JMU @ EKU in game

[ccd494]

How many people are in those far stands? 9? Jeesh.

[DJKyR0]

Hope EKU can actually afford that bid...

[Grizzaholic]

How many people are in those far stands? 9? Jeesh.

really? That is too bad. Just sucks for the players and the fans that do show.

[GaSouthern]

This game should have been at jmu

[ccd494]

Ahh, they just showed the near stands, those look like they have a pretty good crowd. What does this stadium seat?

[Bogus Megapardus]

There's nobody at this game. What a shame.

[ccd494]

Big punt return by EKU, deeeeeeep in JMU territory.

[gatadotcom]

The small crowd in attendance at this game is one of the things that gives FCS a bad rap. The Selection Committee should be embarrassed for allowing this game to be televised over some of the other matchups this weekend, i.e. @ODU or @Montana.

This was a Mickey Mouse decision by a committee that apparently had an EKU "insider" using influence to get his way. This game needed to be televised from Harrisonburg.

Very sad day for FCS football.

.

[ccd494]

JMU with the bail out interception!

[DJKyR0]

Got this gem from a JMU fan on Bisonville the other day:


Looking forward to turning the Fargodome purple and gold. A place with no weather issues makes JMU (the fastest team in FCS) almost unstoppable. Whatcha gonna do when the purple and gold run all over you?

If you see a lot of speed jokes from Bison fans, that's why.

Interesting game so far, to bad the Colonels couldn't take advantage of the great punt return.

[GSU Eagle]

JMU throwing the ball more than I thought they would.

[caribbeanhen]

The small crowd in attendance at this game is one of the things that gives FCS a bad rap. The Selection Committee should be embarrassed for allowing this game to be televised over some of the other matchups this weekend, i.e. @ODU or @Montana.

This was a Mickey Mouse decision by a committee that apparently had an EKU "insider" using influence to get his way. This game needed to be televised from Harrisonburg.

Very sad day for FCS football.

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why is this game not in Va? missed that

[GSU Eagle]

SoCon officials. Count on lots of flags.

[caribbeanhen]

at least the lower bowl has people, upper deck is sparsely populated

[SeattleGriz]

why is this game not in Va? missed that

JMU AD tried to low ball the bid and lost to EKU.

[ccd494]

1 yard TD run by Jordan Anderson, 7-0 JMU

[caribbeanhen]

JMU AD tried to low ball the bid and lost to EKU.

I am sure the EKU AD was shocked to hear they got the game...no wait a minute, he was on the selection comitte.... this smells like a rat

[Hammerhead]

I think there are more JMU fans than EKU fans there.

Kidd stadium has 22,000 seats and it can't be more than 1/2 full. Edit - there must have been a lot of late arrivals. The crowd looks way bigger than it did a the kickoff.

[LakesBison]

neither team impressing me, EKU is just handing JMU the game right now. Oh well, this turnout on tv is about as embarassing as EWU's turnout.

[caribbeanhen]

JMU AD tried to low ball the bid and lost to EKU.

kind of like making a real lowball offer on a house only to learn the seller accepted your bid.....

[GSU Eagle]

Outside of the big punt return EKU has not moved the ball very much at all.

[jmufan999]

Outside of the big punt return EKU has not moved the ball very much at all.

And don't forget we're playing without both starting DT's. And both starting OT's, for what it's worth.

[caribbeanhen]

Outside of the big punt return EKU has not moved the ball very much at all.

EKU anemic of offense

[caribbeanhen]

JMU fans - is Snow on the DL in this game?

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

Neither team impressing - maybe on offense, sounds like defenses are doing fairly well.

[LakesBison]

NDSU = LICKING THEIR CHOPS.

[JMad03]

JMU fans - is Snow on the DL in this game?

Snow's been out for a majority of the season.

[GSU Eagle]

This game looks to be a low scoring defensive struggle.

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

Wind obviously a major factor. Should be a low scoring game if both teams are tackling well.

[caribbeanhen]

thanks, was not aware of that.... his brother works with me

[JMUNJ08]

Still wishing this was in the burg for a real nice show for those fcs haters...

[GSU Eagle]

EKU 1 first down so far in 4 possessions == not good.

[GSU Eagle]

EKU moving the ball now, knocking on the door.

[GSU Eagle]

TD EKU. Honestly, these 2 teams seem about evenly matched to me.

[DJKyR0]

Wind is going to be a factor going on. Neither team passing well when they face into the wind, punters having some trouble getting it past the 50.

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

Sounds like whoever has the wind at their back is in the driver's seat.

[jmufan999]

Snow's been out for a majority of the season.

I think you're getting Snow mixed up with O'neill. Snow played at least the last 2 weeks, that's as far back as I checked.

[GSU Eagle]

EKU's front is contrtolling the line of scrimmage right now.

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

I am really confused why we are passing on 1st down, esp. with wind in our face. Strange...

[eaglewraith]

NM....too many damn message boards open at the same time.

[kdinva]

How many people are in those far stands? 9? Jeesh.

to me, looks like 4900-5300......I thought JMU would have had 2500+ themselves travel, walk up tickets look to be plentiful.

[westdakotabison]

NM....too many damn message boards open at the same time.

I resemble that

[ccd494]

Honestly, with that wind I wouldn't have hated a JMU punt from the EKU 30 there, great chance to pin them inside the 5.

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

ugh hard game to listen to, must be worse watching

[GSU Eagle]

Whichever team has the wind seems to have a big advantage.

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

Honestly, with that wind I wouldn't have hated a JMU punt from the EKU 30 there, great chance to pin them inside the 5.

agreed; hindsight is a ***** lol

[GSU Eagle]

SoCon officials love to throw flags.

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

wow can't say b1tch? interesting

[GSU Eagle]

Camera need to stop showing stands. It looks bad to see upper deck almost completely empty and some spots on lower bowl empty as well.

[LakesBison]

well, GOOD LUCK to whoever comes to fargodome and gets killed 35-10, im done with this game, THIS ATTENDENCE (& EWU's last year) is why FCS is a joke to the rest of the nation, just embarassing.

[caribbeanhen]

well, GOOD LUCK to whoever comes to fargodome and gets killed 35-10, im done with this game, THIS ATTENDENCE (& EWU's last year) is why FCS is a joke to the rest of the nation, just embarassing.

don't worry because noone is watching....jokes on you next week

[Cleets]

This has been an interesting game for sure...
that was a long field goal at the half there

10-7 Eastern K over JMU

[westdakotabison]

well, GOOD LUCK to whoever comes to fargodome and gets killed 35-10, im done with this game, THIS ATTENDENCE (& EWU's last year) is why FCS is a joke to the rest of the nation, just embarassing.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

EKU with 48-yd line drive FG to take 10-7 lead at the half over JMU

[GSU Eagle]

All points scored by team which has the wind. It will be a big factor in the 2nd half.

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

to me, looks like 4900-5300......I thought JMU would have had 2500+ themselves travel, walk up tickets look to be plentiful.

Most living at least 6-10 hour drive + thanksgiving + anger for not hosting + ESPNU + unexpected team in field not respected = low fan base traveling.

[Cleets]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out

I think that's just the Pabst Blue Ribbon talking...
He's an FCS fan and he'll be back.... he just needs a hug or something

[GSU Eagle]

EKU has impressed me with their defensive play up front. JMU is struggling to run the ball.

[Cleets]

Most living at least 6-10 hour drive + thanksgiving + anger for not hosting + ESPNU + unexpected team in field not respected = low fan base traveling.

yeah there are a lot of factors for sure - all that you mentioned are real

[JmuSkinsfan]

What a putrid first half. JMU can't establish the run at all ... no one has stopped us yet this year ... first half remined me of the 2nd half of ODU/JMU ... JMU's offensive line is playing as pathetic as they played down 3 starters in the 2nd half at ODU ... gah

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

Story of the game to me so far from a JMU perspective:
1) too many pass attempts - stick to the run!!!! Strange for a JMU team with MM usually only passing 8-12 times per game + wind factor.
2) Both teams stopping the run. I had confidence JMU would, but EKU's defense on the perimeter has been impressive.
3) Clutch INT for JMU; clutch 48yd FG for EKU.

2nd half should be interesting, probably coming down to the final plays of the game.

GO DUKES!!!

[Cleets]

The adjustments at the half / who comes out with a different game plan might be interesting..?

[BearIt]

well, GOOD LUCK to whoever comes to fargodome and gets killed 35-10, im done with this game, THIS ATTENDENCE (& EWU's last year) is why FCS is a joke to the rest of the nation, just embarassing.

Because we all know that the team with the best attendence wins. Everyone should just laydown and let Montana and App State play in the NC every year. NDSU would lose by at least 35-10 to them based on attendence.xrolleyesx

[semobison]

well, GOOD LUCK to whoever comes to fargodome and gets killed 35-10, im done with this game, THIS ATTENDENCE (& EWU's last year) is why FCS is a joke to the rest of the nation, just embarassing.

Is it genetic or do you have to work hard to be such an a$$hat!

[Go_Herd]

The adjustments at the half / who comes out with a different game plan might be interesting..?

Shouldn't you be worrying about getting sued or some other legal action? :)

I've been really impressed by EKU speed to the outside and ability of their corners to come up and make tackles on the option tosses.

[Cleets]

Shouldn't you being worrying about getting sued? :)

I've been really surprised by EKU speed to the outside and ability of their corners to come up and make tackles on the option tosses.

This time of year the nuts come out...
The EKU defense has impressed me - they are prepared for JMU
I think we all knew JMU's Defense would be stout

[BearIt]

Story of the game to me so far from a JMU perspective:
1) too many pass attempts - stick to the run!!!! Strange for a JMU team with MM usually only passing 8-12 times per game + wind factor.

GO DUKES!!!

Outsider's perspective. JMU needs to get a pass game going. Do more short routes. Force some line backers to back off the line. EKU is stuffing the run.

[DJKyR0]

JMU's QB certainly seems capable and you have to think he's due to get a good gainer one of these times. The winner of the game is going to be whoever can pass better, and I think the nod goes to EKU as they'll play the fourth quarter with the wind at their back. Both teams playing some pretty good defense against the run, gotta love that brand of smashmouth football at the line of scrimmage. I think either team would offer up a very entertaining game versus NDSU next week.

[Cleets]

It seems like a play action pass would totally work against EKU..?

[jmufan999]

It seems like a play action pass would totally work against EKU..?

We should also run at least one reverse in the 2nd half. EKU is pursuing the ball hard, misdirection would work like a charm.

[JMad03]

and I think the nod goes to EKU as they'll play the fourth quarter with the wind at their back.

Actually JMU has the wind at their back in the 4th.

[Cleets]

We should also run at least one reverse in the 2nd half. EKU is pursuing the ball hard, misdirection would work like a charm.

Yeah it's tough for me to tell if their linebackers are completely selling out for the initial direction of the play or they're just really really good

[BearIt]

We should also run at least one reverse in the 2nd half. EKU is pursuing the ball hard, misdirection would work like a charm.

OU just burned Iowa State with that a little bit ago. I thought the same thing when I saw it.

[BearIt]

Yeah it's tough for me to tell if their linebackers are completely selling out for the initial direction of the play or they're just really really good

Agree. I'm having a tough time judging if either team has a speed advantage. It seems like EKU's secondary may be a little weak, but perhaps that was just being out of position vs being slow.

[Go_Herd]

JMU....what's up with your linemen? That last hand-off two linemen were pushed 2-3 yards into the backfield. wow great second effort by Scott

[ccd494]

Wait what? That went through the uprights!

[Go_Herd]

NO Way that was a missed field goal. Did the back-judge forget to look up?

[Mattymc727]

That was good, terrible call

[GSU Eagle]

SoCon officials just blew that one.

[JMU2004]

robbed....total ********* there.

[Cleets]

That looked like a pretty good kick - how far inside the posts does it need to be..? Hmmm...

[Cleets]

Are these SoCon officials - Ah-Ha..!!!!

[CommishBigSmooth]

I think that FG was good. Not by much- JMU got screwed there. After seeing the camera angle from behind the kicker, I was convinced.

[Cleets]

I have an opinion about SoCon officials - and I won't go off here - but I've expressed it many times

[JMU2004]

10 pt swing there.....fn robbed.

[ccd494]

Well, looks like that blown call is going to lead to a 10 point swing. Let's set the Mickey rant watch at Defcon 2.

[Cleets]

Wow... (just wow)

[Cleets]

If I cared about this game I would be a little pissed off right now... (the joys of being neutral) but wow..

[BearIt]

EKU wanting to prove that they belong.

[bisonguy]

That looked like a pretty good kick - how far inside the posts does it need to be..? Hmmm...

The ball has to be completely inside the upright. It wasn't.

[Reign of Terrier]

Eastern could win this one....

[Wildcat80]

Guess JMU was a worthy bubble team. Good thing EKU got IN!!

[caribbeanhen]

That looked like a pretty good kick - how far inside the posts does it need to be..? Hmmm...

agree

[Hammerhead]

Don't JMU players know how to buckle their chinstraps? I 've seen at least 5 helmets come off.

[fencer24]

Wait a minute, that kick was over the top of the uprights. How do we know it was good?

[MplsBison]

Most living at least 6-10 hour drive + thanksgiving + anger for not hosting + ESPNU + unexpected team in field not respected = low fan base traveling.

On the other hand, if JMU had just submitted a real, actual bid - they would've got the home game and FCS football could've had a chance to look good on national TV...or internet.

Hope the AD gets fired if they lose the game - home field is too important.

[Cleets]

EKU gets the wind and the ball in the 4th quarter... JMU better toughen up if they want to play next week

[BearIt]

Wind will be a big advantage. EKU's QB seems to be a better passer than JMU.

[hebmskebm]

Things I've learned so far:

1. EKU's D is MUCH better than I expected.
2. SoCon Refs....
3. No sporting event looks good when the entire upper level of the stadium is empty (maybe EKU should have broken out a tarp a la the Florida Marlins and Oakland A's)

[Cleets]

Things I've learned so far:

1. EKU's D is MUCH better than I expected.
2. SoCon Refs....
3. No sporting event looks good when the entire upper level of the stadium is empty (maybe EKU should have broken out a tarp a la the Florida Marlins and Oakland A's)


+1

[Cleets]

JMU's pass blocking is suspect (at best)

[Drblankstare]

All tied up now. Pretty even match it seems so far. But EK has the wind, and I have a feeling this is coming down to a FG.

[Cleets]

All tied up now. Pretty even match it seems so far. But EK has the wind, and I have a feeling this is coming down to a FG.

Indeed..
The wind sure helps the punts that last one was a BOMB

[Drblankstare]

Indeed..
The wind sure helps the punts that last one was a BOMB

No joke, that was a great punt.

[Drblankstare]

Big stop by EK. jMU to punt into the wind. 5 left in the 4th

[UMass922]

Wow, wide open but he missed him.

[UMass922]

JMU dodges another bullet, nearly turning it over on the punt return.

[DJKyR0]

Game is going down to the wire, EKU will get the ball with just over a minute and a half to go. Tied up at 17.

[straightshooter]

Both teams look slow to me. The JMU RB looks quick, but that's about it. Either team will need to play faster if they want to advance much further.

[Drblankstare]

JMU gets it on 4 th and 2. It's been an entertaining game

[UNH_Alum_In_CT]

Nope, JMU goes for it and converts on 4th down.

[Drblankstare]

Both teams look slow to me. The JMU RB looks quick, but that's about it. Either team will need to play faster if they want to advance much further.
I thought the same thing right away, but after watching for awhile, it looks like both teams have some speed weapons. JMU more though.

[UMass922]

Well, here we go . . .

[Drblankstare]

1 sec fg for the win for JMU

[Cleets]

This has been fun - very entertaining

[UNH_Alum_In_CT]

35 yards into the wind.

[inpsite1919]

Will Icing the Kicker work?.... We will see.

[inpsite1919]

20-17 JMU Final

[Mattymc727]

Awesome game

[UNH_Alum_In_CT]

Dukes are going to Fargo.

[Drblankstare]

Welcome to Fargo Dukes. Great win

[UMass922]

Congrats JMU!

[WileECoyote06]

Great game!

[SpeedkingATL]

Congrats Dukes! Nice effort EKU.

[inpsite1919]

Good Second Half by JMU

[hebmskebm]

Nice job JMU gettin it done when it counted. But major props to EKU as well. Played stout D all game but wore down at the end because their O couldn't stay on the field.

[Squealofthepig]

Kudos also to EKU - you may have been controversial, but you definitely showed you were deserving of a bid!

[Cleets]

I'm not sure JMU has exactly instilled any fear in NDSU...

[Sam_Kats]

Really good game - gotta love FCS playoffs! Congrats Dukes.

[straightshooter]

JMU will have a better chance to beat NDSU than would EKU. At least JMU will be accustomed to the big OL/DL types that NDSU has on its roster. A number of the CAA teams are built that way.

[Silenoz]

Alright, now take down NDSU JMU!

[Drblankstare]

I'm not sure JMU has exactly instilled any fear in NDSU...
JMU's O line looked sieve like at times, I wasn't impressed by that, but they got it done. I'm sure that most bison fans feel good about what they saw today.

[jmufan999]

I'm not sure JMU has exactly instilled any fear in NDSU...

Maybe not, but I think we get back our LT next week, Marshall transfer A.J. Scott. He makes a huge difference in helping us get to the perimeter, which we could not do today.

Luckily, football really doesn't have anything to do with instilling fear. We get to start over next week and I hope that we play better then.

[UNI Pike]

Crash Davis: Never f--- with a losing streak

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-24SdUriUww/Srhg5ju9aPI/AAAAAAAAAFU/2Dkrli8QArM/s200/BullDurham.jpg

[Bam]

Tough lose eku. Moral victories suck ***. Good luck jmu

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

Been over at CAAZone... what a game! EKU played great and showed they deserved a shot in the playoffs this year. JMU found a way to pull through in the end, but it was a tough battle the whole way. Congrats to EKU on a great season - I'm sure your young team will be favorites in the OVC next year. You earned the respect of this and many JMU fans today. We are fortunate to be moving on, although I am guess we will get beat in Fargo unless NDSU is still reeling from injuries.

[JmuSkinsfan]

Wasn't EKU best against the run? They shut down our run in the first half or this game wouldn't have been as close. JMU defense really stepped up big in the 2nd half, aside from that 1 long run.

[Tubby Raymond]

Thank goodness that's over

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

I'm not sure JMU has exactly instilled any fear in NDSU...

They have instilled some fear in me!! xlolxxlolxxlolx

I'm just glad some of our seniors have the chance to play one more game, and that in the game I believe farthest ever from JMU. If the players go in with a loose attitude of having fun, but focused on their position's play, they can pull an upset next week. I wouldn't bet on it though.

[SonuvaHenx2]

Nice win, JMU xthumbsupx
Good luck representing the CAA next week in Fargo! xnodx

[Cleets]

They have instilled some fear in me!! xlolxxlolxxlolx

I'm just glad some of our seniors have the chance to play one more game, and that in the game I believe farthest ever from JMU. If the players go in with a loose attitude of having fun, but focused on their position's play, they can pull an upset next week. I wouldn't bet on it though.

They'll probably play a better game next week - I'd guess
However: The pass blocking has got to get batter - against NDSU that is for certain

[GoColonels!]

Just got back to the house from the game--
Hats off to to the Dukes--good luck in Fargo
Helluva game--hard-hitting, smash-mouth football.
Smallish holiday crowd, but lots of energy at Roy Kidd stadium today.
Great season, Colonels!

[ekufbfan]

Tough lose eku. Moral victories suck ***. Good luck jmu

NO SUCH THING! You win or You lose.
Congrats JMU.

[Cleets]

Just got back to the house from the game--
Hats off to to the Dukes--good luck in Fargo
Helluva game--hard-hitting, smash-mouth football.
Smallish holiday crowd, but lots of energy at Roy Kidd stadium today.
Great season, Colonels!


That EKU defense is for real..!!!!

[Gil Dobie]

Look forward to seeing JMU play in Fargo next weekend.

Congrats on a good season EKU

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

They'll probably play a better game next week - I'd guess
However: The pass blocking has got to get batter - against NDSU that is for certain

Pass blocking? We pass??? But seriously, getting our LT back will help a lot. Still, we really should never be passing more than 10-12 times per game or we are likely losing. NDSU will be an uphill battle regardless.

[ekufbfan]

Just got back to the house from the game--
Hats off to to the Dukes--good luck in Fargo
Helluva game--hard-hitting, smash-mouth football.
Smallish holiday crowd, but lots of energy at Roy Kidd stadium today.
Great season, Colonels!

These are the kind of games we never lost in our championships years! No excuses, JMU won. We need vast improvement on offense period.

[jmufan999]

People (I guess just JMU fans, most other fans haven't seen him) forget how good LT A.J. Scott is. He is only a freshman but he's a man-child. He has great feet and I wouldn't expect him to get beaten the way our fill-in was getting beaten today. If he's not back, we could be in serious trouble.

He's that good.

[GoColonels!]

@ekufbfan--
On the EKU offense--yeah its been frustrating--especially since I think the talent is definitely there at the skilled positions. Watching TJ throw the bomb has at various times in his career been an awesome thing to behold, and as a veteran he has tended to avoid some of the mental errors he made back when he was a freshman. Denham is obviously the real deal, and Goard is as talented a receiver as you'll find in FCS these days. Our o-line was banged up today and it showed on all those blown third-and short plays (contrast with JMU converting time and again on what Coach Hood just called on the radio post-game show "third and Berea"). Still, all in all our defense was huge today--Vance, Attig, Bell, Caldwell, Patch--all of 'em--great work! With all those three-and-outs in the second half, we just asked WAY too much of them.

[JmuSkinsfan]

People (I guess just JMU fans, most other fans haven't seen him) forget how good LT A.J. Scott is. He is only a freshman but he's a man-child. He has great feet and I wouldn't expect him to get beaten the way our fill-in was getting beaten today. If he's not back, we could be in serious trouble.

He's that good.

He transferred from Marshall, where I believe he was slated as a starter before transferring (as a freshman) ... not sure why he transferred though.

[kfkolonel]

Congrats. Go get 'em, JMU.

[EKU Toss Sweep]

Hats off to the Dukes. Enjoyed the company of the few that I met. -- Good luck next week JMU!

[katstrapper]

That EKU defense is for real..!!!!

xconfusedx

[Cleets]

xconfusedx

I thought the EKU defense looked damn good - and that surprised me a little bit
I guess I could have said "Boy that JMU offense look like crap"

[katstrapper]

I thought the EKU defense looked damn good - and that surprised me a little bit
I guess I could have said "Boy that JMU offense look like crap"

Could have said that too.

I will say, EKU has a nice facility.

[Longhorn]

They have instilled some fear in me!! xlolxxlolxxlolx

I'm just glad some of our seniors have the chance to play one more game, and that in the game I believe farthest ever from JMU. If the players go in with a loose attitude of having fun, but focused on their position's play, they can pull an upset next week. I wouldn't bet on it though.


I tell you what, with your defeatist outlook/attitude, why don't you just go fishing next week? xlolxxlolxxlolx

[EKU Toss Sweep]

I thought the EKU defense looked damn good - and that surprised me a little bit
I guess I could have said "Boy that JMU offense look like crap"

Just wish we could have gotten the D off the field for a blow in 4th quarter. But then JMU had something to do with that too.

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

Longhorn, I am not being defeatist, but realistic. EKU's defensive line was doing a great job on the JMU o-line until the fourth quarter. Now, I was only listening to Schickman through the Internet, but from what I heard, it sounded far more like the offense we had against ODU and UNH than we had the past two weeks against URI and UMass. I attribute that to our young o-line still learning (aside from C Babington), and playing against better teams. This was the FIRST team we beat all year with a winning record aside from Liberty. It was a 3-point squeaker on the road despite dominating the statistics. I am not going to apologize for feeling a bit worried about facing the #2 seed in NDSU. They are solid and JMU is to me not a better team right now. Maybe getting AJ Scott back will change things, but I have a feeling we will still see weaknesses on our o-line that prevent our playmakers from realizing their potential.

Does that mean I am not supporting JMU? Of course I support and root for the Dukes like crazy. Do I think the Dukes can win next week? Absolutely. But it will take a lot of things going right for the Dukes to win. No way Montana should have come into BFS in 2008 and won in the semifinals that year, but they did with the help of turnovers and injuries. Similarly, it will take a solid effort plus some fortuitous bounces of the ball for JMU to leave Fargo with a win.

Sorry if I am not some homer that only looks at the glass half full. I can see the glass that way, but I also see the empty part. I try not to overstate either side too much.

Anyway, we're fans. I'm sure the players are thrilled and excited and will play their hearts out once again. But yes, I am not confident about next week's game and JMU's chances to win.

[kdinva]

How many people are in those far stands? 9? Jeesh.

Box says 2,388? xconfusedx xsmhx JMU's AD really feels down now.......easily 17,000 would have been in Har'burg.

http://64.246.64.33/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/scores/final/boxscore.aspx?GAMEID=35097

[caribbeanhen]

Box says 2,388? xconfusedx xsmhx JMU's AD really feels down now.......easily 17,000 would have been in Har'burg.

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why did EKU bid on the game again?

[EKU Toss Sweep]

why did EKU bid on the game again?

As a reward to the team, the coaching staff and the fans for getting back to the playoffs. Why would you not bid on the playoffs?

[GSU Eagle]

The playoffs are great but for the teams that lose it is a sudden shock that the season is over. EKU had nothing to be ashamed of-- they played a good game and in my opinion showed they belonged in the playoffs.

Remember the flea flicker that would have been an easy TD but the running back overthrew it in the 4th quarter. EKU makes that play and they are probably headed to NDSU. That is the nature of the playoffs.

Anyway congrats to EKU on a nice season.

[ekufbfan]

The playoffs are great but for the teams that lose it is a sudden shock that the season is over. EKU had nothing to be ashamed of-- they played a good game and in my opinion showed they belonged in the playoffs.

Remember the flea flicker that would have been an easy TD but the running back overthrew it in the 4th quarter. EKU makes that play and they are probably headed to NDSU. That is the nature of the playoffs.

Anyway congrats to EKU on a nice season.
Classy post, thanks GSU and best of luck to you. Would like to see us play each other again.

[Engineer86]

The playoffs are great but for the teams that lose it is a sudden shock that the season is over. EKU had nothing to be ashamed of-- they played a good game and in my opinion showed they belonged in the playoffs.

Remember the flea flicker that would have been an easy TD but the running back overthrew it in the 4th quarter. EKU makes that play and they are probably headed to NDSU. That is the nature of the playoffs.

Anyway congrats to EKU on a nice season.

How true! The game swings so quickly, between the flea flicker here and the late INT in Albany - SB, it is easy to see completely different outcomes. None of these teams that lose tough games have any reason to be anything but proud of great seasons! xbowxxbowxxbowxxthumbsupxxthumbsupxxthumbsupx

[Bam]

I just woke up from afternoon (ok I passed out) nap. I'm so proud of the colonels after todays game. Crowd that was there wad loud and almost help the fellas pull one out.

[Jazzman1522]

Really enjoyed this game and, although I was disappointed in the outcome, I was proud of the Colonels today. Hats off to James Madison for sure. This was a hard fought, physical game, but both teams showed a lot of class throughout and at the end. Good luck to the Dukes in Fargo next week!

[TwoFeathers]

No shame in losing to JMU. They can be a very powerful team. Good luck JMU, and congrats on a great season (after a 1-3 start) Colonels!

[underdawg]

Being a Saluki Fan, I'm not a big fan of NDSU but SIU had a pretty damn good offense but could only score 6 points against the Bison. JMU is toast. Sorry

[caribbeanhen]

As a reward to the team, the coaching staff and the fans for getting back to the playoffs. Why would you not bid on the playoffs?

because eveyone went to Wal mart instead of the game.... I wanted to see a bigger crowd thats all, looked like a high school game

[ekufbfan]

because eveyone went to Wal mart instead of the game.... I wanted to see a bigger crowd thats all, looked like a high school game

Classless remark and insinuation. No students on campus and dorms closed (what was the University thinking here) and the rest either in Lex watching uk (20 minutes away unfortunately) or home watching them on the tube. Nevertheless it was a pathetic turnout and one EKU fans are not happy about. But at least we have some class, not sure about some of you "hens'!

[GridCaptain]

Attendance at Thanksgiving weekend games in the FCS is usually way down. No shame in a bad day. Great season for EKU. Roy Kidd would be proud.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Attendance at Thanksgiving weekend games in the FCS is usually way down. No shame in a bad day. Great season for EKU. Roy Kidd would be proud.

16279......OL' ROY..IS PROUD....HE'S STILL KICKIN'.......xnodx....BRAWK!

STILL DRAWIN' X'S & O'S...IN DUH APPLESAUCE.....AN' SHOVIN' DUH 314..TA TUBBY'S..300.....IN EVERAH X-MAS CARD HE WRITES......AWK!

[caribbeanhen]

Classless remark and insinuation. No students on campus and dorms closed (what was the University thinking here) and the rest either in Lex watching uk (20 minutes away unfortunately) or home watching them on the tube. Nevertheless it was a pathetic turnout and one EKU fans are not happy about. But at least we have some class, not sure about some of you "hens'!

C'mon... Wal-mart joke... ok maybe just a bit classless, but remember EKU surprised FCS nation by even being selected to this tourney meaning Delaware was the last team out so sour grapes here

[ekufbfan]

16279......OL' ROY..IS PROUD....HE'S STILL KICKIN'.......xnodx....BRAWK!

STILL DRAWIN' X'S & O'S...IN DUH APPLESAUCE.....AN' SHOVIN' DUH 314..TA TUBBY'S..300.....IN EVERAH X-MAS CARD HE WRITES......AWK!

Guess you didn't see him on tv yesterday. You better hope you look as good as he does (at that age) and can play the golf game he does.

[caribbeanhen]

Guess you didn't see him on tv yesterday. You better hope you look as good as he does (at that age) and can play the golf game he does.

looks like you quoted the wrong guy as Mr Chicken was helping the guy before that insiuated that Roy Kidd had already passed

[whitey]

C'mon... Wal-mart joke... ok maybe just a bit classless, but remember EKU surprised FCS nation by even being selected to this tourney meaning Delaware was the last team out so sour grapes here

Delaware wasn't the last team out, Illinois State was. This has been discussed ad nauseum.

[caribbeanhen]

Delaware wasn't the last team out, Illinois State was. This has been discussed ad nauseum.

dont be a NCAA rule book troll, just give me the best 20 teams

[MR. CHICKEN]

Guess you didn't see him on tv yesterday. You better hope you look as good as he does (at that age) and can play the golf game he does.

16280......AH DID SEE HIM...ON DUH TUBE......WAS HOW AH KNEW HE'S STILL KICKIN'..........xnodx.....BRAWK!

[Redbird Ray]

Both OVC teams are gone already? Shocking. xcoffeex

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Both OVC teams are gone already? Shocking. xcoffeex


Illinois State, IMO, would have beaten both JMU and UCA. What the hell happened in that Eastern Ill game?
ISU had the defense to do very well in the playoffs.

[Redbird Ray]

Illinois State, IMO, would have beaten both JMU and UCA. What the hell happened in that Eastern Ill game?
ISU had the defense to do very well in the playoffs.

Our defense was still pretty raw early in they year. If you recall, last season (2010) our defense was abysmal. In early games against EIU, Morehead State, and Youngstown State, we gave up a lot of points. By October, some of the new things that coach Spack wanted to implement were starting to come together. By then end of the year, our defense was among the best in FCS. I agree, we could have done some damage had JMU and EKU not cheated their way into the playoffs.

[whitey]

LOL.

[EKU Toss Sweep]

Our defense was still pretty raw early in they year. If you recall, last season (2010) our defense was abysmal. In early games against EIU, Morehead State, and Youngstown State, we gave up a lot of points. By October, some of the new things that coach Spack wanted to implement were starting to come together. By then end of the year, our defense was among the best in FCS. I agree, we could have done some damage had JMU and EKU not cheated their way into the playoffs.

Please refresh my memory Redbird, where do you stand on the whole Kennedy assassination conspiracy theory and did we ever actually put a man on the moon?

The committee picks the 20 teams that they believe belong in the field. Yes it is a subjective process, but it works. Soon it will be 24 teams. It will still be subjective and #25 will feel slighted. Yes, I know EKU got beat yesterday and the OVC went 0 for 2. That doesn't mean the Colonels didn't belong in the field. It took a last second field goal to out us and we will now watch the playoffs like many others.

EKU got the invite, outbid JMU and hosted an opening round game. There was no grassy knoll in the selection process, however I do wish we had put a few more fans on the hill in the north endzone.

[Cocky]

Both OVC teams are gone already? Shocking. xcoffeex

How many OVC teams did ISU beat this year?

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Please refresh my memory Redbird, where do you stand on the whole Kennedy assassination conspiracy theory and did we ever actually put a man on the moon?

The committee picks the 20 teams that they believe belong in the field. Yes it is a subjective process, but it works. Soon it will be 24 teams. It will still be subjective and #25 will feel slighted. Yes, I know EKU got beat yesterday and the OVC went 0 for 2. That doesn't mean the Colonels didn't belong in the field. It took a last second field goal to out us and we will now watch the playoffs like many others.

EKU got the invite, outbid JMU and hosted an opening round game. There was no grassy knoll in the selection process, however I do wish we had put a few more fans on the hill in the north endzone.


2388 fans is pretty pathetic for a playoff game.

JMU's AD really blew it in his bid.

[Hammerhead]

EKU will be dipping into their athletic dep't funds to meet their bid, right? That might hurt their program more than having to go on the road for a playoff game.

[FargoBison]

Hasn't the OVC lost 21 straight playoff games? Why are OVC fans even saying anything at this point?

[Cleets]

EKU will be dipping into their athletic dep't funds to meet their bid, right? That might hurt their program more than having to go on the road for a playoff game.

Which begs the question:
Why was Mickey so vocal about not getting a home game..?
All he has to do is walk down the hallway from his office to get the answer

[whitey]

Which begs the question:
Why was Mickey so vocal about not getting a home game..?
All he has to do is walk down the hallway from his office to get the answer

MM wasn't that vocal about getting a home game actually. Not sure where you are getting this from. From all the press conferences I saw this past week everytime the question came up his standard answer was something along the lines of, "I don't really have an answer for that and that's probably a better question for Mr. Bourne."

[ekufbfan]

Hasn't the OVC lost 21 straight playoff games? Why are OVC fans even saying anything at this point?
I just returned home from a long trip back from the area around our country's capital, do you have a clue where that is (or is Fargo so far removed from the rest of us that you don't understand our country's rights)? And as far as I know we still have FREE speech in this country. I am so sick of all this holier than thou crap thrown out from some of you. GET A LIFE! Just curious, what position did you play in college..or did you play...perhaps you are just a wanna be. That is usually the case as most MEN who have played football have a little more respect (and intelligence ) than to throw out such nonsense.

[ekufbfan]

Our defense was still pretty raw early in they year. If you recall, last season (2010) our defense was abysmal. In early games against EIU, Morehead State, and Youngstown State, we gave up a lot of points. By October, some of the new things that coach Spack wanted to implement were starting to come together. By then end of the year, our defense was among the best in FCS. I agree, we could have done some damage had JMU and EKU not cheated their way into the playoffs.



Dang, I WISH we had that much clout. Can you read (this has been discussed ad naseum) or do you just have your head up a place where the sun doesn't shine and don't care to face the facts. (i.e. You played Morehead State? The 'head does not offer scholarships, so is this one of your marquee wins that should have gotten you in? lol) Whine On!

[EKUSteve]

I am sure the EKU AD was shocked to hear they got the game...no wait a minute, he was on the selection comitte.... this smells like a rat

You do realize that JMU's AD was on the committee too, don't you?

[FargoBison]

I just returned home from a long trip back from the area around our country's capital, do you have a clue where that is (or is Fargo so far removed from the rest of us that you don't understand our country's rights)? And as far as I know we still have FREE speech in this country. I am so sick of all this holier than thou crap thrown out from some of you. GET A LIFE! Just curious, what position did you play in college..or did you play...perhaps you are just a wanna be. That is usually the case as most MEN who have played football have a little more respect (and intelligence ) than to throw out such nonsense.

Holier than thou? The OVC is zero for their last 21 in the FCS playoffs, I know some people may not like reality but it is what it is. If NDSU's conference preformed like that I'd be embarrassed beyond belief.

EKU did play well against a solid team, I'll give you that. But the OVC didn't deserve the at-large, ISUR got jobbed!

[ekufbfan]

Holier than thou? The OVC is zero for their last 21 in the FCS playoffs, I know some people may not like reality but it is what it is. If NDSU's conference preformed like that I'd be embarrassed beyond belief.

EKU did play well against a solid team, I'll give you that. But the OVC didn't deserve the at-large, ISUR got jobbed!

You think I like that we got beat? Hell-o no. However, as said above I believe this is a free country (still) and I was not embrassed by the Colonels yesterday and I will continue to post and yes we did deserve a bid ( WHO appointed you FCS master ? ).
Yes, I was very disappointed in our alumni and folks in Richmond for not turning out for the EKU game, because a bunch of them were in Lexington watching uk and that's pathetic (I agree with that issue).

[FargoBison]

It is a free country and I never said you couldn't say what you want to say. All I said is if I was an OVC fan I wouldn't be saying anything right now, if I was an EKU fan I'd be pissed that you lost that game. It was right there for the taking, for the record I don't want to see the OVC or any conference struggle but if a conference is not preforming I will criticize it and the committee for continually giving that conference multiple teams in the field.

I have said the same about the MEAC, I would say the same about any conference.

[Jazzman1522]

Ok, I'm gonna say this in defense of my alma mater, and then I'm gonna shut up about it because I don't really care for arguments over the internet. Kind of a lame form of social interaction, if you ask me. But this was a nice classy discussion before a few people came in and re-started the conspiracy theories and ripping on us for poor attendance and being in a conference that hasn't won in a long time, etc. Let me explain a couple things:

First, on the subject of attendance. Pathetic numbers, absolutely. But the fans that were there were completely into it and I'd like to think gave us a bit of an advantage. Something to be said for those 2,000 or so of us that did decide to come out I think. However, it was a NDSU fan who last pointed it out, so let me address it this way. I've never been to North Dakota, so I don't want to make an unfair statement. But it seems like NDSU might have an easier time getting people to come out because there's not exactly a better alternative. EKU has the misfortune of being just 30 minutes away from UK. I'm from Ohio. I clearly saw what was incredible statewide devotion to UK throughout the state. And if you think it's just basketball, you're wrong. They sell out every game in 65,000 seat stadium in spite of the fact that they pretty much suck at football. Most of the students I knew in school were UK fans their entire lives and would not give that up just because they went to Eastern. Many of them would barely support Eastern because of it. I don't agree with that. I think you should support your school. But that's the way it is here.

Now, about us not being able to talk because of our conference's performance. NDSU's had a great start to their FCS era, and that's to be commended. But Eastern's been doing this just a little bit longer. One school has more playoff appearances than we do, and we are ninth all time in playoff victories. Yeah, we've had better days. And you're having your good days now. But it may not last forever. I hope that if NDSU, any other school, hits a dry spell in the playoffs, it's fans will still have the stones to engage in civilized discussion about FCS football in an area that doesn't assume they aren't knowledgeable because their team isn't playing that great.

Lastly, the EKU-ISUr controversy is an EKU-ISUr controversy, not an OVC-MVFC controversy. Forget the OVC's playoff record for a minute (if you can), and look at the two team's body of work. They had two common opponents. Eastern went 2-0 against them. ISUr was 1-1. EKU was a minute and a half away from beating Kansas State with a true freshman backup playing quarterback. And I don't care that ISUr played EIU at the beginning of the season or whatever excuse they have their. Every game counts. If you still think they got the shaft, I don't know what to tell you. Sorry about your luck I guess. But now they're both sitting at home for the rest of the season, so I don't really think it matters.

That is all, thank you.

[Houndawg]

Holier than thou? The OVC is zero for their last 21 in the FCS playoffs, I know some people may not like reality but it is what it is. If NDSU's conference preformed like that I'd be embarrassed beyond belief.

EKU did play well against a solid team, I'll give you that. But the OVC didn't deserve the at-large, ISUR got jobbed!

ISU did not get jobbed. Zero good wins and a horrible loss and they were still in win-and-in position for their last game and didn't get it done. I don't think the OVC deserves an at large based on their history, but ISU got jobbed by nobody but themselves. It was unfortunate for the MVC that InSU got beaten, at home, in the same win-and-in scenario, and that YSU, once again in the same win-and-in position, chose the day to pull the choke job of the season and make it easy for the selection committee. Too bad, the MVC had a chance to make some noise this year but underachieved.

[FargoBison]

My opinion on ISUR is that they were not a good team at the start of the season but by the end of the season they were great. That said they have nobody to blame but themselves, they had UNI beat but then allowed them to march down the field. I will always say the MVFC deserved a third team but in the end it is their fault that they were in the position that they were in. If you only have 7 DI wins you are leaving yourself completely at the mercy of the committee.

Maybe I shouldn't say ISUR got jobbed, but instead the MVFC got jobbed. The league was too good to only get two teams in, oddly the league was much worse last year and got three teams in.

[ekufbfan]

Jazzman, well said. I have nothing to add you said it all sir. Thank you.
As for EKU, we will be back next year, you can bet on it.
Adios for now.

[Houndawg]

My opinion on ISUR is that they were not a good team at the start of the season but by the end of the season they were great. That said they have nobody to blame but themselves, they had UNI beat but then allowed them to march down the field. I will always say the MVFC deserved a third team but in the end it is their fault that they were in the position that they were in. If you only have 7 DI wins you are leaving yourself completely at the mercy of the committee.

Maybe I shouldn't say ISUR got jobbed, but instead the MVFC got jobbed. The league was too good to only get two teams in, oddly the league was much worse last year and got three teams in.

I think we should have had three too, no doubt the MVC was much stronger this season, but all three candidates blew it out their arses. Those three win and the committee would have had a real problem.

[caribbeanhen]

You do realize that JMU's AD was on the committee too, don't you?

did your guy let on that he had the photos of the JMU guy?

[Redbird Ray]

ISU did not get jobbed. Zero good wins and a horrible loss and they were still in win-and-in position for their last game and didn't get it done. I don't think the OVC deserves an at large based on their history, but ISU got jobbed by nobody but themselves. It was unfortunate for the MVC that InSU got beaten, at home, in the same win-and-in scenario, and that YSU, once again in the same win-and-in position, chose the day to pull the choke job of the season and make it easy for the selection committee. Too bad, the MVC had a chance to make some noise this year but underachieved.

Neither EKU nor JMU had what you might call "good wins" either. ISUR clearly played in a better conference than both schools this year. EKU and JMU had their AD's on the selection committee. Really not that hard to see what went on here.

Of course SIU fans are the only fans in the MVFC not willing to stick up for ISUR. Have fun finishing in last place in bball this year. xlolx

[th0m]

"clearly" better conference? How is it so clear? And our AD's leave the room when their teams are being discussed in order to avoid conflict of interest.

[jmu_duke07]

Neither EKU nor JMU had what you might call "good wins" either. ISUR clearly played in a better conference than both schools this year. EKU and JMU had their AD's on the selection committee. Really not that hard to see what went on here.

Of course SIU fans are the only fans in the MVFC not willing to stick up for ISUR. Have fun finishing in last place in bball this year. xlolx


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ&feature=related

[Cocky]

Neither EKU nor JMU had what you might call "good wins" either. ISUR clearly played in a better conference than both schools this year. EKU and JMU had their AD's on the selection committee. Really not that hard to see what went on here.

Of course SIU fans are the only fans in the MVFC not willing to stick up for ISUR. Have fun finishing in last place in bball this year. xlolx

How is it clearly better when the OVC and MVC were 2-2 and one of your better teams lost to one of our worst.
The CAA is so far ahead of the MVC I have no need to go in that direction.

[FargoBison]

How is it clearly better when the OVC and MVC were 2-2 and one of your better teams lost to one of our worst.
The CAA is so far ahead of the MVC I have no need to go in that direction.

The MVFC is basically .500 against the CAA in the playoffs over the past five or so years. The OVC is miles behind the MVFC.

[caribbeanhen]

The MVFC is basically .500 against the CAA in the playoffs over the past five or so years. The OVC is miles behind the MVFC.

basically .500 sounds like a lie

[FargoBison]

basically .500 sounds like a lie

Since 2006 the MVFC is 5-5 vs the CAA in the FCS playoffs, most of the games have been at MVFC stadiums though.

The MVFC's real problem is vs SoCon schools, our playoff record is abysmal vs that conference.

[EKUSteve]

did your guy let on that he had the photos of the JMU guy?

I believe they were pics of him doing something with a Blue Hen :)

[caribbeanhen]

I believe they were pics of him doing something with a Blue Hen :)

thats nasty but highly probable

[Houndawg]

Neither EKU nor JMU had what you might call "good wins" either. ISUR clearly played in a better conference than both schools this year. EKU and JMU had their AD's on the selection committee. Really not that hard to see what went on here.

Of course SIU fans are the only fans in the MVFC not willing to stick up for ISUR. Have fun finishing in last place in bball this year. xlolx

I was at the game, Ray, you won on a fumble return, and hardly looked like one of the nations best defenses you claimed to be, at the end of October against a 2-6 SIU team. I believe that the MVC is strong and would have had at least 3 teams and likely 4 except for a perfect storm of triple chokesmanship on the last day of the season by the birds, trees, and guins.....you just can't ignore the loss to EIU, who got stomped by both EKU and 2-7 SIU, regardless of when it occurred.

And Ray: real men don't care about bb, now dry your eyes and wipe your nose and sit home and watch the playoffs.

[Cocky]

The MVFC is basically .500 against the CAA in the playoffs over the past five or so years. The OVC is miles behind the MVFC.

OVC was 2-2 this year vs the MVC so must be a short mile year.

[FargoBison]

OVC was 2-2 this year vs the MVC so must be a short mile year.

Massey...

1. MVFC
2. SoCon
3. CAA
4. Big Sky
5. Southland
6. Patriot
7. OVC

Enough said. I don't mind the OVC(usually I cheer for their teams when not playing against the MVFC) but please do something in the playoffs before comparing yourself to the MVFC.

[Redbird Ray]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc11.htm?loc=interstitialskip

Even with no teams playing last week, the MVFC is still #1 in FCS. Pretty sure the MVFC went 3-1 against the OVC this year as well.

So Houndawg, it's ok for a team that played in the highest rated conference in the country, and a national ranking in the top 20 for the final month of the season, to be surpassed by two teams that played in inferior conferences with lower national rankings? The polls were obviously pretty forgiving when it came to ISU's week 1 loss to EIU when ISU proceeded to go 5-1 down the stretch in the nation's toughest conference.

[ekufbfan]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc11.htm?loc=interstitialskip

Even with no teams playing last week, the MVFC is still #1 in FCS. Pretty sure the MVFC went 3-1 against the OVC this year as well.

So Houndawg, it's ok for a team that played in the highest rated conference in the country, and a national ranking in the top 20 for the final month of the season, to be surpassed by two teams that played in inferior conferences with lower national rankings? The polls were obviously pretty forgiving when it came to ISU's week 1 loss to EIU when ISU proceeded to go 5-1 down the stretch in the nation's toughest conference.
Good Grief Man, GIVE! IT! A REST!
I am sure that Coach Hood would play you guys anytime. You think you can beat us, play us. That's the ONLY way you have an argument, beat us on the field. Games are not played on paper, message boards or in rankings (not in FCS anyway). Meanwhile...please the whining is getting very old. xbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingx

BTW, one of your signature wins was against Morehead State (KY), a non scholarship program.

[Redhawk2010]

Pretty sure the MVFC went 3-1 against the OVC this year as well.


POSITIVE you'd be wrong. The MVFC lost a minimum of two games to OVC schools this season. Illinois State lost to EIU and Missouri State lost to EKU.

That's quite some math you pull off in Chicago..

[FargoBison]

Yes, the MVFC is indeed 2-2 vs the OVC this year.

MSU lost to EKU by 4
ISUR lost to EIU by 7
SIU beat SEMO by 28
SIU beat EIU by 17

[Houndawg]

SIU was 2-0 vs the OVC, don't know about anybody else, except ISU.

[Houndawg]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc11.htm?loc=interstitialskip

Even with no teams playing last week, the MVFC is still #1 in FCS. Pretty sure the MVFC went 3-1 against the OVC this year as well.

So Houndawg, it's ok for a team that played in the highest rated conference in the country, and a national ranking in the top 20 for the final month of the season, to be surpassed by two teams that played in inferior conferences with lower national rankings? The polls were obviously pretty forgiving when it came to ISU's week 1 loss to EIU when ISU proceeded to go 5-1 down the stretch in the nation's toughest conference.


All you had to do was win and you were in. Like I said, it didn't help that all the MVC contenders for the remaining at large bids stunk the same day you did, but they did, and it cast the MVC in an unfavorable light. You lost to your two toughest opponents and beat nobody of consequence; you made it easy for the committee.