is being taken out of the starting lineup for chatty posters around week 7.

[TheRevSFA]

Ladies and Gentlemen, the faces of another Chatty team that loses to App State, GA South, and Wofford...

[Apphole]

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[chattownmocs]

Defense

DE- Josh Williams Sr. UTC all time leading sack artist

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DE- Davis Tull So. 2011 Freshman All SOCON

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DT- Toyvian Brand So.

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DT- Josh Freeman So. 2011 Freshman all Socon

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MLB- Wes Dothard Jr. 2011 All-American

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OLB- Gunner Miller Jr. 2010 Freshamn All SOCON

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OLB- Alex Kirby Fr. 2011 GHSA defensive player of the year

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CB- Kadeem Wise Jr. 2010 SOCON freshman of the year, 2011 all SOCON

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CB- Chaz Moore Jr.

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S- DJ Key Jr. 2011 All-SOCON

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S- Cam Montgomery So.

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[TheRevSFA]

Offense

LT- Brandon Morgan So.

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http://www.avatune.com/pics/300305244.jpg ??

[Apphole]

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[chattownmocs]

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[TheRevSFA]

Defense


OLB- Alex Kirby Fr.

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[chattownmocs]

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http://mmii.info/icons/loismustdie08/cartoons_bobbyHill.gif

That one is actually funny, bravo.

[chattownmocs]

Georgia Class AA defensive player of the year.

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[Apphole]

That one is actually funny, bravo.
xthumbsupx

[TheRevSFA]

Georgia Class AA defensive player of the year.

and I think he's won a grammy as well....

[TheRevSFA]

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Apphole again.

xthumbsupx

[Apphole]

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[chattownmocs]

This team is still so young even with 18 starters back. There could definitely be a run of 2-3 SOCON titles in a row coming up. The defense is just too damn good.

[chattownmocs]

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Fail

[TheRevSFA]

Defense


DT- Toyvian Brand So.

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[pike51]

This team is still so young even with 18 starters back. There could definitely be a run of 2-3 SOCON titles in a row coming up. The defense is just too damn good.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

I just peed myself.

[boonedocks]

"Projected Chattanooga Mocs Starting lineups 2012"

aka: The All SoCon first team....amirite chattown?

[chattownmocs]

"Projected Chattanooga Mocs Starting lineups 2012"

aka: The All SoCon first team....amirite chattown?

There are about 10 that are good enough.

[Apphole]

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[chattownmocs]

If the offensive line raises its level to just average instead of awful, Chattanooga will be pretty much unstoppable.

[Silenoz]

If the offensive line raises its level to just average instead of awful, Chattanooga will be pretty much unstoppable.
Oh. ****.

*forfeits season*

[chattownmocs]

Terrell will become the Cam Newton of FCS as far as on-field performance goes.

[Silenoz]

What are your score predictions for UTC's 4 playoff games?

[asumike83]

Terrell will become the Cam Newton of FCS as far as on-field performance goes.

You mean you'll get one year out of him? Aim high, shoot for him becoming Armanti!

[blueballs]

Ladies and gentlemen:

We have just seen the unveiling of the greatest team in modern SoCon history... better than App in 2006 & 2007, GSU in 1998 & 1999, or Marshall in 1995 & 1996. Actually, this team will go down as better and more feared than the two greatest teams in the sub-division's history- Marshall 1995 and GSU 1989.

This team will average at least 60 ppg and give no more than 3 ppg. No opponent's starters will score on Chatty's starters and no team's starters will force either a punt or a turnover from Chatty's starters.

Nick Saban will beg the entire team to transfer to Bammer and he will medically redshirt his entire team and then go 13-0 and not give up a point in the SEC.

We are all not worthy... but we are priviledged to watch the great and awe inspiring Mocs in action.

[Twentysix]

Maybe chatty will finally get that nationwide nbc tv deal they deserve.

[chattownmocs]

You mean you'll get one year out of him? Aim high, shoot for him becoming Armanti!

Why because he is black? He is nothing like Armanti Edwards style wise. He is bigger, stronger, and slower. He is very similar to Newton as far as style.

[blueballs]

He can't be like Armanti because Armanti actually LOST a game while at App... nope, he's got to be like Cam, who went undefeated during his brief tenure at Auburn.

Chatty's guy will never take the field and not score. They will not punt nor will they turn it over while he's at the helm.

[asumike83]

Why because he is black? He is nothing like Armanti Edwards style wise. He is bigger, stronger, and slower. He is very similar to Newton as far as style.

I was thinking because he's a dual threat QB that plays in the SoCon. He may be taller but at 195 pounds, he's much closer to Armanti than he is Cam Newton in terms of overall size. I obviously haven't seen as much of him as you but from what I saw against GSU, he seemed more like a guy who can run by you like Armanti than run through you like Cam.

Well... that and he's black, unlike Cam.

[blueballs]

Maybe chatty will finally get that nationwide nbc tv deal they deserve.

Every network that televised college football will televise every Chatty game. It will be a ratings bonanza on every single channel- must see TV, hundreds of millions will tune in... even the 3,000,000,000 chinese Reggie Jackson spoke of will care and tune in.

[boonedocks]

Why because he is black? He is nothing like Armanti Edwards style wise. He is bigger, stronger, and slower. He is very similar to Newton as far as style.

Similar style to Newton except for that whole, being able to complete a pass thing, that Cam does.

[chattownmocs]

I was thinking because he's a dual threat QB that plays in the SoCon. He may be taller but at 195 pounds, he's much closer to Armanti than he is Cam Newton in terms of overall size. I obviously haven't seen as much of him as you but from what I saw against GSU, he seemed more like a guy who can run by you like Armanti than run through you like Cam.

Well... that and he's black, unlike Cam.

He's not very fast just smooth and guys just fall of of him when they try and tackle him. Almost exactly like Cam when he is running the ball.

[chattownmocs]

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/video?gameId=312810290


http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/video?gameId=312952210


A young Cam IMO

[chattownmocs]

Similar style to Newton except for that whole, being able to complete a pass thing, that Cam does.

Right, he never completed a pass. Cool story.

[Silenoz]

Right, he never completed a pass. Cool story.
I enjoyed it

[boonedocks]

Right, he never completed a pass. Cool story.

My bad, you are right...he completed 3: one to his guy for 3 yds, and two to the other team.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=313020236

[chattownmocs]

My bad, you are right...he completed 3: one to his guy for 3 yds, and two to the other team.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=313020236

Yeah his pass efficiency rating was over 20 points higher than your boy Jackson.

He also hit on a higher percentage of his passes.

But hey he did play a bad game. You really did a nice job of proving your point.

[asumike83]

Yeah his pass efficiency rating was over 20 points higher than your boy Jackson.

He also hit on a higher percentage of his passes.

That is true but comparing a 43 attempt sample to a 262 attempt sample is somewhat apples to oranges. His completion percentage was 1.3% better but he was not asked to pass nearly as much. He had more rushing yards than passing yards and had 90 rushes to 43 passes.

I'm not saying the kid can't throw the ball but the question does remain whether he can stand in the there and read a defense once teams key in on his running ability and keep him in the pocket. I think Robinson could be a dynamic player but now that teams will have more game film and be preparing to face him, he needs to polish that aspect of his game.

[boonedocks]

I agree, I just like having fun with 'ol Chattown.

[blueballs]

Now you App boys need to stop downing the greatest QB to ever don a pair of spikes in this division. The boy Chatty's going to trot out this year will be better than Armanti, Dave Dickenson, Steve McNair and Tracy Ham COMBINED.

[Apphole]

Now you App boys need to stop downing the greatest QB to ever don a pair of spikes in this division. The boy Chatty's going to trot out this year will be better than Armanti, Dave Dickenson, Steve McNair and Tracy Ham COMBINED.

Is that because HE'S BLACK!!!

[chattownmocs]

That is true but comparing a 43 attempt sample to a 262 attempt sample is somewhat apples to oranges. His completion percentage was 1.3% better but he was not asked to pass nearly as much. He had more rushing yards than passing yards and had 90 rushes to 43 passes.

I'm not saying the kid can't throw the ball but the question does remain whether he can stand in the there and read a defense once teams key in on his running ability and keep him in the pocket. I think Robinson could be a dynamic player but now that teams will have more game film and be preparing to face him, he needs to polish that aspect of his game.

Yeah. I'm not making the point that he is currently as good as the NFL's number 1 pick and rookie of the year. I was comparing styles and maybe a little bit of that "it" factor. Robinson needs to step up his passing game but you don't have to be an elite passer to really hurt a defense when you have that dual threat. And lastly, I wouldn't say someone who hit 27 of 43 passes "can't complete a pass."

[Smitty]

Really? i think it is a little too early to start this crap up. At least get to spring practice...

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Yeah his pass efficiency rating was over 20 points higher than your boy Jackson.

He also hit on a higher percentage of his passes.

But hey he did play a bad game. You really did a nice job of proving your point.

Boy?

Bigot


xcoffeex

[blueballs]

Is that because HE'S BLACK!!!

Nah, his greatness transcends race... he's pure gold!!!!!

[PaladinFan]

Terrell will become the Cam Newton of FCS as far as on-field performance goes.

Wasn't he the same kid that threw for three yards against Furman?

[The Eagle's Cliff]

Chatty plays 5 games in September:
@ South Fla
@ Jax St.
vs Glenville St.
vs App St.
@ Citadel

2-3 at best with Furman, Samford, and Ga Southern in October. Thankfully, chattown still has 6 1/2 months to entertain us before he disappears again.

[blueballs]

Chatty plays 5 games in September:
@ South Fla


I might have to mosey on down to Tampa and check that one out, and maybe get myself on SportsCenter (it'll be the lead story) after Chatty beats USF 70-0.

[seantaylor]

Chatty goes 5-6

[Twentysix]

Chatty goes 5-6 indefinitly

fify

[chattownmocs]

Chatty plays 5 games in September:
@ South Fla
@ Jax St.
vs Glenville St.
vs App St.
@ Citadel

2-3 at best with Furman, Samford, and Ga Southern in October. Thankfully, chattown still has 6 1/2 months to entertain us before he disappears again.

They are clear favorites in 4 of those games.

[Smitty]

They are clear favorites in 4 of those games.

Clear favorites? If you play like you did last year I would say you are underdogs for all of them.

At most you pick up wins against Glenville St., Cit, and Jax St...

[chattownmocs]

Clear favorites? If you play like you did last year I would say you are underdogs for all of them.

At most you pick up wins against Glenville St., Cit, and Jax St...

If we play like we did last year we should be favorites over those teams. If we play like we should as a team returning who we return we should be close to double digit favorites in all of those games except South Florida.

[ASUMountaineer]

They are clear favorites in 4 of those games.

You're right...Chatty will have its hands full with Glenville St.

[Redbirdz]

Chatty would be the underdog against Jax State.

[The Eagle's Cliff]

They are clear favorites in 4 of those games.

Even if Chatty is improved, App and The Citadel are allowed to improve too, right? Chatty should be favored vs Glennville St, dogs @ S Fla and vs App St., and pick 'em @ Jax St and @ The Citadel with the edge going to the home team. 1-4 wouldn't shock anyone except you.

[chattownmocs]

Chatty would be the underdog against Jax State.

Yeah, no

[asumike83]

If we play like we did last year we should be favorites over those teams. If we play like we should as a team returning who we return we should be close to double digit favorites in all of those games except South Florida.

That is assuming all those teams play the same as last year. I can't speak to the others but ASU is going to be a completely different team than you saw last year. The 2011 game against UTC was before the QB switch with terrible offensive play calling and ASU still found a way to win. Jackson will be back with some experience under his belt and the benefit of a competent offensive coordinator. Y'all have to not only improve, but improve more than us.

[chattownmocs]

Even if Chatty is improved, App and The Citadel are allowed to improve too, right? Chatty should be favored vs Glennville St, dogs @ S Fla and vs App St., and pick 'em @ Jax St and @ The Citadel with the edge going to the home team. 1-4 wouldn't shock anyone except you.

We return 9 offensive starters including an entire offensive line. We get back Keon Williams, I bet you don't know who that is or how good he is. We return 9 defensive starters from #1 total and scoring defense in the SOCON. We went 3-5 last year in the SOCON. If that's as far as you look MAYBE you are are right. If anyone actually looks at the results they will see that we won those 3 games by 30 ppg and lost those 5 by about 2. Let's say that this trend continues and they still can't win close games and blow a huge lead. They will still be highly competitive in every game. And will blow out 5 teams because they are going to be better. Let's say they don't improve overall but win the games in which they outplay the opponent they will go 5-3 or 6-2 in that case. If they win the games when they outplay the opponent and improve they will probably go 7-1 or 8-0. No, this team should not be a road dog at the Citadel or Jacksonville State or a Home dog against Appalachian State. Will they be? Maybe, because there are alot of people like you who aren't very knowledgeable andthe goal of vegas is simply to get equal bets both ways. But if SOCON football was really looked at and analyzed like say, SEC football. Chattanooga would be an obvious choice as a top 2 pick in the SOCON this year.

[Smitty]

Yeah but the 3 wins you did have were against the worst teams in the league. Well minus Samford since they did finish ahead of you...

[PaladinFan]

We return 9 offensive starters including an entire offensive line. We get back Keon Williams, I bet you don't know who that is or how good he is. We return 9 defensive starters from #1 total and scoring defense in the SOCON. We went 3-5 last year in the SOCON. If that's as far as you look MAYBE you are are right. If anyone actually looks at the results they will see that we won those 3 games by 30 ppg and lost those 5 by about 2. Let's say that this trend continues and they still can't win close games and blow a huge lead. They will still be highly competitive in every game. And will blow out 5 teams because they are going to be better. Let's say they don't improve overall but win the games in which they outplay the opponent they will go 5-3 or 6-2 in that case. If they win the games when they outplay the opponent and improve they will probably go 7-1 or 8-0. No, this team should not be a road dog at the Citadel or Jacksonville State or a Home dog against Appalachian State. Will they be? Maybe, because there are alot of people like you who aren't very knowledgeable andthe goal of vegas is simply to get equal bets both ways. But if SOCON football was really looked at and analyzed like say, SEC football. Chattanooga would be an obvious choice as a top 2 pick in the SOCON this year.

If Ingle Martin had not slipped in Boone, Furman would have its second national championship. He did. We lost.

I believe Bill Parcels was famously (or not so famously) quoted as saying "you are what your record says you are."

[DJKyR0]

OLB- Alex Kirby Fr. 2011 GHSA defensive player of the year

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That dude's head looks like it was photoshopped in.

[chattownmocs]

If Ingle Martin had not slipped in Boone, Furman would have its second national championship. He did. We lost.

I believe Bill Parcels was famously (or not so famously) quoted as saying "you are what your record says you are."

Did he say "you are what your record was last year"

[chattownmocs]

That dude's head looks like it was photoshopped in.

I don't really get the idea that he doesn't look like a good football player. But I don't really care what he looks like. He was one of the best players in Georgia the last few years.

Here is some junior film on him. He is a football player and I bet he will be an All-American before his career is over.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orShcev_cro

[blueballs]

Chatty would be the underdog against Jax State.

C'mon now!!!!

Chatty wouldn't be the underdog against the Jax Jaguars, let alone Jax State.

[ASUMountaineer]

We return 9 offensive starters including an entire offensive line. We get back Keon Williams, I bet you don't know who that is or how good he is. We return 9 defensive starters from #1 total and scoring defense in the SOCON. We went 3-5 last year in the SOCON. If that's as far as you look MAYBE you are are right. If anyone actually looks at the results they will see that we won those 3 games by 30 ppg and lost those 5 by about 2. Let's say that this trend continues and they still can't win close games and blow a huge lead. They will still be highly competitive in every game. And will blow out 5 teams because they are going to be better. Let's say they don't improve overall but win the games in which they outplay the opponent they will go 5-3 or 6-2 in that case. If they win the games when they outplay the opponent and improve they will probably go 7-1 or 8-0. No, this team should not be a road dog at the Citadel or Jacksonville State or a Home dog against Appalachian State. Will they be? Maybe, because there are alot of people like you who aren't very knowledgeable andthe goal of vegas is simply to get equal bets both ways. But if SOCON football was really looked at and analyzed like say, SEC football. Chattanooga would be an obvious choice as a top 2 pick in the SOCON this year.

Super Bowl XLVII pick: University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Mocs 85 - Green Bay Packers 10

You heard it hear first, folks.

By far, you are the funniest poster on this site. Your trolling skills are unmatched...keep up the good work, champ. xlolx

[blueballs]

Super Bowl XLVII pick: University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Mocs 85 - Green Bay Packers 10

You heard it hear first, folks.

By far, you are the funniest poster on this site. Your trolling skills are unmatched...keep up the good work, champ. xlolx

The Packers wouldn't get 10.

[TheRevSFA]

Super Bowl XLVII pick: University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Mocs 85 - Green Bay Packers 10

You heard it hear first, folks.

By far, you are the funniest poster on this site. Your trolling skills are unmatched...keep up the good work, champ. xlolx

You're wrong..it'll be the UT-C Mocs starters vs the UT-C Mocs backups (since they are that good)..and they will tie...

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Why is this thread 8 pages?

[chattownmocs]

Super Bowl XLVII pick: University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Mocs 85 - Green Bay Packers 10

You heard it hear first, folks.

By far, you are the funniest poster on this site. Your trolling skills are unmatched...keep up the good work, champ. xlolx

I think what you meant to say was, "I can't really argue with any of your points because they are all steeped in sound logic so I'm just going to call you a troll."

Try again. There are about 5 posters trolling this thread and I am certainly not one of them.

[TheRevSFA]

I think what you meant to say was, "I can't really argue with any of your points because they are all steeped in sound logic so I'm just going to call you a troll."

Try again. There are about 5 posters trolling this thread and I am certainly one of them.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/79847/1464813-trolls_super.jpg

[DJKyR0]

I don't really get the idea that he doesn't look like a good football player. But I don't really care what he looks like. He was one of the best players in Georgia the last few years.

Here is some junior film on him. He is a football player and I bet he will be an All-American before his career is over.

Don't recall having said anything about how he looked having any sort of impact on his ability as a football player. Just looks like he's 15 is all.

[chattownmocs]

Don't recall having said anything about how he looked having any sort of impact on his ability as a football player. Just looks like he's 15 is all.

No. Of course I thought alot of yall's players looked 30 so who knows.

[DJKyR0]

No. Of course I thought alot of yall's players looked 30 so who knows.

It's all the cheese the Wisconsin guys eat.

[chattownmocs]

Don't recall having said anything about how he looked having any sort of impact on his ability as a football player. Just looks like he's 15 is all.

Also I'm thinking that pic was taken about a year ago for the "Chattanooga Times best of preps" So he was 16 or 17. I'm not sure how old you expect a high school kid to look.

[PaladinFan]

Did he say "you are what your record was last year"

No. He said it in response to everyone talking about how good the Dallas Cowboys should have been.

[chattownmocs]

No. He said it after the season was over when everyone talked about how good the Dallas Cowboys should have been.

Was his point that the Cowboys would also have the same record the next year?

[citdog]

http://www.citadelsports.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20111001al5nr0


excellent read

[asumike83]

Was his point that the Cowboys would also have the same record the next year?

I believe his point in regards to how it applies here is that you are returning 18 starters from a 5-6 team, not returning 18 starters from an almost 9-2 team.

[The Eagle's Cliff]

But if SOCON football was really looked at and analyzed like say, SEC football. Chattanooga would be an obvious choice as a top 2 pick in the SOCON this year.

Now you make sense. I totally get that you're thinking like Vols and Dawgs fans which is "wait 'til next year". Meanwhile 'Bama and LSU (GSU and App St.) still kick your butts along with South Carolina (Furman) and Florida (Wofford).

I'm ready for my October 27 trip to "Nooga. I've already purchased a respirator and special Hydra Shocks for my .380 (gotta have stopping power) in case I have to walk more than 30 feet outside Finley Stadium.

[Apphole]

Now you make sense. I totally get that you're thinking like Vols and Dawgs fans which is "wait 'til next year". Meanwhile 'Bama and LSU (GSU and App St.) still kick your butts along with South Carolina (Furman) and Florida (Wofford).

I'm ready for my October 27 trip to "Nooga. I've already purchased a respirator and special Hydra Shocks for my .380 (gotta have stopping power) in case I have to walk more than 30 feet outside Finley Stadium.

Terrific analogy

[chattownmocs]

I believe his point in regards to how it applies here is that you are returning 18 starters from a 5-6 team, not returning 18 starters from an almost 9-2 team.

When projecting how good Chattanooga or any team will be next year I'd say it would be a much smarter strategy to actually look at how talented a team was and how competitive they were overall and in different areas rather than simply look at their overall record.

[chattownmocs]

Now you make sense. I totally get that you're thinking like Vols and Dawgs fans which is "wait 'til next year". Meanwhile 'Bama and LSU (GSU and App St.) still kick your butts along with South Carolina (Furman) and Florida (Wofford).

I'm ready for my October 27 trip to "Nooga. I've already purchased a respirator and special Hydra Shocks for my .380 (gotta have stopping power) in case I have to walk more than 30 feet outside Finley Stadium.

Georgia won 10 games last year and played for the SEC title. They'll be close to preseason top 5 and probably will be back in the SEC title again. But I'm not a Georgia fan you fail. Now if Tennessee lost at LSU by 2, Lost at Bama by 1, lost to South Carolina by 7 and Florida by 1 as well as returned 20 starters like they do, don't you think they'd be one of the favorites? But Great analogy

[The Eagle's Cliff]

Georgia won 10 games last year and played for the SEC title. They'll be close to preseason top 5 and probably will be back in the SEC title again. But I'm not a Georgia fan you fail. Now if Tennessee lost at LSU by 2, Lost at Bama by 1, lost to South Carolina by 7 and Florida by 1 as well as returned 20 starters like they do, don't you think they'd be one of the favorites? Great point there reject.

More like Miss St, but since you're a delusional Vols fan it seemed a better fit.

[chattownmocs]

More like Miss St, but since you're a delusional Vols fan it seemed a better fit.

What about Mississippi State? Try again.

[asumike83]

When projecting how good Chattanooga or any team will be next year I'd say it would be a much smarter strategy to actually look at how talented a team was and how competitive they were overall and in different areas rather than simply look at their overall record.

That is true to a certain extent, I was just talking about how the Parcells quote applied. Don't get me wrong, if Chattanooga does not improve on the 5-6 record they put up last season, I would be surprised. However, placing them as a favorite does not account properly for all the talent returning for GSU, ASU, Furman and Wofford, all of whom finished above them in the standings, beat them head to head and bring back a ton of key players.

[chattownmocs]

That is true to a certain extent, I was just talking about how the Parcells quote applied. Don't get me wrong, if Chattanooga does not improve on the 5-6 record they put up last season, I would be surprised. However, placing them as a favorite does not account properly for all the talent returning for GSU, ASU, Furman and Wofford, all of whom finished above them in the standings, beat them head to head and bring back a ton of key players.

Georgia Southern should be picked first. None of the others have enough coming back to be picked ahead of Chattanooga. Does that mean they won't finish ahead of them? No. But I wouldn't slot them ahead based on what they have returning.

[asknoquarter21]

Georgia Southern should be picked first. None of the others have enough coming back to be picked ahead of a team they beat by the narrowest of margins.

Why?

I get your experience argument, but who is to say that a sophomore with one year of experience is better than a Junior who has sat 3 years behind an all american learning.

A 5-6 team returning a ton of starters doesn't mean all that much. Please tell me why Alabama isn't terrible every few years when they have so many players that leave.

[mountaineer in Cane Land]

Chatt has made alot of progress the last 3 years, but every year we keep waiting for them to "break thru" to the upper level of the conference, and it just hasn't happen. They have alot of talent, but they just don't seem to know how to win, especially the close games. As for next year, I don't expect anything different from past years, somewhere in the middle of the pack. The Chatt offensive line was the worst in the conference the past 3 years, and I don't see that changing next season. To quoate the great Rick Flair, "to be the man, you have to beat the man", until Chatt starts beating, App, GS, and Wofford on a consistant basis, they are just a middle of the pack team.

[Rekdiver]

1 reason Chatty will stay middle of the road..........coaching mistakes.

[Apphole]

1 reason Chatty will stay middle of the road..........coaching mistakes.

Go for two!

[GlassOnion]

Georgia Southern should be picked first. None of the others have enough coming back to be picked ahead of Chattanooga. Does that mean they won't finish ahead of them? No. But I wouldn't slot them ahead based on what they have returning.

App returns 10 of 11 starters on a defense that sacked the Chatty QB 4 times, held them to 32 yards rushing, and 1.1 ypc, forced two fumbles, picked off Coleman twice, put him on the ground on half of Chatty's offensive plays, and scored 14 points. They also have 8 of 11 returning on offense. There is no reason for Chattanooga to be ranked ahead of ASU.

[chattownmocs]

App returns 10 of 11 starters on a defense that sacked the Chatty QB 4 times, held them to 32 yards rushing, and 1.1 ypc, forced two fumbles, picked off Coleman twice, put him on the ground on half of Chatty's offensive plays, and scored 14 points. They also have 8 of 11 returning on offense. There is no reason for Chattanooga to be ranked ahead of ASU.

Statement is false all the way through. Starting with the number of returning starters.

[GlassOnion]

Statement is false all the way through. Starting with the number of returning starters.

Please, enlighten us.

Here's the defensive starters list for Chatty/Appalachian State game, all but Wylie return.
Pos ## Defense
LE 96 James Robinson
NT 97 Dan Wylie
RE 49 Ronald Blair
WLB 24 Brandon Grier
MLB 33 J. Kimbrough
SLB 93 John Rizor
SS 9 Troy Sanders
SAF 18 D. McDuffie
FS 31 Doug Middleton
LCB 4 Rodger Walker
RCB 10 D. McCray

And we get back our second leading tackler from 2010, who was behind only DJ Smith of the GB Packers, he recieved a medical RS in 2011.

[chattownmocs]

Please, enlighten us.

Am I missing something?

Which one of these guys did not start last year?

Orry Frye
Matt Ruff
Xan Thomas
Ben Jordan
Travaris Cadet
Brian Quick

Ed Gainey
Gordy Witte
Dan Wylie

Didnt Daeandre Pressley also start on defense after he was benched at QB? If so he counts one way or the other if he started somewhere all year.

[GlassOnion]

Am I missing something?

Which one of these guys did not start last year?

Orry Frye
Matt Ruff
Xan Thomas
Ben Jordan
Travaris Cadet
Brian Quick

Ed Gainey
Gordy Witte
Dan Wylie

Didnt Daeandre Pressley also start on defense after he was benched at QB? If so he counts one way or the other if he started somewhere all year.

Xan Thomas started only one game. Ed Gainey, started only 3, Gordy Witte started 1. Deandre Pressley was not a starter, only played in the nickel package. Kendall Lamm only started half the games, so we have had two underclassman starters at LT, and considering we lose 2 OL, thats good for us. The list I posted earlier were the starters for the majority of games, and started against Chatty. This list is the offensive starters from the Chatty game.

Appalachian State
Pos ## Offense
LT 74 Kendall Lamm
LG 51 Sherman Holt
C 77 Alex Acey
RG 70 Matt Ruff
RT 64 Orry Frye
TE 84 Ben Jorden
WR 15 Tony Washington
WR 11 Andrew Peacock
WR 8 Brian Quick
QB 2 DeAndre Presley
RB 7 Travaris Cadet


Pressley did not end the year as our starting QB, and Graham Fisher, a soph. started the majority of games at LG.

[chattownmocs]

Xan Thomas started only one game. Ed Gainey, started only 3, Gordy Witte started 1. Deandre Pressley was not a starter, only played in the nickel package. Kendall Lamm only started half the games, so we have had two underclassman starters at LT, and considering we lose 2 OL, thats good for us. The list I posted earlier were the starters for the majority of games, and started against Chatty. This list is the offensive starters from the Chatty game.

Appalachian State
Pos ## Offense
LT 74 Kendall Lamm
LG 51 Sherman Holt
C 77 Alex Acey
RG 70 Matt Ruff
RT 64 Orry Frye
TE 84 Ben Jorden
WR 15 Tony Washington
WR 11 Andrew Peacock
WR 8 Brian Quick
QB 2 DeAndre Presley
RB 7 Travaris Cadet


Pressley did not end the year as our starting QB, and Graham Fisher, a soph. started the majority of games at LG.

Well, alright then. I though ya'll returned 13 or 14 offensive/defensive starters next year. If you legitimately return 17 or 18 you should and will be picked 2nd ahead of Chattanooga. But in order for ya'll to finish ahead of Chattanooga you are probably going to have to win at Chattanooga, and I wouldn't bet on that. Oh wait, I forgot, Ya'll have won more games there than we have. My bad.

[GlassOnion]

Well, alright then. I though ya'll returned 13 or 14 offensive/defensive starters next year. If you legitimately return 17 or 18 you should and will be picked 2nd ahead of Chattanooga. But in order for ya'll to finish ahead of Chattanooga you are probably going to have to win at Chattanooga, and I wouldn't bet on that. Oh wait, I forgot, Ya'll have won more games there than we have. My bad.

Im not betting on anything until I see our offense perform. I had Chattanooga ranked in the top ten at one point last year. A couple more plays and theyd have remained there.

[chattownmocs]

It looks like yall started alot of different people, which probably means that there wasn't a ton of difference between seniors and underclassmen. But in your last game against maine you started 4 seniors on offense and 5 on defense. Not sure how you get 8 offensive and 10 defensive returning out of that.

Usually when you talk about returning starters you are saying that this player was the primary starter or established himself as the starter at the end. I guess you could just list every player that has ever started a game in their career though.

[ASUMountaineer]

I think what you meant to say was, "I can't really argue with any of your points because they are all steeped in sound logic so I'm just going to call you a troll."

Try again. There are about 5 posters trolling this thread and I am certainly not one of them.

You got me...good work, gumshoe. xlolx

Settle down, I don't care to "argue" with you...besides, I was giving you a compliment. xthumbsupx

[asumike83]

It looks like yall started alot of different people, which probably means that there wasn't a ton of difference between seniors and underclassmen. But in your last game against maine you started 4 seniors on offense and 5 on defense. Not sure how you get 8 offensive and 10 defensive returning out of that.

Usually when you talk about returning starters you are saying that this player was the primary starter or established himself as the starter at the end. I guess you could just list every player that has ever started a game in their career though.

http://www.goasu.com/fls/21500/StatsHTML/football/2011/asu1203.htm#GAME.PRE

Against Maine we started 1 senior on defense and 5 on offense:

Appalachian State
Pos ## Defense
DE 96 James Robinson
NT 97 Dan Wylie
DE 49 Ronald Blair
BAN 93 John Rizor
WLB 24 Brandon Grier
MLB 33 J. Kimbrough
NIC 5 Jamill Lott
SS 9 Troy Sanders
FS 34 Patrick Blalock
LCB 4 Rodger Walker
RCB 10 D. McCray

LT 67 Ian Barnard
LG 55 Graham Fisher
C 77 Alex Acey
RG 51 Sherman Holt
RT 64 Orry Frye
TE 84 Ben Jorden
WR 15 Tony Washington
WR 8 Brian Quick
WR 11 Andrew Peacock
QB 12 Jamal Jackson
RB 29 C. Baker Boney

Based on the final game, we return 15 of 22 starters total. However, you are correct in that our starting line-up changed a lot throughout the year. We will get back Kendall Lamm who was suspended for the last few games of the year and was our starting LT until then. We also return Kalan Jones, who was our starter at LG but went down with a season-ending foot injury against VT. Those are two of our more talented linemen who are expected to return to the starting line-up in 2012. So, depending on how you define 'returning starter', we return either 15 or 17.

[GlassOnion]

According to the Maine pre game depth chart we started 1 senior, 7 Juniors, 1 Soph, and 2 Freshman DEs. We change players on offense according to who we play and who is healthy, we're always banged up at the end of the season, and the Maine game obviously wasnt exactly the best line up. I think we had 8 different starters at various times in the season on the OL line alone. Our true starting LG went down with a broken foot very early in the season, so you could say we actually had 3 starters at LG.

^ Mike's got it. I'd just like to add that Justin Wray is coming back on the defense. In 2010, that guy was a player. If he is healthy, he starts, regardless.

[chattownmocs]

http://www.goasu.com/fls/21500/StatsHTML/football/2011/asu1203.htm#GAME.PRE

Against Maine we started 1 senior on defense and 5 on offense:

Appalachian State
Pos ## Defense
DE 96 James Robinson
NT 97 Dan Wylie
DE 49 Ronald Blair
BAN 93 John Rizor
WLB 24 Brandon Grier
MLB 33 J. Kimbrough
NIC 5 Jamill Lott
SS 9 Troy Sanders
FS 34 Patrick Blalock
LCB 4 Rodger Walker
RCB 10 D. McCray

LT 67 Ian Barnard
LG 55 Graham Fisher
C 77 Alex Acey
RG 51 Sherman Holt
RT 64 Orry Frye
TE 84 Ben Jorden
WR 15 Tony Washington
WR 8 Brian Quick
WR 11 Andrew Peacock
QB 12 Jamal Jackson
RB 29 C. Baker Boney

Based on the final game, we return 15 of 22 starters total. However, you are correct in that our starting line-up changed a lot throughout the year. We will get back Kendall Lamm who was suspended for the last few games of the year and was our starting LT until then. We also return Kalan Jones, who was our starter at LG but went down with a season-ending foot injury against VT. Those are two of our more talented linemen who are expected to return to the starting line-up in 2012. So, depending on how you define 'returning starter', we return either 15 or 17.

http://www.goasu.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=21500&SPID=12811&SPSID=104461

Brandon Grier-senior
John Rizor-senior
Troy Sanders-senior
Demetrius Mccray-senior

Edit: NVM although I was correct in the fact that your website lists them as seniors, apparently they has academic year instead of eligibility. No redshirts are accounted for. They need to fix that.

[GlassOnion]

http://www.goasu.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=21500&SPID=12811&SPSID=104461

Brandon Grier-senior
John Rizor-senior
Troy Sanders-senior
Demetrius Mccray-senior

Those are this coming year's Seniors. They were Juniors last year. The Roster has already been updated, the only ones missing are this years signees.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I told you Tennessee was going to lose to Kentucky last year.....................................

[asknoquarter21]

Once again, returning starters means absolutely nothing unless you have good starters in those places.

We are returning a lot of talent in our secondary. That doesn't mean our secondary is going to be better than another position just because we return some of those guys. I think it will improve, but I also don't expect the same four starters to be starting at those positions. Doug Middleton will be starting at one CB position next year, and he isn't considered a starter now.

It looks like our D-Line lost one starter, but we lost three really good players who were bigtime contributors. On the other hand our four starting linebackers last year are all returning as well as all-american candidate Justin Wray. So are we returning five starters at Linebacker? I have no doubt we should have the top linebacker group in the nation next season.

[GlassOnion]

Once again, returning starters means absolutely nothing unless you have good starters in those places.

We are returning a lot of talent in our secondary. That doesn't mean our secondary is going to be better than another position just because we return some of those guys. I think it will improve, but I also don't expect the same four starters to be starting at those positions. Doug Middleton will be starting at one CB position next year, and he isn't considered a starter now.

It looks like our D-Line lost one starter, but we lost three really good players who were bigtime contributors. On the other hand our four starting linebackers last year are all returning as well as all-american candidate Justin Wray. So are we returning five starters at Linebacker? I have no doubt we should have the top linebacker group in the nation next season.


There are very good starters in place. Rodger Walker was a Wr at the start of last year, and made huuge strides at CB. I'm completely comfortable with him there and an off season under his belt. Middleton, Ross, and Barnes may all see some playing time. I have never seen an FCS team as loaded at LB and DB as next years team, and that is great considering our strength was the DL last year. The staff also brought in 2 more DBs this offseason that could contribute. Blackmon has been clocked in the 4.3s. Two good freshmen DEs are coming back with a years experience, and Blair capable of moving into the NT position along with Corbin, Burns, and Shuemake all at 300lbs, Small coming in at just under 300, and Milhouse at 275, we've got plenty of options and competition despite losing 3 big contributors at the DT position.

[chattownmocs]

I told you Tennessee was going to lose to Kentucky last year.....................................

I don't remember that. But I do remember you saying Montana at Tennessee would be close.

[PaladinFan]

There are very good starters in place. Rodger Walker was a Wr at the start of last year, and made huuge strides at CB. I'm completely comfortable with him there and an off season under his belt. Middleton, Ross, and Barnes may all see some playing time. I have never seen an FCS team as loaded at LB and DB as next years team, and that is great considering our strength was the DL last year. The staff also brought in 2 more DBs this offseason that could contribute. Blackmon has been clocked in the 4.3s. Two good freshmen DEs are coming back with a years experience, and Blair capable of moving into the NT position along with Corbin, Burns, and Shuemake all at 300lbs, Small coming in at just under 300, and Milhouse at 275, we've got plenty of options and competition despite losing 3 big contributors at the DT position.

Until I see them, you'll have a hard time convincing me they'll top the 2003 Paladin unit with Mike Killian, Ced Ritter, William Freeman, Cam Newton, etc.

That team gave up 14.1 ppg and only three teams (GSU, Clemson, and UTC) managed to put up more than 20 points in a contest (and UTC lost by 42, so they got there against the backups). Offense stunk, but that defense, and particularly the linebacking corps, was about as good as I have seen at the FCS level. Just as a comparable, last years ASU team gave up nearly ten points per game more than the 2003 Paladins, so they have to go a long way to match that group.

[GlassOnion]

Until I see them, you'll have a hard time convincing me they'll top the 2003 Paladin unit with Mike Killian, Ced Ritter, William Freeman, Cam Newton, etc.

That team gave up 14.1 ppg and only three teams (GSU, Clemson, and UTC) managed to put up more than 20 points in a contest (and UTC lost by 42, so they got there against the backups). Offense stunk, but that defense, and particularly the linebacking corps, was about as good as I have seen at the FCS level. Just as a comparable, last years ASU team gave up nearly ten points per game more than the 2003 Paladins, so they have to go a long way to match that group.

I did say, "that I have seen," not saying theyre the best ever, but I hope to be able to make that comparison at the end of the season. xthumbsupx Our offense was downright atrocious, the worst in the spread era, expect the ppg to drop when the ASU offense starts making first downs. The OL coach absolutely screwed our entire team last season. There were times last season where our defense just manhandled the other team's offense, but the offense couldnt get it done.

If you throw out the Vtech game our ppg falls into the top 20 in the nation, and after all, this was our very first year running the base 3-4 defense, and Vtech, the very first game. Alot of potential in Boone this year.

[asknoquarter21]

I don't know if we will be that dominant defensively in terms of numbers. If our offense gets back on track (as many expect it to) I think we will score too quickly to put up all time caliber numbers. The thing I am looking for out of our defense in the coming seasons is turnovers. What our CBs might lack in cover skills we make up for in ball skills. They typically locate the ball well and take advantage of opportunities. They will get beat sometimes, but they will also get turnovers and with a good offense that is the best thing you can hope for.

[GlassOnion]

I don't know if we will be that dominant defensively in terms of numbers. If our offense gets back on track (as many expect it to) I think we will score too quickly to put up all time caliber numbers. The thing I am looking for out of our defense in the coming seasons is turnovers. What our CBs might lack in cover skills we make up for in ball skills. They typically locate the ball well and take advantage of opportunities. They will get beat sometimes, but they will also get turnovers and with a good offense that is the best thing you can hope for.

Im thinking it may take Satterfield a while to rebuild the offensive juggernaut he left us with, but we will have a better than average offense, I think we're primed for great overall stats, its the individual stats I think that are going to suffer. With Wray, Grier, Kimbrough and Rizor all on the field at the same time, its almost unfair. Only one can get the tackle each play, and I think many teams will resort to the pass rather than try to run on these guys, theyre just too big and too fast.

[chattownmocs]

So basically App State will have the best defense ever, but it won't show because your offense will score so quickly your D will always be on the field? And they call me delusional.

[GlassOnion]

So basically App State will have the best defense ever, but it won't show because your offense will score so quickly your D will always be on the field? And they call me delusional.

Why is it that delusional? It happened in 2007, 7,631 total yards, 509 yards per game. We averaged 42.5 points per game in 4 playoff games. And despite the lopsided scores, the time of possession was nearly even, with the exception of the first round where JMU held the ball for over 40 minutes, and we still put up 28 and won.

[chattownmocs]

Why is it that delusional? It happened in 2007, 7,631 total yards, 509 yards per game. We averaged 42.5 points per game in 4 playoff games.

2012

[GlassOnion]

2012

What difference does the year make? If it happened once it can happen again. Do you think anyone was predicting 509 yards per game for us after the 06 season? Is it likely? No. But it isnt so far out of the realm to be characterized as delusional.

[chattownmocs]

What difference does the year make? If it happened once it can happen again. Do you think anyone was predicting 509 yards per game for us after the 06 season? Is it likely? No. But it isnt so far out of the realm to be characterized as delusional.

You don't have the players, that is the difference.

[PaladinFan]

App, for a long time, was able to play the "shootout" game that works for some teams. The App offense would hit the ground running, the other team would have to play catchup, and would all too often commit mistakes and give the Apps extra possessions.

I can agree that the offense really put the brakes on the App State machine last year. In their losses, App wasn't able to get anything going in the middle of the field, and had to resort to trying to get the ball on the edge every time. That works well enough most of the time, but when teams can neutralize the inside game with three players, then there's a whole lotta help out there. App has some great athletes, but even the best of them can't escape four or five opposite colored jerseys.

[GlassOnion]

You don't have the players, that is the difference.

Last year App had three players go in the NFL draft, the most ever, and more in camps. This year we've got 2 in the combine, one of those only played 6 games as a CB and we'll probably have 3 more in camps. App has produced NFL level talent consistantly, even without National Championships. I think App fans are more qualified to compare our past guys to the present then you are.

[StorminASU]

What difference does the year make? If it happened once it can happen again. Do you think anyone was predicting 509 yards per game for us after the 06 season? Is it likely? No. But it isnt so far out of the realm to be characterized as delusional.

Don't worry, just like the groundhog, Chattownmocs will emerge mid-november, see a losing season and predict the beginning of another year of dominance...next season of course, they were only practicing this year. The returning starters had to get warmed back up of course.

[StorminASU]

App, for a long time, was able to play the "shootout" game that works for some teams. The App offense would hit the ground running, the other team would have to play catchup, and would all too often commit mistakes and give the Apps extra possessions.

I can agree that the offense really put the brakes on the App State machine last year. In their losses, App wasn't able to get anything going in the middle of the field, and had to resort to trying to get the ball on the edge every time. That works well enough most of the time, but when teams can neutralize the inside game with three players, then there's a whole lotta help out there. App has some great athletes, but even the best of them can't escape four or five opposite colored jerseys.

You are exactly right, but I am VERY excited to see the difference an off-season will make. SS is back, along with the missing playbook, and we recruited some good size up front. I see a return to scaring teams again in 2012.

[GlassOnion]

App, for a long time, was able to play the "shootout" game that works for some teams. The App offense would hit the ground running, the other team would have to play catchup, and would all too often commit mistakes and give the Apps extra possessions.

I can agree that the offense really put the brakes on the App State machine last year. In their losses, App wasn't able to get anything going in the middle of the field, and had to resort to trying to get the ball on the edge every time. That works well enough most of the time, but when teams can neutralize the inside game with three players, then there's a whole lotta help out there. App has some great athletes, but even the best of them can't escape four or five opposite colored jerseys.

Thats a good assessment. I think 3 yards rushing against Maine says it all. Personally, I think the OL talent wasnt utilized properly, by the OL coach, and the problem was exacerbated by the staffs refusal to change the playcalling. Thankfully the new OL coach and Satterfields return, with full OC title should fix those problems for the most part.

[GlassOnion]

Don't worry, just like the groundhog, Chattownmocs will emerge mid-november, see a losing season and predict the beginning of another year of dominance...next season of course, they were only practicing this year. The returning starters had to get warmed back up of course.

Lol. Funny thing is I've got a groundhog problem here at the house too, one's been stealing the low hanging apples from my apple tree the past 2 years. Little jerk.

[chattownmocs]

Don't worry, just like the groundhog, Chattownmocs will emerge mid-november, see a losing season and predict the beginning of another year of dominance...next season of course, they were only practicing this year. The returning starters had to get warmed back up of course.

Well actually, Chattanooga has 18 offensive/defensive starters back this year and would have 20 back next year barring attrition. Which would mean 18 guys with 3 years of starting experience . Scary.

[PaladinFan]

Last year App had three players go in the NFL draft, the most ever, and more in camps. This year we've got 2 in the combine, one of those only played 6 games as a CB and we'll probably have 3 more in camps. App has produced NFL level talent consistantly, even without National Championships. I think App fans are more qualified to compare our past guys to the present then you are.

Don't tell that to recruitniks. Furman's class gets ranked poorly every season, yet of the SoCon teams, only App State has more players on NFL rosters. Either NFL scouts or recruit beat writers don't know their rear-end from a hole in the ground. Methinks it's the latter.

[mountaineer in Cane Land]

I don't know if its such a good thing for Chatt to return 18 starters The last 2 years their offensive line has been the worst in SC. I don't care if their QB has potential, I repeat potential, if their line doesn't get noticably better, he is not going to make it thru the season, and they will finish again behind App, GS, and Wofford.

[PaladinFan]

Thats a good assessment. I think 3 yards rushing against Maine says it all. Personally, I think the OL talent wasnt utilized properly, by the OL coach, and the problem was exacerbated by the staffs refusal to change the playcalling. Thankfully the new OL coach and Satterfields return, with full OC title should fix those problems for the most part.

App never really needed to get cute with playcalling. Read option and quick slants worked well for years.

[chattownmocs]

I don't know if its such a good thing for Chatt to return 18 starters The last 2 years their offensive line has been the worst in SC. I don't care if their QB has potential, I repeat potential, if their line doesn't get noticably better, he is not going to make it thru the season, and they will finish again behind App, GS, and Wofford.

First you said it was the worst the last 3 years, now you are saying last 2? Well it MAY (and I have emphasize mat because it wasn't even clearly inferior to App State's O-line for example) have been the worst last year, but that is as far back as it goes. Please stop.

[GlassOnion]

App never really needed to get cute with playcalling. Read option and quick slants worked well for years.

We needed it last year, the read option basically deleted our first downs. If I have to hear 2nd and 9 one more time...

And the recruitniks have always sucked. It takes a jackass to devote a lifetime to judging people with more talent then they have.

[mountaineer in Cane Land]

okay......... since the best you got is to nick pick every line of every post I will make it crystal clear, that even you Chatt boys can understand. Your line sucks!!!! It was the worst 3 years ago, it was the worst 2 years ago, and it was the worst last year. As for next year, I'm more worried about GS, Wofford, and Elon, than I am about Chatt. When you guys finally start beating the top teams consistantly, which I don't think its going to happen, than I will start to worry about you guys, until then, you guys just are another game.

[Saint3333]

Well actually, Chattanooga has 18 offensive/defensive starters back this year and would have 20 back next year barring attrition. Which would mean 18 guys with 3 years of starting experience . Scary.

Or like most UTC "grads" they finish their football careers with 4 Ls to ASU.

No UTC player since 1986 has had more than 1 win over ASU:
1985 L
1986 L
1987 L
1988 W
1989 L
1990 L
1991 L
1992 L
1993 L
1994 L
1995 L
1996 L
1997 L
1998 L
1999 L
2000 W
2001 L
2002 L
2003 L
2004 W
2005 L
2006 L
2007 L
2008 L
2009 L
2010 L
2011 L

Win some games and THEN brag about bringing them back.

[GlassOnion]

Or like most UTC "grads" they finish their football careers with 4 Ls to ASU.

No UTC player since 1986 has had more than 1 win over ASU:
1985 L
1986 L
1987 L
1988 W
1989 L
1990 L
1991 L
1992 L
1993 L
1994 L
1995 L
1996 L
1997 L
1998 L
1999 L
2000 W
2001 L
2002 L
2003 L
2004 W
2005 L
2006 L
2007 L
2008 L
2009 L
2010 L
2011 L

Win some games and THEN brag about bringing them back.

Ouch, I think this groundhog just got smacked with his own shadow... time to return underground???

[chattownmocs]

Or like most UTC "grads" they finish their football careers with 4 Ls to ASU.

No UTC player since 1986 has had more than 1 win over ASU:
1985 L
1986 L
1987 L
1988 W
1989 L
1990 L
1991 L
1992 L
1993 L
1994 L
1995 L
1996 L
1997 L
1998 L
1999 L
2000 W
2001 L
2002 L
2003 L
2004 W
2005 L
2006 L
2007 L
2008 L
2009 L
2010 L
2011 L

Win some games and THEN brag about bringing them back.

Did you relly just go back to 1985. Why, such a random. Oh because Chattanooga won 7 of the first 8 meetings? And because App State was lucky that they didn't play Chattanooga before that? Hmm. Cool story bro, noone cares about the brief history of your declining football program.

[chattownmocs]

okay......... since the best you got is to nick pick every line of every post I will make it crystal clear, that even you Chatt boys can understand. Your line sucks!!!! It was the worst 3 years ago, it was the worst 2 years ago, and it was the worst last year. As for next year, I'm more worried about GS, Wofford, and Elon, than I am about Chatt. When you guys finally start beating the top teams consistantly, which I don't think its going to happen, than I will start to worry about you guys, until then, you guys just are another game.

You do realize that your team scored zero offensive points against Chattanooga. Chattanooga's offensive line is the last thing that you need to worry about. I don't care what you are worried. I don;t really care about your opinion. If you think Chattanooga's offensive line as close to the worst before last year, than you need to learn the game.

[mountaineer in Cane Land]

apparantely, I'm not the only one who needs to learn the game, since 1985 Chatt is 3 for 27 against App, it would really help your program if you actually beat App, but, don't listen to me, I know nothing about the game....um, come to think of it, since 1985 Chatt's winning percentage might be worst against App than Westerns... I will have to look that up.

[GlassOnion]

You do realize that your team scored zero offensive points against Chattanooga. Chattanooga's offensive line is the last thing that you need to worry about. I don't care what you are worried. I don;t really care about your opinion. If you think Chattanooga's offensive line as close to the worst before last year, than you need to learn the game.

So, whats worse, winning by two defensive TDs, or losing against a team that didnt score offensively?

[Apphole]

App State was lucky

Broken record....

[chattownmocs]

apparantely, I'm not the only one who needs to learn the game, since 1985 Chatt is 3 for 27 against App, it would really help your program if you actually beat App, but, don't listen to me, I know nothing about the game....um, come to think of it, since 1985 Chatt's winning percentage might be worst against App than Westerns... I will have to look that up.

Once again, what in the world does 1985 have to do with anything? What does App State record against Chattanooga over a 27 year period have to do with anything. What does App State have to do with Chattanooga's offensive line being the worst in the SOCON for the last 3 years. Stop.

[chattownmocs]

So, whats worse, winning by two defensive TDs, or losing against a team that didnt score offensively?

You didn't score 2 defensive tds either. The point was that Chattanooga's offensive line, as bad as it was, was good enough to beat Appalachian State last year. That was not the difference in the game. I would worry about how Appalachian State's recievers are going to get open and how their mediocre QB is going to get them the ball against a defensive unit that returns 9 starters and dominated them last year.

[mountaineer in Cane Land]

I'll give you credit Chatt man, your team has not made the playoffs in atleast 20 years, you have not won a conference championship in atleast 30 years, the last 4 years all we have heard is Chatt is back (when did they arrive in the first place) yet, they have had 4 disappointing years etc. your argument is based on moral victories, App, on the other hand is based on actual victories. You can't win this argument, when your team actually starts winning on the field, consistantly, than, you can talk. I will be the first to admit UTC has made progress in the last 4 years, but, again, until Chatt starts beating the top teams in the conference, you have no creditability telling us how good Chatt is going to be next year, and talking trash about App.

[Saint3333]

Did you relly just go back to 1985. Why, such a random. Oh because Chattanooga won 7 of the first 8 meetings? And because App State was lucky that they didn't play Chattanooga before that? Hmm. Cool story bro, noone cares about the brief history of your declining football program.

You caught me we have only dominated the series for the past 27 years, you guys were really good when I was 6, congrats. You have a strange definition of brief, how old are you?

[Apphole]

As you can easily see from his infinite wisdom, Chattown is over 200 years old.

[asumike83]

I would worry about how Appalachian State's recievers are going to get open and how their mediocre QB is going to get them the ball against a defensive unit that returns 9 starters and dominated them last year.

DeAndre Presley's inability to get the ball to our receivers against y'all is really not an indicator of what may happen next time we see each other. It will be different kids under center for both teams. Jamal Jackson and Terrell Robinson have started games against only 2 mutual SoCon opponents that I know of, Furman and Elon.

Elon:
Jackson - 26/42, 284 yards, 4 TD, 1 INT
Robinson - 11/13, 140 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT

Furman:
Jackson - 29/44, 312 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT
Robinson - 1/7, 3 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT

I'm not worried about how our QB is going to get our receivers the ball. Jackson started half the year in 2011 and put up more passing yards than Coleman and Robinson combined. ASU's passing game is going to be fine, my concern is improving our ability to run the ball.

[ASUMountaineer]

So, whats worse, winning by two defensive TDs, or losing against a team that didnt score offensively?

I'm going to have to go with the latter, because it's funnier. xlolx

[ASUMountaineer]

You do realize that your team scored zero offensive points against Chattanooga. Chattanooga's offensive line is the last thing that you need to worry about. I don't care what you are worried. I don;t really care about your opinion. If you think Chattanooga's offensive line as close to the worst before last year, than you need to learn the game.

You do realize this point is not helpful to your argument? Chatty couldn't beat a team that offensively was scoreless. That's just sad. Stop.

However, like I said, I still enjoy your posts...it sure is comedic gold.

[chattownmocs]

You caught me we have only dominated the series for the past 27 years, you guys were really good when I was 6, congrats. You have a strange definition of brief, how old are you?

Old enough to know that 1985 is brief in the history of college football. I just find it interesting that this could be your best argument. It is very weak and irrelevant.

[chattownmocs]

You do realize this point is not helpful to your argument? Chatty couldn't beat a team that offensively was scoreless. That's just sad. Stop.

However, like I said, I still enjoy your posts...it sure is comedic gold.

What was my argument? You don't even know do you? You are just randomly responding to posts with moronic replies. I responded to the imbecile that said he wasn't worried about Chattanooga because they had the worst offensive line last year. Now as bad as it was, it wasn't the difference. And it won't be the difference next year either. So like I said, I would be worried about Chattanooga's defense. Or the lack of offense from your own team. As great as you want to pretend your QB was last year, the reality is that he was very mediocre. Chattanooga returns one of the stingiest pass defenses in the nation.

[PaladinFan]

Are we really still arguing about this?

Jackson was not a great quarterback. Were he a great quaterback, App's offense would not have been shut down by UTC, Furman, Wofford, and Maine.

Also, UTC has a good, but not great, defense. Were they a great defense, the team would not have been 5-6. When your offense can only score 27, giving up 28 might as well be like giving up 60.

Can we move back to 2012 now?

[asumike83]

Jackson was not a great quarterback. Were he a great quaterback, App's offense would not have been shut down by UTC, Furman, Wofford, and Maine.

Jackson didn't play against UTC or Wofford but you are right, he was not a great QB. I'm not sure any ASU fans would ever say he was great but there is a lot of ground between mediocre and great. Considering he was thrown in mid-season behind a revolving door of offensive linemen and no benefit of a running game, I think he did an admirable job. If we can get a true between the tackles runner to step up, some continuity in the offensive line and a cohesive game plan, we will find out how good he can be.

[ASUMountaineer]

What was my argument? You don't even know do you? You are just randomly responding to posts with moronic replies. I responded to the imbecile that said he wasn't worried about Chattanooga because they had the worst offensive line last year. Now as bad as it was, it wasn't the difference. And it won't be the difference next year either. So like I said, I would be worried about Chattanooga's defense. Or the lack of offense from your own team. As great as you want to pretend your QB was last year, the reality is that he was very mediocre. Chattanooga returns one of the stingiest pass defenses in the nation.

Maybe I missed something...what does ASU's offense going scoreless have to do with Chatty's OL? Seems to be separate from the argument about Chatty's OL.

When did I "pretend" how great ASU's QB was last year? You don't even know, do you?

Your argument was, and is, that Chatty is better than ASU. While I find it humorous, it is not conducive to providing a good counterpoint. However, let me address your rambling:


Now as bad as it [OL] was, it wasn't the difference. Are you responding to the App game specifically? I will assume so, and state that you are correct that it was not the sole reason Chatty lost to ASU. It did, however, contribute to turnovers and Chatty's inability to finish drives. That should be clear, even to a Vols fan, or a football novice. Unless, of course, you believe that the turnovers and inability to finish drives was all due to ASU's defense...


And it won't be the difference next year either. I'd say that's a decent prediction, though not provable until the clock hits 0:00.


So like I said, I would be worried about Chattanooga's defense. Or the lack of offense from your own team. That sounds just about how most fans should think. Isn't that usually how the game works? I would suggest, based on last season, your team should be worried about the same things.


As great as you want to pretend your QB was last year, the reality is that he was very mediocre. I would say that Jamal Jackson was slightly above average last year, if you want to say mediocre, fine. However, Chatty has not played against JJ, so it is tough to say how he will perform against Chatty's D. Clearly, you believe you know, but you also "knew" that Chatty would destroy ASU in 2011.


Chattanooga returns one of the stingiest pass defenses in the nation. Cool deal. It was still a defense that lost 6 games last season. For the sake of Mocs fans, I hope this pans out.

You seem to be very sensitive, and I hope I haven't hurt your feelings. You also seem to have difficulty accepting compliments. But, I'll try again. Chattownmocs, keep the posts coming, you are hilarious. I enjoy your posts, almost as much as Opie's, and definitely more than Apphole's. xlolx

[GlassOnion]

. I would worry about how Appalachian State's recievers are going to get open and how their mediocre QB is going to get them the ball against a defensive unit that returns 9 starters and dominated them last year.

I could say the same to you, you do realize that Chattanooga was ranked 98th in total offense last year, right? Theres only 120 teams. Apps piss poor offense ranked 38th.

[chattownmocs]

Are we really still arguing about this?

Jackson was not a great quarterback. Were he a great quaterback, App's offense would not have been shut down by UTC, Furman, Wofford, and Maine.

Also, UTC has a good, but not great, defense. Were they a great defense, the team would not have been 5-6. When your offense can only score 27, giving up 28 might as well be like giving up 60.

Can we move back to 2012 now?

Absurd comment. A team that was in every game til the very end led the conference in Scoring and Total D. Clearly they were a great defense. Try again.

[asumike83]

Absurd comment. A team that was in every game til the very end led the conference in Scoring and Total D. Clearly they were a great defense. Try again.

They were a good defense but regardless of what their stats were, 'great' defenses do not cough up 2 TD leads in the 4th quarter at home twice. I know the offense did not help them much but part of being great is clamping down late in the game when it matters.

[chattownmocs]

It's amazing how bandwagon this board can be at times. Now Chattanooga's defense wasn't good either. lol. Not a single offense got the better of them in this conference all year, but they weren't any good. 28 points is not an offensive explosion in college football, it is about a draw.

[chattownmocs]

They were a good defense but regardless of what their stats were, 'great' defenses do not cough up 2 TD leads in the 4th quarter at home twice. I know the offense did not help them much but part of being great is clamping down late in the game when it matters.

They were the best. Period. No other defense in the conference was as consistent, or as good in total or scoring D. Great or not, it was the best in the SOCON.

[asumike83]

Also, UTC has a good, but not great, defense.


They were a good defense but regardless of what their stats were, 'great' defenses do not cough up 2 TD leads in the 4th quarter at home twice. I know the offense did not help them much but part of being great is clamping down late in the game when it matters.

Where did you get the idea that anyone thinks the UTC defense was not any good? I think the point you are missing is the huge difference between good and great. Great defenses do not melt down late at home. The UTC defense did that against The Citadel and Wofford. Win those games, you're 7-4 and in the playoffs.

[chattownmocs]

Where did you get the idea that anyone thinks the UTC defense was not any good? I think the point you are missing is the huge difference between good and great. Great defenses do not melt down late at home. The UTC defense did that against The Citadel and Wofford. Win those games, you're 7-4 and in the playoffs.

Great defenses don't melt down for 60 minutes. Whether Chattanooga's defense was great last year is debatable. What isn't is that they were the best in this conference.

[mountaineer in Cane Land]

okay Chatt man, we are going around in circles, what I want to know is how do you think Chatt will do next year in the conference, be honest, and please give details on your predictions.

[blueballs]

You can't be great if you have a losing record. Period. Not debatable.

[Saint3333]

Old enough to know that 1985 is brief in the history of college football. I just find it interesting that this could be your best argument. It is very weak and irrelevant.

So the most recent 27 years of college football is irrelevant thanks for sharing, say things out loud before typing as a filter.

If anyone knows anything about weak points in a discussion you're our guy.

[Silenoz]

Great defenses don't melt down for 60 minutes. Whether Chattanooga's defense was the best last year is debatable. What isn't is that they were the best in this conference.

No

[chattownmocs]

So the most recent 27 years of college football is irrelevant thanks for sharing, say things out loud before typing as a filter.

If anyone knows anything about weak points in a discussion you're our guy.

No 27 year period is relevant. Try again.

[Saint3333]

No 27 year period is relevant. Try again.

FAIL

[Mountaineer]

FAIL

xlolx

xbowx

Yeah, don't let that whole quarter century/nearly a generation thing fool you, it's merely a blip. :p

[eagle07]

Isn't Huesmans son a freshman qb?, if so how long is robinsons leash before sonny boy gets a go at it? I have always been weary of these son on the team type things, if your son is good enough to be on a college football team, then he doesnt need to be on your team. Anyways just wondering if one of you nooga folks could give us the 411 on this.

[blueballs]

Great defenses don't melt down for 60 minutes. Whether Chattanooga's defense was great last year is debatable. What isn't is that they were the best in this conference.

Maybe, maybe not.

How many yards and points did GSU's backups surrender in the third and fourth quarter of blow outs, and how many yards did they surrender playing bend but don't break while the GSU offense was running rough shod rolling up big leads in the other three quarters? I would ask the same question about Wofford too.

You play to the scoreboard and to the game situation, not the stat sheet.

I saw every defense in the SoCon last year and I thought App was the best with GSU being second best because they were able to make the plays that win ballgames. Stats are for losers and teams with losing records. I'll take the group that makes the big plays that win games every time.

[chattownmocs]

Maybe, maybe not.

How many yards and points did GSU's backups surrender in the third and fourth quarter of blow outs, and how many yards did they surrender playing bend but don't break while the GSU offense was running rough shod rolling up big leads in the other three quarters? I would ask the same question about Wofford too.

You play to the scoreboard and to the game situation, not the stat sheet.

I saw every defense in the SoCon last year and I thought App was the best with GSU being second best because they were able to make the plays that win ballgames. Stats are for losers and teams with losing records. I'll take the group that makes the big plays that win games every time.

Georgia Southern blew out 1 more team than Chattanooga did in conference play. Most of the point you gave up even in those games was early. In your close games you gave up late points. But how many big plays did Georgia Southern's defense make late against Chattanooga? The answer is none. They got shredded. They were lucky Robinson missed a wide open Joel Bradford on the 2 point conversion or they would have been watching from the sideline as their offense tried to bail them out. Chattanooga gave up the fewest points and total yards per game. They have the best defense in the conference. Simple as that. If they wouldn't have given up a few ate comebacks they would have been the best in the country probably. That's a different debate.

[chattownmocs]

xlolx

xbowx

Yeah, don't let that whole quarter century/nearly a generation thing fool you, it's merely a blip. :p

What does that have to do with it being relevant. 1985 is not relevant to today, and it sure as hell isn't relevant to this thread or the conversations taking place in it.

[Mountaineer]

What does that have to do with it being relevant.

Relevance is something the Mocs have never entertained on the field so I understand your apprehension. ;)

Hey, if my team has sucked a*s for decades I'd have my head in the sand too. The 2011 dream of shoulda coulda woulda will continue to live on with (unfortunately) you.

[chattownmocs]

Relevance is something the Mocs have never entertained on the field so I understand your apprehension. ;)

Hey, if my team has sucked a*s for decades I'd have my head in the sand too. The 2011 dream of shoulda coulda woulda will continue to live on with (unfortunately) you.

You need to look up the word relevance and then go look at the history of college football. Clearly you are delusional.

[Mountaineer]

You need to look up the word relevance and then go look at the history of college football. Clearly you are delusional.

What am I missing here? xconfusedx

http://i.imgur.com/UXyKd.jpg

[blueballs]

Georgia Southern blew out 1 more team than Chattanooga did in conference play. Most of the point you gave up even in those games was early. In your close games you gave up late points. But how many big plays did Georgia Southern's defense make late against Chattanooga?

The only one that mattered, they got the QB hurry and subsequent incompletion on the two point conversion and that was the game winner. Josh Rowe made the play. Period. End of story. They won.

GSU won 8 games by at least 2 TD's, which is 3 more than Chatty won TOTAL, and GSU won 6 games by at least 3 TD's, which is one more than Chatty won TOTAL... GSU's defense played to the scoreboard and made the plays when it mattered in big games against Chatty, Furman, Wofford, Citadel, Samford, and Maine. They won the conference outright, and made the final four- AGAIN. That's all that matters.

As for best in the country, that's laughable. NDSU's defense was heads and shoulders better than everybody else in the division and that's not even up for debate.

[asumike83]

As for best in the country, that's laughable. NDSU's defense was heads and shoulders better than everybody else in the division and that's not even up for debate.

Indeed.

[chattownmocs]

The only one that mattered, they got the QB hurry and subsequent incompletion on the two point conversion and that was the game winner. Josh Rowe made the play. Period. End of story. They won.

GSU won 8 games by at least 2 TD's, which is 3 more than Chatty won TOTAL, and GSU won 6 games by at least 3 TD's, which is one more than Chatty won TOTAL... GSU's defense played to the scoreboard and made the plays when it mattered in big games against Chatty, Furman, Wofford, Citadel, Samford, and Maine. They won the conference outright, and made the final four- AGAIN. That's all that matters.

As for best in the country, that's laughable. NDSU's defense was heads and shoulders better than everybody else in the division and that's not even up for debate.

What makes a great defense- the other team's freshman QB missing a wide open reciever with the game on the line. That's kind of like claiming your defense is great because you FG block defense picks up a fumble and runs it in. Some of Chattanooga's defensive break downs at the end of games kept them from being one of the best if not THE best in the entire country. What it did not keep them from being was the best in the Southern Conference.

[Saint3333]

Q - What does the best defense in the conference get you?

A - The same view.

[Silenoz]

5-6


FIVE AND SIX! What is there to talk about?

[mountaineer in Cane Land]

Chatt man, I'm still waiting for you to tell me how Chatt does next year.

[chattownmocs]

Chatt man, I'm still waiting for you to tell me how Chatt does next year.

8-3(6-2) or 9-2(7-1)

[Silenoz]

Sat, Sep 01 @ South Florida L
Sat, Sep 08 @ Jacksonville State L
Thu, Sep 13 Glenville State W
Sat, Sep 22 Appalachian State L
Sat, Sep 29 @ The Citadel ?
Sat, Oct 13 @ Furman L
Sat, Oct 20 Samford ?
Sat, Oct 27 Georgia Southern L
Sat, Nov 03 @ Western Carolina W
Sat, Nov 10 @ Wofford L
Sat, Nov 17 Elon ?

[Mountaineer#96]

Sat, Sep 01 @ South Florida L
Sat, Sep 08 @ Jacksonville State L
Thu, Sep 13 Glenville State W
Sat, Sep 22 Appalachian State L
Sat, Sep 29 @ The Citadel ?
Sat, Oct 13 @ Furman L
Sat, Oct 20 Samford ?
Sat, Oct 27 Georgia Southern L
Sat, Nov 03 @ Western Carolina W
Sat, Nov 10 @ Wofford L
Sat, Nov 17 Elon ?

I have heard good things from the Glenville folks.....they have a Mecca too. You might want to keep that one in the ? column.