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AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 04:04 PM
Brownie's saying on the radio that we should put in DP to shake things up, offensively. Thoughts?
boonedocks
December 3rd, 2011, 04:06 PM
Maine has been better in every phase today. Have to get a stop here. I agree with Brownie, why not?
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 04:06 PM
At this point why not....."predictable" was thrown around on the radio too. You know you are when those two homers are saying it.
asuboys
December 3rd, 2011, 04:06 PM
Brownie's saying on the radio that we should put in DP to shake things up, offensively. Thoughts?
Agree. What do we have to lose at this point...
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:06 PM
HOOD!!!
AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 04:07 PM
Jesus. TD Maine. Rough stuff.
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:07 PM
David Hood rumbles for 54 yards and another Maine TD. It is looking bleak for ASU.
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:07 PM
27-6 Maine with six minutes left in the third.
boonedocks
December 3rd, 2011, 04:07 PM
ouch...over. Good game Maine.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:07 PM
Maine 27 App State 6
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 04:07 PM
And the stands begin to empty
AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 04:08 PM
There's still ball left to play.
Mattymc727
December 3rd, 2011, 04:08 PM
Great game Maine. Very impressive
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:09 PM
Cadet returns it to the ASU 44 on the KO
R3TRO
December 3rd, 2011, 04:10 PM
App State was just outmatched today. No doubt about that.
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 04:10 PM
There's still ball left to play.
Yeah and I will stay with it (because I'm a fan / alum), but you want to tell me this team showed up today and has it in themselves to get off the mat?
AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 04:11 PM
Yeah and I will stay with it (because I'm a fan / alum), but you want to tell me this team showed up today and has it in themselves to get off the mat?
All I'm saying is that the game's not over. The quarter's not even over.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:11 PM
Good grief.....
asuboys
December 3rd, 2011, 04:11 PM
...and Apps pitiful offensive line holds true again...
asuboys
December 3rd, 2011, 04:13 PM
Can anyone understand these NEC refs...?
Old Cat Fan
December 3rd, 2011, 04:15 PM
Way to go Maine, nice game good luck next round
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:15 PM
Maine over thinking it now......come on just run the damn ball!
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:18 PM
When Maine starts playing prevent and conservative.......that's when they get into trouble
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 04:22 PM
Well they better get into trouble quicky for our sake.
OxSoxUNH05
December 3rd, 2011, 04:22 PM
Just caught this score. Way to represent Northern New England
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:24 PM
Jackson converts a fourth-down pass at the Maine 8 and a defensive holding call in the end zone will give ASU a first down at the four late in the third period.
dwtime
December 3rd, 2011, 04:25 PM
Wow that holding call was brutally bad.
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:25 PM
Cadet on the wildcat to the one as the third period ends.
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:26 PM
Wow that holding call was brutally bad.
It looked like pass interference.
UNH_Alum_In_CT
December 3rd, 2011, 04:26 PM
Wow that holding call was brutally bad.
No kidding!!
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:26 PM
Maine took on a different persona on their last offensive possession........now the whole team seems out of sorts a bit.......way too much time left to let down now!
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 04:27 PM
It's ok, just need three quick scores in 15:00....it could happen.
UNH_Alum_In_CT
December 3rd, 2011, 04:27 PM
It looked like pass interference.
Not on the replay.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:27 PM
It looked like pass interference.
But it wasn't.......just like it wasn't a fumble in the 1st half
dwtime
December 3rd, 2011, 04:27 PM
It looked like pass interference.
Really? seriously what part of his body was interfereing?
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:28 PM
Cadet for the TD. Maine 27, ASU 12. PAT to come.
dwtime
December 3rd, 2011, 04:28 PM
Not on the replay.
Exactly.
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 04:28 PM
one down......
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:29 PM
PAT is missed wide left after a Maine offsides penalty. The first kick was good, but the play was blown dead for some reason.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:29 PM
LOL.......
dwtime
December 3rd, 2011, 04:29 PM
Huge miss, on the XP might force them to go for 2 if they score again.
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 04:30 PM
they even spotted us 1.5 yards on that one
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 04:32 PM
Roosevelt Boone, he should have went to ASU.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:32 PM
Smith really tightening up.....come on Warren!
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:33 PM
Three and out for Maine with 13:39 left in the fourth.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:33 PM
Maine totally out of sorts now......it's gonna be an interesting finish
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:35 PM
15,201 attendance for today's game.
ccd494
December 3rd, 2011, 04:37 PM
Get back to your aggressive defense Maine, jeesh.
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:37 PM
ASU on the move to the 41.
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:38 PM
Long pass to Quick falls incomplete on first down.
Milktruck74
December 3rd, 2011, 04:39 PM
Quick has 14 yards rec and 15 yards in penaltys.....net -1
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:39 PM
Quick tries to move to soon on a pass and drops a ball and then tosses it away and gets called for a ticky-tack unsportsmanlike penalty.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:40 PM
This game turning into a snail race........
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:40 PM
Kendall James interception on a Jackson overthrow at the Maine 40.
MR. CHICKEN
December 3rd, 2011, 04:41 PM
TEMPER TEMPER...DERE...QUICKIE!
MR. CHICKEN
December 3rd, 2011, 04:42 PM
MAINE OINKY!...DUH BEARS!
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:42 PM
Move those chains! :)
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:44 PM
TD!!!!.....Brown!
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:44 PM
Brown on a stretch play goes for a 31-yard TD with 9:30 remaining.
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:44 PM
Maine 33, ASU 12.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:44 PM
Maine 34 App State 12
AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 04:44 PM
Wow. We really, really have given up. Mercy rule?
TwoFeathers
December 3rd, 2011, 04:45 PM
Is Maine that good?
SeattleGriz
December 3rd, 2011, 04:46 PM
Wow. We really, really have given up. Mercy rule?
Hate to say it, but you guys gave up last year against Villanova. Not trying to be dick, but App has really gotten soft the last couple of years.
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 04:46 PM
Is Maine that good?
No, ASU just wasn't that good this year and showed why.
asuboys
December 3rd, 2011, 04:46 PM
Is Maine that good?
We'll find out in Statesboro
AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 04:46 PM
Is Maine that good?
Who the hell knows. They've played very well today.
AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 04:47 PM
Hate to say it, but you guys gave up last year against Villanova. Not trying to be dick, but App has really gotten soft the last couple of years.
I think complacent is a better word.
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 04:47 PM
great game Maine, good luck with the Eagles next week.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:49 PM
This 2nd half has been painful.......
dwtime
December 3rd, 2011, 04:50 PM
Great job Maine, didn't expect this one.
GSU1-A
December 3rd, 2011, 04:51 PM
Does Maine have a great Quarterback? If so, will be another long game where my kids learn new words.. lol
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:51 PM
Stop yourmwhining QUick!
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:52 PM
With ASU on the seven, Jackson fumbles and Maine recovers at the Maine 29. Cole forced it and Coston recovered.
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 04:52 PM
This game reminds me of the Florida A&M beat-down of ASU in 1999's first round.
AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 04:53 PM
I don't know why I can't turn this game off.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:53 PM
Maine doing all they can to extend this game.....GDammit
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 04:54 PM
ASU needs this to get back on track.
FBS should be an after thought at this point. We need some changes in the locker room, most importantly at the assistant coaches level. The days of getting lucky using former players on the cheap should be in the past.
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 04:55 PM
I don't know why I can't turn this game off.
B/c we have the knack of pulling it out at the end, but given the score it is getting out of reach.
asknoquarter21
December 3rd, 2011, 04:55 PM
Wonder what Scott Satterfield is thinking right now
asuboys
December 3rd, 2011, 04:56 PM
ASU needs this to get back on track.
FBS should be an after thought at this point. We need some changes in the locker room, most importantly at the assistant coaches level. The days of getting lucky using former players on the cheap should be in the past.
+1
AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 04:57 PM
ASU needs this to get back on track.
FBS should be an after thought at this point. We need some changes in the locker room, most importantly at the assistant coaches level. The days of getting lucky using former players on the cheap should be in the past.
I agree with all of this. I don't think one off season spells the end of an FBS push. However, we have got to rebuild our coaching staff and toughen our team up. I've said for years that I was ready for some disappointment for the sake of clearing out some of the fairweather fans. I still feel that way. It still smarts, though.
henfan
December 3rd, 2011, 04:57 PM
Welcome to Crapsville, Apps. I'm buying this round.
Way to represent the CAA, UMaine. This week begins manbearpig hunting season.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 04:59 PM
Welcome to Crapsville, Apps. I'm buying this round.
Way to represent the CAA, UMaine. This week begins manbearpig hunting season.
LOL
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 05:01 PM
Another pick by Maine off of Jackson with 4:21 left.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 05:02 PM
Maine has some great looking young players.........if we can get our QB situation settled next season........
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 05:02 PM
Wonder what Scott Satterfield is thinking right now
Huh???
Mr. C
December 3rd, 2011, 05:03 PM
Maine looks like a refreshed team, more like the squad that played so well for two-thirds of this season. It will be an interesting matchup in Statesboro next week.
asknoquarter21
December 3rd, 2011, 05:05 PM
Huh???
We clearly haven't been the same team since he left. I like what Dale Jones is doing it just takes time.
Offensively we aren't improving. I don't have anything against Brad Glenn, Chris Moore, Trey Elder, and Jon Holt, but we obviously are lacking in offensive coaching.
AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 05:08 PM
Did the audio feed crap out for anyone else?
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 05:11 PM
Great game for Maine.......I didn't expect a thorough beat down like that.
Has to be disappointing for App State......classy outfit and fans. Maine aspires to your level of achievement and support!
asknoquarter21
December 3rd, 2011, 05:13 PM
Two years in a row I am disgusted with our coaching and playcalling in the playoffs
asknoquarter21
December 3rd, 2011, 05:13 PM
Did the audio feed crap out for anyone else?
Yes, I really REALLY wanted to hear what Jerry Moore had to say.
ASUG8
December 3rd, 2011, 05:13 PM
Congrats Mainers...total beatdown at our house.
AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 05:14 PM
Great game for Maine.......I didn't expect a thorough beat down like that.
Has to be disappointing for App State......classy outfit and fans. Maine aspires to your level of achievement and support!
Thanks for the kind words, Jeff. My best to Maine. They stomped us.
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 05:15 PM
I agree with all of this. I don't think one off season spells the end of an FBS push. However, we have got to rebuild our coaching staff and toughen our team up. I've said for years that I was ready for some disappointment for the sake of clearing out some of the fairweather fans. I still feel that way. It still smarts, though.
I mean you can't be on top forever, but I will say that the teams fielded the past couple of years just didn't have the toughness and determination that we would associate with ASU Football. Call it the blue collar metality or whatever you want to, but it just isn't there. We can't run between the tackles anymore, we make mistakes on special teams like we are getting paid to, and guys continue to get personal fouls and celebration penalties on plays that should be routine. The offensive fire is all but gone, drastically reduced by the play calling and the young offensive line and bad specialist play. If you add al these things up it means the assistant coaches are just not making it happen. Jerry Moore is a great coach, but at this point and it was this way in '05, '06, and '07 he is a figure head. Without fiery respectable assistants he can only influence so much. The young assistants we have now are just that. They have no reputation or experince to stand on, the players see them as peers and that leads to the inability to LEAD.
The fair weathers were dropping off the grid once we lost to Villanova last year.....they will continue to bleed off as we transition through some bad years.
SeattleGriz
December 3rd, 2011, 05:16 PM
Been saying it all year, the SoCon has no D.
weak, very weak.
Blueandwhitefightfight
December 3rd, 2011, 05:16 PM
I'm not trying to be a d*ck. What happened? I just saw the last two minutes and don't know. I'm sad that App. lost. I wanted them to win.
Is Maine just that good or did App. have a really off day? What should we expect from them in Statesboro next weekend?
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 05:18 PM
Expect a well coached and motivated team. They were not the most athletic, but had good size along both lines.
Wildcat80
December 3rd, 2011, 05:19 PM
No surprise to me....esp. after last year! Congrats Maine!
Apphole
December 3rd, 2011, 05:20 PM
I can believe I'm saying this, but it's time to respectfully usher Moore into retirement. We are an FBS ready program, but we still have the "good ol' boys" at the helm. Everything that happened today came down to terrible coaching. We had better athletes at every position and we were coached into the off season.
ASUG8
December 3rd, 2011, 05:22 PM
I'm not trying to be a d*ck. What happened? I just saw the last two minutes and don't know. I'm sad that App. lost. I wanted them to win.
Is Maine just that good or did App. have a really off day? What should we expect from them in Statesboro next weekend?
It's a bit of both really. It seemed like Maine had a force field set up on the 50 yard line for most of the first half with the 3 and outs by ASU. Maine just seemed to get yards that didn't appear to be available. They have a great run/pass balance that will keep the D on it's toes. App didn't look good, but that's no slight to the black bears. They pretty much shut down our running game (which has been suspect all season anyway) and forced the pass. It felt like they had 15 guys on D most of the game with the coverage of our receivers. Good luck GSU.
Appalachian
December 3rd, 2011, 05:23 PM
Pathetic! No excuses, our coaches lost this game. The worst play calling I have ever seen. I have never been so disgusted. We were in no way prepared
veinup
December 3rd, 2011, 05:23 PM
bummer apps. bummer.
JMU2K_DukeDawg
December 3rd, 2011, 05:24 PM
I agree with the above poster about Maine not being the most athletic, but they have heart and when I think of Maine this year I think, "Balance, Balance, Balance."
They will likely be as tough a defense as GSU will see in the playoffs this year. Discipline and hard work can take you far and this Maine team is a perfect example of that.
The Maine QB was thought by JMU's coach Mickey Matthews (for whatever that is worth - not much after a loss to them) as a hell of a player and as good as anyone in the CAA. I would agree having seen him in person. He is accurate, smart and a great field general.
Again, GSU will have superior athletes, but the score will not be 100+ over as it was this week vs. ODU. Maine was FAR better than ODU from what I saw. Offense not as good, but MUCH better defensively.
GO MAINE!! GO CAA!! xsmileyclapx
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 05:25 PM
Pathetic! No excuses, our coaches lost this game. The worst play calling I have ever seen. I have never been so disgusted. We were in no way prepared
The coaches were on the field playing? Wow......thye were pretty quick for a bunch of old guys.
blukeys
December 3rd, 2011, 05:25 PM
I can believe I'm saying this, but it's time to respectfully usher Moore into retirement. We are an FBS ready program, but we still have the "good ol' boys" at the helm. Everything that happened today came down to terrible coaching. We had better athletes at every position and we were coached into the off season.
Well if Morre was outcoached by Cosgrove then that would be a first according to Maine Jeff.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 05:26 PM
Maine is pretty athletic where it counts.......secondary and WR.
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 05:26 PM
I can believe I'm saying this, but it's time to respectfully usher Moore into retirement. We are an FBS ready program, but we still have the "good ol' boys" at the helm. Everything that happened today came down to terrible coaching. We had better athletes at every position and we were coached into the off season.
Well I wouldn't start the get rid of Jerry threads just yet like 2004, but remember what happened in 2005 after all that started.........
Cleets
December 3rd, 2011, 05:27 PM
Well I owe Maine a HUGE apology
I expected App State to be well prepared and to roll...
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 05:27 PM
Well if Morre was outcoached by Cosgrove then that would be a first according to Maine Jeff.
Hey, I've given Cosgrove all the credit in the world this season! Excuse me if I was getting tired of the stale offense and losing prior to this season...........
Apphole
December 3rd, 2011, 05:31 PM
Well if Morre was outcoached by Cosgrove then that would be a first according to Maine Jeff.
JM doesnt call the plays. Nor does he create unprecedented strife in the O-line. I'm not sure how much can be directly attributed to him, but his staff is piss poor and needs to go. I'm sick of it. This school has outgrown it's Mayberry coaching staff. If it doesn't fly in the freakin' FCS playoffs, it's not gonna cut it in varsity.
FCS_pwns_FBS
December 3rd, 2011, 05:31 PM
Am I reading this right? 3 yards rushing? Three?
App. State not only needs an OC, they've got to have a running back.
Apphole
December 3rd, 2011, 05:33 PM
Well I wouldn't start the get rid of Jerry threads just yet like 2004, but remember what happened in 2005 after all that started.........
JM wasn't 72 years old in 2005. I'm not saying fire the guy ASAP, but the status quo in the football department needs to change, or we will be a really bad team as the years go by.
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 05:35 PM
Am I reading this right? 3 yards rushing? Three?
App. State not only needs an OC, they've got to have a running back.
I would rest it more on the o-line.....not to say the RBs aren't attacking the LOS north and south like they should. The push and holes just are not there.
Apphole
December 3rd, 2011, 05:35 PM
Am I reading this right? 3 yards rushing? Three?
App. State not only needs an OC, they've got to have a running back.
It's the O-line, or lack there of. How the **** does Bob McLain have a job right now?
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 05:36 PM
JM wasn't 72 years old in 2005. I'm not saying fire the guy ASAP, but the status quo in the football department needs to change, or we will be a really bad team as the years go by.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Apphole again.
Blueandwhitefightfight
December 3rd, 2011, 05:37 PM
JM wasn't 72 years old in 2005. I'm not saying fire the guy ASAP, but the status quo in the football department needs to change, or we will be a really bad team as the years go by.
I think you guys should relax. You lost some key guys from last year and still put together a really good season. You are the ONLY team that has managed to slow us down this year. Not even Bama could pull that off. You have nothing to be ashamed of. Everyone has an off day.
Mountaineer#96
December 3rd, 2011, 05:39 PM
I think you guys should relax. You lost some key guys from last year and still put together a really good season. You are the ONLY team that has managed to slow us down this year. Not even Bama could pull that off. You have nothing to be ashamed of. Everyone has an off day.
You maybe right, but I think most die hard ASU fans can read the writing on the wall at this point. To not make changes now would hurt us worse later.
Apphole
December 3rd, 2011, 05:42 PM
I think you guys should relax. You lost some key guys from last year and still put together a really good season. You are the ONLY team that has managed to slow us down this year. Not even Bama could pull that off. You have nothing to be ashamed of. Everyone has an off day.
But why did it have to be the playoffs!!?!?xbawlingx
proasu89
December 3rd, 2011, 06:00 PM
I can believe I'm saying this, but it's time to respectfully usher Moore into retirement. We are an FBS ready program, but we still have the "good ol' boys" at the helm. Everything that happened today came down to terrible coaching. We had better athletes at every position and we were coached into the off season.
Bull$#!t. We were outcoached but to say we had the better athletes at every position is laughable. We got hit in the mouth today and didn' have the nads to hit back! Was it the coaches who left 3 receivers wide open for td's and missed 5 tackles for a 40 yard td run?
cbarrier90
December 3rd, 2011, 06:03 PM
Am I reading this right? 3 yards rushing? Three?
App. State not only needs an OC, they've got to have a running back.
If GSU fans can see it, and ASU fans have been seeing it for the last three years, why hasn't it changed? xbangx
blukeys
December 3rd, 2011, 06:07 PM
Hey, I've given Cosgrove all the credit in the world this season! Excuse me if I was getting tired of the stale offense and losing prior to this season...........
Lighten up JM I was just pulling the leg of the App fans who want to blame Moore instead of giving credit to Maine. Sometines being facetious gets lost on people. Contratulations to ccred94, yourself, and many other Maine fans who have stuck with your team thru these years. I never thought Cosgrove was a bad coach so I am not shocked.
Bearwitness
December 3rd, 2011, 06:18 PM
Sounds like the almost-Canadian team that will be in Boone Saturday may be unstoppable. Guess we do not have much of a chance. Should we maybe play the game anyway? Guess we are contracturally liable. Just hope we do not lose by too much.
xthumbsupx
Block-A
December 3rd, 2011, 06:35 PM
Congratulations Maine. Your team played excellent today from start to finish.
Good luck the rest of the way.
Horseshoe App
December 3rd, 2011, 07:04 PM
Man, ASU needs to watch the way UNI is playing the spread offense against Wofford on ESPN3. That is how we played it when we were successful. We have lost focus of what the spread is suppose to be. We have to take a tough look in the mirror and get things fixed.
asknoquarter21
December 3rd, 2011, 07:11 PM
I have no problems with Jerry Moore at all. I think if he doesn't make a change with some of his assistant coaches then he could be hurting himself after next season.
We have scored points offensively this season two ways, either we get down early and have to be aggressive to catchup or we were just better athletically and the players made plays. What I have a problem with is we have lacked the ability to get the players in position to make plays.
It seems we call a play and stick with it before we know what is going to be available. You can't do that in a spread offense. Especially not running the ball. I don't think we have a good offensive line, but they look worse when we consistently ask them to do things we know they can't do.
This team will be fine going forward, but a change needs to be made. The spread offense we run isn't very complicated, but we are making it a lot harder than it should be. The whole idea is to get the ball in the hands of the playmakers in ways they can take advantage of mismatches. We haven't done that in a long time.
It amazes me how we could be so bad with a pair of dynamic backs like Miller(he still is on the team) and Cadet, and a great WR like Quick. That in itself should cost someone their job.
ASU_Fanatic
December 3rd, 2011, 07:22 PM
I wasn't at the game today, I was at a state championship football game which my school lost a heart breaker in so not a good day for me. We were the worst on offense this year I have ever seen since I really started getting into App St football. I do agree some type of change needs to be made, I don't think it's JM but we're not near the team we used to be.
T-Dog
December 3rd, 2011, 07:34 PM
Wasn't meant to be today. **** happens.
polsongrizz
December 3rd, 2011, 07:46 PM
xthumbsupxxlmaox
ninerID
December 3rd, 2011, 07:56 PM
was the secret CUSA invite given out at halftime?
AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 08:07 PM
I wasn't at the game today, I was at a state championship football game which my school lost a heart breaker in so not a good day for me. We were the worst on offense this year I have ever seen since I really started getting into App St football. I do agree some type of change needs to be made, I don't think it's JM but we're not near the team we used to be.
You're right. We're not the team we used to be. We used to lose to Western from time to time.
No one likes to lose, but I think it's time that our entitled fanbase got a reality check. No team always wins, and if this season was an abject failure, I'd hate to see you guys when we inevitably have a LEGITIMATELY BAD season.
49RFootballNow
December 3rd, 2011, 08:44 PM
Not surprised per se that App lost, but the score is a bit of a surprise.
AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 08:49 PM
Not surprised per se that App lost, but the score is a bit of a surprise.
That's interesting.
ASU_Fanatic
December 3rd, 2011, 09:00 PM
You're right. We're not the team we used to be. We used to lose to Western from time to time.
No one likes to lose, but I think it's time that our entitled fanbase got a reality check. No team always wins, and if this season was an abject failure, I'd hate to see you guys when we inevitably have a LEGITIMATELY BAD season.Well, again, I'm only 15 years old and I've been going to games my whole life but I REALLY started getting into it when I was about 8 or 9 years old, 2005 was the first year where I really started paying attention to it.
AppChicago
December 3rd, 2011, 09:05 PM
Well, again, I'm only 15 years old and I've been going to games my whole life but I REALLY started getting into it when I was about 8 or 9 years old, 2005 was the first year where I really started paying attention to it.
I'm not going to take shots at you for being wet behind the ears. We were all there once. I'm glad you're a fan. Good for you. But if you want to really be a fan, learn to stick with a team through the lean times, because a bandwagon is a pretty lame place to spend your days.
tractorapp
December 3rd, 2011, 09:07 PM
I can believe I'm saying this, but it's time to respectfully usher Moore into retirement. We are an FBS ready program, but we still have the "good ol' boys" at the helm. Everything that happened today came down to terrible coaching. We had better athletes at every position and we were coached into the off season.
I could not agree more. If Coach Moore stays, we have to locate his succesor and make him offensive co-ordinator and the Head Coach in waiting and allow him to start assembling the type coaching staff we need to take us to the next level. That today my friends was painful to watch. We looked lost, no fire on the sidelines... simply pitiful.
GlassOnion
December 3rd, 2011, 09:12 PM
Congrats to Maine. Outcoached, outplayed, not much else to say there. Have a safe trip home, and good luck!
Tubby Raymond
December 3rd, 2011, 09:38 PM
Hey, I've given Cosgrove all the credit in the world this season! Excuse me if I was getting tired of the stale offense and losing prior to this season...........
Not much of a front runner are you. Probably broke both ankles jumping off that bandwagon in years past. What a hypocrite
Tubby Raymond
December 3rd, 2011, 09:38 PM
Maine took on a different persona on their last offensive possession........now the whole team seems out of sorts a bit.......way too much time left to let down now!
Here you are getting ready to jump again
ASU_Fanatic
December 3rd, 2011, 10:10 PM
I'm not going to take shots at you for being wet behind the ears. We were all there once. I'm glad you're a fan. Good for you. But if you want to really be a fan, learn to stick with a team through the lean times, because a bandwagon is a pretty lame place to spend your days.Hey, do you know how many of my friends are fans of teams like Alabama and Florida?! I could easily be like that but my dad went to App and I've grown up and Boone and I love that team! I could easily just bandwagon a top tier team but I stick with a team lower on the food chain, I should get a little respect for that.
SpeedkingATL
December 3rd, 2011, 10:59 PM
Congrats to Maine. Hopefully App will fix some of the glaring issues of this year and be more playoff competitive next year. Still proud of the Apps and hope they grow a little from this one.
kdinva
December 3rd, 2011, 11:00 PM
Congrats to Maine. Outcoached, outplayed, not much else to say there. Have a safe trip home, and good luck!
hard to believe Richmond gave Maine a much better game, kicking the Bears' butts for 50 minutes.
CenMEBlackBearFan
December 3rd, 2011, 11:01 PM
Maine played great today,only weakness is the PAT's.
App fans were great. Had a blast tailgating with everyone in the stadium lot You guys were gracious in defeat. Only thing that would have been better was if ODU pulled the upset, don't see us making GSU trip.
Many more Maine fans in the stands than I would have thought.
Oh well, route 421 to Charlotte , had a fantastic time!!!
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ASUG8
December 3rd, 2011, 11:30 PM
Maine played great today,only weakness is the PAT's.
App fans were great. Had a blast tailgating with everyone in the stadium lot You guys were gracious in defeat. Only thing that would have been better was if ODU pulled the upset, don't see us making GSU trip.
Many more Maine fans in the stands than I would have thought.
Oh well, route 421 to Charlotte , had a fantastic time!!!
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Glad you were treated well and had a good time. Hope it's as good in Statesboro next week, and good luck.
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 11:31 PM
Not much of a front runner are you. Probably broke both ankles jumping off that bandwagon in years past. What a hypocrite
*YAWN*
mainejeff
December 3rd, 2011, 11:32 PM
Here you are getting ready to jump again
*YAWN* x 2
Wake me up when Delaware fans stop becoming a bunch of whiners........you guys hide it well over on gohens.net though. ;)
asucrutch23
December 3rd, 2011, 11:36 PM
Maine played great today,only weakness is the PAT's.
App fans were great. Had a blast tailgating with everyone in the stadium lot You guys were gracious in defeat. Only thing that would have been better was if ODU pulled the upset, don't see us making GSU trip.
Many more Maine fans in the stands than I would have thought.
Oh well, route 421 to Charlotte , had a fantastic time!!!
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Nice meeting you and your son at spot #76, thanks for stopping by! Congrats on the win, you guys sure outplayed us in pretty much every phase of the game. Good luck next week!
Appattk
December 4th, 2011, 12:58 AM
Maine played great today,only weakness is the PAT's.
App fans were great. Had a blast tailgating with everyone in the stadium lot You guys were gracious in defeat. Only thing that would have been better was if ODU pulled the upset, don't see us making GSU trip.
Many more Maine fans in the stands than I would have thought.
Oh well, route 421 to Charlotte , had a fantastic time!!!
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Yikes, hope you meant 321..... ;)
soweagle
December 4th, 2011, 01:22 AM
You maybe right, but I think most die hard ASU fans can read the writing on the wall at this point. To not make changes now would hurt us worse later.
We GSU fans were laughed at and ridiculed for our multiple changes (even by ASU's biggest homer sports writer-Colson) but it has been a painful but well worth it trip, so far. We still aren't where we were but we seem to be moving in that direction.
james_lawfirm
December 4th, 2011, 07:05 AM
Congrats. Maine played a great game. Wish we had. Good luck against GaSo.
Tubby Raymond
December 4th, 2011, 07:12 AM
*YAWN*Good thing the AD didn't do what you would have had him do years ago:
FIRE COSGROVE.
Now you're all over being happy for your team. Seem contradictory to anyone else but me............................................xcra zyx
Tubby Raymond
December 4th, 2011, 07:13 AM
*YAWN* x 2
Wake me up when Delaware fans stop becoming a bunch of whiners........you guys hide it well over on gohens.net though. ;)You've been whining about Firing Cosgrove for almost a decade now right tree-lover
Smitty
December 4th, 2011, 08:15 AM
Man you would think that App went 3-9 listening to some of their complaints on their forum....
cbarrier90
December 4th, 2011, 09:43 AM
Man you would think that App went 3-9 listening to some of their complaints on their forum....
You would think that App went 3-9 watching the game yesterday.
As far as a possible "program re-evaluation," Appalachian State football used to keep its foot on the gas and beat teams by scores of 79-35 week in and week out. Ever since the loss of a true offensive coordinator in Scott Satterfield, the offensive philosophy is to play not to lose, rather than hit teams in the mouth and put the game out of reach in the first half.
A "rebuilding" excuse would have been acceptable had this team not beaten GSU. This team had a national championship caliber defense with offensive playcalling that did its best at times to make ASU's biggest weapons complete non-factors.
Congratulations to Maine, they were the better team yesterday, but on the ASU front, there's no excuse for getting blown out at home to end the season for a second straight year. Something HAS to change.
SideLine Shooter
December 4th, 2011, 09:48 AM
Wasn't meant to be today. **** happens.
That just about covers it right there. Congrats to the Black Bears, and kick some bird butt next week.
SideLine Shooter
December 4th, 2011, 09:50 AM
Man you would think that App went 3-9 listening to some of their complaints on their forum....
I'll bet you would love to go 3-9.
caribbeanhen
December 4th, 2011, 09:51 AM
Two years in a row I am disgusted with our coaching and playcalling in the playoffs
it's the guy in your avatar that made you guys great, he's long gone now and so is ____________________ fill in the blank
boonegoon
December 4th, 2011, 09:57 AM
it's the guy in your avatar that made you guys great, he's long gone now and so is ____________________ fill in the blank
I don't think so. We won our first championship when he was still in high school.
AppChicago
December 4th, 2011, 11:07 AM
I don't think so. We won our first championship when he was still in high school.
This. Armanti may have been a HUGE factor, but he wasn't what made us great. We were great before him, amazing with him, and good without him. I think now we're mostly just complacent. Hubris is always dangerous.
ASU_Fanatic
December 4th, 2011, 11:53 AM
I can barely read the MMB right now, we just had a solid 8-4 season and they are calling for Moore's head. If Western ever went 8-4 they would think they had just went to the super bowl!!!!
mainejeff
December 4th, 2011, 11:55 AM
Good thing the AD didn't do what you would have had him do years ago:
FIRE COSGROVE.
Now you're all over being happy for your team. Seem contradictory to anyone else but me............................................xcra zyx
*YAWN*
Oh yeah......tell your Blue Hen brethren to stop asking for Keeler's head no matter how much you lose......deal?
mainejeff
December 4th, 2011, 11:56 AM
You've been whining about Firing Cosgrove for almost a decade now right tree-lover
Yup........18 seasons of sub-.500 ball before this season was enough for me, chemical plant lover.
*YAWN* x 2
Smitty
December 4th, 2011, 11:57 AM
I'll bet you would love to go 3-9.
Awww it will be okay... You always have the ACC next year!
ASU_Fanatic
December 4th, 2011, 12:02 PM
Awww it will be okay... You always have the ACC next year!
I wouldn't be talking we still will beat you guys by a good 40+ next year
Smitty
December 4th, 2011, 12:07 PM
I wouldn't be talking we still will beat you guys by a good 40+ next year
Meh that's fine. By the sounds of it you guys may be mediocre at best in the SoCon next year.
asumike83
December 4th, 2011, 12:15 PM
First off, congratulations to Maine. They had a good game plan, were smothering defensively and took care of the ball on offense. ASU had a couple of major lapses on defense and the Black Bears turned them into huge, back-breaking scoring plays that put the game away. They were the more prepared team and took the fight to us from the first snap. Good game and best of luck the rest of the way.
As for ASU, I never have and still am not among the "Fire Jerry" group of App folks. However, if some changes are not made this offseason then he will get some deserving criticism. The whole "play-calling by committee" routine is a joke, it does a serious disservice to the good athletes we have. We need a dedicated offensive coordinator who calls all the plays each week and establishes an offensive identity for the team. If it means opening up the checkbook and/or cutting some dead weight on the coaching staff (looking at you, Chris Moore), then so be it. We have too much talent to be as predictable and passive on offense as we were this season. We have the returning talent to be great next season but if we come back with the exact same staff and the exact same approach, I will expect the exact same results.
I honestly do not think we need many changes on defense, it should be a strength for us going forward. They kept us in the game until halftime and then ran out of gas. We have to improve on offense and I truly hope this is addressed before we kick off 2012. Considering all that this team went through in the course of the year, it was not a terrible season by any stretch. Best of luck to everyone else, time for the Mountaineers to get back to work!
ASU_Fanatic
December 4th, 2011, 12:15 PM
Meh that's fine. By the sounds of it you guys may be mediocre at best in the SoCon next year.We'll have another 8-3 or 9-2 season just because our defense will be so good....really though, it looks like we'll be staying in the SoCon for years to come and hopefully you guys can get good again to make the rivalry fun! Because when both teams are good it certainly is one of the most underrated rivalries in sports.
Squealofthepig
December 4th, 2011, 12:16 PM
I can barely read the MMB right now, we just had a solid 8-4 season and they are calling for Moore's head. If Western ever went 8-4 they would think they had just went to the super bowl!!!!
I agree that the call for his head is ridiculous - it's like when Nebraska fired the guy behind Tom Osbourne when he dared to post a two-loss season. Most teams can only dream of having such steady, consistent success, and there will always be a few "down" years for any coach - call it the nature of football, when, some seasons, things just don't go your way.
asumike83
December 4th, 2011, 12:17 PM
Meh that's fine. By the sounds of it you guys may be mediocre at best in the SoCon next year.
I don't think so. We should be in the top 3 again, with the potential to be even better if our coaching staff can improve as needed.
I'll take 8-4 in a rebuilding year.
Smitty
December 4th, 2011, 12:18 PM
I can barely read the MMB right now, we just had a solid 8-4 season and they are calling for Moore's head. If Western ever went 8-4 they would think they had just went to the super bowl!!!!
You kidding? I would think it was the super bowl if we finished 6-6. Firing Jerry Moore would be a bad idea, however I would start to wonder who is going to take the helm when he finally does retire...
Smitty
December 4th, 2011, 12:23 PM
I don't think so. We should be in the top 3 again, with the potential to be even better if our coaching staff can improve as needed.
I'll take 8-4 in a rebuilding year.
Losing 22 seniors will hurt but App seems to find ways.
cbarrier90
December 4th, 2011, 12:48 PM
Losing 22 seniors will hurt but App seems to find ways.
22 seniors on the roster, but a majority of those are either strictly special teamers or rotational guys.
On defense, the only significant losses (and they are significant) are Wylie and Aiken at DT. Priority #1 in recruiting should be finding a DT that can come in and contribute immediately. I think the staff goes with the JuCo route here.
On offense, the major loss is Brian Quick at WR, who won't be replaced. Elsewhere, Cadet and Baker-Boney at RB: A guy who I don't believe ever reached his full potential at ASU, and an under-sized scat back who could never quite fully reach the top of the depth chart respectively. The only other losses come on the O-line with the departure of Ruff, Frye, and Holt, but with a year of "trial by fire" for a relatively inexperienced unit and perhaps a change in coaching philosophy, I expect that unit, and the team as a whole, to be better next season.
SideLine Shooter
December 4th, 2011, 01:24 PM
Meh that's fine. By the sounds of it you guys may be mediocre at best in the SoCon next year.
We were this year.
Apphole
December 4th, 2011, 01:39 PM
Bob McClain and Chris Moore need to go
Bearwitness
December 4th, 2011, 02:16 PM
While I can sympathize with the frustration many of the App fans are feeling today, I think some of their anger is misdirected in the wrong direction. It's too easy to blame the loss on the coaching staff and not hold the players themselves accountable for what happened yesterday. One of your players, I thought summed it rather nicely when he said, "I guess they just wanted it more than we did". That should be considered unacceptable, not the play calling or game plan.
Now granted, that was the first time I had seen the Mountaineers play, but I didn't think they brought a lot of intensity to the game. It was as if they thought they could just show up and their talent would take over. I think they made the mistake of underestimating their opponent and paid the price for it.
I was looking forward to watching Brian Quick and thought he was a big disappointment. I know one game is not a good barometer, but he didn't show a whole lot of heart out there when the going got tough. He has the talent to be a game changer. I remember thinking during the game that he reminded me of a young Plaxico Burress and when he flipped the ball getting the unsportsmanlike penalty, it just reinforced it.
Jerry Moore said the same thing postgame that other coaches have said about this Maine team. They don't have the best athletes on the field, but they play "as a team" better than anyone else they've played. That was the difference yesterday and it is a credit to the upperclass leadership on the Black Bears.
This is basically the same Maine team that went 4-7 last year, underachieving in what most thought was going to be a CAA contending team. The seniors took it upon themselves to make sure this year's team did not suffer the same fate. The Mountaineers need some of the same type of leadership going forward to next year. Their talent will only take them so far.
asumike83
December 4th, 2011, 02:41 PM
While I can sympathize with the frustration many of the App fans are feeling today, I think some of their anger is misdirected in the wrong direction. It's too easy to blame the loss on the coaching staff and not hold the players themselves accountable for what happened yesterday. One of your players, I thought summed it rather nicely when he said, "I guess they just wanted it more than we did". That should be considered unacceptable, not the play calling or game plan.
Now granted, that was the first time I had seen the Mountaineers play, but I didn't think they brought a lot of intensity to the game. It was as if they thought they could just show up and their talent would take over. I think they made the mistake of underestimating their opponent and paid the price for it.
I was looking forward to watching Brian Quick and thought he was a big disappointment. I know one game is not a good barometer, but he didn't show a whole lot of heart out there when the going got tough. He has the talent to be a game changer. I remember thinking during the game that he reminded me of a young Plaxico Burress and when he flipped the ball getting the unsportsmanlike penalty, it just reinforced it.
Jerry Moore said the same thing postgame that other coaches have said about this Maine team. They don't have the best athletes on the field, but they play "as a team" better than anyone else they've played. That was the difference yesterday and it is a credit to the upperclass leadership on the Black Bears.
This is basically the same Maine team that went 4-7 last year, underachieving in what most thought was going to be a CAA contending team. The seniors took it upon themselves to make sure this year's team did not suffer the same fate. The Mountaineers need some of the same type of leadership going forward to next year. Their talent will only take them so far.
First you beat us, then you come on here and make all these valid points? Not cool.
My only counterpoint would be that getting the team to bring that intensity and not be complacent falls, at least in part, on the coaching staff. You can only coach that so much and the players have to bring it themselves, but it is still a reflection on how they were prepared.
cbarrier90
December 4th, 2011, 02:48 PM
While I can sympathize with the frustration many of the App fans are feeling today, I think some of their anger is misdirected in the wrong direction. It's too easy to blame the loss on the coaching staff and not hold the players themselves accountable for what happened yesterday. One of your players, I thought summed it rather nicely when he said, "I guess they just wanted it more than we did". That should be considered unacceptable, not the play calling or game plan.
Now granted, that was the first time I had seen the Mountaineers play, but I didn't think they brought a lot of intensity to the game. It was as if they thought they could just show up and their talent would take over. I think they made the mistake of underestimating their opponent and paid the price for it.
I was looking forward to watching Brian Quick and thought he was a big disappointment. I know one game is not a good barometer, but he didn't show a whole lot of heart out there when the going got tough. He has the talent to be a game changer.
While I agree, it's easy to blame the coaching staff and not hold the players accountable for their lack of intensity, it was clear from the outset that everyone was completely unprepared. Who's responsible for getting the players prepared?
Brian Quick, whose specialty is being able to stretch the field with deep routes, was targeted on one of those routes ONCE all game. He caught the ball, but ended up catching it out of bounds. Who's responsible for calling plays to get Brian Quick involved and getting rid of the dink-and-dunk screens and runs when they aren't working?
Again, I agree that it's easy to not hold the players accountable, but this was the same limited playcalling that either cost App or nearly cost App in many games this season. Credit to Maine, but yesterday reinforced everything App fans already knew about this team, hence the frustration.
Agree on the leadership front. This is a young team that will grow together hopefully through games like this.
UMaineD
December 4th, 2011, 10:22 PM
Just got back home from NC. I have to say that the fans @ App State were the nicest group of fans in any game I have attended over the last couple of years. Thanks for making us feel welcome.
Skjellyfetti
December 4th, 2011, 11:52 PM
Just got back home from NC. I have to say that the fans @ App State were the nicest group of fans in any game I have attended over the last couple of years. Thanks for making us feel welcome.
Glad you enjoyed your trip. And, I pray that the committee never sends Maine back to Boone. Y'all make our lives hell every time you come. :(
WH49er
December 5th, 2011, 09:35 AM
App. State and the Tarheels lost on Saturday. It is amazing that Boone didn't collapse in on itself.
StorminASU
December 5th, 2011, 09:39 AM
App. State and the Tarheels lost on Saturday. It is amazing that Boone didn't collapse in on itself.
Oh look the same old boring argument about UNC from UNCc fan. I was around a huge group in the student section Saturday that cheered when they heard UNC lost. We then went back to cheering on our football team even though it got brutal.
It must really butt hurt you to not have anything to be proud of.
Apphole
December 5th, 2011, 10:06 AM
App. State and the Tarheels lost on Saturday. It is amazing that Boone didn't collapse in on itself.
Funny story, I invited my buddy up from Charlotte for the game (a UNCc alum) but he had plans to watch UNC play earlier in the day and couldn't make it. xlolx
The only place I have seen people with UNC clothes jeered harder than KBS was at NCSU.
I love it when Concord fans try to say that we have too many Tar Holes up here. What a joke! Out of their multitude of graduates, maybe 5,000 in this world even half way keep up with UNCc sports. App might have a few Tar Holes in their midst, but I'd venture to say there are far more Cee grads that wear baby blue than hunter green. Hell they even have the same name. Call me when you get over 10k to any sporting event that community college has, ever.
You are a product of population density. You school offers nothing but dime-a-dozen diplomas to the single, working mothers of Charlotte. Get a ****ing clue and learn your place. If you were a real college, there would probably be a bar or two within walking distance. Your school has no soul, and therefore, will never be anything more than an afterthought to 99% of the graduates.
SpeedkingATL
December 5th, 2011, 10:07 AM
This App team was flawed and over rated from the beginning. They played one GREAT game against GSU but came out flat many times with Furman, Elon and Maine all examples. Maine dominated our o-line completely which happened a lot this year and I think they had the best secondary App played this year. It was good to make the playoffs this year with all the issues App had and congrats to Maine for playing an inspired game. Should be an interesting game in Statesboro.
WH49er
December 5th, 2011, 12:17 PM
It must really butt hurt you to not have anything to be proud of.
Yes, Charlotte being 2 games away from a national title in Men's Soccer is nothing to be proud of.
WH49er
December 5th, 2011, 12:25 PM
You are a product of population density. You school offers nothing but dime-a-dozen diplomas to the single, working mothers of Charlotte. Get a ****ing clue and learn your place. If you were a real college, there would probably be a bar or two within walking distance. Your school has no soul, and therefore, will never be anything more than an afterthought to 99% of the graduates.
Funny coming from a school who churns out a majority of liberal arts degrees. The world needs more psychology, dance studies, and recreation and park management majors. App. State does a great job of prepping their students to join the OWS crowd.
Apphole
December 5th, 2011, 12:27 PM
Yes, Charlotte being 2 games away from a national title in Men's Soccer is nothing to be proud of.
Cool story bro. Hows that UNCC shuffle board team doing? World champs right?
WH49er
December 5th, 2011, 12:42 PM
Cool story bro. Hows that UNCC shuffle board team doing? World champs right?
Soccer team plays Friday at 6 on ESPNU.
Keep trying, you're getting there. Now go get your sippy cup and lay down on your mat.
StorminASU
December 5th, 2011, 12:57 PM
Yes, Charlotte being 2 games away from a national title in Men's Soccer is nothing to be proud of.
Well it is soccer so I agree with you completely. You should really lighten up on your own school though.
AshevilleApp2
December 5th, 2011, 12:59 PM
Yes, Charlotte being 2 games away from a national title in Men's Soccer is nothing to be proud of.
How do you do in sports?
SideLine Shooter
December 5th, 2011, 01:25 PM
Link to ASU - Maine Game Photos.
http://sidelineshooter.smugmug.com/Sports/ASU-2011-Season/ASU-vs-Maine/20436915_S6MHbH#1617562980_86k3txr
SoCon48
December 5th, 2011, 02:03 PM
22 seniors on the roster, but a majority of those are either strictly special teamers or rotational guys.
On defense, the only significant losses (and they are significant) are Wylie and Aiken at DT. Priority #1 in recruiting should be finding a DT that can come in and contribute immediately. I think the staff goes with the JuCo route here.
On offense, the major loss is Brian Quick at WR, who won't be replaced. Elsewhere, Cadet and Baker-Boney at RB: A guy who I don't believe ever reached his full potential at ASU, and an under-sized scat back who could never quite fully reach the top of the depth chart respectively. The only other losses come on the O-line with the departure of Ruff, Frye, and Holt, but with a year of "trial by fire" for a relatively inexperienced unit and perhaps a change in coaching philosophy, I expect that unit, and the team as a whole, to be better next season.
The only problem with the JuCo route is that there just aren't many Juco's left.
Saint3333
December 5th, 2011, 02:49 PM
Congrats to Maine they were the better TEAM, outplayed and outcoached ASU.
Funny now that ASU is back to just be another playoff team our fans have a nice reputation. I hope the trip was safe on the way back.
To the other ASU fans on the thread, stop feeding the troll.
Mountaineer#96
December 5th, 2011, 04:52 PM
Bob McClain and Chris Moore need to go
I agree with the above would like to throw John Holt under the bus.....he is the so called Special Teams coordinator.....they were anything but "special" this year. These young coordinators are more like friends to the players and have no business being coaches when they are seen partying with them on the weekends.
AppMan
December 6th, 2011, 06:55 AM
Unimaginative offensive gameplans, lack of discipline, personal foul and unsportsman like penalties, poor special teams play, lack of emotion in the players, frustrated and angey fans leaving early and money disappearing from Yosef. Looks eerily similar to the years leading up to 2004. How ironic is it the start of the decline was highlighted by a loss to Maine in the playoffs.
SoCon48
December 6th, 2011, 08:42 AM
Unimaginative offensive gameplans, lack of discipline, personal foul and unsportsman like penalties, poor special teams play, lack of emotion in the players, frustrated and angey fans leaving early and money disappearing from Yosef. Looks eerily similar to the years leading up to 2004. How ironic is it the start of the decline was highlighted by a loss to Maine in the playoffs.
The sky is falling.
Apphole
December 6th, 2011, 09:01 AM
Unimaginative offensive gameplans, lack of discipline, personal foul and unsportsman like penalties, poor special teams play, lack of emotion in the players, frustrated and angey fans leaving early and money disappearing from Yosef. Looks eerily similar to the years leading up to 2004. How ironic is it the start of the decline was highlighted by a loss to Maine in the playoffs.
Elaborate please. Is this just a generic statement?
ASU_Fanatic
December 6th, 2011, 03:19 PM
Soccer team plays Friday at 6 on ESPNU.
Keep trying, you're getting there. Now go get your sippy cup and lay down on your mat.I'll be watching for sure, this has been an awesome story a mid-major making it this far in soccer. I don't understand some of the hate App fans have for Charlotte. I wish them the best of luck in football except for when they play ASU.
WH49er
December 6th, 2011, 04:44 PM
I'll be watching for sure, this has been an awesome story a mid-major making it this far in soccer. I don't understand some of the hate App fans have for Charlotte. I wish them the best of luck in football except for when they play ASU.
Most 49er fans feel the same about App. State. despite the way we act on this board sometimes. It's just too easy getting under certain Mountaineer's skins :D
As far as game day experience, App. State is far better than every NC FBS school. I really hope our athletic department is using an idea or two from you guys.
That being said, beat Minnesota tonight and get another BCS scalp. Beat Davidson too, that fanbase is the smuggest bunch of d-bags you'll ever come across.
ASU_Fanatic
December 6th, 2011, 05:06 PM
Most 49er fans feel the same about App. State. despite the way we act on this board sometimes. It's just too easy getting under certain Mountaineer's skins :D
As far as game day experience, App. State is far better than every NC FBS school. I really hope our athletic department is using an idea or two from you guys.
That being said, beat Minnesota tonight and get another BCS scalp. Beat Davidson too, that fanbase is the smuggest bunch of d-bags you'll ever come across.
Thanks for the complements but I wouldn't go THAT far. I honestly think we're third behind NC State and East Carolina, just my opinion. You also to have to remember we only have room for half of what UNC, NCSU, and ECU can have at a game (we can max out at 31k, they all max out around 60k) so we're a bit at a disadvantage. AND THAT DANG TRACK, the atmosphere isn't quite as good because you're not right on the field like you are at most places.
AppStsGr8
December 6th, 2011, 07:49 PM
Elaborate please. Is this just a generic statement?
Yosef is within 80 members of reaching the 3500 mark and has brought in more money in 2011 than in previous years. Yes, I do know this to be fact.
49RFootballNow
December 6th, 2011, 07:51 PM
App. State is far better than every NC FBS school.
I think some purple clad freaks in the eastern half of this state might vigorously disagree with this assessment. That said, App is definately in the top 2 for gameday experience in the state, unless you really, really, REALLY like wine and imported cheese.
asumike83
December 6th, 2011, 09:00 PM
I think some purple clad freaks in the eastern half of this state might vigorously disagree with this assessment. That said, App is definately in the top 2 for gameday experience in the state, unless you really, really, REALLY like wine and imported cheese.
Ha! Reps for you.
I agree though, the ECU gameday experience is great. My dad is an ECU grad and I went to a good number of games there growing up. Really impressive what they have done with Dowdy Ficklen, excellent stadium.
asumike83
December 6th, 2011, 09:01 PM
Yosef is within 80 members of reaching the 3500 mark and has brought in more money in 2011 than in previous years. Yes, I do know this to be fact.
Make that 79 members in about 4 weeks!
WH49er
December 6th, 2011, 10:04 PM
I think some purple clad freaks in the eastern half of this state might vigorously disagree with this assessment. That said, App is definately in the top 2 for gameday experience in the state, unless you really, really, REALLY like wine and imported cheese.
The two reasons why App. is better than ECU for me....the drive to Greenville sucks no matter where you are coming from and there is nothing like the crisp mountain air on a fall day.
Went to a game in Boulder a few years ago, definitely number one on my list so far.
T-Dog
December 6th, 2011, 10:11 PM
I think some purple clad freaks in the eastern half of this state might vigorously disagree with this assessment. That said, App is definately in the top 2 for gameday experience in the state, unless you really, really, REALLY like wine and imported cheese.
ECU is automatically DQed because of the unspeakable things they do to perfectly good BBQ.
ECU and NCSU are basically the same when it comes to environment. Nothing terribly special about either, although their students try to consume their body weight in cheap beer every week.
Accelerati Incredibilus
December 7th, 2011, 12:53 AM
Elaborate please. Is this just a generic statement?
I have a feeling is was a generic statement, but if what I heard coming from fans hitting the exits early materalizes what he said will take place. The natives were not happy and some long time donors I know personally indicated they would not continue pouring the same amount of money into that type of product. The anger was not directed at the players, but the ears of the coaching staff had to be on fire.
Accelerati Incredibilus
December 7th, 2011, 12:56 AM
Yosef is within 80 members of reaching the 3500 mark and has brought in more money in 2011 than in previous years. Yes, I do know this to be fact.
That may be true for 2011, we'll just have to see what happens in 2012. If changes are made in the football staff my guess is the numbers hold steady. If not ??????????????????????
AppStsGr8
December 7th, 2011, 08:05 AM
That may be true for 2011, we'll just have to see what happens in 2012. If changes are made in the football staff my guess is the numbers hold steady. If not ??????????????????????
My guess is that most longtime donors understand ups and downs in any program. I'd also be willing to bet that football isn't the only reason many folks donate to Yosef, though football certainly is the money sport. Plenty of the longtime, higher level donors make multi-year pledges. I'm sure some of the bandwagon folks will flee. I'll be calling folks in February about Yosef donations. If you get a call, please say "yes" to Yosef. There are many, many more athletes supported by Yosef than just those on the football team.
appfan2008
December 7th, 2011, 09:57 AM
I just arrived back after a multi day hiatus from this site and i am still so disapointed in everything... fans, players, coaches, admin... everything...
eagle07
December 7th, 2011, 10:03 AM
I just arrived back after a multi day hiatus from this site and i am still so disapointed in everything... fans, players, coaches, admin... everything...
Welcome back friend,
what you missed:
-Same stuff on this thread for about 30 pages
-We didnt start a rumor of a supsenison, but we sure did propagate it to 20 pages in like 10hrs
AppMan
December 7th, 2011, 11:26 AM
My guess is that most longtime donors understand ups and downs in any program. I'd also be willing to bet that football isn't the only reason many folks donate to Yosef, though football certainly is the money sport. Plenty of the longtime, higher level donors make multi-year pledges. I'm sure some of the bandwagon folks will flee. I'll be calling folks in February about Yosef donations. If you get a call, please say "yes" to Yosef. There are many, many more athletes supported by Yosef than just those on the football team.
It was speculation on my part based on the conversations I had with some long standing donors following the game. Obviously Yosef dollars go for much more than football, but you are kidding yourself if you don't think it isn't responsible for 75% of the money raised. I've been a member since 1979 and one of those guys who makes multi year pledges, but times are tough and people are giving serious thought to their spending priorities. Also have to take into consideration ASU is in the middle of a $200 million fund raising campaign, of which $50 million is targeted for athletics, and the success or failure of the football program is a key ingredient to its success. Ken Peacock can not afford to let this football issue slow the progress. Good luck this spring with your efforts.
Steve81
December 7th, 2011, 09:50 PM
Congrats Maine, very nice win!
Tubby Raymond
December 9th, 2011, 04:39 AM
*YAWN*
Oh yeah......tell your Blue Hen brethren to stop asking for Keeler's head no matter how much you lose......deal?Nice try at a deflection. At least you've been consistent in your hating of Cosgrove, right up until now when he started to show success beyond your wildest dreams. Now all of a sudden he's a genius, RIGHT?
Tubby Raymond
December 9th, 2011, 04:42 AM
Yup........18 seasons of sub-.500 ball before this season was enough for me, chemical plant lover.
*YAWN* x 2Be a man and stay off the bandwagon now. But that's not inside you is it, being a man I mean
seantaylor
December 9th, 2011, 05:02 AM
Appy has been getting 2 holed in the playoffs at home regularly.
Mountaineer#96
December 9th, 2011, 12:30 PM
Appy has been getting 2 holed in the playoffs at home regularly.
At least when you guys come to our home we don't.....eh
mainejeff
December 9th, 2011, 03:55 PM
Nice try at a deflection. At least you've been consistent in your hating of Cosgrove, right up until now when he started to show success beyond your wildest dreams. Now all of a sudden he's a genius, RIGHT?
WTF do you want from me?.......I give credit where credit is due........and I'll call someone out if they are not doing the job.......duh!
mainejeff
December 9th, 2011, 03:56 PM
Be a man and stay off the bandwagon now. But that's not inside you is it, being a man I mean
WTF.......excuse me if I root for my team. Next time Delaware is in the playoffs, make sure that you OD.
asumike83
December 9th, 2011, 04:01 PM
Any way that we can kill this thread all together? Just seeing the title gets me a little misty-eyed xsmhx
Accelerati Incredibilus
December 11th, 2011, 07:45 AM
Appy has been getting 2 holed in the playoffs at home regularly.
3-3 since 2008. Hard to accept the idea ASU has become just another average playoff team. The thrill is gone.
Mountaineer#96
December 11th, 2011, 01:25 PM
bump.....find new assistant coaches now!
Apphole
December 12th, 2011, 10:39 AM
bump.....find new assistant coaches now!
I'll kidnap Chris Moore if you kidnap Bob McClain.
Mountaineer#96
December 12th, 2011, 04:44 PM
I'll kidnap Chris Moore if you kidnap Bob McClain.
I'm all for that, and I need someone to take out John Holt too...+1
Apphole
December 12th, 2011, 05:48 PM
I'm all for that, and I need someone to take out John Holt too...+1
I still kind of like Holt. He's assumed the Elliot role of screaming at and fighting the O-Line before games. We need to keep that intensity. Maybe move him to OL-assistant (after replacing McClain) and recruit a new special team's guy.
asknoquarter21
January 4th, 2012, 11:20 AM
Wonder what Scott Satterfield is thinking right now
I knew it all along!!!
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