Should Sam Houston State be the #1 overall seed?

[GSU Eagle]

I vote NO.

[Engineer86]

No

[No_Skill]

I believe a poll is in order.

[TheRevSFA]

No.

[BisonFan02]

No

[GSU_Alum08]

no

[TexasTerror]

No worse than No. 2 in my opinion... :)

[DOME]

YES

[Thundar]

No

[bjtheflamesfan]

Since someone called for it...here is the poll

[WileECoyote06]

#2. . .

[bjtheflamesfan]

Poll created

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?100996-Should-Sam-Houston-State-be-the-1-overall-seed

[TheRevSFA]

While undefeated, being from a 2nd tier conference and only having 2 wins against teams over .500 is not exactly showing you deserve the top spot over teams that might have losses, but have played much tougher schedules.

[19Duke97]

No.

[katstrapper]

There is like 5 threads on this one topic. How many threads do yall need to discuss? Do yall think the committee is reading this listening to your moaning and groaning about the only undefeated team in the country? The worst thing they could do is seed Sam Houston low.

[putter]

I vote no.

[Cleets]

The good news for Sam Houston is they'll get to show everybody just exactly how good they are (or aren't) on the field against the best of the FCS...

Points to keep in mind:
1) Sam Houston belongs among the top (period)
2) There are no gimmie games from here on out for anybody
3) in a few weeks we'll all know just how good the big talking teams really are


:D

[katstrapper]

The good news for Sam Houston is they'll get to show everybody just exactly how good they are (or aren't) on the field against the best of the FCS...

Points to keep in mind:
1) Sam Houston belongs among the top (period)
2) There are no gimmie games from here on out for anybody
3) in a few weeks we'll all know just how good the big talking teams really are


:D

And I cant wait.

[Ivytalk]

While undefeated, being from a 2nd tier conference and only having 2 wins against teams over .500 is not exactly showing you deserve the top spot over teams that might have losses, but have played much tougher schedules.

This.

[bjtheflamesfan]

Seriously people? with as many no votes, only one person can actually articulate a reason for why they feel that way?

[bisonnation]

They are a good team worth of a high ranking but the Southland Conference is a middle of the road conference. On paper it could be argued yes. My gut says no.

[BisonFan02]

Seriously people? with as many no votes, only one person can actually articulate a reason for why they feel that way?

Because NDSU and GSU are better?

1a) GSU
1B) NDSU
^coin flip
3) SHSU
4) Towson
5) Montana/UNI (probably Montana)

[Engineer86]

#2. . .

What school did you graduate from? "Yes or No?"

[GSU Eagle]

Just look at the Southland this year. 1 good team, 1 pretty good team and everyone else. Beating a bottom feeder New Mexico team says nothing. The Southland is at best the 5th best conference this year. I have nothing against SHSU. They deserve to be seeded in the top 5 but not 1 or 2.

[BisonBacker]

Absolulety NOT

[Tod]

Seriously people? with as many no votes, only one person can actually articulate a reason for why they feel that way?

No. Many people can, laziness wins out. xnodx

[BisonBacker]

Just look at the Southland this year. 1 good team, 1 pretty good team and everyone else. Beating a bottom feeder New Mexico team says nothing. The Southland is at best the 5th best conference this year. I have nothing against SHSU. They deserve to be seeded in the top 5 but not 1 or 2.


^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^

[polsongrizz]

no

[GSU Eagle]

The GPI has the Southland as the #6 conference.

[Engineer86]

How many times can you say it!

[GSU EAGLES]

Hell no. They would be 7-4 in the SoCon or CAA

[andy7171]

Great season for SHSU-Huntsville, but I have to give the real GSU the #1 seed.

[eaglesrback]

SAM does not have the resume.

[BisonBacker]

SOS is all that needs to be said about why SHSU will NOT get the #1 seed.

[bjtheflamesfan]

Because NDSU and GSU are better?

1a) GSU
1B) NDSU
^coin flip
3) SHSU
4) Towson
5) Montana/UNI (probably Montana)

I meant a GOOD reason...just because you say NDSU and GSU are better is more personal conjecture, not a legitimate reason

[bjtheflamesfan]

What school did you graduate from? "Yes or No?"

That was from a merged thread Engineer

[BisonFan02]

I meant a GOOD reason...just because you say NDSU and GSU are better is more personal conjecture, not a legitimate reason

Fair enough. Both NDSU and GSU play tougher conference schedules in the MVFC and SoCon respectively (NDSU with one loss versus a talented YSU team and GSU with one loss on the road at Appy). NDSU has a BCS/FBS win and GSU put up 21 on Bama in their other loss. That's some of the reasons why I would put a 10-1 NDSU and a 9-2 GSU over SHSU.

[Soar7]

#5

[Cleets]

#5

there's certainly a chance of that happening

[Professor Chaos]

The poll makes sense based on the thread title but the results will be kind of unfair to SHSU. Regardless of who ends up as the #1 seed there are several schools who can make legitimate cases for it. I'd put SHSU, GSU, and NDSU as the prime contenders with Montana and Towson getting a little consideration as well. So while 75% of voters may say that SHSU isn't the #1 seed, that doesn't necessarily mean that they're not the favorite.

[bjtheflamesfan]

Fair enough. Both NDSU and GSU play tougher conference schedules in the MVFC and SoCon respectively (NDSU with one loss versus a talented YSU team and GSU with one loss on the road at Appy). NDSU has a BCS/FBS win and GSU put up 21 on Bama in their other loss. That's some of the reasons why I would put a 10-1 NDSU and a 9-2 GSU over SHSU.

Thank you

[ChristopherBearkat]

Look at who we scheduled in the off-season though. All D1 teams with one of them being an FBS team. Yes, UNM is a pretty weak FBS team - but it's still FBS.

Western Illinois is a good example of the predicament. We signed a home and home with them. Last year they went to the playoffs. At the start of the season did we really think they'd be as weak as they were? No. Should we be penalized for that?

[BisonFan02]

Look at who we scheduled in the off-season though. All D1 teams with one of them being an FBS team. Yes, UNM is a pretty weak FBS team - but it's still FBS.

Western Illinois is a good example of the predicament. We signed a home and home with them. Last year they went to the playoffs. At the start of the season did we really think they'd be as weak as they were? No. Should we be penalized for that?

No, but I think the conference schedule hurts just as much if not more.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

SHSU will be this year's version of the 2007 #2 McNeese State. :D

[Dallas Demon]

While undefeated, being from a 2nd tier conference and only having 2 wins against teams over .500 is not exactly showing you deserve the top spot over teams that might have losses, but have played much tougher schedules.

Your hatred against your arch-rival is showing. Most don't realize.

[ngineer]

Irrelevant. I voted Yes, only because they deserve kudos for running the table which is tough regardless of conference. There is no difference between #1 and #2 when it comes to seeding as each is set at the opposite ends of the brackets. So it doesn't really matter.

[bisononce]

No

[blackfordpu]

Yes

a) 11-0
b) No sub division one opponents
c) win over FBS team
d) 11-0

[MR. CHICKEN]

Irrelevant. I voted Yes, only because they deserve kudos for running the table which is tough regardless of conference. There is no difference between #1 and #2 when it comes to seeding as each is set at the opposite ends of the brackets. So it doesn't really matter.


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[appfan2008]

I voted yes bc I have them #1 in my top 25 but i am not sure they are the best team in the country... I hope App gets a shot at them!

[bisonnation]

SHSU will be this year's version of the 2007 #2 McNeese State. :D

That's right everyone said they were the greatest team the southland had ever seen. .. Until they got beaten soundly

[Dallas Demon]

Yes

a) 11-0
b) No sub division one opponents
c) win over FBS team
d) 11-0

This.

[Bearkats94]

You all talk a lot when you haven't even seen us play, but you will see us soon. Come on to Texas.

[ngineer]

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[McNeese75]

That's right everyone said they were the greatest team the southland had ever seen. .. Until they got beaten soundly

That team was missing three preseason all-american players in that playoff game. I am sure that had nothing to do with getting beaten soundly so drop your top 3 players for the first round and let's see how well you do. That is history, SHSU deserves one of the top two seeds with their season. Bison lose to YSU who lost today. GSU loses to Alabama (who is looking forward to their rivalry game with Auburn next week) and the score was respectable but certainly not that close. No pass for playing them and then of course there is the loss to ASU who is good but not up to their recent standards.

[Grizzlies82]

Sam Houston State will be the #1 seed and rightfully so. Winning them all does matter.

While I believe SH St goes into the playoffs as number one, I doubt they will end there.

[PantherRob82]

11-0 is 11-0. Let someone prove they arent #1

[TheRevSFA]

Your hatred against your arch-rival is showing. Most don't realize.

Hatred? Not quite. The SLC needs a team to go deep in the playoffs and sam has a shot at doing it, and I hope they do, but while you can argue that WIU was a let down, you knew UNM and UTSA were cupcake wins in the OOC schedule. Christ Sam was FAVORED by 6 against UNM at one point.

I do wish Sam the best, but I bet they get a 3.

[rexreed]

YEP!

[rexreed]

That's right everyone said they were the greatest team the southland had ever seen. .. Until they got beaten soundly
What happened to Mcneese? Did they lose to an UNRANKED opponent that year?

[bisonnation]

That team was missing three preseason all-american players in that playoff game. I am sure that had nothing to do with getting beaten soundly so drop your top 3 players for the first round and let's see how well you do. That is history, SHSU deserves one of the top two seeds with their season. Bison lose to YSU who lost today. GSU loses to Alabama (who is looking forward to their rivalry game with Auburn next week) and the score was respectable but certainly not that close. No pass for playing them and then of course there is the loss to ASU who is good but not up to their recent standards.

great teams have depth and overcome it. Besides every team loses multiple starters throughout a season. You have to expect to have major injuries by the playoffs. Your backups are just as important and you don't get points for having an all star first team

[McNeese75]

great teams have depth and overcome it. Besides every team loses multiple starters throughout a season. You have to expect to have major injuries by the playoffs. Your backups are just as important and you don't get points for having an all star first team

I did not say they lost three starters, I said they lost three preseason all-american players. How many of those are on the NDSU team and are they all still playing?

Sideline your top three impact players in the playoffs and lets see how well those second line backups do. Getting deep in the playoffs requires skill, being injury free as well as damn lucky. I am not positive and a Kat fan could clarify but I think SHSU is healthy and I know they are deep so maybe you will get lucky and draw a game with that SLC cupcake. If it happens, it will probably NOT be in the friendly confines of your domed stadium.

[bisonnation]

I did not say they lost three starters, I said they lost three preseason all-american players. How many of those are on the NDSU team and are they all still playing?

Sideline your top three impact players in the playoffs and lets see how well those second line backups do. Getting deep in the playoffs requires skill, being injury free as well as damn lucky. I am not positive and a Kat fan could clarify but I think SHSU is healthy and I know they are deep so maybe you will get lucky and draw a game with that SLC cupcake. If it happens, it will probably NOT be in the friendly confines of your domed stadium.

Last years playoffs we lost our starting QB and played the injured backup. In the weeks before that we lost 2 starting o lineman. We also had 7 true freshman play and benched our team captain. Our o line had 2 true freshman... Still we figured it out and played better in the playoffs

Eastern Washington lost their best offensive and defense player and won the whole thing

Today DJ McNorton, our pre season all American only got 5 touches and his backup had 3 TDs. Good teams don't fall apart if they lose their 3 best players. They reload

[TexasTerror]

SHSU head coach Willie Fritz not worried about entering the postseason undefeated...

http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Coach_Fritz_Not_Worried_About_Entering_Post_Season _Undefeated_134236998.html

[Bearkat-Backer]

I did not say they lost three starters, I said they lost three preseason all-american players. How many of those are on the NDSU team and are they all still playing?

Sideline your top three impact players in the playoffs and lets see how well those second line backups do. Getting deep in the playoffs requires skill, being injury free as well as damn lucky. I am not positive and a Kat fan could clarify but I think SHSU is healthy and I know they are deep so maybe you will get lucky and draw a game with that SLC cupcake. If it happens, it will probably NOT be in the friendly confines of your domed stadium.

We have the usual bumps and bruises, but can really use this week off. Our bye was in week 2 so they have been grinding it out for 10 straight weeks.